Who DOES this?
*clicks link*

Ahh.

The real news story here is that it really was a teenager, not just some FBI guy in his 40's.

"Why don't you take a cue from your intended target and have a seat...right over there..."

Ironically, he will soon find himself in the position he intended for his victim: sexually assaulted and unable to walk.

I've done lots of stupid things in the pursuit of getting laid, but flying nearly cross-country? Maybe if it were 1999, when air travel was still easy. But these days with the dick-touching and the hours of security theater followed by surly service and the inevitable fat chick taking up half your own seat?

Seriously, I'd rather stay home and jerk off.

dickfreckle: Seriously, I'd rather stay home and jerk off.

Seriously.

SilentStrider: Who DOES this?
*clicks link*

Ahh.

meh
arizona ... this is normative. all you have to do is take one look at the people that they elect ...

Arizona. It's the new Kentucky!

namatad: SilentStrider: Who DOES this?
*clicks link*

Ahh.

meh
arizona ... this is normative. all you have to do is take one look at the people that they elect ...

Arizona. It's the new Kentucky!

Have you ever been to Bullhead City? I remember going there as a kid and it was 124 degrees one day, I've never felt such a thing since. If anything is to blame beyond the sick fark himself, I'd blame the heat.

AbbeySomeone: doglover: The real news story here is that it really was a teenager, not just some FBI guy in his 40's.

The guy is a grade A scumbag but I am sure the girl knew what she was doing was wrong.

I honestly didn't expect there be a girl, let alone for her to actually be a party to this.

It looks like, for once, there's been an online "predator" I DON'T have trouble with the arrest of.

I thought meals on wheels came to you.

BronyMedic: /yes. I used ephlebophile I would hate for FARK's pedophile apologist brigade to get on to me for confusing their fine, upstanding group of people with these scumbags.

Look out for the grammar nazis though. The word you're looking for is ephebophile.

BronyMedic: yes. I used ephlebophile I would hate for FARK's pedophile apologist brigade to get on to me for confusing their fine, upstanding group of people with these scumbags.

You could just say "child molesters" and be done with it.

AverageAmericanGuy: She's stuck in a wheelchair. She knows she doesn't have the chance at a normal life. It's why SHE bought the airplane tickets for him.

I'm not condoning a 33 year old guy porking a 14 year old girl, but let's not try to pretend like she is completely innocent here.

A little bit of this. I'm sure she wouldn't have had a hard time looking for a 14 year old boy willing to fark her, but if he was out of town she wouldn't have been able to get him on a plane as easily.
This might have done more harm than good by reinforcing her feelings of being broken and unlovable.

Then again there's also a high probability of the girl getting locked in a basement and eventually dismembered if she's getting into shiat like this, so still a good thing to put a stop to it and arrest the creep.

BronyMedic: AverageAmericanGuy: She's stuck in a wheelchair. She knows she doesn't have the chance at a normal life. It's why SHE bought the airplane tickets for him.

I'm not condoning a 33 year old guy porking a 14 year old girl, but let's not try to pretend like she is completely innocent here.

Kind of blaming the victim here, aren't you?

AAG is a sock puppet and a troll.

Maybe he just didn't shave his face....

/bleh

BronyMedic: redator, at least to me, seems like a much more apt definition of this person.

Yes. And the father caught him and turned him in. This is how the world should work. You watch out for your kids.

Here's the thing, online predators are a very small percentage of the people who hurt children. The overwhelming majority of people who do bad things to kids are family or at least close friends of the family. So it irks me when the FBI spends countless man hours and dollars looking for pedos online and setting up convoluted honey pot stings in chat rooms and shiat like that when they could just as easily have put all that money in other resources and helped a lot more kids. Take those computers and agent hours and give them to child welfare. Instead of baiting the odd tard into going full felony, use those agents to survail possible abusive homes. They're the fedral beaurau of INVESTIGATION. It's all about priorities.

Instead, they do the least amount of work possible to help the least number of children, in potential and actual, cry "We love all children." while hypocritically continuing the war on drugs which has orphaned and killed more kids in the past few decades than most wars that involved the Pentagon. It's freakin' mind blowing when you get down to it.

What they should really do is drop the war on drugs and start the war on misalocation of law enforcement resources on speed traps, pot heads, and whatever Sherrif Joe is up to these days.

Diogenes The Cynic: Think about it...he couldn't afford the ticket to get all rapey with a 14 year old girl. It kinda makes me wish prostitution (of adults) were legalized for people like him.

I don't think legalized prostitution would have helped much in his case. He was clearly willing to break the law to fly to Florida to fark a 14 year old girl, something tells me he wouldn't have given much thought to being caught with a prostitute in his home town.

He's just a perv who gets off on underaged, disabled girls.

/prostitution should be legalized though, just not for the likes of him

It's not like she'd feel it, so he'd have to do something special for her...


Maybe she gives good head.

/window please

doglover: BronyMedic: redator, at least to me, seems like a much more apt definition of this person.

Yes. And the father caught him and turned him in. This is how the world should work. You watch out for your kids.

Here's the thing, online predators are a very small percentage of the people who hurt children. The overwhelming majority of people who do bad things to kids are family or at least close friends of the family. So it irks me when the FBI spends countless man hours and dollars looking for pedos online and setting up convoluted honey pot stings in chat rooms and shiat like that when they could just as easily have put all that money in other resources and helped a lot more kids. Take those computers and agent hours and give them to child welfare. Instead of baiting the odd tard into going full felony, use those agents to survail possible abusive homes. They're the fedral beaurau of INVESTIGATION. It's all about priorities.

Instead, they do the least amount of work possible to help the least number of children, in potential and actual, cry "We love all children." while hypocritically continuing the war on drugs which has orphaned and killed more kids in the past few decades than most wars that involved the Pentagon. It's freakin' mind blowing when you get down to it.

What they should really do is drop the war on drugs and start the war on misalocation of law enforcement resources on speed traps, pot heads, and whatever Sherrif Joe is up to these days.

Despite your being a total git when it comes to religion, I have to say that I pretty much agree with you here.

elguerodiablo: miss diminutive: Diogenes The Cynic: Think about it...he couldn't afford the ticket to get all rapey with a 14 year old girl. It kinda makes me wish prostitution (of adults) were legalized for people like him.

I don't think legalized prostitution would have helped much in his case. He was clearly willing to break the law to fly to Florida to fark a 14 year old girl, something tells me he wouldn't have given much thought to being caught with a prostitute in his home town.

He's just a perv who gets off on underaged, disabled girls.

/prostitution should be legalized though, just not for the likes of him

Why can't he just pay $10 for a girl half way around the world to poop in the sink in front of her webcam like the rest of us civilized adults.

Heh. Pay. That's funny.

gilgigamesh: Ironically, he will soon find himself in the position he intended for his victim: sexually assaulted and unable to walk.

Is she a victim is she is paying for a guy to come fark her? It kinda sounds like she wanted it.

It's not like she told some stranger she was scared because she was home alone, and he said he'd come 'help' her. She knew full well what she was bringing the dude over for.

But seriously molester dude, what did you think was gonna happen? It's not like 14 year old girls have much time alone. She lives with her parents dumb-ass. In a wheelchair...in a cave....with a box of scraps.

K3rmy: elguerodiablo: serial_crusher: BronyMedic: /yes. I used ephlebophile I would hate for FARK's pedophile apologist brigade to get on to me for confusing their fine, upstanding group of people with these scumbags.

Look out for the grammar nazis though. The word you're looking for is ephebophile.

E-feeble-phile- A person with a sexual fetish for boning feeble or disabled minors they met through the internets.

Am I wrong to have read that as "E-weeble-wobble-phile" and laughed?

Well, in the chair, she won't fall down...

Raharu: Despite your being a total git when it comes to religion, I have to say that I pretty much agree with you here.

You'll come around on religion, too.

Atheism is a valid scientific position to hold, but it's also not very helpful when you're trying to do something difficult like stay awake for nine days straight without food and only a mouthful of water on the fifth day. Prayer and meditation, on the other hand, are more than enough to help see the dedicated practitioner through. You shouldn't just throw such peerless mental tools away in your myopic love affair with particle accelerators and space probes just because your initial reaction is skeptical.

Just like you shouldn't be claiming a victory for children when you save a fiction child who never existed from a "predator" that didn't actually predatorize any children while the rest of your department is out there greasing the wheels of the underworld locking up people's dads and moms for tiny amounts of pot and other recreational drugs, almost ensuring those American kids wind up in some kind of abusive foster home or something worse at some point in their needless oddessy though a broken system.

Stand down those narcotics officers and put them on a more useful job assignment and you'll save more families in a year than all the efforts of the past decade. Save the family, save the children. Doglover for President of Earth 2012
"Drugs, for the children. Wait, that sound wrong!"

doglover: So it irks me when the FBI spends countless man hours and dollars looking for pedos online and setting up convoluted honey pot stings in chat rooms and shiat like that when they could just as easily have put all that money in other resources and helped a lot more kids.

The FBI directors are not doing this because it wipes out huge swaths of crime. While you are correct that the likelihood of a kid getting diddled is more likely to come from someone they know rather than some online predator or even a random stranger in the streets, these stings, simply put are not for your approval. These stings are for the approval of the scared, white, suburban soccer mom who spends way too many hours watching movies on Lifetime.

Gotta remember, for years and YEARS now, younger generations have been lead to believe that all strangers are either peddling drugs or want to touch their "naughty places"...and God forbid said stranger is a non-white, because then...whooooo...they gonna rob you too!

This thread has nearly everything, but is begging for Hollywood.

monoski: A girl in wheelchair is out on a dock crying and a jogger runs past and asks what is wrong. She replies I am 14 years old and have never been kissed. He kisses her and runs away. Two weeks later he sees her out there crying again. He asks what is wrong. She replies I am 15 years old now and have never been f*cked. He pushes her wheelchair off the dock into the water and says you are f*cked now.

Ok, I lol'd

Diogenes The Cynic:
No its not. No no, not at all. Are you trying to be as wrong as possible? Do you even know what science is?

It's the interpretation of verifiable, reproducible evidence. Religion is the assumption of truths written anonymously in apocryphal manuals that rely on themselves for proof.

Atheism as science goes something like this: Some people a long time ago totally pinky-swore they saw a god. Some rational person hypothesizes that a god must exist and sets out to prove it with evidence, because that's what science is. The nonexistence of a thing cannot conclusively be proven; if someone asserts that a thing exists he bears the burden of proving its existence. Since the god story relies on things we cannot observe (conclusively detecting the supernatural, correctly identifying and interpreting the intentions of an eternal god-thing, the ability for a mortal who can't even visualize numbers small enough that they can be conveniently written down to somehow understand and articulate the infinite) the only proof is the say-so of the mythology itself, which is not verifiable. Since the god-thing as described in these books cannot be proven by scientific means, science suggests there are no such beings.

If The Man came down here today, calmed the oceans with a look, healed a guy by touching his forehead and turned some smartass into a pillar of salt, you bet your ass I'd be at his feet with the rest of you - but not because I would "believe". I would know. Assuming a god-thing is inifinitely wise and savvy, such a creature would be able to look at the information I have to go on, evaluate the trustworthiness of its source and understand why I wouldn't buy into it.

Atheism may be a valid philosophical position, but science doesn't have the tools to deal with metaphysical truths.

Assuming the existence of metaphyiscal truths is a hell of a leap for someone who hasn't proven that there even is a metaphysical yet. Bring me back a postcard from infinity and we'll talk.

JWideman: You can't prove that invisible pink unicorns do not exist. You can't prove that they aren't very spiritual beings (and they must be, to be both pink and invisible). And you can't prove that they are not pink. You now have no choice but to acknowledge they do exist, and give them the worship they deserve.

HERETIC!!!

The Unicorn is PURPLE!

PURGE THE HERETIC!

JWideman: You can't prove that invisible pink unicorns do not exist. You can't prove that they aren't very spiritual beings (and they must be, to be both pink and invisible). And you can't prove that they are not pink.

Och! How do ye think I became the invisible six-armed unicorn bridge guy?

Raharu: The Unicorn is PURPLE!

BronyMedic: Raharu: JWideman: You can't prove that invisible pink unicorns do not exist. You can't prove that they aren't very spiritual beings (and they must be, to be both pink and invisible). And you can't prove that they are not pink. You now have no choice but to acknowledge they do exist, and give them the worship they deserve.

HERETIC!!!

The Unicorn is PURPLE!

PURGE THE HERETIC!

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Goddamnit.

-sigh-

This is now a pony thread.

Never doubt my power again.

Okay, that guy deserves to be locked up.

1. There are plenty of 18+ cripple chicks who would love to give it up for you if that's your fetish. Heck, there are even organizations that specialize in helping disabled people get dates. Just sign up for one of those.
2. If you wanted a younger one, sorry, but 18 is the age of consent in Florida and Arizona, the best you could do is target a 16 year old in Georgia, but even then I believe the consent requires parental permission.
3. Really, you had to ask her to buy the ticket?

Seriously, even female school teachers have enough sense to keep close to home with their affair.

Fubar: 33? Holy crap that's a hard 33....

That's what drinking a case of Rolling Rock a day does to you.

/33
//Obscure?

HotIgneous Intruder: Or maybe that a creepy dude who flew to Florida to fark a wheelchair-bound 14-year-old is a martyr for my sins?


They have lumber and big nails at Home Depot. There's a simple way to find out.

Waldo Pepper: AverageAmericanGuy: irregardless

irregardless |ˌiriˈgärdlis|
adjective& adverb informal
regardless.
ORIGIN early 20th cent.: probably a blend of irrespective and regardless.
usage: Irregardless is widely heard, perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as irrespective, but should be avoided by careful users of English. Use regardless to mean 'without regard or consideration for' or 'nevertheless'.

Amen.

Definition of IRREGARDLESS
nonstandard: regardless
Usage Discussion of IRREGARDLESS
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

"What the f*ck, guys, it's like Make-A-Wish, I'm making this chick's dream come true. You'd be A-OK with it if she wanted to meet a celebrity. Instead she wants to get boned by an ugly old guy from across the country. Who are you do deny this girl's dreams?"

JWideman: Also, I apologize profusely for inadvertently turning this into a pony thread.

I've learned from a friend that this My Little Pony phenomenon has nothing to do with pedophilia or degenerates in the vast majority of cases, but I can't help but think of what Nancy Grace would think if she stumbled into this thread.

JWideman: Also, I apologize profusely for inadvertently turning this into a pony thread.

It was an atheism thread. I like your version better.

Diogenes The Cynic: Science is the drooling, retarded step-brother to Philosophy.

jgilb: MythDragon: It's not like she'd feel it, so he'd have to do something special for her...
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Maybe she gives good head.

/window please

What movie is that scene from ?

Freddy Got Fingered.

Nappy Imus: its still in the dictionary, so guess what that makes it :D

Errata!

I prefer Fluttershart, the pony with the digestive issues.

Uncle Tractor: JWideman: and you've never seen Passion of the Christ yet?? watch that. and you might LEARN something

You mean it's full of invisible pink unicorns? I did not know this. I've learned something already.

On the topic of minors and unicorns and higher powers; I read some of the Christian texts that weren't included in the bible a couple of days ago. One of them was the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (google it). Apparently, when Jesus was a little kid, he went around killing other kids. Regular little Damien.

Most of the cannonical Gospels were written about 20-60 years after the death of Jesus. That was written about 200 years after the death of Jesus, FYI. That infantcy gospel is not to be confused with the Gospel of Thomas, which is very different. That is basically just a collection of sayings, which neither supports nor refutes Jesus' divinity. It may pre-date the cannonical Gospels. The further from the date of Jesus' death you go, the more mythical the narrative becomes. But, the important thing to also note is that even amongst secular biblical scholars, is that Jesus actually did exist.

/Too reasonable a stance for a religion comment?

BronyMedic: MythDragon: Is she a victim is she is paying for a guy to come fark her? It kinda sounds like she wanted it.

She didn't pay for him to come fark her. She stole a credit card, and stole money to get the guy there.

It's called grooming. The predator conditions and "trains" his or her victim to accept and further their advances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming

Well that explains a lot. See I started a new business. I see all those dog grooming places, and I thought "How come no one does that for kids?" So I started up a service where you could drop off your children, and I'd wash and shampoo them, treat them for fleas, express their anal glands (if needed) and cut their hair into whatever cute design you wanted. When people asked what I did, I told them "I'm a child groomer" Now I know why I got weird stares. They probably thought I was doing something strange.

Diogenes The Cynic:
Look at sociology, and paleontology. They think those are sciences.

When you find hoofprints in prehistoric rock, you think horses, not deities.

Inflatable Rhetoric: JWideman: Inflatable Rhetoric: Diogenes The Cynic: Uncle Tractor: Diogenes The Cynic: Atheism may be a valid philosophical position, but science doesn't have the tools to deal with metaphysical truths.

What "metaphysical truths?"

Is there a soul?
Is this art?
Do I have a mind, or only a brain?

Etc.

Look, I've said it before, and I will say it again. Science is the drooling, retarded step-brother to Philosophy. We (at least, educated people) accept science because "it tends to work." Were it not for the philosophers, the scientists would still be trying to turn lead into gold.

What? Philosophers made the periodic table of elements? And did research on atomic structure?

Which philosopher did that, and how?

The concept of the material universe being composed of atoms comes from Parmenides, from around 500 BCE. I wouldn't agree that science is the "drooling, retarded step-brother", but modern science does have its roots in the early Greek philosophers. Why do you think the Greek alphabet is used so much in science?

The Greek letters are used as symbols. That's all.

I know the origin of the concept of atoms.

But, how did philosophy contribute to the development of the periodic table? Did you see my question?

I'll accept gibberish and avoiding the issue as an admission that philosophers didn't contribute.

You need to read The Baroque Cycle. Historical fiction that explains it very well, if you can slog though Neal Stephenson's prose.

Gramma: This thread has it all. Arizona and Florida, pedos, a teenage, an argument about irregardless, ponies, cripple jokes and science vs religion.

Its like a conversation with my mom.

Heh. I was going to say it's like a conversation with my younger brother.

/He's also a cardiologist.

Gramma: This thread has it all. Arizona and Florida, pedos, a teenage, an argument about irregardless, ponies, cripple jokes and science vs religion.

Its like a conversation with my mom.

GreatGramma?

Inflatable Rhetoric: Ok, so the verification process is not science? It's philosophy? Can you verify that?

Philosophy and science probably weren't as easy to distinguish in the dark ages as they are today, given the way religion shaped our more primitive ancestors. Gregor Mendel (not to be confused with Mendeleev in all this periodic table discussion) was a monk who just happened to discover genetics, every bit a scientist while remaining true to his faith. Linnaeus was a scientist who inspired philosophers, many of whom saw themselves in him.

There's a reason "Arts and Sciences" are stuck together like opp and heimer. The presence of a great thinker in one discipline improves everyone nearby. Great scientists inspire philosophers, great philosophers inspire scientists, and if someone shows up who happens to be both well then humanity gains a level and 1d8+1 smartness points. Can't we just leave it at that?

Flakeloaf: Inflatable Rhetoric: Ok, so the verification process is not science? It's philosophy? Can you verify that?

Philosophy and science probably weren't as easy to distinguish in the dark ages as they are today, given the way religion shaped our more primitive ancestors. Gregor Mendel (not to be confused with Mendeleev in all this periodic table discussion) was a monk who just happened to discover genetics, every bit a scientist while remaining true to his faith. Linnaeus was a scientist who inspired philosophers, many of whom saw themselves in him.

There's a reason "Arts and Sciences" are stuck together like opp and heimer. The presence of a great thinker in one discipline improves everyone nearby. Great scientists inspire philosophers, great philosophers inspire scientists, and if someone shows up who happens to be both well then humanity gains a level and 1d8+1 smartness points. Can't we just leave it at that?

Kind of like Fr Georges Lemaître and the Big Bang theory?

ph0rk: So Mathematics is Philosophy, now?

What do you mean "now" kiddo? Have you ever heard a man named Pythagoras? What exactly do you think his occupation was? It certainly wasn't mathematician, because that never pays well.

Smoky Dragon Dish:
Fr Georges Lemaître

How can I have spent more than thirty years on this rock without ever having heard of this man? I am appalled at my lack of education.

Diogenes The Cynic:

Compare that to a scientist, like Dawkins talking about religion.

Richard Dawkins is a condescending blowhard who seeks nothing more than to replace one brand of ignorant disdain with another. If he is a scientist then I am a vegetable drinking straw.

Flakeloaf: Diogenes The Cynic:

Compare that to a scientist, like Dawkins talking about religion.

Richard Dawkins is a condescending blowhard who seeks nothing more than to replace one brand of ignorant disdain with another. If he is a scientist then I am a vegetable drinking straw.


Who loves you? And who do you love?!!

Flakeloaf: Diogenes The Cynic:

Compare that to a scientist, like Dawkins talking about religion.

Richard Dawkins is a condescending blowhard who seeks nothing more than to replace one brand of ignorant disdain with another. If he is a scientist then I am a vegetable drinking straw.