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(BBC)   Good news: if you keep breaking the law in the UK, eventually the police give up and stop arresting you   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 136
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2012-07-17 07:38:53 PM
Apostrophe?

Here '
 
2012-07-17 07:50:17 PM
Great Janitor: So, ummmm...where's the part about the U.K.???

If the Australian police wanted to have some real fun, they'd arrest him near the middle of September, fly him to Alaska, just a few miles south of the Arctic Circle, but still several hundred miles from any town. Tell him they'll let him in the nice warm airplane just as soon as he puts on some clothes.


That would be the bit where it talks about Perth.

Perth is in Scotland, which until we finally achieve independence, is still part of the UK.

There is another Perth in Australia. It is now bigger than Perth, Scotland, but Perth, Australia came later.
In case you didn't know that, the clues scattered throughout the article would have probably led you to it, if you had a single farking brain cell. Tayside Police are mentioned several times in the article. There is no Tayside in Australia (leastways, not one big enough to show up on Google Earth), and even if they were, australian police are ordered by state, and Tayside is not on of the states of Australia.
Then you've got the fact the subby mentions it's in the UK, the site linked if the BBC, and of course, in the article, it mentions him walking from Land's End (in Cornwall, UK) to John O'Groats (in Scotland, which is still, sadly, the UK). Unless he took an extremely indirect route, he likely stayed in the UK the whole.
In short, you fail.

Though I'd briefly note that if he HAD gone the "long way around" and crossed over australia to do it, he'd probably have finished by now unless he got arrested someplace else, since he's spent 10 years in jail because he liks to let them hang loose. He's a bit of a tit, really. And so are you.
 
2012-07-17 07:56:16 PM
2 years in prison huh and as soon as he got out he would strip naked again and be shipped back to prison...hum.
One question did he strip in prison because this could be the reason he did not want to leave..lots of action for a naked man in prison.
 
2012-07-17 08:03:07 PM
Menace II Sobriety: So did I read something wrong or is this in Australia?

Unless he broke the law so many times in the UK that they sent him to Australia and then they decided to let him to an awesome naked walkabout....

/what the hell is wrong with nudity anyways?
//WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE KIDS!!!
///not a nudist.


Because it's bad enough some won't stop grabbing their junk through their cloths. Just think what would happen if they were all naked and were free to get a good grip...then go about their shopping.
 
2012-07-17 08:09:56 PM
Neato: I've never found nudity laws to make any sense. I have to look at people's ugly mugs and deal with attitudes all day and they can be far worse than some unkempt bush. And it's not like nudity has ever harmed the psyche of children. Most of them refuse to wear clothes until at least 3.

Most municipalities/counties in the US tie public nudity to "lewd conduct" or some variant specifically so that they're not legally obligated to harass people over dress code violations unless someone actually complains.

Additionally, the majority of states will allow nudity for specific purposes. Using it as a political statement is typically regarded as an exercise of free speech rights, for instance.

Basically the larger governing entity you get the fewer farks are given about what you are or aren't wearing:

--Neighborhood association: Draconian requirements that you never expose your ankles.

--Small town: The cops will arrest you for nudity and you'll be paying a fine or spending a bit of time in jail.

--Large town/small city: The cops will have probable cause to detain you, but mostly because the immediate assumption of a rational person when you see a naked person walking down the street like it's not even a thing is that large quantities of drugs are involved.

--Medium-sized city with a significant hinterland: The cops will stop to ask if you need help or perhaps the loan of some pants. If you respond in a fashion that's basically coherent, they'll shrug and move on, having other shiat to do. You'll probably get tackled if you streak at a sporting event, but you'll still end up with more sarcastic eye-rolling than judicial strictness from the judge.

--Large city: The cops don't care. Most of the people won't even pay attention to you long enough to remember later that you were naked. If you specifically point it out to someone or shove their face in it, you'll get arrested... for harassing a stranger, same as if you accosted them clothed.

--State: What? Naked people? Yeah, whatever, I just had seven guys dressed as S+M clowns cartwheel through my office juggling sex toys as a protest against unfair exclusion of free-range chickens from church bingo games, I don't have the time to deal with your trivial, unremarkable bullshiat.

--Federal: That sounds like a state issue to me. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to put the ball gag back in, these vibrators aren't going to juggle themselves and Bobo is getting impatient.


I imagine this is probably sort of how it works in the UK, too, though their political organization is at times somewhat less hierarchical.
 
2012-07-17 08:10:38 PM
KimNorth: Menace II Sobriety: So did I read something wrong or is this in Australia?

Unless he broke the law so many times in the UK that they sent him to Australia and then they decided to let him to an awesome naked walkabout....

/what the hell is wrong with nudity anyways?
//WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE KIDS!!!
///not a nudist.

Because it's bad enough some won't stop grabbing their junk through their cloths. Just think what would happen if they were all naked and were free to get a good grip...then go about their shopping.


What store are you talking about? o.0
 
2012-07-17 08:35:11 PM
Wizard Drongo: Then you've got the fact the subby mentions it's in the UK, the site linked if the BBC, and of course, in the article, it mentions him walking from Land's End (in Cornwall, UK) to John O'Groats (in Scotland, which is still, sadly, the UK). Unless he took an extremely indirect route, he likely stayed in the UK the whole.
In short, you fail.



Well, if he was following Google Maps, he'd take multiple ferries including stops in France, Ireland and the Isle of Man, and eventually take a ferry from Aberdeen to Kirkwall before backtracking to another ferry that gets him within 5 miles of John o'Groats
 
2012-07-17 08:38:33 PM
FriarED1: Dead-Guy: Great Britain is a reference to the Continent which includes the countries of England, Wales, and Scotland.

There are only 7 continents and I'm pretty sure "Great Britain" isn't one of them. It's only a part of the continent known as Europe.


You can tell I am bored because I am responding to this, which I am pretty sure is a troll. Yes the primary definition of continent is to refer to the 7 (or 6 if you call Eurasia only one) major landmasses of the earth. However, continent can also be used to refer to a "mainland" or "relatively large landmass CONTAINing several distinct subregions." Though may dictionaries list these alternative definitions as obsolete, I thought this sentence was a pretty good place to use it that way, and much more apt than any more clumsy constructions such as "large island".

/Being a troll, none of this really matter to you does it, all you care is that someone responded
//It's late, we're both happy, I am going to bed.
 
2012-07-17 08:40:38 PM
He seems like an a**hole. He's not there for his family the majority of a decade, only because he doesn't think he should be forced to wear clothes. If he's single he can do whatever he wants. Once you bring a wife and kids into the mix, the rules change. I don't think his priorities are straight. Kid: "Where's daddy at." Mom: "Oh he doesn't feel like wearing pants so he won't be around for most of your childhood."
 
2012-07-17 09:01:34 PM
Ptsd FTW?!
 
2012-07-17 09:27:39 PM
He's not a threat to public safety or property. It's not completely unreasonable to say even if he will continue to openly defy this particular law, he's been punished enough for it already, served enough time for it, and the value of further incarceration isn't apparent. There isn't a strong need to make an example of him to deter others when most people would not do what he does or be as stubbornly resistant to correction.
 
2012-07-17 09:43:20 PM
Nem Wan: He's not a threat to public safety or property. It's not completely unreasonable to say even if he will continue to openly defy this particular law, he's been punished enough for it already, served enough time for it, and the value of further incarceration isn't apparent. There isn't a strong need to make an example of him to deter others when most people would not do what he does or be as stubbornly resistant to correction.

Intelligent application of the "law?"

Thank you.
 
2012-07-17 11:17:59 PM
Is he on the Paleo Diet, or is he just a poser?
 
2012-07-17 11:46:00 PM
nunpunter: He's not molesting children, or even being sexually aggressive.

Sadly, that's part of the problem. Parents are so f*cking stupid that:

Their child sees a penis = Rape

The over-protective parents of children are part of the reason we can't have nice things. Social conservatives and economic paleo-conservatives (i.e. they read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle as a how-to guide) are the other major reason.

StoneColdAtheist: Is he on the Paleo Diet, or is he just a poser?

That diet is bullsh*t. There is strong evidence that humanity evolved to subsist on cooked food.
 
2012-07-18 12:10:53 AM
drgloryboy: Dirtybird971: Dirtybird971

drgloryboy

davidphogan:

No worries. I am sitting outside on my deck in the shade in 100 degree weather listening to tunes drinking wine just thinking that I could get arrested and fired from my job and put on a sex offender registry if I simply wanted to sit outside naked.


At my last job, my coworker warned me about one of the farm houses we drove past every so often; apparently the old man who lives there likes to sit naked on his deck in full view of the road sometimes. He also mows fancy patterns and labyrinths into his lawn, which is pretty amusing. I've never seen his glory and I'm pretty happy about that, but I do love that he apparently gets away with it.
 
2012-07-18 12:17:16 AM
If I see a naked guy on the street, I go "Huh. There goes a naked guy." Then I get on with my day.
 
2012-07-18 12:28:07 AM
Menace II Sobriety: Menace II Sobriety: So did I read something wrong or is this in Australia?

Unless he broke the law so many times in the UK that they sent him to Australia and then they decided to let him to an awesome naked walkabout....

/what the hell is wrong with nudity anyways?
//WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE KIDS!!!
///not a nudist.

Didn't realize there was another Perth. D'oh. Well, the slashies still stand.


It's a UK paper, so they are not going to say "Perth (the original one in Scotland)" just for the benefit of American readers, it's just assumed that they mean the one in the UK. That particular city has been around 6-7 times longer than your country.

Same goes for Birmingham, Halifax, Manchester, Glasgow, York, Newcastle, Scarborough, Newark, ..... for places where the original town or village is much smaller than its New World descendant, you will get a qualifier, e.g. Boston (Lincs) or Dallas (Ayrshire)

/ it's Europe, where the history comes from
// newbie countries, sheesh
/// why do Murricans pride themselves on their lack of knowledge of international geography (other than the Middle East, which y'all regularly invade)?
 
2012-07-18 12:34:57 AM
Sid_6.7: StoneColdAtheist: Is he on the Paleo Diet, or is he just a poser?

That diet is bullsh*t. There is strong evidence that humanity evolved to subsist on cooked food.


Sorry, I was trying to make a joke about him running around naked like a caveman, but perhaps eating modern Scottish food (which might make one wish to run around naked).

That said, I know several folks on paleo diets, and all of them cook their food just like normal. They don't eat grains, sugars, dairy or spuds.
 
2012-07-18 12:34:59 AM
Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Wizard Drongo: Then you've got the fact the subby mentions it's in the UK, the site linked if the BBC, and of course, in the article, it mentions him walking from Land's End (in Cornwall, UK) to John O'Groats (in Scotland, which is still, sadly, the UK). Unless he took an extremely indirect route, he likely stayed in the UK the whole.
In short, you fail.


Well, if he was following Google Maps, he'd take multiple ferries including stops in France, Ireland and the Isle of Man, and eventually take a ferry from Aberdeen to Kirkwall before backtracking to another ferry that gets him within 5 miles of John o'Groats


That has to be a deliberate Easter Egg, c.f. the directions it used to offer from the US to Europe (go to NYC, swim over the Atlantic, ...) the A9 north of the Black Isle is slow going but not that slow.
 
2012-07-18 12:53:38 AM
ibgrad: FriarED1: Dead-Guy: Great Britain is a reference to the Continent which includes the countries of England, Wales, and Scotland.

There are only 7 continents and I'm pretty sure "Great Britain" isn't one of them. It's only a part of the continent known as Europe.

You can tell I am bored because I am responding to this, which I am pretty sure is a troll. Yes the primary definition of continent is to refer to the 7 (or 6 if you call Eurasia only one) major landmasses of the earth. However, continent can also be used to refer to a "mainland" or "relatively large landmass CONTAINing several distinct subregions." Though may dictionaries list these alternative definitions as obsolete, I thought this sentence was a pretty good place to use it that way, and much more apt than any more clumsy constructions such as "large island".

/Being a troll, none of this really matter to you does it, all you care is that someone responded
//It's late, we're both happy, I am going to bed.


Actually, "Great Britain" refers to all of England, Scotland and Wales, including the parts that are on islands (Scilly, Anglesey, Skye, Western Isles, Orkneys, Shetland, ....)

The term for the connected landmass containing most of England, Scotland and Wales is "UK Mainland"

And y'all also forgot the term "British Isles", which includes all of Great Britain plus the Isle of Man (British dependency, not part of the UK) and the whole of the island of Ireland, the latter consisting of the independent country the Republic of Ireland (aka Eire, also not part of the UK) and the province of Northern Ireland (part of the UK, but not Great Britain)

In football (soccer) Northern Ireland is its own country for international competition purposes
In rugby, the whole island of Ireland (Eire plus NI) fields a team as simply "Ireland"
In the Olympic Games, people from Northern Ireland now compete as part of the Great Britain team (NI didn't exist in 1908)

/ confused yet?
 
2012-07-18 01:34:39 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-18 02:06:58 AM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: If I see a naked guy on the street, I go "Huh. There goes a naked guy." Then I get on with my day.

Considering your handle, I'd have figured that you'd be taking a more pro active approach
 
2012-07-18 02:42:38 AM
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Hugh Laurie?
 
2012-07-18 03:16:37 AM
davidphogan: He should just move somewhere that allows naked people.

fark that. He's taking a stand for nudity, so that he can ramble nakedly.
 
2012-07-18 03:54:19 AM
er they don't arrest any one full stop. perhaps except grannies who fill their bins too full
 
2012-07-18 06:57:08 AM
This just in, multiple places will sometimes have the same name.

(Do you guys only get it when there's a 'New' in front or something?)
 
2012-07-18 07:29:40 AM
Cybernetic: Sunscreen

In Perth? Hardly an essential.
 
2012-07-18 07:46:18 AM
StoneColdAtheist: Is he on the Paleo Diet, or is he just a poser?

the Pablo diet?

crackbillionair.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-18 07:48:18 AM
Tainted1: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: If I see a naked guy on the street, I go "Huh. There goes a naked guy." Then I get on with my day.

Considering your handle, I'd have figured that you'd be taking a more pro active approach


i would have called the cops. they love it when sticklers for the law call them. and they're not rescuing people from certain danger, but just mindlessly following laws!

www.doobybrain.com
 
2012-07-18 09:59:20 AM
Great Janitor: So, ummmm...where's the part about the U.K.???

If the Australian police wanted to have some real fun, they'd arrest him near the middle of September, fly him to Alaska, just a few miles south of the Arctic Circle, but still several hundred miles from any town. Tell him they'll let him in the nice warm airplane just as soon as he puts on some clothes.


FFS. Don't you people realise that loads of the countries we invaded have places named after other places in the motherland? This is Perth in Scotland, as a small number of posters seem to have realised.
 
2012-07-18 10:02:10 AM
When you start talking about "The British Isles" it gets even weirder. That does include Ireland. We didn't name ourselves, the Greeks and Romans decided what the islands north of France would be called. We weren't any sort of nation, we were a bunch of tribes trying to kill each other.
 
2012-07-18 01:10:53 PM
Burchill: We weren't any sort of nation, we were a bunch of tribes trying to kill each other.

Much like we are today.
 
2012-07-18 02:13:22 PM
ParaHandy: Actually, "Great Britain" refers to all of England, Scotland and Wales, including the parts that are on islands (Scilly, Anglesey, Skye, Western Isles, Orkneys, Shetland, ....)

It's more complex than that. Politically 'Great Britain' in 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island' does include the English, Welsh and Scottish islands. Geographically it is the name of the largest island.

Great Britain
 
2012-07-18 03:24:28 PM
jwrw: ParaHandy: Actually, "Great Britain" refers to all of England, Scotland and Wales, including the parts that are on islands (Scilly, Anglesey, Skye, Western Isles, Orkneys, Shetland, ....)

It's more complex than that
[...]

Boudica's Law: eventually, every internet discussion about anything north and west of France will feature this Venn diagram:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-18 03:55:31 PM
MBooda: jwrw: ParaHandy: Actually, "Great Britain" refers to all of England, Scotland and Wales, including the parts that are on islands (Scilly, Anglesey, Skye, Western Isles, Orkneys, Shetland, ....)

It's more complex than that [...]

Boudica's Law: eventually, every internet discussion about anything north and west of France will feature this Venn diagram:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 642x599]


Very good, but you missed out Aldernay and Sark :)
 
2012-07-19 12:29:41 AM
ibgrad: FriarED1: Dead-Guy: Great Britain is a reference to the Continent which includes the countries of England, Wales, and Scotland.

There are only 7 continents and I'm pretty sure "Great Britain" isn't one of them. It's only a part of the continent known as Europe.

You can tell I am bored because I am responding to this, which I am pretty sure is a troll. Yes the primary definition of continent is to refer to the 7 (or 6 if you call Eurasia only one) major landmasses of the earth. However, continent can also be used to refer to a "mainland" or "relatively large landmass CONTAINing several distinct subregions." Though may dictionaries list these alternative definitions as obsolete, I thought this sentence was a pretty good place to use it that way, and much more apt than any more clumsy constructions such as "large island".

/Being a troll, none of this really matter to you does it, all you care is that someone responded
//It's late, we're both happy, I am going to bed.


School must have been different in your neck of the woods. The British Isles are islands (duh) and part of the continent of Europe. There is not really a distinct break between Europe and Asia, but they're still separate continents.

/I'd go on, but it's late out here now and I have to go to work in the morning.
 
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