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2012-07-16 01:33:19 PM  
About time. Fair contract numbers from preliminary reports too.
 
2012-07-16 01:57:45 PM  
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ROLL WAVE
 
2012-07-16 02:50:47 PM  
Hey now they can be the third best team in their division again.

/worst position to overpay: RB
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-07-16 02:54:07 PM  

js34603: Hey now they can be the third best team in their division again.

/worst position to overpay: RB


The Bears were making a Super Bowl run before Cutler and Forte got injured. They were 7-4 or something like that with 4 games against the weak AFC West coming up. Not Cutler + No Forte = Lost 4 games against the worst division in the NFL + Missing the playoffs.
 
2012-07-16 02:58:47 PM  

MBK: js34603: Hey now they can be the third best team in their division again.

/worst position to overpay: RB

The Bears were making a Super Bowl run before Cutler and Forte got injured. They were 7-4 or something like that with 4 games against the weak AFC West coming up. Not Cutler + No Forte = Lost 4 games against the worst division in the NFL + Missing the playoffs.


Super Bowl wut? As a Bears fan, the Bears would have been on a run to make the playoffs and beat out Atlanta for the #6. Now, you can argue that the Bears may have been a better playoff match up against the Giants, but if they beat the G-men, all that does is win another Super Bowl for the Packers, and no one wants that. If not the #6, then the Bears would have gone to NO and get slaughtered in the Dome.
 
2012-07-16 03:01:44 PM  

MBK: js34603: Hey now they can be the third best team in their division again.

/worst position to overpay: RB

The Bears were making a Super Bowl run before Cutler and Forte got injured. They were 7-4 or something like that with 4 games against the weak AFC West coming up. Not Cutler + No Forte = Lost 4 games against the worst division in the NFL + Missing the playoffs.


7-4 is a Super Bowl run? When Green Bay was 11-0 at the time? Ya, no.

With those two healthy the Packers are still better than the Bears and the Lions are just as good. So third in their division, second maybe if the Lions continue to get 12 personal foul penalties a game.
 
2012-07-16 03:02:43 PM  
As a Packer fan, I hope he does not come even close to living up to that contract.
As a sports fan, nope, still hope he sucks it up.
 
2012-07-16 03:11:10 PM  

roc6783: As a Packer fan, I hope he does not come even close to living up to that contract.
As a sports fan, nope, still hope he sucks it up.


Lifelong Vikes fan here and I hate the Bears. BUT I have Forte in a Fantasy keeper league so this is good news for me.
 
2012-07-16 03:18:18 PM  
In the last decade it has ALWAYS been a mistake to re-sign a running back especially after a breakout/record season. RB's seem to have a useful life of 5 years of less these days and the next "great" one is hiding in every draft
 
2012-07-16 03:30:24 PM  
And he'll probably see 50% of the money before being cut.
 
2012-07-16 03:31:56 PM  

Magorn: In the last decade it has ALWAYS been a mistake to re-sign a running back especially after a breakout/record season. RB's seem to have a useful life of 5 years of less these days and the next "great" one is hiding in every draft


Unless you are gambling everything on a Super Bowl run (ala. Denver). Of course, in such a case you probably wouldn't have the cap room for a Forte-ish contract.
 
2012-07-16 03:37:13 PM  

js34603: 7-4 is a Super Bowl run? When Green Bay was 11-0 at the time? Ya, no.


Question: Do you know who won the Super Bowl last year?
 
2012-07-16 03:41:56 PM  
There's only been one team in the last 10 years who have won via having their primary threat be the stud RB.
 
2012-07-16 03:42:05 PM  
I wouldn't say they were on a Super Bowl run, but they sure seamed on their way to the playoffs. (Funny how Detroit fans only want to remember the first game they played last year.) But Forte missed how many games and he was still one of the NFC leaders in yards from scrimmage? I am a happy Bears fan today. He's young and experienced, he produces, and he keeps quiet. There isn't much more I could ask from a player.
 
2012-07-16 03:42:33 PM  

Sapper_Topo: roc6783: As a Packer fan, I hope he does not come even close to living up to that contract.
As a sports fan, nope, still hope he sucks it up.

Lifelong Vikes fan here and I hate the Bears. BUT I have Forte in a Fantasy keeper league so this is good news for me.


I'm looking forward to seeing in the Vikings can be worse than Jacksonville or Indy this year. Miami could be pretty bad too. At any rate, I'll be surprised if the Vikes do better than 4-12.

/Anything is possible.
//Ugliest uniforms in the game next to New England.
 
2012-07-16 03:59:57 PM  

Sapper_Topo: roc6783: As a Packer fan, I hope he does not come even close to living up to that contract.
As a sports fan, nope, still hope he sucks it up.

Lifelong Vikes fan here and I hate the Bears. BUT I have Forte in a Fantasy keeper league so this is good news for me.


I was gonna go there, but it is unlikely I will have a shot at Forte this year (#2 pick in a snake draft that has custom scoring very heavily favored toward QBs. Not sure if I should take Brees or Brady #2, assuming #1 drafter doesn't have an aneurysm, misclick, and not take Rogers).
 
2012-07-16 04:00:30 PM  
I am excited about this years Offense. The D is what is scaring me, they are getting old. I don't know if I can get used to a Bears team with an actual offense and a serviceable defense. It just seems so wrong.
 
2012-07-16 04:02:35 PM  
In other news, 5/$40M for Ray Rice. $17M for year one.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-07-16 04:09:54 PM  

js34603: 7-4 is a Super Bowl run? When Green Bay was 11-0 at the time? Ya, no.


They were playing outstanding defense, their offense was clicking, special teams was always great, etc etc.

As I said, they were on a roll. They were on a 5 game winning streak, and had 5 of their last 6 games against weaker teams (Broncos, Raiders, Chiefs, Seahawks, Vikings). And what is important when going into the playoffs? Momentum. With those wins, they would have the momentum and confidence to make a playoff run.

And a Super Bowl run = playoffs. You don't make the playoffs and be happy. You make a run at the Super Bowl. Anything can happen in the NFL, but they had everything going for them until Cutler and Forte got injured.
 
2012-07-16 05:06:14 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: js34603: 7-4 is a Super Bowl run? When Green Bay was 11-0 at the time? Ya, no.

Question: Do you know who won the Super Bowl last year?


What does that have to do with the Bears being 2nd in their division at the time not qualifying as a Super Bowl run?

There were a lot of teams in second place in their division at some point...guess they were all on Super Bowl runs.
 
2012-07-16 05:09:56 PM  

Ruffian: But Forte missed how many games and he was still one of the NFC leaders in yards from scrimmage?


#4 RB in the NFL in yards from scrimmage per game (rate stat so games missed isn't a big deal) last season. Behind Foster, Fred Jackson and Rice.

Michael Bush was 16th despite splitting time with McFadden in about half the games, so they have a more capable backup this year if Forte happens to get hurt again.
 
2012-07-16 05:10:11 PM  

MBK: js34603: 7-4 is a Super Bowl run? When Green Bay was 11-0 at the time? Ya, no.

They were playing outstanding defense, their offense was clicking, special teams was always great, etc etc.

As I said, they were on a roll. They were on a 5 game winning streak, and had 5 of their last 6 games against weaker teams (Broncos, Raiders, Chiefs, Seahawks, Vikings). And what is important when going into the playoffs? Momentum. With those wins, they would have the momentum and confidence to make a playoff run.

And a Super Bowl run = playoffs. You don't make the playoffs and be happy. You make a run at the Super Bowl. Anything can happen in the NFL, but they had everything going for them until Cutler and Forte got injured.


They weren't in the playoffs, they weren't even winning their division.

Competing for a Wild Card spot doesn't equal a Super Bowl run.

I like the hypothetical momentum you give them after hypothetical wins including one over a team that won a playoff game.

I guess it's good to know that Super Bowl runs are made after 3/4s of the regular season. Lot of teams will be making runs next year I bet.
 
2012-07-16 05:29:42 PM  

GQueue: Ruffian: But Forte missed how many games and he was still one of the NFC leaders in yards from scrimmage?

#4 RB in the NFL in yards from scrimmage per game (rate stat so games missed isn't a big deal) last season. Behind Foster, Fred Jackson and Rice.

Michael Bush was 16th despite splitting time with McFadden in about half the games, so they have a more capable backup this year if Forte happens to get hurt again.


Bush was a definite upgrade from Barber (now retired) and they dumped some other deadweight ex-Cowboys in Williams and Hurd so I have some hope for this season. They were definitely playing well last year until Forte and Cutler went out with injuries, but the aging defense has me worried.
 
2012-07-16 05:38:52 PM  

js34603: I like the hypothetical momentum you give them after hypothetical wins including one over a team that won a playoff game


Of all the games they played without Forte and Cutler, that game against the team that won a playoff game is the one you can most obviously say they would have won. That loss can almost directly be attributed to Marion Barber.
 
2012-07-16 05:40:14 PM  
Chicago was definitely in the hunt and looked like they were going places before their whole season went sideways very, very quickly. I'll say that for them.
 
2012-07-16 06:48:06 PM  
If only there were some historical context for a team's performance with Jay Cutler at starting QB after a 7-4 start...
 
2012-07-16 08:48:06 PM  

robsul82: In other news, 5/$40M for Ray Rice. $17M for year one.


This is the important news. Granted I think the money could be better spent elsewhere but sometimes you just have to pay the man who carries the offense on his back and is the number one reason the defense gets to rest.
 
2012-07-16 08:54:41 PM  
Pay the man his money, he certainly worked hard to earn it. He's the best back Chicago has had in years, and just think what he could have done behind a better O-line. I'm actually looking forward to see how good this year's team will be. They added some offensive weapons, but the defensive backs will be a huge question mark, along with the O-line. Lovie's job is on the line.

BEARS!
 
2012-07-16 09:01:59 PM  
Now they have to pray that last year wasn't the last of Briggs and Urlacher being top end defenders. And that Marshall stays on the meds.

/With Brees, Forte and Bowe as keepers I've been damn near hyperventilating all offseason.
 
2012-07-16 09:46:49 PM  

missiv: Pay the man his money, he certainly worked hard to earn it. He's the best back Chicago has had in years, and just think what he could have done behind a better O-line. I'm actually looking forward to see how good this year's team will be. They added some offensive weapons, but the defensive backs will be a huge question mark, along with the O-line. Lovie's job is on the line.

BEARS!


You are forgetting about the biggest addition of them all, the subtraction of Martz.
 
2012-07-16 10:43:50 PM  

GQueue: js34603: I like the hypothetical momentum you give them after hypothetical wins including one over a team that won a playoff game

Of all the games they played without Forte and Cutler, that game against the team that won a playoff game is the one you can most obviously say they would have won. That loss can almost directly be attributed to Marion Barber.


Ha!! The Bears still always suck!!
 
2012-07-16 10:50:06 PM  

italie: missiv: Pay the man his money, he certainly worked hard to earn it. He's the best back Chicago has had in years, and just think what he could have done behind a better O-line. I'm actually looking forward to see how good this year's team will be. They added some offensive weapons, but the defensive backs will be a huge question mark, along with the O-line. Lovie's job is on the line.

BEARS!

You are forgetting about the biggest addition of them all, the subtraction of Martz.


I haven't forgotten. We will see what Mr. Cutler is made up this season. We know he can dance the 7 step dropped, but, will he finally perfect the 3 step not an interception?

BEARS!
 
2012-07-17 12:15:38 AM  
how is urlacher doin, I remember he got fkd up pretty bad in a game that didnt even matter.
 
2012-07-17 09:40:55 AM  

italie: You are forgetting about the biggest addition of them all, the subtraction of Martz.


Detroit did a lot better when they got rid of Martz. Perfect season better.
 
2012-07-17 02:15:55 PM  

IAmRight: italie: You are forgetting about the biggest addition of them all, the subtraction of Martz.

Detroit did a lot better when they got rid of Martz. Perfect season better.


Apples to oranges.
 
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