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(Tech Crunch)   Interesting: inventor has been wearing digital glasses for over 30 years. Scary: a man in McDonalds tries to forcibly remove his glasses. Asinine: they tear up his doctors letter about the glasses. Fail: His glasses recorded the whole thing   (techcrunch.com) divider line 169
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2012-07-17 03:03:17 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Weidbrewer: Okay....I must be missing something here....Paris or US, McD's or BK, doctor's note or not....but why the fark did this happen and why are so many people in here acting like the attackers were completely justified? It's a serious question....why does he need to carry a Dr's note to where funky glasses, and why did these guys feel the overwhelming urge to rip them off?

Carry fancy expensive electronics into a slum and see what happens.


Are you comparing Champs-Élysées to a slum? I mean, I know it's fun to hate on Paris and all, but come on.
 
2012-07-17 03:08:09 PM  

kungfu jesus with a side of lime:
is that McDonalds chicken ranch dinner?


Prepare to be molested in French!
En Guarde!
 
2012-07-17 03:11:08 PM  
Of all the places to get food in Paris, he chose to go to McDonalds?
 
2012-07-17 03:11:59 PM  

MooseUpNorth: It's because they're attached semi-permanently. He can't remove them upon request. They apparently requires special tools to remove. The doctor's note is in the vain hope that authoritarian types can read a paragraph without losing their shiat.


So? Lemme get this straight - if something is semi-permanently attached, one has the right to just go up to someone and rip it off 'cause they feel like it?

Gelatinous: y guess is there's funny business going on at that particular location (drug sales, money laundering, or maybe some uniquely French crime), and the tough guys thought Mann was some kind of spy or reporter.


Best reasoning I've heard so far.
 
2012-07-17 03:18:38 PM  

drxym: What the hell is up with these McDonalds? Who gives a crap if someone photographs their menu or not?


They choose to exercise their right to privacy, far more than we Americans do.

Sounds like he should be filing assault charges for what happened to him.

He did. The cops basically didn't care. Probably because he was technically in violation of laws regarding photography on private property. He also got no response from diplomats or politicians.

It is pretty stupid to have a conspicuous set of glasses / camera bolted to your skull though.

He's visually impaired, and is a pioneer of visual assistance technology. It's basically his bionic eye.
 
2012-07-17 03:22:59 PM  

MythDragon: The Flexecutioner: MythDragon: The Flexecutioner: misanthropologist: This is what happens when you do the low-class tourist thing. Why the fark would you bother with MacDonald's in Paris? Or anywhere for that matter...?

but where else can you get a Mayonnaise Crab sandwich other than a McD's in China?

[farm1.staticflickr.com image 500x379]

i took this in 2007, so maybe the menu changed.

Dude, that's crawfish. Not crab. Somone lied to you, or you don't read the English so good.

and you dont follow the rest of thread. read a few more posts before going all jackass.

But that would require effort on my part. Don't be hatin' just because someone already pointed that out to you.
Besides, I didn't read. You can't read. So there. :P


actually, i can read but made a simple mistake. you then pull the jackass card to just be insulting because you like to be. im just going to point out repeatedly that you are a jackass. and assumptively incorrect.
 
2012-07-17 03:30:07 PM  

Gelatinous: My guess is there's funny business going on at that particular location (drug sales, money laundering, or maybe some uniquely French crime), and the tough guys thought Mann was some kind of spy or reporter.


Like moving conterfiet black or white truffles?
 
2012-07-17 03:32:11 PM  

vudukungfu: kungfu jesus with a side of lime:
is that McDonalds chicken ranch dinner?

Prepare to be molested in French!
En Guarde!


quick assume the french fighting stance...
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-17 03:49:08 PM  
Am I really going to be the first to say "Holy crap that's awesome, where can I buy it?"
 
2012-07-17 03:50:47 PM  

Maul555: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x360]

It looks like Perp 1 was the manager.


He's not a very good manager, I mean if I went to a McDonald's and everyone was wearing pieces of paper on their faces that had the word "perp" on them I'm pretty sure I would walk out.
 
2012-07-17 03:53:21 PM  

misanthropologist: This is what happens when you do the low-class tourist thing. Why the fark would you bother with MacDonald's in Paris? Or anywhere for that matter...?


Having recently been to France, you might go to a MacDonalds if you want some sit-down for a minute food that takes less than an hour and a half to order, eat, and pay for. Seriously, man. Most the time it was cool taking time to eat, but there is something to be said for the American version of sit down for 20 or 30 minutes, eat and go model.
 
2012-07-17 04:06:52 PM  

The Flexecutioner: but where else can you get a Mayonnaise Crab sandwich other than a McD's in China?


I'm pretty sure that says crayfish, egg, and mayonnaise.... not crab.
 
2012-07-17 04:22:36 PM  
www.nightmares.com
 
2012-07-17 04:39:13 PM  
What, is this guy blind or is it just some dork who's waaaay too into TV?
 
2012-07-17 04:49:01 PM  

cgremlin:
Except that the glasses in question aren't designed as a recording device. The only reason he has any video evidence at all is because he switched it to record, or it always records.


Let's not try to alter reality too much.
 
2012-07-17 04:50:40 PM  

capt.hollister: ModernLuddite: People who video blog in public deserve to be assaulted.

This is not snark or sarcasm. Put your God damned cameras down.

Agreed.

And furthermore, in France you cannot record private citizens going about their business without their express written consent, whether they are in a private place, such as Mcd's, or out in public.

The hell with him. If he feels he must record everything and everyone let him do it in countries like the UK or the US where citizens do not own the right to their own image.


RTFA. It's an experimental setup they hope to use to allow blind people to see. Of course, if you hate blind people, please disregard my earlier statement.
 
2012-07-17 04:53:01 PM  

Weidbrewer: Best reasoning I've heard so far.


Well, it reminded me a bit of a fast food joint (a McDonald's, no less) a few blocks from where I went to college. They were shut down for literally selling drugs under the counter to customers. Back then, if a guy had walked in with a video camera affixed to his shoulder, I imagine they might have gotten nervous very quickly. Anyway, it eventually reopened as a pizza place, which then gave Hep A to a few dozen customers. I never went inside either.

Of course, in this case, maybe the managers are just assholes (I think we have good evidence of that); whether it's to employees or customers, I would bet they're very sensitive to the possibility of footage being used against them (but what are they going to do? Confiscate cell phones?). Anyway, too late.

Smoky Dragon Dish: Like moving conterfiet black or white truffles?


Heh.
 
2012-07-17 04:58:44 PM  
I saw a documentary several years back called "Cyberman". In it, he took a camera dome and attached it (sans camera) to a necktie. He proceeded to walk into Wal Mart with it on, filming his encounter with Wal Mart security arguing like a petulant child that there was no camera inside, so it should be okay, ignoring the fact that if they don't want him there, unless it's for some legally protected reason, he's trespassing.

He's certainly a pioneer, but he's got an attention whore streak to him too.
 
2012-07-17 05:06:08 PM  

Weidbrewer: MooseUpNorth: It's because they're attached semi-permanently. He can't remove them upon request. They apparently requires special tools to remove. The doctor's note is in the vain hope that authoritarian types can read a paragraph without losing their shiat.

So? Lemme get this straight - if something is semi-permanently attached, one has the right to just go up to someone and rip it off 'cause they feel like it?


Um... Was that question directed at me?
 
2012-07-17 05:06:29 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: capt.hollister: ModernLuddite: People who video blog in public deserve to be assaulted.

This is not snark or sarcasm. Put your God damned cameras down.

Agreed.

And furthermore, in France you cannot record private citizens going about their business without their express written consent, whether they are in a private place, such as Mcd's, or out in public.

The hell with him. If he feels he must record everything and everyone let him do it in countries like the UK or the US where citizens do not own the right to their own image.

RTFA. It's an experimental setup they hope to use to allow blind people to see. Of course, if you hate blind people, please disregard my earlier statement.


That may be what he is working on, but the fact remains that his little device has recording capability. I'm not a legal expert, but I'd be willing to bet that that little factoid makes it illegal for use where "right to image" laws exist. Like it or not, you cannot randomly film people.
 
2012-07-17 05:12:51 PM  
Apparently McDonald's employees in Paris don't like people taking pictures of their menus and this isn't the first time Parisian Friends-Of-Ronald attacked someone with a camera in their stores.

Is that anything like friends of Dorothy? Cause they can be vicious beotches.
 
2012-07-17 05:16:31 PM  
The TL/DNR Summary

(Since we seem to have a number of asshats who can't be bothered to read the damn article before they jump to assinine conlusions)

This guy has a bonafide visual handicap. He has been working for decades to develop technology to help overcome this defect (technology which is now seeing fruition in tech for the rest of us). This is a prosthetic device. These idiots trying to grab it from his head is akin to trying to pull the prosthetic leg off of an amputee, or pulling the electric wheelchair out from under a paraplegic. Well, presumably with less falling down (which happened anyways, so...)

This device is attached physically. It cannot be easily removed without tools. Forcibly removing it without tools will likely cause damage to the device, the user, or both. In this case, it appears the device was damaged.

The device does not normally record images for archival, merely buffers them to relay them to the device's wearer. The one exception is when the device registers certain physical issues, which it did, and buffered images did not get overwritten as usual, providing these images here.

This McDonald's has had issues with people video recording for nefarious purposes for some reason, thus the staff, believing this was a video recording device, overreacted. Think like McDowell's in Coming To America.

This guy's had enough issues in the past with authority figures not liking his fancy prosthesis, especially in places/scenarios where recording devices may be restricted. So, he planned ahead and had documentation explaining the nature of the device with a voucher of necessity from a medical expert. McDonald's staff not only disbelieved the authenticity of these documents (within their rights), they also destroyed said documents (over the line).

/Yeah, I know, awful long for a summary...
//in before the first tl;dnr reply to this post.
 
2012-07-17 05:20:03 PM  

capt.hollister: machodonkeywrestler: capt.hollister: ModernLuddite: People who video blog in public deserve to be assaulted.

This is not snark or sarcasm. Put your God damned cameras down.

Agreed.

And furthermore, in France you cannot record private citizens going about their business without their express written consent, whether they are in a private place, such as Mcd's, or out in public.

The hell with him. If he feels he must record everything and everyone let him do it in countries like the UK or the US where citizens do not own the right to their own image.

RTFA. It's an experimental setup they hope to use to allow blind people to see. Of course, if you hate blind people, please disregard my earlier statement.

That may be what he is working on, but the fact remains that his little device has recording capability. I'm not a legal expert, but I'd be willing to bet that that little factoid makes it illegal for use where "right to image" laws exist. Like it or not, you cannot randomly film people.


He only turned on the filming capability when the situation escalated. Thankfully so, from the way he was treated. Are you actually saying that a blindness "cure" would be outlawed due to the fact that it transmits to the retina, because the guy had an explanation from the doctor and the difference between this guys situation, and a blind person in the same situation is negligible. I'm pretty sure that France does not allow you to discriminate due to medical conditions, even if there is a law against filming in public in France.
 
2012-07-17 05:22:34 PM  

ReverendLoki: This guy has a bonafide visual handicap. He has been working for decades to develop technology to help overcome this defect (technology which is now seeing fruition in tech for the rest of us). This is a prosthetic device.


What the hell are you talking about? Steve Mann isn't blind. I've been following his work for years.
 
2012-07-17 05:25:33 PM  

23FPB23: www.nightmares.com


... we dine?
 
2012-07-17 05:28:51 PM  

misanthropologist: This is what happens when you do the low-class tourist thing. Why the fark would you bother with MacDonald's in Paris? Or anywhere for that matter...?


Well, there are situations when one comes in handy:

I took my daughter to Paris when she was eight. We went to a local restaurant in the 4th arrondisement one day. I ordered "andouiette" for her, mistakenly thinking it was a small andouille sausage. "Andouiette" acutally means intestines, which she understandably refused. I couldn't switch with her because I had steak tartare.

So after leaving the restaurant, we went to the nearest McDonald's. Royale with cheese all the way!

/csb
/Never ignore diminutives
/"Pulpito" is not the same as "pulpo" either
 
2012-07-17 05:50:35 PM  

RexTalionis: ReverendLoki: This guy has a bonafide visual handicap. He has been working for decades to develop technology to help overcome this defect (technology which is now seeing fruition in tech for the rest of us). This is a prosthetic device.

What the hell are you talking about? Steve Mann isn't blind. I've been following his work for years.


Steve Mann has been working on a device to contain and help focus his awesome laser-vision. He uses this vision to communicate with the core of the Earth where pressures are so great there is no emotion left in the particles.
 
2012-07-17 06:21:04 PM  

RexTalionis: ReverendLoki: This guy has a bonafide visual handicap. He has been working for decades to develop technology to help overcome this defect (technology which is now seeing fruition in tech for the rest of us). This is a prosthetic device.

What the hell are you talking about? Steve Mann isn't blind. I've been following his work for years.


*rereads article* OK, my bad. Reading the bit about how he has used this tech to help the visually handicapped (which doesn't necessarily mean blind), plus the end about designing it to help people see better planted that nugget of misinformation in my head. Keep in mind this isn't all from the article, but also from his (linked) post on the event.

OK, so scratch that bit. It's still attached and not easily removed, though I don't see mention of exactly how.
 
2012-07-17 06:24:05 PM  

A story about McDonalds?

i301.photobucket.com


Write a story about this picture instead. Guaranteed to be more interesting and informative.
 
2012-07-17 06:26:38 PM  

capt.hollister: machodonkeywrestler: capt.hollister: ModernLuddite: People who video blog in public deserve to be assaulted.

This is not snark or sarcasm. Put your God damned cameras down.

Agreed.

And furthermore, in France you cannot record private citizens going about their business without their express written consent, whether they are in a private place, such as Mcd's, or out in public.

The hell with him. If he feels he must record everything and everyone let him do it in countries like the UK or the US where citizens do not own the right to their own image.

RTFA. It's an experimental setup they hope to use to allow blind people to see. Of course, if you hate blind people, please disregard my earlier statement.

That may be what he is working on, but the fact remains that his little device has recording capability. I'm not a legal expert, but I'd be willing to bet that that little factoid makes it illegal for use where "right to image" laws exist. Like it or not, you cannot randomly film people.


Thanks for pointing out that you're not a legal expert.. some people might have been confused by your brilliant legal analysis that McDonald's employees are legally justified and empowered to physically assault someone who hasn't actually done anything wrong.

Seems the 'Right to Image' laws you speak of have little to do with capturing someone's image in public and primarily involve publishing those images without permission.
 
2012-07-17 06:32:29 PM  
Oh, so there are fearful, ignorant savages who strike out at anything they find unusual, in France too? Whowouldathunkit?
 
2012-07-17 06:42:21 PM  

karmaceutical: This is some Consumerist level blogo-whining.


It's hardly whining to object to people physically assaulting you!
 
2012-07-17 06:49:10 PM  

ReverendLoki: RexTalionis: ReverendLoki: This guy has a bonafide visual handicap. He has been working for decades to develop technology to help overcome this defect (technology which is now seeing fruition in tech for the rest of us). This is a prosthetic device.

What the hell are you talking about? Steve Mann isn't blind. I've been following his work for years.

*rereads article* OK, my bad. Reading the bit about how he has used this tech to help the visually handicapped (which doesn't necessarily mean blind), plus the end about designing it to help people see better planted that nugget of misinformation in my head. Keep in mind this isn't all from the article, but also from his (linked) post on the event.

OK, so scratch that bit. It's still attached and not easily removed, though I don't see mention of exactly how.


Worst backpeddle in Fark history right here, folks.
 
2012-07-17 06:55:47 PM  

misanthropologist: This is what happens when you do the low-class tourist thing. Why the fark would you bother with MacDonald's in Paris? Or anywhere for that matter...?


I like going to McDonalds restaurants in other countries because they often have unusual items on the menus. In fact I went recently to a Paris McDonalds and got some kind of ciabatta burger with pepper sauce and a drink called a Banania.
 
2012-07-17 06:58:02 PM  
farking frenchies. Goddamn frogs.

France has scare-prone luddite guidos, too.

This is why I have no compassion for my own geographical roots.

And doubly why I agree with Mike Krahulik's stance on bullies.

"I will personally burn everything I've made to the farking ground if I think I can catch them in the flames."

That, folks, is true gangster right there.
 
2012-07-17 06:59:40 PM  

MythDragon: [images.wikia.com image 764x573]
Not amused.
/but probably would have killed them all in .73 seconds.
//Damn I wish I had shades like that. *snikt*


"You idiots put pickles on my burger! I never asked for this!" *knocks everyone the fark out*

/Going for the "Pacifist" cheevo
 
2012-07-17 07:11:03 PM  
WordyGrrlStill, anyone who skips out on trying real food when they're in one of the world's centers of great cuisine should be shot. Forced to eat 100 Royales with Cheese, and then shot again. And then guillotined.

I have to say, I just got back from France, and I ate at a variety of places... the food at places like Le Procope was quite nice, but if you weren't up for spending 50 euros every meal (and that's as a solo traveler, not for a couple or a family), the rest of the restaurant food was just 'eh' and not generally any better than what you get at the McDonalds.

If you're from some place in the US like Minnesota that doesn't have very good food I can see why you might be amazed by French cuisine, but all I can personally recommend out there is the pastries. I'm visiting Edinburgh, Scotland, now and have been having much tastier food here than I did in France.
 
2012-07-17 07:14:20 PM  
Has anyone posted an 80's sci-fi reference yet? I see Last Starfighter was covered, as was ST:TNG. This is how I imagine it looking if they managed to pull the glasses off him:

"Grab an imager off one of those agents!"

/maybe it's cause I just saw Ted
 
2012-07-17 07:56:35 PM  

WordyGrrl: misanthropologist: This is what happens when you do the low-class tourist thing. Why the fark would you bother with MacDonald's in Paris? Or anywhere for that matter...?

Because low-class friends of said tourists don't know what an Arc de Triomphe or Louvre are and will not be interested in things they do not comprehend. But they DO know what a McDonald's is and will express curiosity about how the Parisian McDonald's is different from their neighborhood's McDonald's.

Still, anyone who skips out on trying real food when they're in one of the world's centers of great cuisine should be shot. Forced to eat 100 Royales with Cheese, and then shot again. And then guillotined.

/Did NOT go to McDonald's, but did have steak frites at a sidewalk cafe in Paris, and yes, the meal was sublime and inexpensive.


Give it a break hipster foodie. I've been to, Paris, Nice, and parts of the pyrenees, there is nothing special about french cuisine except the outrageous price and the shiat attitude of the servers like they're doing me a huge farking favor.
 
2012-07-17 07:59:36 PM  

Eriond: Has anyone posted an 80's sci-fi reference yet? I see Last Starfighter was covered, as was ST:TNG. This is how I imagine it looking if they managed to pull the glasses off him:

"Grab an imager off one of those agents!"

/maybe it's cause I just saw Ted


Holy shiat. You posted a video to Youtube just for that? Epic.

And funny vid.

//Rum.
 
2012-07-17 08:01:10 PM  

Cpl.D: A story about McDonalds?

[i301.photobucket.com image 500x281]

Write a story about this picture instead. Guaranteed to be more interesting and informative.


Tom Green?
 
2012-07-17 08:20:35 PM  
As usual, people tend to not be able to separate the issues.

1. McDonald's had the right and perogative to not allow, or care for, him to record or photograph the inside of their establishment. Whether we agree with this or not, that's ok.
 
2012-07-17 08:23:43 PM  
farking fat fingers..posted before;

2. Their response is plain wrong. Did they have no other alternative? "Please, sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. Oh, you refuse to leave? That's ok, I'll call the police. They have the authority to make you piss you pants."

Their opinion and comprehension of his activities are one issue, their response is another entirely. Just because someone is doing something you don't like doesn't mean you automatically get to do whatever you want to them.
 
2012-07-17 08:28:16 PM  
Time will come when we all wear something like that...and solve situations like that with this:

raygun.10gauge.de
 
2012-07-17 08:33:07 PM  
content9.flixster.com

That's it...blame the Fronch.

/ fronch fries, doncha know!
// I want my two dollars!
 
2012-07-17 08:42:13 PM  

pudding7: "A doctor's note"? WTF, is this third grade? Like some McDonalds manager in Paris is going to give a shiat about your Canadian doctor's note about your weird camera-glasses.


Doctor's notes come in handy for adults in a lot of situations, actually. In airports, for example, going through airport security, people who have had hip replacements or other such surgeries that would show up on x-rays can avoid a lot of trouble by carrying them. Also people that need to carry medicine with them as they travel, such as insulin (which requires both refrigeration and hypodermic syringes.) As I think has already been pointed out, Mann is from Canada and was travelling in France, so one expects encounters with airport security.
 
2012-07-17 08:51:17 PM  

digitalrain: [content9.flixster.com image 359x264]

That's it...blame the Fronch.

/ fronch fries, doncha know!
// I want my two dollars!


Perhaps he should have spoken the International Language
 
2012-07-17 08:52:36 PM  

MythDragon: [images.wikia.com image 764x573]
Not amused.
/but probably would have killed them all in .73 seconds.
//Damn I wish I had shades like that. *snikt*


He needs to be cooler. Like twenty percent cooler.
 
2012-07-17 08:53:23 PM  

BKITU: 23FPB23: www.nightmares.com

... we dine?


and we have a winner!!

/I giggle-snorted ;) Thanks!
 
2012-07-17 08:58:31 PM  
That's why they attacked him? Because his glasses record what he sees? Drive thru next time perhaps....
 
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