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(eWeek)   In 2008, Sprint became the first US mobile company to launch a national 4G network. This week, it became the first to launch two   (eweek.com) divider line 39
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2012-07-17 10:16:36 AM
And since voice still doesn't work well over LTE they'll have to actually have an old style 3G network piggybacking it so you can use your phone for old fashioned talking.
 
2012-07-17 11:47:19 AM
C'mon, Santa Barbara! C'mon, Santa Barbara!

*click*

... goddammitsomuch....
 
2012-07-17 01:34:11 PM
Haha we have it here in Atlanta, but then you have to live in Atlanta....

/not quite sure who the joke is on here
 
2012-07-17 01:40:01 PM
I can actually map the exact area where 4G drops off in my area to within 10 feet. I feel like I live in Wonder Woman's invisible plane.
 
2012-07-17 01:41:44 PM
I'm sure that Athens, GA & Waco, TX are just tickled pink.
 
2012-07-17 01:43:51 PM
Apparently subby doesn't know the difference between Sprint and Clearwire.
 
2012-07-17 01:44:14 PM
Of course Kansas City gets it, being the HQ of Sprint and all. But how do you pick places like San Antonio over St. Louis?
 
2012-07-17 01:50:04 PM

Mrtraveler01: But how do you pick places like San Antonio over St. Louis?


Superiority of BBQ, naturally.

If this had been held constant, of course, KC would not have been included, but a city in Carolina would have been. (Now, you have to ask yourself- do I mean tomato, vinegar, or mustard-based?)
 
2012-07-17 01:52:56 PM
4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.
 
2012-07-17 02:00:10 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.


I thought there was an "official" 4G standard but the telecoms basically said "don't care, we're calling it 4G anyway."

Link
 
2012-07-17 02:00:57 PM

Gonz: If this had been held constant, of course, KC would not have been included, but a city in Carolina would have been. (Now, you have to ask yourself- do I mean tomato, vinegar, or mustard-based?)


Vinegar-based sauce is an affront to meat and should never be referred to as "BBQ".
 
2012-07-17 02:01:14 PM

Harry's Houdini: Haha we have it here in Atlanta, but then you have to live in Atlanta....

/not quite sure who the joke is on here


pkellmey: I can actually map the exact area where 4G drops off in my area to within 10 feet. I feel like I live in Wonder Woman's invisible plane.


StrikitRich: I'm sure that Athens, GA & Waco, TX are just tickled pink.


I live in Stone Mountain (10 miles from downtown Atlanta) and get no 4G (WiMax) signal in my house, yet there are spots in my subdivision that do. A year ago, I had to travel to Rome, GA a few days (which is 90 miles way in the middle of farking nowhere), and the whole town lit up full 4G bars on my phone. Maybe someone else who lives down here can help me out: Athens I can kinda understand being a huge college town, but WTF is so important in Rome that they keep getting all these tech goodies?

adenosine: Apparently subby doesn't know the difference between Sprint and Clearwire.


Clearwire is majority owned by Sprint, and its network is what Sprint's WiMax is using. What's the significant difference?
 
2012-07-17 02:01:54 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Gonz: If this had been held constant, of course, KC would not have been included, but a city in Carolina would have been. (Now, you have to ask yourself- do I mean tomato, vinegar, or mustard-based?)

Vinegar-based sauce is an affront to meat and should never be referred to as "BBQ".


Molasses or GTFO.
 
2012-07-17 02:02:38 PM

Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.

I thought there was an "official" 4G standard but the telecoms basically said "don't care, we're calling it 4G anyway."

Link


I stand corrected. All the carriers are flat out lying.

I'll laugh my ass off if Apple introduces the iPhone 5 as a "5G" phone. What's to stop them?
 
2012-07-17 02:14:34 PM

The Bestest: Clearwire is majority owned by Sprint, and its network is what Sprint's WiMax is using. What's the significant difference?


Because if Sprint had built it, Clearwire wouldn't need to threaten to skip debt payments because it was out of cash. It also wouldn't spend money trying to market its own line of internet devices. Also, Sprint no longer has majority ownership of Clearwire.
 
2012-07-17 02:24:57 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.

I thought there was an "official" 4G standard but the telecoms basically said "don't care, we're calling it 4G anyway."

Link

I stand corrected. All the carriers are flat out lying.

I'll laugh my ass off if Apple introduces the iPhone 5 as a "5G" phone. What's to stop them?


Absolutely nothing, because a 5G network does not exist for someone to prove them wrong.
 
2012-07-17 02:43:07 PM

The Bestest: I live in Stone Mountain (10 miles from downtown Atlanta) and get no 4G (WiMax) signal in my house, yet there are spots in my subdivision that do. A year ago, I had to travel to Rome, GA a few days (which is 90 miles way in the middle of farking nowhere), and the whole town lit up full 4G bars on my phone. Maybe someone else who lives down here can help me out: Athens I can kinda understand being a huge college town, but WTF is so important in Rome that they keep getting all these tech goodies?


I always wondered why Milledgeville of all cities got WiMax. Wish Athens would have gotten it as well, but hey, hooray for LTE. Too bad I can't upgrade the old EVO until December.
 
2012-07-17 02:45:42 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.


Best article I've seen on the the 4G debate
 
2012-07-17 03:18:52 PM
Verizon needs to buy Sprint and put then out of their misery already.
 
2012-07-17 03:56:49 PM

themindiswatching: Verizon needs to buy Sprint and put then out of their misery already.


If DoJ blocked AT&T from buying T-Mobile, no way in hell would they let Verizon buy Sprint.
 
2012-07-17 05:35:37 PM

The Bestest: themindiswatching: Verizon needs to buy Sprint and put then out of their misery already.

If DoJ blocked AT&T from buying T-Mobile, no way in hell would they let Verizon buy Sprint.


Exactly, Sprint needs to buy T-Mobile, as for some reason TMo always gets the super awesome HTC Android phones. Dying to get rid of my slow and pokey Nexus S 4G, but can't buy Sprint's version of the One X because they won't light up the LTE in GODDAMN SILICON VALLEY until October.

/Seriously, Waco?
 
2012-07-17 05:40:55 PM

Opiate of the Lasses: they won't light up the LTE in GODDAMN SILICON VALLEY until October


Is there a calendar for this somewhere? As long as San Diego eventually gets it...

/Clear almost turned on WiMax here but ran out of money.
 
2012-07-17 05:45:00 PM

Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.

I thought there was an "official" 4G standard but the telecoms basically said "don't care, we're calling it 4G anyway."

Link

I stand corrected. All the carriers are flat out lying.

I'll laugh my ass off if Apple introduces the iPhone 5 as a "5G" phone. What's to stop them?

Absolutely nothing, because a 5G network does not exist for someone to prove them wrong.


The only thing stopping Apple as introducing the iPhone 5 as 5G is Apple. It knows that if it calls the phone 5G, it will get crushed for flagrent false advertising.
 
2012-07-17 08:04:23 PM

themindiswatching: Opiate of the Lasses: they won't light up the LTE in GODDAMN SILICON VALLEY until October

Is there a calendar for this somewhere? As long as San Diego eventually gets it...

/Clear almost turned on WiMax here but ran out of money.


This. I was told by a Sprint rep that they were upgrading the network where I live to LTE, which is why I was having connectivity, roaming, and call quality issues. I want to know when they expect to light it up.
 
2012-07-17 08:05:29 PM

lordargent: Because the first one sucked.


The WiMax speeds are great where I can get actual coverage.. but therein lies the rub.
 
2012-07-18 12:05:19 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.


Pretty much THIS.

Especially since T-Mobile is branding their HSPA+ network as a "4G" spec, when ANYTHING HSPA is essentially 3G.
 
2012-07-18 01:05:20 AM
I've been using Sprint and its 4G (wimax) for a few years here in Washington DC and I love it. I get one bar of 4G service in my house, and I've downloaded multiple torrents through it plenty fast. It's good stuff. Even if their LTE network is better, I'm still glad I've had two years of unlimited data with them at these speeds.
 
2012-07-18 02:06:07 AM

TheEdibleSnuggie: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.

Pretty much THIS.

Especially since T-Mobile is branding their HSPA+ network as a "4G" spec, when ANYTHING HSPA is essentially 3G.


The ITU, the governing body that controls wireless standards, says that HSPA+ is fast enough to be considered 4G. Yes, they dumbed down the definition of 4G compared to the way it was originally written, but HSPA+ technically fulfills the requirements of 4G according to the current ITU definition of the technology.
 
2012-07-18 02:46:04 AM
Not ANY area that is supposed to be covered is getting 4G LTE (In Dallas). The only reason I stayed with Sprint was because it was guaranteed. (Yes, in hindsight and getting constantly screwed over I should have seen it coming). At BEST it's spotty. You'll go in and out of 4G spots enough to where it doesn't even matter you have 4G as the phone will lose the signal and go back to 3G making you wait even longer.
 
2012-07-18 06:26:52 AM

Opiate of the Lasses:

Exactly, Sprint needs to buy T-Mobile,


Just what Sprint needs - a fifth transport technology (I know, the old Nextel iDEN is going away, and WiMax is probably done, at least as far as expansion). But that would mean they would eventually have to decide to move all their stuff to GSM or all the T-Mobile stuff to CDMA. That's the one thing that made sense about AT&T + T-Mobile, they are both GSM carriers.
 
2012-07-18 07:47:31 AM
Instead of working on a LTE network, how about increasing the backhaul so I can get better than ISDN speeds, m'kay?

/I'm done with sprint when my contract is up.
 
2012-07-18 08:04:02 AM

ThatDarkFellow: Not ANY area that is supposed to be covered is getting 4G LTE (In Dallas). The only reason I stayed with Sprint was because it was guaranteed. (Yes, in hindsight and getting constantly screwed over I should have seen it coming). At BEST it's spotty. You'll go in and out of 4G spots enough to where it doesn't even matter you have 4G as the phone will lose the signal and go back to 3G making you wait even longer.


Anyone using Sprint in Dallas is a moron. I could never get a signal downtown. Since I switched to Verizon I almost never have a signal issue.
 
2012-07-18 10:44:47 AM

Unobtanium: Opiate of the Lasses:

Exactly, Sprint needs to buy T-Mobile,

Just what Sprint needs - a fifth transport technology (I know, the old Nextel iDEN is going away, and WiMax is probably done, at least as far as expansion). But that would mean they would eventually have to decide to move all their stuff to GSM or all the T-Mobile stuff to CDMA. That's the one thing that made sense about AT&T + T-Mobile, they are both GSM carriers.


Fifth?
CDMA, 1xRTT, EVDO, iDEN, WiMAXX, and LTE + GSM, HSPA, EDGE, and UMTS

That would push them up to TEN networks.
 
2012-07-18 12:15:47 PM

Opiate of the Lasses: The Bestest: themindiswatching: Verizon needs to buy Sprint and put then out of their misery already.

If DoJ blocked AT&T from buying T-Mobile, no way in hell would they let Verizon buy Sprint.

Exactly, Sprint needs to buy T-Mobile, as for some reason TMo always gets the super awesome HTC Android phones. Dying to get rid of my slow and pokey Nexus S 4G, but can't buy Sprint's version of the One X because they won't light up the LTE in GODDAMN SILICON VALLEY until October.

/Seriously, Waco?


T-Mobile probably gets the super awesome HTC Android phones because of the network type it's running. Generally speaking the GSM phones seem to come out before the CDMA phones, because outside of North America and a few select other places, GSM is king. Until they both go full LTE, Sprint, a CDMA carrier, isn't going to get much out of buying a GSM carrier.
 
2012-07-18 07:26:04 PM

madgonad: Unobtanium: Opiate of the Lasses:

Exactly, Sprint needs to buy T-Mobile,

Just what Sprint needs - a fifth transport technology .

Fifth?
CDMA, 1xRTT, EVDO, iDEN, WiMAXX, and LTE + GSM, HSPA, EDGE, and UMTS

That would push them up to TEN networks.


Point taken. I was rolling 1x and EvDO into CDMA; I'm not as clear on the GSM side of data differentiation.

I also remember a discussion I had here with someone who seemed to know what he was talking about, that LTE wasn't purely a GSM technology.

I know from a remote site setup I had to do at work that LTE needs 2 antennas in the device, so when we went with external antennas for the USB "modems" we had to get two adapters and two antennas each. Then we had to wait about three months for Verizon to switch on static IP for the devices, and get us IPv4 addresses.
 
2012-07-19 03:00:59 AM

Unobtanium: I also remember a discussion I had here with someone who seemed to know what he was talking about, that LTE wasn't purely a GSM technology.


Well, in that LTE is packet-switched, and everything before it was circuit-switched, "LTE is not $foo" is a pretty safe statement for most values of $foo, yeah.
 
2012-07-19 08:58:42 AM

Benni K Rok: Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.

I thought there was an "official" 4G standard but the telecoms basically said "don't care, we're calling it 4G anyway."

Link

I stand corrected. All the carriers are flat out lying.

I'll laugh my ass off if Apple introduces the iPhone 5 as a "5G" phone. What's to stop them?

Absolutely nothing, because a 5G network does not exist for someone to prove them wrong.

The only thing stopping Apple as introducing the iPhone 5 as 5G is Apple. It knows that if it calls the phone 5G, it will get crushed for flagrent false advertising.


They should call it the iPhone 5.0 so I can put the ragtop down so my hair can blow.
 
2012-07-19 12:42:56 PM
Is Sprint worth getting? It's only 3.70 and was trading around $20 five years ago.
 
2012-07-19 10:45:07 PM

theurge14: Benni K Rok: Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Arkanaut: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: 4G is whatever these various telecom marketing departments say it means. There is no official 4G standard.

I thought there was an "official" 4G standard but the telecoms basically said "don't care, we're calling it 4G anyway."

Link

I stand corrected. All the carriers are flat out lying.

I'll laugh my ass off if Apple introduces the iPhone 5 as a "5G" phone. What's to stop them?

Absolutely nothing, because a 5G network does not exist for someone to prove them wrong.

The only thing stopping Apple as introducing the iPhone 5 as 5G is Apple. It knows that if it calls the phone 5G, it will get crushed for flagrent false advertising.

They should call it the iPhone 5.0 so I can put the ragtop down so my hair can blow.


iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3G S, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S... the next one will be the sixth generation of the iPhone, so it should be 6G.

/for some reason, reminded of multi-blade razors...
 
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