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(Talking Points Memo)   Mitt Romney's latest strategy? Open discussion on everything. Except Bain Capital. And his taxes. Which are the only two things people care about   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 295
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2012-07-18 09:48:28 AM
so basically Romney is trying the exact same tactics that our local GOP shills here on fark try all the damn time - change the subject, and hope nobody notices the elephant in the room.

i'm not sure it's gonna work.
 
2012-07-18 09:50:00 AM
FTFA: "If you don't like what is being said, then change the conversation."

Reporter: "Mr. President, could you tell us what you knew about operation Fast and Furious"
Obama: "Did you know that Mitt Romney was the CEO of Bain Capital"?
 
2012-07-18 09:55:36 AM
BillCo: FTFA: "If you don't like what is being said, then change the conversation."

Reporter: "Mr. President, could you tell us what you knew about operation Fast and Furious"
Obama: "Did you know that Mitt Romney was the CEO of Bain Capital"?


this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.
 
2012-07-18 10:02:54 AM
Weaver95: BillCo: FTFA: "If you don't like what is being said, then change the conversation."

Reporter: "Mr. President, could you tell us what you knew about operation Fast and Furious"
Obama: "Did you know that Mitt Romney was the CEO of Bain Capital"?

this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.


Let's be fair, Mitt Romney is very qualified. He's more qualified than the last few Republican candidates. He's just qualified in all the ways the Republican party would like to deny. He was the governor of a liberal state that implemented an Obamacare-like health care system before Obama did. He was the head of a company that was successful while it made tons of money destroying jobs and tearing up companies. He's incredibly experienced in ways that he can't actually talk about because it would show how while the emperor is wearing clothes, they're clothes made of baby skin and singed flags.
 
2012-07-18 10:03:16 AM
Weaver95: this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.

I realize that he has never been a community organizer, but I think his experience as a successful business man and governor will suffice.
 
2012-07-18 10:05:39 AM
Bloody William: He's incredibly experienced in ways that he can't actually talk about because it would show how while the emperor is wearing clothes, they're clothes made of baby skin and singed flags.

well alrightie then, I'll accept that answer as well.

its just sad that Romney's best possible defense against confronting the facts of his actions is to...lie and change the subject. And we all can SEE him trying to backpedal. he can't even hide it from us. I guess he really is that weak a person.
 
2012-07-18 10:06:36 AM
BillCo: Weaver95: this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.

I realize that he has never been a community organizer, but I think his experience as a successful business man and governor will suffice.


oh yes, because what this country really needs right now is a president who likes to fire people and ship jobs overseas to make more money for himself...
 
2012-07-18 10:09:10 AM
BillCo: Weaver95: this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.

I realize that he has never been a community organizer, but I think his experience as a successful business man and governor will suffice.


At least you didn't call him a successful governor. Because I don't know about you, but going from the mid-30s to 47th in job creation isn't a very successful term. In fact, I don't think Mitt has any idea about how to bring jobs to the US. His entire business experience was outsourcing and offshoring work.
 
2012-07-18 10:10:19 AM
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2012-07-18 10:11:07 AM
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2012-07-18 10:12:14 AM
Weaver95: Bloody William: He's incredibly experienced in ways that he can't actually talk about because it would show how while the emperor is wearing clothes, they're clothes made of baby skin and singed flags.

well alrightie then, I'll accept that answer as well.

its just sad that Romney's best possible defense against confronting the facts of his actions is to...lie and change the subject. And we all can SEE him trying to backpedal. he can't even hide it from us. I guess he really is that weak a person.


I find this whole thing delicious.
 
2012-07-18 10:17:35 AM
Bloody William: Weaver95: Bloody William: He's incredibly experienced in ways that he can't actually talk about because it would show how while the emperor is wearing clothes, they're clothes made of baby skin and singed flags.

well alrightie then, I'll accept that answer as well.

its just sad that Romney's best possible defense against confronting the facts of his actions is to...lie and change the subject. And we all can SEE him trying to backpedal. he can't even hide it from us. I guess he really is that weak a person.

I find this whole thing delicious.


well...I suppose that's there as well. I look at this and see just how far the Republican party has fallen. they used to stand for honor, for a code of conduct that meant something. Now the GOP is little more than a hollow shell whoring itself out for the religious right and various corporate interests. I can't vote for something like that, and I do my best to urge others not to vote for it either.
 
2012-07-18 10:18:47 AM
Also his weird religion. Yes, his faith is an important part of his life and how he will govern, but unlike Obama's Crazy Black Preacher, it's impolite to ask what that means exactly.
 
2012-07-18 10:20:41 AM
BunkoSquad: Also his weird religion. Yes, his faith is an important part of his life and how he will govern, but unlike Obama's Crazy Black Preacher, it's impolite to ask what that means exactly.

oh that's easy - Romney worships Mammon, as does most of the Republican party. they sure don't worship the christian god, that's for sure.
 
2012-07-18 10:24:23 AM
How about his ideas for the country? can we talk about those? because the other than "Undo everything Obama did", I haven't really heard his plan.
 
2012-07-18 10:31:52 AM
ManateeGag: How about his ideas for the country? can we talk about those? because the other than "Undo everything Obama did", I haven't really heard his plan.

um...that IS Romney's plan. undo everything. No health care, no jobs, no help. and if you complain about it, you can expect a visit from some very well funded cops who will explain things to you in a language anyone can easily understand.
 
2012-07-18 10:38:32 AM
Obama can't even run a lemonade stand.

Romney would run the USA like a 7 year old runs a lemonade stand.

This is what America is, and Obama just doesn't get it.
 
2012-07-18 10:41:07 AM
vernonFL: Obama can't even run a lemonade stand.

Romney would run the USA like a 7 year old runs a lemonade stand.

This is what America is, and Obama just doesn't get it.


actually, Romney would run a lemonade stand like this:

seemslegit.com
 
2012-07-18 10:46:00 AM
Bloody William: Weaver95: BillCo: FTFA: "If you don't like what is being said, then change the conversation."

Reporter: "Mr. President, could you tell us what you knew about operation Fast and Furious"
Obama: "Did you know that Mitt Romney was the CEO of Bain Capital"?

this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.

Let's be fair, Mitt Romney is very qualified. He's more qualified than the last few Republican candidates. He's just qualified in all the ways the Republican party would like to deny. He was the governor of a liberal state that implemented an Obamacare-like health care system before Obama did. He was the head of a company that was successful while it made tons of money destroying jobs and tearing up companies. He's incredibly experienced in ways that he can't actually talk about because it would show how while the emperor is wearing clothes, they're clothes made of baby skin and singed flags.


Mitt is to the left of Obama on health care, gun control, immigration, abortion, and foreign policy, so I can see how a guy like you would be rooting for him.

/not
 
2012-07-18 10:46:52 AM
Bloody William: Weaver95: Bloody William: He's incredibly experienced in ways that he can't actually talk about because it would show how while the emperor is wearing clothes, they're clothes made of baby skin and singed flags.

well alrightie then, I'll accept that answer as well.

its just sad that Romney's best possible defense against confronting the facts of his actions is to...lie and change the subject. And we all can SEE him trying to backpedal. he can't even hide it from us. I guess he really is that weak a person.

I find this whole thing delicious.


Oops, I was replying to BillCo, not you.
 
2012-07-18 10:48:45 AM
Romney was CEO longer than he said he was. Official paperwork confirms that this is a fact. Romney farking lied, which is also a fact.
 
2012-07-18 10:50:21 AM
BunkoSquad: Also his weird religion. Yes, his faith is an important part of his life and how he will govern, but unlike Obama's Crazy Black Preacher, it's impolite to ask what that means exactly.

Not only that, but Romney was a bona fide religious leader in the Mormon Church:

While Romney was building his career at Bain Capital, he was also a Mormon bishop (equivalent to a pastor) and a stake president (presiding over several area congregations) in suburban Belmont, Mass.

His family lineage also traces back to Pratt family, so he's practically Mormon royalty. But it's yet another qualification that Romney can't/won't run on. Compare that to father George Romney's run for president in 1968 where he released 12 years of tax returns and invited the press to a Sunday morning LDS service.

It just shows how batshiat the GOP is these days and how sleazy Mitt is.
 
2012-07-18 10:50:50 AM
If Romney didn't want people to scrutinize his business practices so closely, he shouldn't have his business experience the center point of his campaign.

He's completely abandoned his record as Massachusetts because if he brought it up, he would simultaneously be saying "this is how I governed and this is what's destroying America" seeing as how he wasn't the conservative champion he wants people to believe he is.
 
2012-07-18 10:53:23 AM
Jake Havechek: Romney was CEO longer than he said he was. Official paperwork confirms that this is a fact. Romney farking lied, which is also a fact.

At this point, I don't think I care about that minutia... but the fact that (1) they didn't catch this bit of trivia before and (2) even now they don't seem to have a game plan for dealing with the criticism is pretty telling about the state of his campaign.

I wonder if they advertized for campaign managers exclusively at DNC headquarters?
 
2012-07-18 11:06:19 AM
BillCo: I realize that he has never been a community organizer, but I think his experience as a successful business man and governor will suffice.

Then why is he afraid to talk about his record as a businessman and governor?
 
2012-07-18 11:11:27 AM
Aarontology: If Romney didn't want people to scrutinize his business practices so closely, he shouldn't have his business experience the center point of his campaign.

his two selling points - bain and his governorship - are now off limits. wtf is that all about?
 
2012-07-18 11:28:21 AM
FlashHarry: Aarontology: If Romney didn't want people to scrutinize his business practices so closely, he shouldn't have his business experience the center point of his campaign.

his two selling points - bain and his governorship - are now off limits. wtf is that all about?


You don't challenge your moral, spiritual, and social superiors. You submit to them.
 
2012-07-18 11:30:09 AM
Diogenes: FlashHarry: Aarontology: If Romney didn't want people to scrutinize his business practices so closely, he shouldn't have his business experience the center point of his campaign.

his two selling points - bain and his governorship - are now off limits. wtf is that all about?

You don't challenge your moral, spiritual, and social superiors. You submit to them.


not in this country. in this country, we ask questions and flip off anyone who tells us we should just meekly submit. That includes self important rich douchbags who think they run the universe.
 
2012-07-18 11:37:40 AM
FlashHarry: his two selling points - bain and his governorship - are now off limits. wtf is that all about?

A massive f*cking sense of entitlement. He's spent so much damned time at the top issuing orders that he simply can't comprehend having anything he says questioned. He believes he's entitled to the Presidency and that his orders should be enough for anyone.

It's really how he views the American people; little more than his underlings who are to do exactly what he says and accept his word like a subordinate does with a boss.
 
2012-07-18 11:41:26 AM
Aarontology: FlashHarry: his two selling points - bain and his governorship - are now off limits. wtf is that all about?

A massive f*cking sense of entitlement. He's spent so much damned time at the top issuing orders that he simply can't comprehend having anything he says questioned. He believes he's entitled to the Presidency and that his orders should be enough for anyone.

It's really how he views the American people; little more than his underlings who are to do exactly what he says and accept his word like a subordinate does with a boss.


oddly enough, Hillary had a similar attitude - that sense of entitlement, the same arrogance, the same feeling of aristocracy...And Obama smacked her upside the head no problem.

sometimes I think that it isn't that Obama is so f*cking good, it's that his opposition is so f*cking bad that he can't help but win.
 
2012-07-18 11:41:53 AM
Weaver95: not in this country. in this country, we ask questions and flip off anyone who tells us we should just meekly submit.

uhh who is the "we" you are referring to here
 
2012-07-18 11:43:45 AM
BillCo: FTFA: "If you don't like what is being said, then change the conversation."

Reporter: "Mr. President, could you tell us what you knew about operation Fast and Furious"
Obama: "Did you know that Mitt Romney was the CEO of Bain Capital"?


emotibot.net

Willie Geist thinks you sound tired, Bill.
 
2012-07-18 11:44:59 AM
I was kind of expecting Rmoney's campaign to implode, but I didn't think it would be quite this soon.
 
2012-07-18 11:45:05 AM
Jackson Herring: Weaver95: not in this country. in this country, we ask questions and flip off anyone who tells us we should just meekly submit.

uhh who is the "we" you are referring to here


anyone not Republican, apparently. the GOP tends to encourage quiet submission to authority and demand total and unquestioning loyalty to their ideology and religion.

everyone else...not so much.
 
2012-07-18 11:46:17 AM
BillCo: Weaver95: this is driving you crazy, isn't it? you can't stand talking about Romney's lack of qualifications.

I realize that he has never been a community organizer, but I think his experience as a successful business man and governor will suffice.


His successes as a businessman involved pillaging cash cows through tax arbitrage and dividend recapitalization to make, risk-free, a pile of money so large it would make Scrooge McDuck say "Whoa, Mitt, don't you think you have enough money?"

His successes as a governor involved implementing a health care reform bill that was used as the model for ObamaCare and cultivating job growth that rated 47th in the nation over his term.
 
2012-07-18 11:46:47 AM
Fair enough. So can we talk about the times you've flip-flopped on abortion and health care and gay marriage?
 
2012-07-18 11:47:09 AM
BillCo: FTFA: "If you don't like what is being said, then change the conversation."

Reporter: "Mr. President, could you tell us what you knew about operation Fast and Furious"
Obama: "Did you know that Mitt Romney was the CEO of Bain Capital"?


Reporter: "Mr. Romney, can you tell us anything you'll do to increase US jobs or to increase the quality of life for Americans?"
Romney: "Hey, can we go back to talking about Bain Capital and my taxes?
 
2012-07-18 11:47:25 AM
Well, his entire campaign is "I know how to run the country because I was a successful businessman". You can't choose that platform and then refuse to discuss the details of your time in business.

Without his time at Bain, Romney only has 2 selling points.

1) I was born rich
2) I brought the Olympics to Utah

And I haven't really heard much about his time at the Olympics, probably because he doesn't want to open that particular bag of bribery and corruption. So we are left with the "I'm Rich" argument.
 
2012-07-18 11:47:54 AM
We also need to talk more about how many Green Jobs Obama financed with our tax dollars that were outsourced. And while we're at it, how many jobs did Obama's Job Czar outsource? You know the guy, GE CEO and Obama croney Jeramy Imelt.
 
2012-07-18 11:48:34 AM
Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Weaver95: not in this country. in this country, we ask questions and flip off anyone who tells us we should just meekly submit.

uhh who is the "we" you are referring to here

anyone not Republican, apparently. the GOP tends to encourage quiet submission to authority and demand total and unquestioning loyalty to their ideology and religion.

everyone else...not so much.


I guess what I am getting at is that maybe us dorks on the internet are like that, but not anyone in the actual media.
 
2012-07-18 11:48:43 AM
You know I've been watching the polls pretty closely and this Bain stuff really hasn't hurt Romeny that bad. As outrageous as his full Breitbart attacks are, they still may work...
 
2012-07-18 11:50:11 AM
Jackson Herring: Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Weaver95: not in this country. in this country, we ask questions and flip off anyone who tells us we should just meekly submit.

uhh who is the "we" you are referring to here

anyone not Republican, apparently. the GOP tends to encourage quiet submission to authority and demand total and unquestioning loyalty to their ideology and religion.

everyone else...not so much.

I guess what I am getting at is that maybe us dorks on the internet are like that, but not anyone in the actual media.


'the media' isn't as influential as they were 20 years ago. hell, the Occupy movement is proof enough of that.
 
2012-07-18 11:51:47 AM
Also, I wonder if we can arrange a trade. Romeny's tax returns for Obama's college transcripts ans writings.
 
2012-07-18 11:51:54 AM
jake_lex: I was kind of expecting Rmoney's campaign to implode, but I didn't think it would be quite this soon.

I was hoping for just after the convention, when it's too late for them to change candidates. But I'm not complaining.
 
2012-07-18 11:52:21 AM
Weaver95: 'the media' isn't as influential as they were 20 years ago. hell, the Occupy movement is proof enough of that.

It wasn't the media that brought OWS style rhetoric into the living room, it was Newt Gingrich.
 
2012-07-18 11:52:24 AM
Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Weaver95: Jackson Herring: Weaver95: not in this country. in this country, we ask questions and flip off anyone who tells us we should just meekly submit.

uhh who is the "we" you are referring to here

anyone not Republican, apparently. the GOP tends to encourage quiet submission to authority and demand total and unquestioning loyalty to their ideology and religion.

everyone else...not so much.

I guess what I am getting at is that maybe us dorks on the internet are like that, but not anyone in the actual media.

'the media' isn't as influential as they were 20 years ago. hell, the Occupy movement is proof enough of that.


the what?
 
2012-07-18 11:52:47 AM
Lost Thought 00: Well, his entire campaign is "I know how to run the country because I was a successful businessman". You can't choose that platform and then refuse to discuss the details of your time in business.

Without his time at Bain, Romney only has 2 selling points.

1) I was born rich
2) I brought the Olympics to Utah

And I haven't really heard much about his time at the Olympics, probably because he doesn't want to open that particular bag of bribery and corruption. So we are left with the "I'm Rich" argument.


He actually did a decent job with the Olympics, but his work there was basically focused on radically cutting costs, jacking up ticket prices, and schmoozing billionaires and the federal government until they gave him big checks to keep the whole operation afloat.
 
2012-07-18 11:53:29 AM
amiable: You know I've been watching the polls pretty closely and this Bain stuff really hasn't hurt Romeny that bad. As outrageous as his full Breitbart attacks are, they still may work...

The Bain and tax return affects probably won't be seen until next week...
 
2012-07-18 11:54:54 AM
Too bad they can't enact better health care RIGHT NOW because I can only imagine there's a lot of scared Democrats calling their doctors to ask if they should be concerned that they've had an erection that's lasted more than 6 hours.

/seriously, there's 3 more months of this
//it's like watch Ali rope-a-dope some poor schlub until the final round where he just pummels him
 
2012-07-18 11:55:27 AM
It's got to kill liberals that Obama's presidency has been a complete failure from start to finish.

Obama "And now I'm going to talk about all the great things that happened during my first three and a half years ... *crickets chirping* ... uh ... um ... let's talk about Romney's completely legal finances, you should hate him."
 
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