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2012-07-17 03:24:09 PM

hubiestubert: At this point, Obama needs to come out in favor of baseball, football, NASCAR, apple pie, puppies, kittens, long walks on the beach, beer and wings, just to watch Congress repudiate such Socialisms...

And given how he's trolling Congress now, he just might.


He's got the GOP chasing its own tail.

It's both A-musing and B-musing at the same time.
 
2012-07-17 03:24:17 PM

fringedmyotis: 404 page not found: So what? I'm a FarkLib™ that's taken to copypasting IRL Facebook comments. You have to admit that these comments are much better than what you've been used to reading from the resident right-wing retards, right? I'm not a troll, I just think that shiat is starting to get real funny around here.

So, the obvious question: Are the Facebook posts legit, or are you being trolled?


I frequently have debates on Facebook with reactionary regressives, and most of them are actually not trolling me when they say things that could be copy pasta from Freeperland.
 
2012-07-17 03:24:35 PM

fringedmyotis: 404 page not found: So what? I'm a FarkLib™ that's taken to copypasting IRL Facebook comments. You have to admit that these comments are much better than what you've been used to reading from the resident right-wing retards, right? I'm not a troll, I just think that shiat is starting to get real funny around here.

So, the obvious question: Are the Facebook posts legit, or are you being trolled?


They banned some user's account for doing the same with Free Republic posts.
 
2012-07-17 03:24:39 PM

THX 1138: "This is a brazen and unwarranted unraveling of welfare reform.

WTF? It's no such thing. If I read it correctly, states have the option of completely sticking with the current system. However this now gives states the _option_ apply for a waiver to the status quo, and attempt a modified welfare model to see if they can do it better.

Or did I get that totally wrong?


Reading it was your mistake. You're not supposed to do that.
 
2012-07-17 03:26:20 PM

Fart_Machine: fringedmyotis: 404 page not found: So what? I'm a FarkLib™ that's taken to copypasting IRL Facebook comments. You have to admit that these comments are much better than what you've been used to reading from the resident right-wing retards, right? I'm not a troll, I just think that shiat is starting to get real funny around here.

So, the obvious question: Are the Facebook posts legit, or are you being trolled?

They banned some user's account for doing the same with Free Republic posts.


shiat. I better knock it off than.
 
2012-07-17 03:28:06 PM

404 page not found: randomjsa: Myth: Obama is doing this to give states more control.

Reality: Obama is doing this to get more people on welfare.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that the more dependent you are on government the more likely you are to vote for Obama.

THIS! The 0bama administration will not rest until they have at least 75% of the American population on food stamps, medicaid, and all other forms of welfare that will make them dependent on the government. Then we will follow the course of Greece and our country, which is going farther down the tubes every year, will be nothing but a shell of what we once were. Than and only than will this administration be content.


5.5/10

too forceful, not enough spelling and grammar errors.

nice incorrect use of "than", so I gave you back 0.5
 
2012-07-17 03:29:24 PM

404 page not found: Fart_Machine: fringedmyotis: 404 page not found: So what? I'm a FarkLib™ that's taken to copypasting IRL Facebook comments. You have to admit that these comments are much better than what you've been used to reading from the resident right-wing retards, right? I'm not a troll, I just think that shiat is starting to get real funny around here.

So, the obvious question: Are the Facebook posts legit, or are you being trolled?

They banned some user's account for doing the same with Free Republic posts.

shiat. I better knock it off than.


Or just not mention where they come from. There is stupid shiat posted here all the time by the same people, and they're still here.
 
2012-07-17 03:29:33 PM

mcwehrle: 404 page not found: randomjsa: Myth: Obama is doing this to give states more control.

Reality: Obama is doing this to get more people on welfare.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that the more dependent you are on government the more likely you are to vote for Obama.

THIS! The 0bama administration will not rest until they have at least 75% of the American population on food stamps, medicaid, and all other forms of welfare that will make them dependent on the government. Then we will follow the course of Greece and our country, which is going farther down the tubes every year, will be nothing but a shell of what we once were. Than and only than will this administration be content.

5.5/10

too forceful, not enough spelling and grammar errors.

nice incorrect use of "than", so I gave you back 0.5


According to 404, you're just critiquing real freeper or facebook reactionary copy pasta.
 
2012-07-17 03:31:38 PM

Serious Black: fringedmyotis: 404 page not found: So what? I'm a FarkLib™ that's taken to copypasting IRL Facebook comments. You have to admit that these comments are much better than what you've been used to reading from the resident right-wing retards, right? I'm not a troll, I just think that shiat is starting to get real funny around here.

So, the obvious question: Are the Facebook posts legit, or are you being trolled?

I frequently have debates on Facebook with reactionary regressives, and most of them are actually not trolling me when they say things that could be copy pasta from Freeperland.


I've seen the "Obama NEVAR WENT TO D-DAY MEMORIAL, OMG, VETERANS YOU BETTER VOTE REPUB THIS ELECTION" image about 5 times on my Facebook. I assure you, they're not trolling, just that stupid.
 
2012-07-17 03:32:15 PM

coeyagi: I alone am best: EighthDay: I alone am best: coeyagi: I alone am best: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Damn that Fartbongo, letting states determine their own policies! If he approves of it. WTF is his problem?

FTFY

0/10. Lie.

Next bridge-dweller please. This is gonna be a long thread.....

The Department of Health and Human Services notified states Thursday that Secretary Kathleen Sebelius would consider waivers "to allow states to test alternative and innovative strategies, policies and procedures that are designed to improve employment outcomes for needy families."

Oh, there you go the information you are looking for is right at the top of the page. Quit trying to spin shiat when anyone with half a brain can read the article.

Obama himself is not the one who has to approve of it.

Ergo, what you said was incorrect. It was the DHHS secretary who would approve it.

So the DHHS secretary has the only say in this. Or do you think maybe her boss would have a say as well?

Would you rather it be status quo and still have FULL control at the federal level? I asked you this before and you deflected like the good partisan hack you are. (And no, I doubt he would review it. Otherwise, why have a DHHS secretary?)


I would think that she is following his directives, otherwise he would be a horrible boss. Also, my argument is that the headline is misleading as well as the few people I quoted, and it is. I have made no stance on the policy positions that the administration has taken on this issue. If you would really like to know my stance on welfare let me know, I will tell you.
 
2012-07-17 03:33:01 PM
Between this, McCain re-endorsing Palin over Romney, the tea Party attendees screaming at their Te Party rep for not being tea partyish enough, hot black chicks can't be lesbians, Mitt's ad getting pulled for copyright infringement, and Bachman finding the Muslim Brotherhood under the bed, this is the lulziest day of the year so far. Oh and Ron Paul calling for him to release his tax returns.
 
2012-07-17 03:34:49 PM

coeyagi: According to 404, you're just critiquing real freeper or facebook reactionary copy pasta.


yes, I see that now, but the explanation was posted as I was posting, so while I shouldn't have posted, I did, cause, well, TIMEMACHINE@!!!!11


:^)
 
2012-07-17 03:35:53 PM

coeyagi: mcwehrle: 404 page not found: randomjsa: Myth: Obama is doing this to give states more control.

Reality: Obama is doing this to get more people on welfare.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that the more dependent you are on government the more likely you are to vote for Obama.

THIS! The 0bama administration will not rest until they have at least 75% of the American population on food stamps, medicaid, and all other forms of welfare that will make them dependent on the government. Then we will follow the course of Greece and our country, which is going farther down the tubes every year, will be nothing but a shell of what we once were. Than and only than will this administration be content.

5.5/10

too forceful, not enough spelling and grammar errors.

nice incorrect use of "than", so I gave you back 0.5

According to 404, you're just critiquing real freeper or facebook reactionary copy pasta.


In all honesty, the original actually read "then and only then". I changed it to "than". So I guess I'm stuck with 0.5/10.
 
2012-07-17 03:38:47 PM

Rent Party: dallylamma: hubiestubert: At this point, Obama needs to come out in favor of baseball, football, NASCAR, apple pie, puppies, kittens, long walks on the beach, beer and wings, just to watch Congress repudiate such Socialisms...

And given how he's trolling Congress now, he just might.

[img.ibtimes.com image 850x603]

I think he's already thrown his support behind beer.

You know what is awesome about that picture? Republicans biatched about him having a Guinness in Ireland. So we can categorically state that not only is the President pro-beer, but Republicans are anti-beer, so fark them even more.


What the fark was he supposed to drink while in Ireland? Morans...
 
2012-07-17 03:39:08 PM

randomjsa: Myth: Obama is doing this to give states more control.

Reality: Obama is doing this to get more people on welfare.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that the more dependent you are on government the more likely you are to vote for Obama.


You are just phoning it in today. Maybe you should take some time off, get some rest.
 
2012-07-17 03:40:04 PM

MyRandomName: You have it wrong.


[SNIPPAGE]

I sure hope you warmed up thoroughly before twists and stretches like that. Otherwise, you're really going to feel it in the morning....

scrinkalicious.com
 
2012-07-17 03:40:11 PM

404 page not found:
In all honesty, the original actually read "then and only then". I changed it to "than". So I guess I'm stuck with 0.5/10.


Nah, you improved it. :) It amazes me that according to that particular poster, we are "following the path of our country"....what does that even mean?????

/do not really want to know.....
 
2012-07-17 03:42:05 PM

I alone am best: Rent Party: I alone am best: Rent Party: jjorsett: How about letting states handle welfare as they see fit, and pay for it themselves? All of them, not just the ones who won't toe the fed line.

Oddly enough, that is exactly what Obama is proposing. States can manage their own welfare to work requirements, and yet, the GOP is whining about it.

The Department of Health and Human Services notified states Thursday that Secretary Kathleen Sebelius would consider waivers "to allow states to test alternative and innovative strategies, policies and procedures that are designed to improve employment outcomes for needy families."

So no, states don't get to manage anything.

Uh, what do you think the waiver is for? Right now the fed allows no variation to the welfare to work rules. Under this rule, states could say to the fed, "Hey, this isn't working, here's a plan that we think will" and the fed would go "Good idea, here's a waiver so you can do that." That's the state managing it.

Or perhaps you're a moron.

Oh, I guess I stand corrected. Allowing states to manage welfare as they see fit, is filling out the proper paper work and the administration deciding if the plan submitted is sufficient or if they like it, then they get a waiver.


Well, deciding if it's within the guidelines of federal law, I think you mean. You know, that Heritage Foundation idea that the GOP imposed on every state with absolutely no recourse regardless of whether it was working for them or not. Fixing that by letting states come up with their own plan is Obama's idea, so it doesn't surprise me that a functional retard like you is all up in arms about it.
 
2012-07-17 03:42:51 PM

THX 1138: randomjsa: Reality: Obama is doing this to get more people on welfare.

Do I dare ask what, in your universe, could possibly be Obama's motive for putting more people on welfare?


Everyone knows that it is the end goal of Socialism to have the ENTIRE POPULATION either unemployed or working Government jobs (which are not real jobs and do not constitute real work). Plus, as everyone also knows, There Is No Such Thing As A Liberal With A Job.
 
2012-07-17 03:43:02 PM

404 page not found: So I guess I'm stuck with 0.5/10.


I think you did a fine job, based on the number you hooked. But I'll refrain from putting a number to it. I'm bad with that.

Like when the doctor asks you where you are on the pain scale from 1 to 10. My answer is always the question, "Which number gets me more morphine?"
 
2012-07-17 03:44:03 PM

dietbubba: Rent Party: dallylamma: hubiestubert: At this point, Obama needs to come out in favor of baseball, football, NASCAR, apple pie, puppies, kittens, long walks on the beach, beer and wings, just to watch Congress repudiate such Socialisms...

And given how he's trolling Congress now, he just might.

[img.ibtimes.com image 850x603]

I think he's already thrown his support behind beer.

You know what is awesome about that picture? Republicans biatched about him having a Guinness in Ireland. So we can categorically state that not only is the President pro-beer, but Republicans are anti-beer, so fark them even more.

What the fark was he supposed to drink while in Ireland? Morans...


It was a glorious trifecta of "The Queen didn't drink at all! Obama is a barbarian!," "Ronald Regan just politely sipped his! Obama is a drunk!," and "Joplin had a tornado! Obama is off drinking overseas!"
 
2012-07-17 03:45:58 PM
Myth: Obama is doing this to give states more control.

Reality: Obama is doing this to raise an army of Welfare Zombies to take over the south and replace God's Country with the world's biggest Church's Chicken location.
 
2012-07-17 03:47:30 PM
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2012-07-17 03:47:59 PM

coeyagi: sprawl15: coeyagi: PanicMan: Can we get some reasonable conservatives around here? I know of about 3 that are regular posters.

The sheer ammount of derp-filled idiots are drowning out reasonable duscusion. It's boring.

One doesn't even show up any more. One is a reasonable slightly libertarian Giants fan. I can't think of a third.

I can think of two, Hubie and Weaver.

Weaver? RINO!


got that right. he's the pivot man in every lib circle jerk.
 
2012-07-17 03:48:16 PM

jjorsett: How about letting states handle welfare as they see fit, and pay for it themselves? All of them, not just the ones who won't toe the fed line.


Um, duh.
 
2012-07-17 03:50:07 PM

karnal: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x400]


that's why you are green.
 
2012-07-17 03:52:15 PM

I alone am best: Oh, I guess I stand corrected. Allowing states to manage welfare as they see fit, is filling out the proper paper work and the administration deciding if the plan submitted is sufficient or if they like it, then they get a waiver.

Or, you're idea of "states managing welfare as they see fit" is completely idiotic and 100% wrong.



Hatch is mad because it got done. You're mad because (I guess) you think it doesn't do anything.

So which it it? Is it a game-changing expansion of State Power or simply entrenching the status quo?

If the former (Which Mr. Hatch is mad about) why do you have a problem with more State flexibility? If the latter, how does it matter? What is there to be outraged about?

And if the latter, your outrage is at odds with what the rest of the GOP is outraged about.

You seem... inconsistent, today.
 
2012-07-17 03:52:20 PM

mcwehrle: 404 page not found:
In all honesty, the original actually read "then and only then". I changed it to "than". So I guess I'm stuck with 0.5/10.

Nah, you improved it. :) It amazes me that according to that particular poster, we are "following the path of our country"....what does that even mean?????

/do not really want to know.....


If you can stomach it, go to Mitt's Facebook page. The comments there are priceless.

Gayle Polis posted this on Mitt's page: DOES ROMNEY KNOW HOW TO GET TOUGH WITH OBAMA???? HE'D BETTER COME OUT SWINGING!!! NO MORE MR. NICE GUY! AS PALIN SAID, LIGHT OUT HAIR ON FIRE!!! WE NEED DONALD TRUMP OUT THERE AND ALLEN WEST - SOMEBODY GET OUT THERE AND FIGHT FOR US!! MITT ROMNEY, GET WITH IT!!!!! PLEASE! YOU CAN'T PLAY IT SAFE - THIS IS THE ELECTION OF A LIFETIME. It's like American Idol - You can't sing safe songs, you have to sing the best you have ever sang in your life - continuously! Mitt, you've got to tear Barack Obama apart on what he's doing to destroy this country! Thread by thread! This country is better than Barack Obama is saying. We're the strongest country on the face of this Earth because of God Almighty, Barack Obama doesn't give him any credit. Mitt, you need to get mad at what Barack Obama is doing to us and our country. FIGHT FOR US!! FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM. FIGHT FOR THE UNITED STATES! OUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT AND you're just playing it safe!!!!

Here's a gem from Gayle's own wall [public]: Everyone who is a Christian, covenant with me and Pray for Barack Obama to be saved. Pray for a situation to come into his life or pray that someone comes into his life whom he respects and someone who knows Jesus Christ and his power that will be such an influence that he will see the truth and accept it. We want America Back, the America of our founding fathers. It looks like an impossibility, but with God all things are possible. When a King honors the Lord, the Lord honors the King and his people. A nation who is blessed is one who honors the Lord. The nation who supports Israel is a nation God blesses. We must double-down and pray that the Holy Spirit will speak to Barack Obama and place Godly people around him that will speak the truth to him. You say impossible......Nothing is impossible with God if we buckle down and really pray. He doesn't realize that he's serving the devil and the devil will turn on him and destroy him. Let's pray to reverse all the corruption in this nation and reverse everything that is against what God stands for.
 
2012-07-17 03:52:48 PM

Dr Dreidel: Needlessly Complicated: I don't get it. The feds are letting states modify the work-to-welfare program to try new things. No one is saying they HAVE to get rid of the work requirement.... if the state wants to keep the work requirement, they can, right?

Can someone explain what the outrage is? What am I missing?

Because Fartbama is a Democrat, and everyone knows Democrats hate work and working people, so what Zer0b0mb0 is doing here is letting the states exempt themselves from the "-to-work" requirement of "welfare-to-work".

Application: "We, the socialist proletariat of the People's State of Taxachussetts, declare our Great Leap Forward. Every non-working citizen will be offered a stipend 600% of the federal poverty line along with a $15/hr job reading the internet for any bad things people say about Dear Leader. This is our new welfare plan, and because we're Democrats who hate work, President Sheriff must accept this plan exactly as written. No take-backsies."

And every liberal Democrat state will submit a waiver, and of course UnPresident ChicagoCrony will grant every such desire. But not for red states. Moochelle's Husband will force Real Americans to work for the welfare they then send to the less American parts of Amercia.

The looking glass threw us here.


Whoa.

/are you ok? Cuz, man, that had to hurt your brain.
//u iz fav'rit 4 r3zun
///ow
 
2012-07-17 03:54:14 PM

Fart_Machine: Because allowing for flexibility through wavers is exactly the same has having no flexiblity at all.


Then why was there so much noise about "Obamacare" waivers?
 
2012-07-17 03:55:31 PM

colon_pow: coeyagi: sprawl15: coeyagi: PanicMan: Can we get some reasonable conservatives around here? I know of about 3 that are regular posters.

The sheer ammount of derp-filled idiots are drowning out reasonable duscusion. It's boring.

One doesn't even show up any more. One is a reasonable slightly libertarian Giants fan. I can't think of a third.

I can think of two, Hubie and Weaver.

Weaver? RINO!

got that right. he's the pivot man in every lib circle jerk.


And you're the jizz mopper in every conservative one.
 
2012-07-17 03:56:46 PM

Diogenes: 404 page not found: So I guess I'm stuck with 0.5/10.

I think you did a fine job, based on the number you hooked. But I'll refrain from putting a number to it. I'm bad with that.

Like when the doctor asks you where you are on the pain scale from 1 to 10. My answer is always the question, "Which number gets me more morphine?"


That Wong-Baker scale is bullshiat. But you reminded me of conversations I'd have with drunk patients in the ER.

Patient: I only had 2 drinks!
Me: How BIG were they?
 
2012-07-17 03:57:22 PM

coeyagi: colon_pow: "The president's action is completely misdirected," Romney said. "Work is a dignified endeavor, and the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life."

not around these parts, Mitt. this is part of the fundamental transformation of America that obama promised.

You truly bring us nothing but stupidity.


*Except he reminds me of Phil Hartman & Colon Blow brand cereal.

/so he's got that going for him
// which is nice
 
2012-07-17 03:58:28 PM

colon_pow: coeyagi: sprawl15: coeyagi: PanicMan: Can we get some reasonable conservatives around here? I know of about 3 that are regular posters.

The sheer ammount of derp-filled idiots are drowning out reasonable duscusion. It's boring.

One doesn't even show up any more. One is a reasonable slightly libertarian Giants fan. I can't think of a third.

I can think of two, Hubie and Weaver.

Weaver? RINO!

got that right. he's the pivot man in every lib circle jerk.


Don't be mad bro, you're still pivot man for the bridge dwelling elite of winterwhile, tenpoundsofderp and karnal.
 
2012-07-17 04:01:57 PM
Obama is forcing the states to change their welfare policies!!! He must be stopped!!!
 
2012-07-17 04:02:25 PM

Rent Party: I alone am best: Rent Party: I alone am best: Rent Party: jjorsett: How about letting states handle welfare as they see fit, and pay for it themselves? All of them, not just the ones who won't toe the fed line.

Oddly enough, that is exactly what Obama is proposing. States can manage their own welfare to work requirements, and yet, the GOP is whining about it.

The Department of Health and Human Services notified states Thursday that Secretary Kathleen Sebelius would consider waivers "to allow states to test alternative and innovative strategies, policies and procedures that are designed to improve employment outcomes for needy families."

So no, states don't get to manage anything.

Uh, what do you think the waiver is for? Right now the fed allows no variation to the welfare to work rules. Under this rule, states could say to the fed, "Hey, this isn't working, here's a plan that we think will" and the fed would go "Good idea, here's a waiver so you can do that." That's the state managing it.

Or perhaps you're a moron.

Oh, I guess I stand corrected. Allowing states to manage welfare as they see fit, is filling out the proper paper work and the administration deciding if the plan submitted is sufficient or if they like it, then they get a waiver.


Well, deciding if it's within the guidelines of federal law, I think you mean. You know, that Heritage Foundation idea that the GOP imposed on every state with absolutely no recourse regardless of whether it was working for them or not. Fixing that by letting states come up with their own plan is Obama's idea, so it doesn't surprise me that a good looking gentleman like you is all up in arms about it.


Who said I was up in arms about this policy position. I am stating that you're original post is full of crap, which it is. The states are not managing their own welfare programs unless they agree with the administration on the correct welfare programs for the state. To help you out I bolded the part you were wrong about.
 
2012-07-17 04:03:36 PM

TheMysticS: coeyagi: colon_pow: "The president's action is completely misdirected," Romney said. "Work is a dignified endeavor, and the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life."

not around these parts, Mitt. this is part of the fundamental transformation of America that obama promised.

You truly bring us nothing but stupidity.

*Except he reminds me of Phil Hartman & Colon Blow brand cereal.

/so he's got that going for him
// which is nice


you're too kind.
 
2012-07-17 04:06:17 PM

I alone am best: Who said I was up in arms about this policy position. I am stating that you're original post is full of crap, which it is. The states are not managing their own welfare programs unless they agree with the administration on the correct welfare programs for the state.


It's funny how you never explained how this is worse than the current system, where they can't change anything even if they want to.
 
2012-07-17 04:06:18 PM

Deucednuisance: Fart_Machine: Because allowing for flexibility through wavers is exactly the same has having no flexiblity at all.

Then why was there so much noise about "Obamacare" waivers?


Because the GOP will biatch about anything?
 
2012-07-17 04:09:42 PM

LasersHurt: I alone am best: Who said I was up in arms about this policy position. I am stating that you're original post is full of crap, which it is. The states are not managing their own welfare programs unless they agree with the administration on the correct welfare programs for the state.

It's funny how you never explained how this is worse than the current system, where they can't change anything even if they want to.


Why would I explain something that I never stated?
 
2012-07-17 04:12:11 PM
You know what?

Fark it. I'm running for office.

I can do a better job than these ass-clowns.

Difficulty is, where to start? We have a neighborhood committee, and I know some of my city counselors.

Also a difficulty, middle class and not a lot of time on my hands.
 
2012-07-17 04:12:15 PM

Deucednuisance: I alone am best: Oh, I guess I stand corrected. Allowing states to manage welfare as they see fit, is filling out the proper paper work and the administration deciding if the plan submitted is sufficient or if they like it, then they get a waiver.

Or, you're idea of "states managing welfare as they see fit" is completely idiotic and 100% wrong.


Hatch is mad because it got done. You're mad because (I guess) you think it doesn't do anything.

So which it it? Is it a game-changing expansion of State Power or simply entrenching the status quo?

If the former (Which Mr. Hatch is mad about) why do you have a problem with more State flexibility? If the latter, how does it matter? What is there to be outraged about?

And if the latter, your outrage is at odds with what the rest of the GOP is outraged about.

You seem... inconsistent, today.


I am actually a pro-welfare conservative. I just wish it was implemented differently. I know its at odds with my current political party.
 
2012-07-17 04:12:34 PM

I alone am best: LasersHurt: I alone am best: Who said I was up in arms about this policy position. I am stating that you're original post is full of crap, which it is. The states are not managing their own welfare programs unless they agree with the administration on the correct welfare programs for the state.

It's funny how you never explained how this is worse than the current system, where they can't change anything even if they want to.

Why would I explain something that I never stated?


Alright, so to recap - you do not think this is a bad thing? And are not "up in arms"? In fact, you have no feelings on this at all?

Why are we here again? Because I seem to remember you talking about this. In text. Right up there. Negatively.
 
2012-07-17 04:12:53 PM

I alone am best: LasersHurt: I alone am best: Who said I was up in arms about this policy position. I am stating that you're original post is full of crap, which it is. The states are not managing their own welfare programs unless they agree with the administration on the correct welfare programs for the state.

It's funny how you never explained how this is worse than the current system, where they can't change anything even if they want to.

Why would I explain something that I never stated?


The problem is that you never stated it. Wouldn't it be refreshing if you guys weren't always trying to make us chase red herrings rather than discuss actual policy? I mean, the world would f*cking end over such an impossible event, but we'd be refreshed.
 
2012-07-17 04:13:30 PM

TheMysticS: Dr Dreidel: Needlessly Complicated:Can someone explain what the outrage is? What am I missing?

Because Fartbama is a Democrat, and everyone knows Democrats hate work and working people, so what Zer0b0mb0 is doing here is letting the states exempt themselves from the "-to-work" requirement of "welfare-to-work".

Application: "We, the socialist proletariat of the People's State of Taxachussetts, declare our Great Leap Forward. Every non-working citizen will be offered a stipend 600% of the federal poverty line along with a $15/hr job reading the internet for any bad things people say about Dear Leader. This is our new welfare plan, and because we're Democrats who hate work, President Sheriff must accept this plan exactly as written. No take-backsies."

And every liberal Democrat state will submit a waiver, and of course UnPresident ChicagoCrony will grant every such desire. But not for red states. Moochelle's Husband will force Real Americans to work for the welfare they then send to the less American parts of Amercia.

The looking glass threw us here.

Whoa.

/are you ok? Cuz, man, that had to hurt your brain.
//u iz fav'rit 4 r3zun
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"I think of a Democrat. Then I take away reason and accountability."

// it was actually pretty easy
// but I get paid to write (policy docs, not fiction; tomayto/tomahto)
 
2012-07-17 04:14:34 PM

Fart_Machine: Deucednuisance: Fart_Machine: Because allowing for flexibility through wavers is exactly the same has having no flexiblity at all.

Then why was there so much noise about "Obamacare" waivers?

Because the GOP will biatch about anything?


I'm almost 100% certain that the GOP would complain if Obama wanted to permanently cut taxes for the wealthy more than the Bush-era tax cuts did, if he wanted to boost defense spending beyond what Mitt Romney wants to do, or if he proposed to wipe the federal regulatory code clean.
 
2012-07-17 04:16:44 PM

Serious Black: Fart_Machine: Deucednuisance: Fart_Machine: Because allowing for flexibility through wavers is exactly the same has having no flexiblity at all.

Then why was there so much noise about "Obamacare" waivers?

Because the GOP will biatch about anything?

I'm almost 100% certain that the GOP would complain if Obama wanted to permanently cut taxes for the wealthy more than the Bush-era tax cuts did, if he wanted to boost defense spending beyond what Mitt Romney wants to do, or if he proposed to wipe the federal regulatory code clean.


They'd loudly complain about power grabs and unilateral action and quietly vote for it when it came up in a bill.
 
2012-07-17 04:17:19 PM

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If you can stomach it, go to Mitt's Facebook page. The comments there are priceless.

Gayle Polis posted this on Mitt's page: DOES ROMNEY KNOW HOW TO GET TOUGH WITH OBAMA???? HE'D BETTER COME OUT SWINGING!!! NO MORE MR. NICE GUY! AS PALIN SAID, LIGHT OUT HAIR ON FIRE!!! WE NEED DONALD TRUMP OUT THERE AND ALLEN WEST - SOMEBODY GET OUT THERE AND FIGHT FOR US!! and derp such as derp I've never seen before. ...


I think I'm honestly too scared to.

Maybe later, after I drink for a while.
 
2012-07-17 04:17:44 PM

coeyagi: I alone am best: LasersHurt: I alone am best: Who said I was up in arms about this policy position. I am stating that you're original post is full of crap, which it is. The states are not managing their own welfare programs unless they agree with the administration on the correct welfare programs for the state.

It's funny how you never explained how this is worse than the current system, where they can't change anything even if they want to.

Why would I explain something that I never stated?

The problem is that you never stated it. Wouldn't it be refreshing if you guys weren't always trying to make us chase red herrings rather than discuss actual policy? I mean, the world would f*cking end over such an impossible event, but we'd be refreshed.


The problem isn't that I never stated it, the problem is that you assume that because I don't like Obama I absolutely loath anything he does.
 
2012-07-17 04:21:52 PM

I alone am best: The problem isn't that I never stated it, the problem is that you assume that because I don't like Obama I absolutely loath anything he does.


This is still not a direct comment on this issue.
 
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