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2012-07-17 07:50:48 PM
Alright! Time to form a strike team of illegals and stuff the ballet box for Nader! :D
 
2012-07-17 07:52:20 PM
B...b...b...b...but Walker
 
2012-07-17 07:53:14 PM
Woohoo! Since it was likely written by ALEC, I'm sure that it'll be struck down in about 16 other states soon.
 
2012-07-17 07:57:47 PM
Yippee! Suck it, Walker.
 
2012-07-17 07:59:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Woohoo! Since it was likely written by ALEC, I'm sure that it'll be struck down in about 16 other states soon.


FTFA:

Dane County Circuit Judge David Flanagan wrote Tuesday that the state's requirement that all voters show photo ID at the polls creates a "substantial impairment of the right to vote" guaranteed by the state constitution.

Depending on what the state's constitution reads like, and what the judge's decision is based on, it may or may not be applicable to the law in other states.
 
2012-07-17 08:04:53 PM
Cool! I'm voting early and often for Obama if it is ruled illegal in Georgia.
 
2012-07-17 08:08:00 PM
Well, that's one bit of good news.

/puts pitchfork back in closet
 
2012-07-17 08:09:13 PM
You know, we've been voting here in Wisconsin for over 150 years without photo I.D. and it's worked just fine. The GOP has yet to demonstrate that there have been enough fraudulent votes cast in Wisconsin over the last twenty years to swing a suburban school board race much less a statewide election. They just want to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to keep darker folk from voting.
 
2012-07-17 08:10:54 PM
way to go, justice system

in before the "DAMN YOU FARTBAMA AND YOUR ACORN STEALING ELECTIONS!!1!! SOCIALISMS!!!!!11!1!!"

/SQUIRREL!!1!
 
2012-07-17 08:11:12 PM
In before "But..but..but voting is a RIGHT!!1!!!2"
 
2012-07-17 08:12:18 PM
Looks like the Kock Brothers couldn't buy all the judges.
 
2012-07-17 08:13:13 PM
Good on you, Judge Flannagan.
 
2012-07-17 08:13:52 PM

Sid_6.7: it may or may not be applicable to the law in other states.


It won't be applicable as anything other than precedent until a circuit court rules on it as well.
 
2012-07-17 08:14:12 PM
Good news. Just need to strike down all the rest of them.
 
2012-07-17 08:14:54 PM

Silly Jesus: In before "But..but..but voting is a RIGHT!!1!!!2"


Well, voting is a right. The greatest right any citizen of these United States can exercise. That, my friends, is true freedom. Those that refuse to cast the vote for whatever reason (ahhh! but my vote counts for nothing) fail to grasp the basic civil duty that all people over 18 should be proud to do every time they go to the polls. It is the most basic way to get involved in your country and it is the most powerful message any person can do (barring violence, but I don't condone that shiat)

You vote does more than elect people, your vote moves mountains. If we had everyone who could go out and vote, our country would be a far different and freer place.
 
2012-07-17 08:17:33 PM
Perhaps we can stop this nonsense soon and get something that really matters...like a standard of knowledge / intellect for voting. I propose the U.S. Immigration Test (basic history / general government concepts) and an IQ test (you can't vote for Potato anyway).
 
2012-07-17 08:18:00 PM
I think the voter ID laws are unnecessary more than actively counterproductive. They won't actually stop anyone from voting, they just won't really impact fraud in any way and thus all they do is create a minor hassle for a few people.

//In Texas we've had the option to present photo ID instead of the registration card for a couple decades now, I haven't even bothered to hang onto the reg card since the first year after I moved here, DL just being massively easier.
 
2012-07-17 08:19:14 PM
How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.
 
2012-07-17 08:19:59 PM

somedude210: Silly Jesus: In before "But..but..but voting is a RIGHT!!1!!!2"

Well, voting is a right...


Perhaps some reading is in order...
 
2012-07-17 08:21:55 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-07-17 08:22:26 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


Millions of Americans.
 
2012-07-17 08:23:09 PM
Shocking! I would NEVER have guessed this judge was also linked to the Walker recall.
 
2012-07-17 08:25:14 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


In Texas somewhere between 167,000 (the states estimate) and 1.5 million (DOJ estimate).
 
2012-07-17 08:25:54 PM

Alphax: consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.

Millions of Americans.


My mom for one, moved and can't get a drivers license in NV without a social security card, can't get a social security card without a DL. Catch 22

/she has a expired DL from years ago that is no help
 
2012-07-17 08:26:09 PM

MikeMc: You know, we've been voting here in Wisconsin for over 150 years without photo I.D. and it's worked just fine. The GOP has yet to demonstrate that there have been enough fraudulent votes cast in Wisconsin over the last twenty years to swing a suburban school board race much less a statewide election. They just want to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to keep darker folk from voting.


I think the Dhimmycraps would be wise to keep God's Own Party spending lots and lots of time, energy, and financial resources combatting a problem that doesn't exist any where but their own imaginations.

Yes, really.

What's really going to make me LOL is if it turns out that they're mostly impacting Hispanic and Asian voters that actually vote GOP.
 
2012-07-17 08:27:19 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


That's why the Republican governors have pushed so hard on the photo ID laws, because it's much ado about nothing. Say, I'm a New Yorker, we have this bridge in Brooklyn. Anyway, EIP if you're interested in purchasing same. I'll get you a really good price.
 
2012-07-17 08:28:18 PM
Go, according to the article, the Supreme Court refused to hear it in time for it to have an effect on this fall's elections.

... But why? Hmm...

/They're up to something!
 
2012-07-17 08:28:58 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


More than "none."
 
2012-07-17 08:30:23 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


750,000 in Pennsylvania
Can't find the link, but according to the republican governor of South Carolina, 250,000 citizens of that state do not have photo ID.

How many cases of voter fraud that would have been stopped by requiring ID can you cite? I bet it's less than a million.
 
2012-07-17 08:31:03 PM
Clearly someone got to this judge
 
2012-07-17 08:31:27 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


The law? Yes, quite unnecessary.
 
2012-07-17 08:32:49 PM
DAMN YOU FARTBAMA AND YOUR ACORN STEALING ELECTIONS!!1!! SOCIALISMS!!!!!11!1!!
 
2012-07-17 08:33:18 PM

Silly Jesus: Perhaps we can stop this nonsense soon and get something that really matters...like a standard of knowledge / intellect for voting. I propose the U.S. Immigration Test (basic history / general government concepts) and an IQ test (you can't vote for Potato anyway).


This is the post of a farktard who's completely ignorant of history.
 
2012-07-17 08:34:27 PM

Krymson Tyde: Cool! I'm voting early and often for Obama if it is ruled illegal in Georgia.


Are you stating on this News Aggregate site that you are planning on breaking the law? I shall alert the authorities to have you arrested at once!
 
2012-07-17 08:35:04 PM
Yea! That's $28 I don't have to spend to renew an ID I've used exactly twice in the last 3 years. (Once was to vote.)
 
2012-07-17 08:35:28 PM
Voting is something this nation has become rather famous for. The idea that the people have a voice in their government, regardless of social status. It is an idea that has been fostered and expanded over the centuries of this country. It is an idea that we have urged other nations to adopt It is an idea that soldiers have fought and died for. It is an idea that has entrenched itself as what would seem to be an inalienable right in regards to a functioning Democracy.

It is an idea that for some reason the current Republican party wants to destroy.
 
2012-07-17 08:35:41 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-17 08:37:06 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


Not really a large proportion or anything, but since 52-48 races are fairly common, a couple percent of the population matters.
 
2012-07-17 08:37:36 PM
If getting a photo ID is really a "substantial impairment" in your world, you really shouldn't be voting.
 
2012-07-17 08:38:04 PM

Silly Jesus: consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


I guarantee several of my family members don't have photo IDs. Hell, my Dad doesn't. I know that for a fact. And they're all white.

To top it off, I'd bet if they did vote, which they probably won't, 95% of them would vote for Romney.

Not having photo ID isn't shorthand for "being brown" or "being a Democrat". It's usually shorthand for beIng poor and uneducated.
 
2012-07-17 08:38:28 PM

consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.


FTFA:
Under the law approved last year by Republican lawmakers and Walker, voters are required to show one of a set number of photo IDs to vote. It was in place for the February primary but has been blocked by court orders since then.

Those who do not have a driver's license or other photo ID can get one without charge from the state. But Flanagan noted that birth certificates are required to get the IDs and voters who don't have them must pay for them. He said more than 300,000 voters do not have an acceptable form of ID.


300,000 and a Poll Tax in case it being mentioned in the article and directly quoted for you wasn't clear.
 
2012-07-17 08:38:43 PM

cchris_39: If getting a photo ID is really a "substantial impairment" in your world, you really shouldn't be voting.


If you think we should be restricting people's right to vote, you don't deserve to be an American.
 
2012-07-17 08:40:22 PM
As soon as I can buy a gun without having to show ID I will support voting without having to show an ID.
 
2012-07-17 08:40:51 PM

Silly Jesus: somedude210: Silly Jesus: In before "But..but..but voting is a RIGHT!!1!!!2"

Well, voting is a right...

Perhaps some reading is in order...


fair point. I know that there is nothing in the constitution that actually says "white male land-owners shall vote every 2 years on the first Tuesday of November for congressmen...and 4 years for president, etc"

but it technically is the only way any of our elected officials become elected. so I've got that going for me, which is nice
 
2012-07-17 08:40:54 PM

Burn_The_Plows: Yea! That's $28 I don't have to spend to renew an ID I've used exactly twice in the last 3 years. (Once was to vote.)


Ooooh, I have to renew my D/L next month I wonder if I can get it for free if I tell them it's for voting...
 
2012-07-17 08:41:04 PM

cchris_39: If getting a photo ID is really a "substantial impairment" in your world, you really shouldn't be voting.


You've got a great point there. The handicapped, those in wheelchairs and others who can't get out and get the proper identification have no business voting. How dare they? Who do those uppity disabled think they are, people?
 
2012-07-17 08:41:09 PM
Countries such as Belgium, Spain, Greece, Italy, Malta and Mexico require a photo ID to vote, just to name a few. This is normal in much of the Western, and even non-Western world. Yet, here, it's OMG RACISMS.
 
2012-07-17 08:41:16 PM

cchris_39: If getting a photo ID is really a "substantial impairment" in your world, you really shouldn't be voting.


What a patriot!
 
2012-07-17 08:42:03 PM

martissimo: Alphax: consider this: How many people don't have a photo ID? This shiat is so much about nothing.

Millions of Americans.

My mom for one, moved and can't get a drivers license in NV without a social security card, can't get a social security card without a DL. Catch 22

/she has a expired DL from years ago that is no help


Having similar troubles. Like a fool I let mine expire more than five years ago, and since I've never rented or bought a house, or gotten a power bill in my name I'm having a tough time scrounging up enough proof that I'm a WA resident to get it updated. Ordered a copy of my birth certificate and am gonna try a third attempt to get it tomorrow.
 
2012-07-17 08:42:15 PM

Mrtraveler01: Silly Jesus: Perhaps we can stop this nonsense soon and get something that really matters...like a standard of knowledge / intellect for voting. I propose the U.S. Immigration Test (basic history / general government concepts) and an IQ test (you can't vote for Potato anyway).

This is the post of a farktard who's completely ignorant of history.


Do tell. Is there a certain group that you feel would be disenfranchised by knowledge / intellect tests?
 
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