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(Boston Herald)   GOP supports THIS idea. Democrats and the President support THIS idea. Small business owners support THIS idea. But the GOP won't approve it because they can't also get OTHER things that they want. Must be a day ending in "Y"   (news.bostonherald.com) divider line 70
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2012-07-16 01:06:27 PM
Reasoned discussion to follow...
 
2012-07-16 01:06:48 PM
You elect children to do a man job, don't expect when they throw a temper tantrum.
 
2012-07-16 01:08:55 PM
When people complain about the GOP not compromising/being obstructionist, this is what they mean jackasses. Can't believe those morons have the sheer amount of intellectual dishonesty to then go and claim Obama is bad for jobs.
 
2012-07-16 01:10:03 PM
Let me guess, they tried to attach Personhood, a federal ban on Shariah, repeal of Obamacare and the CFPB, and revised $0 budgets for the FCC, FDA, EPA, and ATF.
 
2012-07-16 01:11:25 PM
WTF is wrong with Joe Manchin?
 
2012-07-16 01:12:21 PM
If ever there was a time to prove how useless a lot of human beings these GOPers are, Obama needs to propose a 0% tax bracket on the 1%.

They will still block it.
 
2012-07-16 01:12:23 PM
In other words, Congress isn't going to do anything else until next term, and everybody's taxes are going to go up 1 January.

...

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2012-07-16 01:12:37 PM
And to think some people still believe Republicans aren't desperately sabotaging the economy every way they can.
 
2012-07-16 01:12:48 PM
Meh who cares about job creation? We just need to block enough legislation until November and blame Obama.
 
2012-07-16 01:12:50 PM
When are the dems and libs gonna figure out the GOP does not care about the general populace this is about the top of the agenda item; Fartbongo is a one term POTUS!
 
2012-07-16 01:13:01 PM
Never let political leverage go to waste when you could be furthering your ideological agenda
 
2012-07-16 01:13:04 PM

Biff_Steel: WTF is wrong with Joe Manchin?


He understands that Krugmanomics is pure derp?
 
2012-07-16 01:13:08 PM
Gee, I guess there is a reason the numbers go this way, right?

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2012-07-16 01:13:38 PM
One of the greatest things that will never happen would be to make it so any amendments to bills would have to pertain to only the subject of that bill.
 
2012-07-16 01:13:45 PM

kingoomieiii: Let me guess, they tried to attach Personhood, a federal ban on Shariah, repeal of Obamacare and the CFPB, and revised $0 budgets for the FCC, FDA, EPA, and ATF.


Almost. It was yet another extension to the Bush tax cuts for the top 1%.

At least they're consistent. Consistently douchey.
 
2012-07-16 01:14:23 PM

monoski: When are the dems and libs gonna figure out the GOP does not care about the general populace this is about the top of the agenda item; Fartbongo is a one term POTUS!


They really don't have a choice int he matter. There's nothing the democrats can do to force the Republicans to behave reasonably
 
2012-07-16 01:15:11 PM

kingoomieiii: Let me guess, they tried to attach Personhood, a federal ban on Shariah, repeal of Obamacare and the CFPB, and revised $0 budgets for the FCC, FDA, EPA, and ATF.


kingoomieiii: Let me guess, they tried to attach Personhood, a federal ban on Shariah, repeal of Obamacare and the CFPB, and revised $0 budgets for the FCC, FDA, EPA, and ATF.


Nope, they blocked a bill which gave a 10% tax break for hiring new employees and allowed the cost of new equipment to be deducted 100%, up from 50%, because it didn't include enough other tax cuts.

Republican definition of compromise: you get the smallest bit of what you want, I get a whole lot of what I want, and then I kick you square in the nuts because you forgot to offer me a blowjob.
 
2012-07-16 01:15:33 PM

Biff_Steel: WTF is wrong with Joe Manchin?


His constituents are racists and yokels. And I say that having spent my first 23 years in the state and most of my family still live there.
 
2012-07-16 01:16:01 PM

kingoomieiii: Let me guess, they tried to attach Personhood, a federal ban on Shariah, repeal of Obamacare and the CFPB, and revised $0 budgets for the FCC, FDA, EPA, and ATF.


No way. They *love* the ATF right now.

When the "Fast & Furious" stupidity blows over, then they'll go back to defunding them.
 
2012-07-16 01:18:09 PM
A GOP filibuster against a tax break for small businesses that would provide an incentive to hire new employees/raise payrolls as well as a tax break on investments in new equipment.

Further evidence that the GOP is not interested in helping the economy or in creating jobs.
 
2012-07-16 01:22:16 PM
I think it's a about time somebody goes through the Senate Rules and finds some obscure way of preventing a filibuster. Either that, or actually make them filibuster and make fools of them selves.
 
2012-07-16 01:22:45 PM

red5ish: A GOP filibuster against a tax break for small businesses that would provide an incentive to hire new employees/raise payrolls as well as a tax break on investments in new equipment.

Further evidence that the GOP is not interested in helping the economy or in creating jobs.


Not that we needed even more evidence.
 
2012-07-16 01:23:44 PM
Jesus. When does it stop being a personal decision and start being something close to treason? They fight EVERYTHING that Obama tries to pass, and they have for 31/2 years now. It's stopped being a 'Republican Ideals' thing, and has become a childish stupid vendetta that is doing irreparable harm to this country.

Fark every one of these sacks of shiat, I'm done with them completely.
 
2012-07-16 01:23:55 PM
Mitch McConnell needs to be punched in the face. What a worthless cock.
 
2012-07-16 01:24:18 PM
Vote these sons-of-biatches OUT in November.

FFS
 
2012-07-16 01:26:06 PM
I hope there is a purging fire at McConnell's Labor Day party. Ryan, Boehner, Cantor.. all of them. Dead.

My overpriced salad at work the next day will never taste better.
 
2012-07-16 01:27:03 PM
duanegraham.files.wordpress.com

Our number one priority is making Obama a one-term president

/Screw America, we're still working on our number one priority
 
2012-07-16 01:29:04 PM

Here is all you need to know:


The GOP is blocking a 10% tax cut for small businesses that hire more workers because the bill does not include an extension of tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.


THIS is why you should vote Democratic. THIS is the reason we have such an anemic recovery. THESE PEOPLE are the cause of our economic woes. THE GOP is responsible for preventing job creating measures because they will not benefit the obscenely wealthy.

The GOP does not, will not and never did care about the middle class. They care about two things: Money and power. Every American voter has the authority to prevent them from taking more of both from you.
 
2012-07-16 01:30:33 PM

Biff_Steel: WTF is wrong with Joe Manchin?


A WV Democrat would be a Republican anywhere else.
 
2012-07-16 01:31:49 PM

47 is the new 42: I think it's a about time somebody goes through the Senate Rules and finds some obscure way of preventing a filibuster. Either that, or actually make them filibuster and make fools of them selves.


I think that whole "let's just call it a filibuster, because we're going to filibuster, now that you know we're going to filibuster we don't really have to actually filibuster so it's a filibuster, right?" thing is the stupidest thing EVER. The bluff needs to be called. And in todays 24/7 all media all the time cycle, an actual filibuster would open a lot of eyes.
 
2012-07-16 01:34:08 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Biff_Steel: WTF is wrong with Joe Manchin?

His constituents are racists and yokels. And I say that having spent my first 23 years in the state and most of my family still live there.


That may account for some of the idiocy, but more importantly is the continued influence of King Coal. There is no longer any room for reason in West Virginia politics. Although Manchin has pledged not to make a career out of the Senate, any move that he makes is made thinking of what hay John Raese will make of it.
 
2012-07-16 01:35:16 PM
I have actually checked my "Show posts from ignored users" box to see how the trolls on my ignore list can defend this.
 
2012-07-16 01:44:02 PM

hugram: I have actually checked my "Show posts from ignored users" box to see how the trolls on my ignore list can defend this.


If I know who you're talking about, they'll just ignore it and pretend it never happened.
 
2012-07-16 01:46:24 PM
Republicans in the Senate did not necessarily object to the measure, but they protested Thursday after Democrats refused to allow votes on other amendments

Sounds to me like the whole farking lot of them need a farking attitude adjustment.

12 and out farkers. 12 and out.
 
2012-07-16 01:48:19 PM
Can somebody please explain why the Democrats did not amend the Senate rules at the start of the current session to change the filibuster rules?
 
2012-07-16 01:48:32 PM
Republican definition of compromise: you get the smallest bit of what you want, I get a whole lot of what I want, and then I kick you square in the nuts because you forgot to offer me a blowjob.

THIS. SO f*ing THIS.
 
2012-07-16 01:52:00 PM

47 is the new 42: I think it's a about time somebody goes through the Senate Rules and finds some obscure way of preventing a filibuster. Either that, or actually make them filibuster and make fools of them selves.


THIS

What I'm most worried about is that this is it. It's over. For the rest of the year, the GOP won't vote on ANYTHING that doesn't have an extension of the Bush tax cuts. Sooo, might as well make them filibuster all summer long, since they love those tax cuts so much. Not gonna get anything else done.

/not sure the House would passing anything anyway...
 
2012-07-16 01:57:08 PM

threedingers: Can somebody please explain why the Democrats did not amend the Senate rules at the start of the current session to change the filibuster rules?


Because they had no idea that McConnell was going to unleash unholy armageddon upon the legislative body known as Congress? Yes, stupid and nearsighted of them to be sure -- the signs were there -- but I am sure you're not one of those kinds that falsely equates the Dems' stupidity with the sheer evil of the Senate GOPers, are you?
 
2012-07-16 01:58:04 PM

threedingers: Can somebody please explain why the Democrats did not amend the Senate rules at the start of the current session to change the filibuster rules?


Because any attempt to do so would have triggered a fillibuster.

The Democrats would need 82% to override the Republicans (or vice versa) and it's an incredibly effective tool for the minority party, so whoever the minority is won't give it up without a fight.
 
2012-07-16 02:02:57 PM
The Republican Party hates America because a black Democrat is President
 
2012-07-16 02:09:15 PM

coeyagi: threedingers: Can somebody please explain why the Democrats did not amend the Senate rules at the start of the current session to change the filibuster rules?

Because they had no idea that McConnell was going to unleash unholy armageddon upon the legislative body known as Congress? Yes, stupid and nearsighted of them to be sure -- the signs were there -- but I am sure you're not one of those kinds that falsely equates the Dems' stupidity with the sheer evil of the Senate GOPers, are you?


Not at all. I just remember the punditocracy making a big deal about the possibility of rules changes after the 2010 elections and then all of a sudden nothing happened. I was wondering if there was a stated rationale like not wanting to monkey with it for when they were back in the minority or somesuch.

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Because any attempt to do so would have triggered a fillibuster.

The Democrats would need 82% to override the Republicans (or vice versa) and it's an incredibly effective tool for the minority party, so whoever the minority is won't give it up without a fight.


I was under the impression that Senate rules were subject to simple majority votes (not being actual legislation) and hence were not filibusterable (a perfectly cromulent word, BTW). There is a very real possibility I'm completely mistaken, though.
 
2012-07-16 02:18:05 PM

threedingers: I was wondering if there was a stated rationale like not wanting to monkey with it for when they were back in the minority or somesuch.


That's always the rationale. I don't know if it's publicly stated by the leadership, though.
 
2012-07-16 02:18:37 PM
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2012-07-16 02:33:43 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Republicans in the Senate did not necessarily object to the measure, but they protested Thursday after Democrats refused to allow votes on other amendments

Sounds to me like the whole farking lot of them need a farking attitude adjustment.

12 and out farkers. 12 and out.


Or maybe the Democrats in the Senate wanted to just give the measure an up or down vote without weighing it down with things that have nothing to do with it. What's wrong with an up or down vote? Why can't they have an up or down vote?
 
2012-07-16 02:51:53 PM
Marco Rubio was on the Daily Show playing the victim card with this procedure, claiming that as long as the Democrats were in the majority, the only way for Republicans to get a say in the running of government was to stick amendments on things.

That's pretty sobering, that a sitting elected official would believe something like that, and also pretend that Republicans weren't using this procedure to shoot down legislation they didn't like, so that a defense funding bill became "The Military Acquisitions and Kitten Stomping Act of 2012." It's painfully cynical, and it isn't going to go away until legislative reforms happen - things like changing the filibuster rules and ensuring that legislation attached to bills is related to those bills.

Stuff like this USED to be how we recognized impotent, spoiled, whiny demagogues in Congress and voted them out. Now, there's no consequences for this brand of stupidity, so it keeps happening.
 
2012-07-16 02:58:59 PM

kingoomieiii: hugram: I have actually checked my "Show posts from ignored users" box to see how the trolls on my ignore list can defend this.

If I know who you're talking about, they'll just ignore it and pretend it never happened.


I guess I did not have to check that box after all... seeing as not a single troll has made any comments about TFA yet.
 
2012-07-16 03:01:39 PM

threedingers: I was under the impression that Senate rules were subject to simple majority votes (not being actual legislation) and hence were not filibusterable (a perfectly cromulent word, BTW). There is a very real possibility I'm completely mistaken, though.


On the first day of a new Senate rules can be changed with a majority vote. After that it is 2/3rds.
 
2012-07-16 03:06:50 PM

hammettman: I think that whole "let's just call it a filibuster, because we're going to filibuster, now that you know we're going to filibuster we don't really have to actually filibuster so it's a filibuster, right?" thing is the stupidest thing EVER. The bluff needs to be called. And in todays 24/7 all media all the time cycle, an actual filibuster would open a lot of eyes.


The Bernie Sanders filibuster last year or so was one of the most passionate things I've ever seen.

Link to the actual speech if you don't know what I'm talking about Dude went on for 8 and 1/2 hours trying to stop pretty much what the Reps are filibustering for.

/don't try to read it, just couldn't find a quick link to video
//seriously, it's a 124 pages long
 
2012-07-16 03:08:25 PM

hammettman: 47 is the new 42: I think it's a about time somebody goes through the Senate Rules and finds some obscure way of preventing a filibuster. Either that, or actually make them filibuster and make fools of them selves.

I think that whole "let's just call it a filibuster, because we're going to filibuster, now that you know we're going to filibuster we don't really have to actually filibuster so it's a filibuster, right?" thing is the stupidest thing EVER. The bluff needs to be called. And in todays 24/7 all media all the time cycle, an actual filibuster would open a lot of eyes.


What bluff? You do know they don't actually have to stand and recite the dictionary, right? When they say they are filibustering they are filibustering.
 
2012-07-16 03:23:05 PM
Funny how certain FARKers are missing from this thread. Must be in a meeting or something.
 
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