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2012-07-18 07:48:07 AM

Confabulat: Bear



You couldn't go out and seduce one chubby, hairy, gay man? And the scouts say they don't want anything gay..


/Canteen Boy..
 
2012-07-18 07:49:41 AM
alywa: You know what libs? Sometimes I just don't get this country.

On one hand you have everyone getting their pantys in a wad over gays over at Penn State molesting kids. "Boo Hoo, they should have done something about that big bad Sanduskie guy..." yet on the other hand when an organization tries to take a stand against pedifiles you cry that they are being excluded.

Some facts (I know libs don't like them, but tough cheese loosers)

1. The Boy Scouts are founded on the beliefs of God and Country. There is no place in the eyes of either for degenerates.

2. Why would sexually confused young men want to hang out with a God fearing group like the scouts. Camping, being with your fellow men alone in the woods, long girl-free summer camps, sharp uniforms, songs, handicrafts? Go watch glee or something, and leave Scouting to the real men.

3. Scouts are a private organization. They never use community centers, public spaces, parks, etc, so your namby pamby laws about "oh lets hold hands and poop rainbows and sing KumByA" don't apply here.

Suck it libs. Suck it long and hard. Just don't go trying to gay up the Scouts.

Keep the 12 points alive and well, America!!!

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It's....BEAUTIFUL. Now this. This is trolling
 
2012-07-18 07:59:57 AM

awshat: . And, it's only been in this last generation that teenage sexuality is no longer taboo, that it's out in the open, that everybody does it, and it's all ok!


This is the dumbest thing I'll ever read today.

When I was a teen about 30 years ago, teen sex was ALL my elders wanted to talk about. Teen sex was the hottest topic of the day. Teen sex was ALL I heard about.

Oh, and maybe you should watch some movies from the 1970s, 40 years ago. There's a hell of a lot more open and free teen sex in those movies that are today's kids' GRANDPARENTS' era than you'll see in a multiplex today.

If anything, teen sex is a lot more sane in modern culture than it was back in my day.
 
2012-07-18 08:06:09 AM
The policy of the BSA is basically the same policy that the military followed up until less than a year ago (September 20, 2011), don't ask, don't tell. The BSA doesn't ask your sexual preference and as long as you don't tell them you should be fine. It sucks that the Mormon church owns the national organization but it's really not that surprising that they would be a little more conservative than the federal government. And it seems to me that the boy scouts get a lot more grief than the military ever did.

Some day things will change. In the mean time I am proud that a kid from our troop learned enough first aid to save the life of a kid who had his leg nearly severed in a bad accident. I am glad that our troop emphasizes first aid as much as it does.
 
2012-07-18 08:14:01 AM
so basically I can prance around and be gay
just as long as I don't rape any men
 
xcv
2012-07-18 08:14:06 AM

Gulper Eel: thrifty

My ass, thrifty. All the uniforms and that other crapola is expensive and it sure as shiat doesn't ever go on sale. If my local scouting chapter starts hard-selling the Jesus, that's as good an excuse as I need to have my son pick some other activity. If I want a time-suck spiritual lecture eating my weekend, I'll go to church.


The ban is a shame, they could have challenged the girl scouts for best cookies and brought in a ton of funding for their chapters while teaching the kids an actual Christ-like lesson in tolerance.
 
2012-07-18 08:15:21 AM

some_beer_drinker: doglover: Let's look at it with our Conservative glasses: Some boys or men want to join the girl scouts. What do you? Stop them, obviously, to prevent a scene.

Basically, for the BSA, they're a super conservative institution willing to take a little egg on the face from GLAD to avoid taking something else on the face in a scandal should one erupt.

It almost makes sense. Except all the best cats I know who are gay joined up anyway. So, much like don't ask don't tell, it's a porous barrier that's nothing but a lot of hooey to fool doddering old hate mongers too far gone to remember how real life works, but not yet gone enough to keep funding an organization that lets them homersexuals in with their "good Christian boys"

Sad really.

you'll get over it. it was only a few scant years ago that a certain government stopped classifying the gay as a mental illness that needed curing. im sure in a few years all the homos can be as gay as they want and no one will give a shiat. i sure don't.


While crudely put, that. When I was a Scout I was more worried about the jackass in charge of the Troop who used our camping trips as an excuse to lapse back into violent alcoholism than the queer who actually taught us shiat and would argue with the drunk in charge constantly. Gay =/= pedophile. That old queen taught me how to clean rabbit, set a bone, and manage myself while violently ill on a hiking trip in Arizona(ended up taking a helicopter out, said drunk's oldest son managed to convince him the kid with the shakes so bad he could barely eat, who was puking every twenty feet and falling over under his pack wasn't going to be able to hike twenty miles out in 100+ weather) the guy actually in charge just taught me how to NOT hide a horrendous drinking habit. The other kids taught me such valuable lessons as how to find a spot to smoke meth outdoors.

Homosexuals are the least of the problems with that organization, blatant drug use by the kids(it sure as fark wasn't just my troop, it was rampant at the summer camps and made me a good load of cash although I didn't even smoke pot until years after I was out) and the drunk jackasses in charge on the other hand... I learned quite a bit during my stint(mom was too busy jockeying for position on the troop's council to notice any of this bullshiat while I was begging to quit), and I'm not sorry I did it, but holy hell, it was pretty bad.

On the other hand, I'm a damn good emergency medic thanks to my training there, and I've saved lives thanks to that training since, and developed a set of ethics that won't let me ignore an injured person, I feel obligated to help out anytime I'm around someone who's been hurt, so I guess it wasn't all just a dangerous waste of time. I kept up on my first aid training, and I'm seriously considering taking the classes to work as an EMT thanks to my experiences there, I'm getting really tired of working concrete and asphalt and I can't find a permanent position doing HVAC or electrical work, or any other technical profession I'm good at.

There's a lot of potential there though, I learned my first bits of programming and electronic engineering as a Scout, but I got so sick of all the jerkoff drunk "leadership" and jackasses who used our trips as an excuse to take drugs I quit long before I managed Eagle Scout. To be honest, the old queen(his descriptor, not mine, once we interacted outside of the Scouts) I mentioned above is the only person who was in a leadership position that I'm still friendly with when I run into, I've gone hunting and fishing with him quite a few times since I quit and he's gotten me into a few classes and seminars on first aid and emergency medicine I couldn't have taken otherwise, even covered the cost for me when I was broke, and I'm generally a better person for having made his acquaintance. He still works with them too, for some damn reason.

I still think it's funny that the only person I have contact with from the BSA anymore is a sixty five year old homosexual, he's a good guy and just genuinely believes in an organization that would ostracize him in half a second if they could put two and two together. I can't really disagree either, there's more than one person running around who's alive because of my training.

/slept with his daughter and we parted amiably actually. Only female friend I still have.
//seriously BSA, the least of your problems is gays, but keep pointing fingers.
///guess it's easier than just getting rid of the drunk pieces of shiat you let lead us into the wilderness.
 
2012-07-18 08:17:57 AM

JonnyBlack: beer


i became a fireman. wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo! !
 
2012-07-18 08:18:40 AM
When does a Cubscout earn the right to become a Boyscout?
When he eats his first Brownie.
 
2012-07-18 08:19:00 AM
This is a real shame. The scouts do a lot of good and I cant understand why they continue to be so close minded.
 
2012-07-18 08:21:10 AM

HAMMERTOE: Just start a Gay Scouts association. What could be more natural? Instead of worshiping some fictional negligent absentee father, you can worship teh buttsecks. And think of the pretty (and contextual) badges you can earn! You've got BET for the blacks, the ABBA fan club for the Mexicans, and the Subaru Owner's Association for the lesbians.


Oh I get because stereotypes!!!111

OH EL OH EL you are too funny, omg you're the next Dane Cook.
 
2012-07-18 08:25:09 AM
and with that, I will make sure to not donate to any boyscout cause and give them the reason why whenever they ask.
 
2012-07-18 08:26:07 AM
Why is the American version of the Scouts so crackpot insane? The original British version is gay every three-ways from Sunday.
 
2012-07-18 08:32:31 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: So what if the Mormons bolt the Scouts? It seems like Scouts would want to preserve their organization for real, normal Christians anyway, not some Stepford cult that cooked The Books to have an "American" version.


Yeah, Christian dogma is so much more plausible...
 
2012-07-18 08:39:47 AM

Sid_6.7: To be honest, I'm an Eagle Scout (and OA) and an atheist, which puts me at odds with the BSA as much as homosexuality. Anyway, this is how I try to view the issue: I think GWB was a terrible president, but that doesn't mean that I decided that the US was a terrible country incapable of doing good (and neither did I disagree with everything Bush did). In a similar vein, I find it disgraceful that the BSA continues to take this stance, but at the same time, I know for a fact that there is value to be had in Scouting, and that it should not be wholly condemned for the myopic views of a few people at the top.


This

/same boat
 
2012-07-18 08:46:11 AM
This was one of the reasons I took my oldest son out of scouts. The other was the ever-increasing emphasis on religion as he progressed year-to-year.

fark the BSA
 
2012-07-18 08:59:11 AM
Can't we just let some innocent young kids enjoy scouting and other normal childhood activities before we expose them to buttsex?
 
2012-07-18 09:04:54 AM
JonnyBlack: On the other hand, I'm a damn good emergency medic thanks to my training there, and I've saved lives thanks to that training since, and developed a set of ethics that won't let me ignore an injured person, I feel obligated to help out anytime I'm around someone who's been hurt, so I guess it wasn't all just a dangerous waste of time. I kept up on my first aid training, and I'm seriously considering taking the classes to work as an EMT thanks to my experiences there, I'm getting really tired of working concrete and asphalt and I can't find a permanent position doing HVAC or electrical work, or any other technical profession I'm good at.

I was like that to, until I took a lawsuit to the knee.
 
2012-07-18 09:04:56 AM

JonnyBlack: When I was a Scout I was more worried about the jackass in charge of the Troop who used our camping trips as an excuse to lapse back into violent alcoholism


My parents pulled me from BSA when we got a new scoutmaster who was an alcoholic. Guy before him was no prize either, his son got multiple merit badges in Favoritism.
 
2012-07-18 09:06:16 AM
I remember when I was in Cub Scouts one of the requirements for all the badges was some stupid religious nonsense part. I was an atheist even when I was a kid so those parts really annoyed me but then I realized I could just check them off and who would know the difference anyway.

It is a strategy that adult politicians use to this day.
 
2012-07-18 09:22:29 AM

FriarReb98: doglover: some_beer_drinker: the homos can be as gay as they want and no one will give a shiat.

Assuming anyone does now.

I think most things in society are always last changed officially. Hence the phrase "The writing's on the wall." The lowest common denomenator is always the first to accept things while officials relent only when all hope of procrastination is loss.

The problem with being gay in the minds of those who believe scripture is infallible is that, ignoring the fact that scripture has almost as many plot holes in it as it does chapters, they think that gayness is wrong. Then, when it gets rewarded by recognition and celebration, it causes all sorts of crises of faith and dogma, which is anxiety-laden at least and downright saddening and sickening at worst. These people, while moronic, are fighting for their happiness, which, when you look at it that way, you can't blame them for. Just like you can't blame gays for wanting to be happy with their lives.

With the lessening of faith in the world, eventually this too shall pass. As for the BSA, eventually it'll get to the point that they'll have to go 100% private or give it up.


Methinks it has less to do with scripture and more to do with trying to avoid a scandal.

Ive decided i should have been born a female lesbian not a man. Can I join the girl scouts now?
 
2012-07-18 09:25:11 AM
Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.
 
2012-07-18 09:27:08 AM

alywa: You know what libs? Sometimes I just don't get this country.

On one hand you have everyone getting their pantys in a wad over gays over at Penn State molesting kids. "Boo Hoo, they should have done something about that big bad Sanduskie guy..." yet on the other hand when an organization tries to take a stand against pedifiles you cry that they are being excluded.

Some facts (I know libs don't like them, but tough cheese loosers)

1. The Boy Scouts are founded on the beliefs of God and Country. There is no place in the eyes of either for degenerates.

2. Why would sexually confused young men want to hang out with a God fearing group like the scouts. Camping, being with your fellow men alone in the woods, long girl-free summer camps, sharp uniforms, songs, handicrafts? Go watch glee or something, and leave Scouting to the real men.

3. Scouts are a private organization. They never use community centers, public spaces, parks, etc, so your namby pamby laws about "oh lets hold hands and poop rainbows and sing KumByA" don't apply here.

Suck it libs. Suck it long and hard. Just don't go trying to gay up the Scouts.

Keep the 12 points alive and well, America!!!

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AWESOME...Just awesome!!!!!
 
2012-07-18 09:30:22 AM
It has been my personal experience with the Scouts that they are getting some great results from the boys they have. When I had to choose new employees for my company, it was an automatic hire if someone put that they had been in the Boy Scouts on their resume. Only twice didn't it work out, out of about 60 or so. When I get the youth groups to help on the charity events that I run for the church, the Boy Scouts are on the top of the list--better than the IB program (the brainiac kids), the religious ed kids and way better than the kids from the local sports teams. Our little town is dotted with local Boy Scout Eagle projects--nothing big deal-- but here a wheel chair ramp, there a walkway through the grass at a public park and over there a fence for the local cemetery.

Whatever this organization is doing to get such results, they are doing it very well.

I know a whole lot of people who are politically correct in the extreme--the great majority of them are complete assh*les who wouldn't urinate upon you if you were afire but would be the first to sue you for the second hand smoke if you were. They are almost all folks who are very good at demanding things and causing problems but when you are attempting to run a project or produce something these are all negatives. I sympathize with the gays in their struggle for political equality, but this is an organization that is very decidedly NOT BROKEN. I don't reckon that allowing a bunch of politically correct assh*les to dictate to them how to run their business is going to improve upon it. Here's hoping that they don't.
 
2012-07-18 09:30:25 AM

Raoul Eaton: serial_crusher: FriarReb98: some_beer_drinker: bdub77: Because clearly going camping with a bunch of dudes is an entirely heterosexual experience.

hey now! it's traditional. i was a scout for 10 years, i never ever saw anything gay. we learned how to start fires, and build things, and live outside. that's useful in canada, or after the bank has taken your house.

We were more the "make huge farking fires and act like pricks in the woods" types, actually. Or you could be like me: by the last summer I went to Cachalot Scout Reservation, I won the top shot award for .22 rifle shooting. Still have the award & my NRA Sharpshooter medallion.

That's the way to do it. My troop started off like that, but by my last couple of years we got a bunch of new nanny-leaders who eliminated all the fun (aka marginally dangerous) stuff and turned the troop into a merit badge factory. Those kind of leaders are infinitely more of a threat than the gheys.

Yeah, I can't see how it's fun without the hazard. My troop had us clear a woodlot once, and the rule was that scouts younger than 8th grade weren't allowed to use the chain saws. No adults in sight when my patrol was in action cutting down sizable hardwood trees.

//lucky to be alive
/but it WAS fun


That did just trigger a memory that most of our troubles started when one of the newbies hit himself in the shin with an axe. Chicken and egg problem though. His carelessness with the axe could have been the result of having a walking vagina for a father, or his father could have turned into said vagina after the axe incident.
 
2012-07-18 09:30:41 AM

pciszek: serial_crusher: What would be another good name for an alternative scouting organization without all the goofy rules?

How about, "Camp Fire USA"? Link


Got mt Eagle and quit and Joined Camp FIre.
Best decision ever.
 
2012-07-18 09:33:02 AM

Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.



Them blacks and Jews should get one too.
 
2012-07-18 09:34:38 AM

vudukungfu: pciszek: serial_crusher: What would be another good name for an alternative scouting organization without all the goofy rules?

How about, "Camp Fire USA"? Link

Got mt Eagle and quit and Joined Camp FIre.
Best decision ever.


what do camp fire members call themselves? Camp Fire Girls seems OK, but Camp Fire Boys sounds a little gay. nttawwt, but from a marketing perspective it might scare off the scouts who are upset with the BSA not liking gays, but aren't quite willing to become one themselves.
 
2012-07-18 09:35:14 AM

Bungles: Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.


Them blacks and Jews should get one too.


And them Christians should segregate themselves off too. Because everyone knows Christians are better than regular people. They have Jesus in their heart and he makes the ugly stuff good.
 
2012-07-18 09:40:25 AM
Did not read any of the thread, but here's my take as someone who is actually VERY involved in the organization at many levels (not regionally or nationally, but I know people on those levels who have shared their insights):

1. Like all politics is local, so is Scouting. Unofficially, there is DADT at the unit and council level. I know gay adult leaders. If you want to bash the organization at the top, fine, but generalizing Scouting as bad is just as silly as bashing Americans for the actions of the U.S. government.

2. Like anywhere, the people's opinions change faster than the institutions that govern them. So, if we want change, we need to get the right people at the top OR have the right-minded people walk away. Most people I know in Scouting are still on the fence about their participation but will probably NOT walk since they are heavily involved and see it as a 90/10 issue - why walk when your organization does things 90% well and 10% poorly (i.e., the good heavily outweighs the bad). But again, I question if progress can be made without walking away.

3. But that leads into recruitment. Walking away might not be necessary if recruitment numbers continue to slide. At some point decisions will be made where people see adult gay leader participation as advantageous because a) logistically, it brings another driver who can move Scouts to activities in, plain and simple and b) in general, you can't get stuff done without a pretty good youth / adult ratio. Poorly run troops are common where there is but a handful of adult leaders overseeing what is going on.
 
2012-07-18 09:42:13 AM
Though I don't agree with it, it's in their right to do that. Now having said that, remove all federal moneys/tax benefits given to the BSA for their discriminatory act.
 
2012-07-18 09:46:06 AM

Bungles: Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.


Them blacks and Jews should get one too.


Like the NAACP?

Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.
 
2012-07-18 09:46:27 AM

jetblack21: 4.bp.blogspot.com
Am I the only one who read that in his voice?


Not at first but I did after you mentioned it. Holy shiat, that's uncanny.
 
2012-07-18 09:51:42 AM
Joe Blowme: Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.

I agree fully, seeing as "sexual preference" and sexual identity are strongly linked to events that happen during intrauterine brain development of the fetus, as well as the immunological and hormonal interactions that occur between fetus and mother.

Oh, wait. You were trying to make a snarky comment from stupidity. Oh, I get it.
 
2012-07-18 09:51:54 AM

Joe Blowme: Bungles: Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.


Them blacks and Jews should get one too.

Like the NAACP?

Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.



When we're talking discrimination based on innate characteristics, yes of course it is (as recognised by most Western nations in their laws).
 
2012-07-18 09:54:18 AM
My wife is a Girl Scout leader and she was talking to one of the parents who was a boy scout (I don't know if he made eagle scout or not) and he made an observation:

When the girls were doing an introduction to sailing at a local camp the counselors gave them a life jacket and a 5 minute lecture on what to expect and set them loose on the lake. He was shocked how the GS let the girls discover/learn how things worked rather than forcing them to go through an endless series of classes and only entrusting them to actual water after they earned a badge. He noted that the BS are more about excluding others who haven't earned their badges rather than learning as a team...

/not really a csb, but kind of interesting.
 
2012-07-18 09:56:41 AM

Bungles: Joe Blowme: Bungles: Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.


Them blacks and Jews should get one too.

Like the NAACP?

Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.


When we're talking discrimination based on innate characteristics, yes of course it is (as recognised by most Western nations in their laws).


So you are also against the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, HIspanic Caucus, Ladies night, women only gyms, sex segregated restrooms, ect...? If you are then at least you are consistent and i cant fault that.
 
2012-07-18 10:02:57 AM

Joe Blowme: Bungles: Joe Blowme: Bungles: Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.


Them blacks and Jews should get one too.

Like the NAACP?

Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.


When we're talking discrimination based on innate characteristics, yes of course it is (as recognised by most Western nations in their laws).

So you are also against the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, HIspanic Caucus, Ladies night, women only gyms, sex segregated restrooms, ect...? If you are then at least you are consistent and i cant fault that.



Oh, you're one of those people. Do you get angry there isn't a White History Month?
 
2012-07-18 10:04:11 AM

Joe Blowme: So you are also against the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, HIspanic Caucus, Ladies night, women only gyms, sex segregated restrooms, ect...? If you are then at least you are consistent and i cant fault that.


Ah, the age-old argument for "WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE THINGS FOR STRAIGHT CHRISTIAN WHITE GUYS WITHOUT PEOPLE THINKING WE ARE LIKE RACISTS OR SOMETHING?" after basically turning society into that for centuries but pretending that's all over now, and WHAA it was better then anyway, am I right?

There's a reason smart and decent people mock your sort. You'll never understand it. I bet you will whine about it though.
 
2012-07-18 10:06:15 AM

Bungles: Oh, you're one of those people. Do you get angry there isn't a White History Month?


I do
 
2012-07-18 10:10:00 AM

BronyMedic: Joe Blowme: Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.

I agree fully, seeing as "sexual preference" and sexual identity are strongly linked to events that happen during intrauterine brain development of the fetus, as well as the immunological and hormonal interactions that occur between fetus and mother.

Oh, wait. You were trying to make a snarky comment from stupidity. Oh, I get it.


The bsa's policy forbids "practicing" homosexuals from joining or being members. So, it's slightly different. Race isn't something you can keep in your pants.
 
2012-07-18 10:16:44 AM
There really is no way for the BSA to come out positive on this discussion. The issue, like so many complex ones, is there is the local flavor and then the national flavor.

On the gay issue:
- locally we all know gay folks, they are regular folks, live and work with us, not a real issue. When you think of whether openly gay folks should be involved in scouting you think of this person and you have empathy and think, sure

- nationally it gets more complex, there are more entrenched positions, more extremes, and more die hards on both sides. For the BSA they are looking at their chartered partners that sponsor troops as part of their youth programs, mostly churches. For the gays it becomes the lightning rod issue, this is a must have, let's protest, call them foul names, drive a wedge

As an Eagle and lifelong scout and now scouter, most of us are actually ambivalent about the issue. We do not actually interact at all with national BSA, we are a local troop, meet weekly, camp monthly, try to instill leadership, small group processes, and outdoor skills into the youth.

That we can disconnect them from the electronics once a month and for a few weeks each summer is a major success.

Gay, not gay, whatever
 
2012-07-18 10:18:03 AM
My boyfriend is an eagle scout; getting a kick, etc
 
2012-07-18 10:19:43 AM
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Why would someone object to their 10 year old daughter camping overnight with a straight man, but have no problem with their 10 year old son camping overnight with a gay man?
 
2012-07-18 10:27:41 AM

Aqua Buddha: Why would someone object to their 10 year old daughter camping overnight with a straight man, but have no problem with their 10 year old son camping overnight with a gay man?


I usually don't assume everyone is a pedophile, do you?
 
2012-07-18 10:29:46 AM

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Why would someone object to their 10 year old daughter camping overnight with a straight man, but have no problem with their 10 year old son camping overnight with a gay man?




Statistically, it's far, far more likely that the father is the one doing the abusing, and those camping trips are blessed relief.
 
2012-07-18 10:38:50 AM

alywa: Suck it long and hard. Just don't go trying to gay up the Scouts.



Same-troll trolling?

Here in the Workers' Paradise, it's the Scouts and the Churches that harbour the greatest number of kiddie-fiddlers. I blame the insistence on short pants, knowing a lot of constrictor knots and woodcraft. Hard woodcraft.
 
2012-07-18 10:39:13 AM
what if they're only pre-gay?
 
2012-07-18 10:42:57 AM

Valiente: alywa: Suck it long and hard. Just don't go trying to gay up the Scouts.



Same-troll trolling?

Here in the Workers' Paradise, it's the Scouts and the Churches that harbour the greatest number of kiddie-fiddlers. I blame the insistence on short pants, knowing a lot of constrictor knots and woodcraft. Hard woodcraft.


2 years ago Jerry Sandusky would have been the model troop leader.
 
2012-07-18 10:57:04 AM

Bungles: Joe Blowme: Bungles: Joe Blowme: Bungles: Joe Blowme: Dont like it? Start you own scout groups for gays, problem solved.


Them blacks and Jews should get one too.

Like the NAACP?

Race, yep totally the same as sexual preference.


When we're talking discrimination based on innate characteristics, yes of course it is (as recognised by most Western nations in their laws).

So you are also against the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, HIspanic Caucus, Ladies night, women only gyms, sex segregated restrooms, ect...? If you are then at least you are consistent and i cant fault that.


Oh, you're one of those people. Do you get angry there isn't a White History Month?


Oh, so some are more equal than others. Welcome to the farm.
 
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