Dear Canada: we're sorry that our country has no real gun laws and allows Smith & Wesson, Colt and various other companies to flood the planet with murder weapons. Some of us are working on the problem, despite a culture that glorifies murder and the myth of home defense.

Regards,
The United States

The_Sponge: Oh yeah....that's coming from the guy who is soooooo afraid of violence in the U.S. that he had to seek refuge in Canada.

Better than you -- the guy who had to move to the suburbs because he was so afraid of negroes in the city. You racist.

(i can make up bogus biographies for people too)

The_Sponge: Thankfully

You appreciate the "right" to get shot at and to shoot at others? Whatever floats your boat.

Enjoy that high murder rate. Party like it's 1776.

(the rest of us? we like the 21st century, thanks.)

D_Moran: dittybopper: Or, is it just because Canada doesn't have nearly the population of the United States, therefore incidents like this are more rare?

This incident represents the 27th and 28th murder in Toronto this year. In Chicago -- roughly equal in terms of population -- there have been over 260 murders.

Overall, the murder rate in the U.S. is 3X higher than it is in Canada -- 1.6 per 100,000 versus 4.8 per 100,000 (2010).

B-b-b-but population density....!

B--b-b-but racial disparity...!

B-b-b-but Switzerland...!

/the usual gun fetishist arguments when faced with the sad sobering stats that the citizens of the USA kill each other more often than other civilized western populations and that most of this killing is done with easy-to-purchase handguns

The_Sponge: JosephFinn: Dear Canada: we're sorry that our country has no real gun laws and allows Smith & Wesson, Colt and various other companies to flood the planet with murder weapons. Some of us are working on the problem, despite a culture that glorifies murder and the myth of home defense.

Regards,
The United States


Dear JosephFinn: Since you are from Chicago, and you fail to see how your city's strict gun laws have done nothing to solve the violent crime problem, I can only assume that you are an idiot or a troll.

Regards,
The_Sponge

Since the US refuses to enforce the bare minimum of gun laws and allows the shops in border suburbs to keep selling willy-nilly to anyone, I fail to see how Chicago's reasonable gun laws were the problem. Butt keep right on with the myth that having guns makes people safer. The thousands upon thousands of murders and accidental shootings will just keep on happening because of our collective unwillingness to do something about the problem.

Rapmaster2000: Here's the Alabama suspect who is clearly a white person though the media has not mentioned this one time. This is another example of PC POLICE run amok. It makes me want to puke!

hahahahahaa.... not. sure. if. serious.

Rapmaster2000: Here's the Alabama suspect who is clearly a white person though the media has not mentioned this one time. This is another example of PC POLICE run amok. It makes me want to puke!

Meh, they should always mention the race. Unfortunately gun crime by whites is the exception, not the norm.

Scarborough?

*clicks link*


Yep.

Good ol' Scarborough - the Newark, New Jersey of Canada.

Black people...

OnlyM3: Jared Loughner - shot and killed six people, including Chief U.S. District Court Judge John Roll. Left 14 others injured, including U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords.

A registered Independent who attacked a Democratic congresswoman. So there's your first lie, making everything else you said uncredible, but let's oblige your lying ass anyway.

OnlyM3: John Wilkes Booth (cooperhead aka "peace democrat") - Shot/killed Abraham Lincoln

At a time when the parties were switched from their views now. Republican voters now like to hold up Confederate flags, celebrating their glorious past of feudalism and racism (which the Republican Party stands for today). In the past, Republicans were fighting for abolitionism and against slavery/racism. Today, the Republican Party is a fascist and racist organization. The anti-war/peace part of that description is the "peace" of letting fascists get away with their work, much like the conservative opposition to going to war with the Nazis in World War II.

OnlyM3: Charles J. Guiteau (Democrat) - Shot/killed James Garfield

A Republican who killed another Republican because Garfield refused to play political cronyism.

OnlyM3: Leon Czolgosz (Democratic Anarchist) - Shot/killed William McKinley

1) Nothing to do with the Democratic Party, an anarchist. Anarchists oppose the state, capitalism, and all forms of hierarchy. Anarchists oppose both political parties for their participation in the state. Let alone that the Democratic Party is a conservative capitalist party. Leon was a hero who got someone who deserved it. His heroism ranks up there with Emma Goldman, Alexander Berkman, and for more modern examples of such heroism is Revolutionary Struggle in Greece, the anti-fascist movement in the UK, and the people who have taken to the streets in Spain.

OnlyM3: Lee Harvey Oswald (Democrat / Communist) - Shot/killed John F. Kennedy

Someone who joined the Soviet Union against the USA. So he would prefer neither party. He shot an anti-communist (and conservative capitalist) president who was a Democrat. Again, nothing to do with the Democratic Party.

OnlyM3: James Earl Ray Democrat shot / killed MLK [Republican]

James Earl Ray had attended a 'George Wallace presidential campaign rally' the day before he killed Martin Luther King Jr. George Wallace was extremely racist and segregationist. He had run for president on the Democratic ticket but could not become their candidate, so he ran as an Independent. George Wallace was Governor when he stood in the way of a public school as black students tried to enter after segregation was abolished. James Earl Ray was inspired by the Wallace's racist philosophy and rhetoric and decided to kill Martin Luther King Jr.
As an aside, though the Democratic party once included segregationist Dixiecrats, most (but not all) of them abandoned the party during the civil rights era to become Independents or Republicans. Good example: Strom Thurmond. MLK fought for civil rights. The Republican Party is a racist fascist party that seeks to deny them.

OnlyM3: John Hinckley, Jr Registered Democrat" Shot R. Reagan

His motivation (and I should mention that Jared was similarly insane, but with some political bents) was out of insanity and apolitical.

So all of your examples are bullshiat. And yes, violence does come from Republicans or the far right most often in this country. If you're going to try to list property damage as violence or self-defense from armed street gangs/terrorist groups such as the police as "riots" then you'll only be continuing to lie.

rico567: ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Oh, is that why? How simple and enlightening. And in Switzerland, where every household is required to be armed by law, they practically have NO violent crime. So, yep, strict gun laws are the answer all right....nothing to do with violent people, or (which we dare not mention) cultures and subcultures that have institutionalized violence. (I didn't mention that.)


Switzerland is a very wealthy, high standard of living, small country with a population less than New York City. Is this your comparison you want to go with?

/we get it, minorities do all the crime, so lets get rid of their cultures

The_Sponge: bwilson27: The_Sponge:

1) Maybe Canada should loosen up their gun laws.



I don't have you favorited as an Epic Douche for no reason! (Thanks Fark!)


Coming from a complete airhead like you, I'll take that as a compliment.

Yeah....I'm a real douche for merely suggesting that Canada re-consider their gun laws.


Canada should loosen up their gun laws, maybe then they can start competing with America for highest murder rates in the 1st world. You can't be America Junior with such a safe society!

vegasj: We need more diversity!


Aren't you late for your Klan meeting?

/because white people don't commit violent crimes, thankfully

The_Sponge: And your solution is to have my rights taken away.

Your rights to own a gun are moronic and self-destructive. The rest of the civilized world and a large number of your fellow citizens agree.

Deal with it the way you usually do -- cry moar, emo kid.

OscarTamerz: Attractive and successful Afro-Canadians?


No, in Canada we are smart enough to generally describe black people as 'black'. Because, well, a black person is black. A brown person would be descibed as 'brown'. Is there some part of this complex descriptive paradigm that is too confusing for the United States to follow?

/favourite 'African-American' actress: Charlize Theron

OnlyM3: James Earl Ray Democrat shot / killed MLK [Republican]

Oh, this GOP lie again. How tiresome. King was bipartisan. He never endorsed any political candidate. He was not a Republican. According to his sone MKL III:

"It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican. It is even more outrageous to suggest he would support the Republican Party of today, which has spent so much time and effort trying to suppress African American votes in Florida and many other states."

..From an interview with AP in 2008

The GOP is desperate to get black people to vote for their candidates and have fabricated this absurdity in an effort to associate King with the "Party of Lincoln". Unfortunately for them, black people just laugh at the.

rico567: ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Oh, is that why? How simple and enlightening. And in Switzerland, where every household is required to be armed by law, they practically have NO violent crime. So, yep, strict gun laws are the answer all right....nothing to do with violent people, or (which we dare not mention) cultures and subcultures that have institutionalized violence. (I didn't mention that.)

Wow you are Completely retarded ,

Switzerland militia stipulates that you may not use the weapon that you have been issued unless there is a war even to defend your own life -- also they only allow weapons to be kept in the home if you are in out lying areas . So no one in downtown Oslo is keeping a military weapon in their closet .

The penalties for using the army issued gun , even waving it around are dire ,, on top of Fines and Jail they can basically make you a second class citizen ... a resident alien that has zero access to a lot of things people take for granted

And the Swiss do have strict gun laws out side of that

So go back to sucking your barrel

rico567: ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Oh, is that why? How simple and enlightening. And in Switzerland, where every household is required to be armed by law, they practically have NO violent crime. So, yep, strict gun laws are the answer all right....nothing to do with violent people, or (which we dare not mention) cultures and subcultures that have institutionalized violence. (I didn't mention that.)

Switzerland doesn't border the US. and isnt on the same continent as Mexico.

Canada is close to 2 violent gun crime countries

Switzerland is not

Maybe Adam Vaughn can ban B-B-Q's like he wants to ban bullets.....
Our savior....

beta_plus: Blackbird: Hey, I grew up in the Agincourt.

How did you deal with all of the drive by long bow shootings?

/Henry V - he gangsta!

Heh heh, I grew up in Agincourt, went to Agincourt CI, then went to University Waterloo and ended up staying in Waterloo region.
/Major French defeats.

ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Oh, is that why? How simple and enlightening. And in Switzerland, where every household is required to be armed by law, they practically have NO violent crime. So, yep, strict gun laws are the answer all right....nothing to do with violent people, or (which we dare not mention) cultures and subcultures that have institutionalized violence. (I didn't mention that.)

NutznGum: If you're here, GTFO or quit whining. If not, stay in your podunk town, we don't want you.

The saddest part is that you've probably seen so little of the rest of Canada (and the world) that you honestly feel the need to defend your little shiatstain of a city.

Trust me, you can keep her.

Blackbird: Hey, I grew up in the Agincourt.

How did you deal with all of the drive by long bow shootings?

/Henry V - he gangsta!

Funk Brothers: Gun violence in Toronto has been skyrocketing as of late. There was one at Eaton Centre in downtown a couple of months ago.

What is mayor Rob Ford going to do?

Eat a cheeseburger and whine about the Toronto Star?

The_Sponge: Dimensio: JosephFinn is not "trolling". He is a Chicago resident who asserts that his dishonest misrepresentation of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution constitutes established precedent superseding the authority of the Supreme Court of the United States of America.


Now that's really scary.

The same is true of many "birthers", "truthers", creationists and other purveyors of irrational claims.

Biv: Some of us forget what is means to be an American

Apparently, what it means to be the American is to walk around armed to the teeth all the time when we aren't at home masturbating furiously to the latest issue of Guns & Ammo.

I don't own any guns. I must be a Fake American. ]


SithLord: JosephFinn: Dear Canada: we're sorry that our country has no real gun laws and allows Smith & Wesson, Colt and various other companies to flood the planet with murder weapons. Some of us are working on the problem, despite a culture that glorifies murder and the myth of home defense.

Regards,
The United States

You must vote liberal. You deserve what you vote for.

So do you.

SithLord: JosephFinn: Dear Canada: we're sorry that our country has no real gun laws and allows Smith & Wesson, Colt and various other companies to flood the planet with murder weapons. Some of us are working on the problem, despite a culture that glorifies murder and the myth of home defense.

Regards,
The United States

You must vote liberal. You deserve what you vote for.

JosephFinn is an authoritarian fascist.

Scarborough?

No wonder. The biggest shiathole did ever did shiathole.

Might as well pave the entire area down. (They'd be doing us all a favor)

Some other wonderful areas of the GTA:
- Rexdale
- North York
- Much of Brampton
- Entire downtown core

Come to think of it, for anyone considering moving to Toronto, don't. (Unless you enjoy the stink of poverty, ignorance, and corporate greed)

dittybopper: ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Or, is it just because Canada doesn't have nearly the population of the United States, therefore incidents like this are more rare?

I believe statistically speaking we don't shoot each other as often as Americans.

That said we have lots of guns in Canada - 7-8 million for a population of 35 million.

Handguns are fairly common where I live and IPSC is the fastest growing shooting sport. We have a 10 rnd cap on mags for pistols and 5 for most centre fire semis. Certain longguns like ARs are restricted, as are pistols and revolvers so you need a special permit. Some longguns like AKs, and pistols in .25 and .32, as well as those under 105mm are prohibited. There is a whole cottage industry dedicated to manufacturing 106mm barrels for Glock 30s, etc.

We also have unusual laws that treat a pump shotgun with an 8 inch barrel as a long gun as long as its oal is 26 inches.

I wonder if the shooters' pistols were registered and had reduced capacity magazines? I wonder.

Oh no! 2 public shootings within 3 months, in a city of 4 million people! We're all going to die!

Am I the only one that read the headline and thought Toronto caught fire?

dittybopper: ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Or, is it just because Canada doesn't have nearly the population of the United States, therefore incidents like this are more rare?

The murder rate per capita is much lower:
Link

I was hoping for something more like this:

JosephFinn: Dear Canada: we're sorry that our country has no real gun laws and allows Smith & Wesson, Colt and various other companies to flood the planet with murder weapons. Some of us are working on the problem, despite a culture that glorifies murder and the myth of home defense.

Regards,
The United States

As you are an established liar, claims issued by you are not credible.

dittybopper: ontariolightning: Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.

Or, is it just because Canada doesn't have nearly the population of the United States, therefore incidents like this are more rare?

They're definitely trying hard lately to keep up with the US.

Calmamity: I don't think this actually happened, because Canada has very strict handgun laws.

which is why it doesnt happen often.