It was filled with hotpants.

namatad: This story is clearly a fraud. A giant container shiped, filled with cargo, sailing from the US to Belguim?
Clearly that is a lie. Everyone knows that the US doesn't make or export anything.



Landbridge shipping to a Post Panamax carrier. While I'm sure it carries American cargo, it likely carries Chinese junk that arrived in LA, was put on a train, and went out of Charleston.

TheGreatGazoo: It was filled with Bud and Coors Light because Belgians have a secret craving for them.

$31,000/shipping container sounds a bit low.

Not necessarily....more and more agricultural products are being shipped via containers these days.

if only there was some ater around they could use to put out the fire......

Water......dang old crappy keyboard....
if only there was some water......

shoulda used spellcheck, i know....

I export agricultural products from the US for a living. Been doing it twenty years now. I assure you the US exports TONS of products every day.

Not seeing her on here.

Link

Did the ironic tag take a vacation?

Maud Dib: Not seeing her on here.

Link

I had to click your link to understand. Land based guy here. It made me laugh and then feel dumb (happens often)

Anybody got the marshmallows?

"Inflammable" means "flammable"? What a country!

theotherwhitemeat: I export agricultural products from the US for a living. Been doing it twenty years now. I assure you the US exports TONS of products every day.

I sell a lot of beef to China. Between that and the tons of tobacco North Carolina sells to the Chinese, we are doing our part to kill them all with either cancer or heart disease.

Rapmaster2000: namatad: This story is clearly a fraud. A giant container shiped, filled with cargo, sailing from the US to Belguim?
Clearly that is a lie. Everyone knows that the US doesn't make or export anything.

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Landbridge shipping to a Post Panamax carrier. While I'm sure it carries American cargo, it likely carries Chinese junk that arrived in LA, was put on a train, and went out of Charleston.

None of those connect with Charleston. Also, this. (PDF pops)

/Just saying

Maud Dib: Not seeing her on here.

Link

Fabulous website! Thank you. Now I can name them Boats I'm seeing here off Ocean Shores.

It looks like the Dresden is goin' 13 knots into the Westport jetty...good times!

I like my ships like I like my men - flaaaaaming.

Headline reads: One dead as container ship, whose last port was Charleston, drifts, burning, in Atlantic

How I read it: One dead-ass container ship, whose last port was Charleston, drifts, burning, in Atlantic

TheGreatGazoo: It was filled with Bud and Coors Light because Belgians have a secret craving for them.

Nah. It's hard to believe, but Belgium has generic boring-as-hell beers of their own.

Rapmaster2000: namatad: This story is clearly a fraud. A giant container shiped, filled with cargo, sailing from the US to Belguim?
Clearly that is a lie. Everyone knows that the US doesn't make or export anything.

[people.hofstra.edu image 850x630]

Landbridge shipping to a Post Panamax carrier. While I'm sure it carries American cargo, it likely carries Chinese junk that arrived in LA, was put on a train, and went out of Charleston.

Freight comes into Charleston from all over the world and goes out of Charleston to all over the world. Some goods passing through are made in the US, most are not. Such is the nature of an international seaport. Just because this ship called on Charleston does not mean that it offloaded or shipped containers. It may have called only for fuel, repairs, shore leave, etc.

Rapmaster2000: namatad: This story is clearly a fraud. A giant container shiped, filled with cargo, sailing from the US to Belguim?
Clearly that is a lie. Everyone knows that the US doesn't make or export anything.

[people.hofstra.edu image 850x630]

Landbridge shipping to a Post Panamax carrier. While I'm sure it carries American cargo, it likely carries Chinese junk that arrived in LA, was put on a train, and went out of Charleston.

Oh, sweet. I love Ticket To Ride too.

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Anybody got the marshmallows?

MY MANWICH!

Not sure why Michael has anything to do with this...

Arkanaut: "Inflammable" means "flammable"? What a country!

Is this a meme I'm not aware of? Inflammable means capable of being set alight in every native English-speaking country I'm aware of...

To cite the two largest:

The United States (Random House, Collins)
The United Kingdom (Cambridge)

Between just those, that's about 75% of the world's native (first-language) English speakers, who should be familiar with inflammable...

TheGreatGazoo: It was filled with Bud and Coors Light because Belgians have a secret craving for them.

$31,000/shipping container sounds a bit low.

Not really, standard liability is typically a per kilo rate. Ive see this vary by commodity and carrier...so I can see how it would be a $31,000/container LIABILITY to the carrier but the actual VALUE of said burnt up and crispy items might and probably is higher. Also, alot of companies are self insured and just ship using whatever the standard valuation a carrier has. One of our biggest clients never purchases insurance from us to cover their million dollar semiconductor equipment that we move day in day out and opt for our $5/lb standard coverage

Maud Dib: Not seeing her on here.

Link

Cool, Flightaware for boats.

Cerebral Knievel: I want to get two of those half sized shipping containers, weld them together side by side, chop out the joining walls, and make a work shop/garage out of them.

what's the average price on those things anyways? and whats the best way to get them for the best price? just go down to the ship yard and say wassup?

You can find them for sale at places like the State Port in Wilmington, NC, occasionally. Usually they are sold as surplus via auction. Even the beat-up containers ain't cheap.

Or you can buy them via the internets.

Actually, my company has a lot of equipment on board the Flaminia, heading for a scientific project in Macedonia. The loss may cripple our cash flow and bankrupt the company, either because the project is delayed a year (if the equipment is undamaged) or the insurance settlement on damaged equipment comes too late. We should have known to choose a vessel with almost any other name. By the way, the US is second or third largest among exporting companies in value of goods, close to Germany and behind only China. We also have huge service exports.

Cerebral Knievel: I want to get two of those half sized shipping containers, weld them together side by side, chop out the joining walls, and make a work shop/garage out of them.

what's the average price on those things anyways? and whats the best way to get them for the best price? just go down to the ship yard and say wassup?

People also make houses out of them.

Actually quite serious.

Rapmaster2000: Landbridge shipping to a Post Panamax carrier. While I'm sure it carries American cargo, it likely carries Chinese junk that arrived in LA, was put on a train, and went out of Charleston.

Actually Chinese stuff gets shipped directly from China to Europe, usually into Rotterdam or Hamburg.

Usually when my Flaminia burns, the doc just gives me some cream and it feels much better.

Tonyboy: Actually quite serious.

Well that farking sucks. Sorry.

Tonyboy: Actually, my company has a lot of equipment on board the Flaminia, heading for a scientific project in Macedonia. The loss may cripple our cash flow and bankrupt the company, either because the project is delayed a year (if the equipment is undamaged) or the insurance settlement on damaged equipment comes too late. We should have known to choose a vessel with almost any other name. By the way, the US is second or third largest among exporting companies in value of goods, close to Germany and behind only China. We also have huge service exports.

Did your company book directly with the steamship or with a shipping company? If you went thru a shipping company you should be able to file a claim with them immediately and get that process started. After that, its up to the shipping company to pursue the claim with the steamship (been there, done that - not fun, neither are airline claims).

gweilo8888: Arkanaut: "Inflammable" means "flammable"? What a country!

Is this a meme I'm not aware of? Inflammable means capable of being set alight in every native English-speaking country I'm aware of...

To cite the two largest:

The United States (Random House, Collins)
The United Kingdom (Cambridge)

Between just those, that's about 75% of the world's native (first-language) English speakers, who should be familiar with inflammable...

Flammable and inflammable mean exactly the same thing... burns easily.

According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, back in the 1920s the National Fire Protection Association urged people to start using the word 'flammable' instead of 'inflammable' (which is the original word) because they were concerned some people might think inflammable meant not-flammable.

I'm sorry to learn of the death(s) and injuries, but has "Extra" indicated who is starring in the movie?

I needs to meet up with the cargo ship Extinguishia

Challam: I'm sorry to learn of the death(s) and injuries, but has "Extra" indicated who is starring in the movie?

Ed Burns.

offacue: Maud Dib: Not seeing her on here.

Link

Cool, Flightaware for boats.

Yep. MarineTraffic is one of the more complete one and all free online. And I think it's been operating for like 6+ years now.

That track for MSC Flaminia seem to be the last capture from a coastal AIS station available. Some ship seems to self report on the high seas (through satellite internet or Inmarsat C) but that doesn't seem to be case for Flaminia.

Although, if you wanted for only 3300$/year, vesseltracker.com can offer you a global 24-hour delayed satellite AIS coverage.

/ ExactEarth posted this better map (it's unreadable though. Red is Flaminia, Green is DS Crown).
// I swear, I'm not a salesman for them even if I sound like one.

It occurs to me that having a few PBYs around would have been nice. Slow, but crazy range.