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(SFGate)   San Francisco Supervisors debate plan to get local homeless to stop panhandling by giving them puppies. Local homeless debate whether to use Lea & Perrins or A1   (sfgate.com) divider line 44
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2012-07-16 01:21:12 PM
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2012-07-16 01:22:54 PM
HP sauce is the best. Though, it's usually only found in the imported foods aisle in American supermarkets and thus can be more expensive.
 
2012-07-16 01:23:02 PM
Because having another living being dependent on you for food and shelter will certainly negate your need to beg for money for your own food and shelter. BRILLIANT!
 
2012-07-16 01:26:11 PM
You don't eat an investment. Get the bandana and shades for the dog and he'll bring in spare change. Eat him when he's old!
 
2012-07-16 01:27:03 PM
>Teresa Chagrin, a rep for PETA's cruelty investigations department in Norfolk, Va., called the plan "slapdash" and "ill-conceived."

Oh if ever there were a perfect surname for that job position...
 
2012-07-16 01:27:29 PM
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Success!
 
2012-07-16 01:27:29 PM
I've been seeing the same guy panhandling for months, using his dog as a prop to get money. At first I felt bad but I after this long I just think he's a douche.
 
2012-07-16 01:28:00 PM
For once, I agree with PETA. Ugh, I feel dirty for saying that.
 
2012-07-16 01:28:01 PM
So PETA would rather the dogs get euthanized than perhaps being cared for?

Sounds about right.
 
2012-07-16 01:32:20 PM
Then they'll be ticketing the dog owners when the pooch dumps on a sidewalk, followed by stray dogs roaming the streets (except in China town).
 
2012-07-16 01:32:45 PM
Just what people who can't take care of themselves need; A major responsibility!!!
 
2012-07-16 01:33:15 PM
Was going to post some good recipes for Kagogi but google has apparently been adjusted and none are showing up in the first 10 pages of links. Most of them are on the "It's inhumane" side of the argument. Personally I'm not a fan of eating other carnivores, but I've had it and it's not bad. Not something I'd say, I'm in a mood for kagogi about, but not something I'd turn my nose up at either. Meat is meat and properly cooked just about any of it is edible.
 
2012-07-16 01:33:24 PM
Except nobody is debating, this is PETA's response to a NON-OFFICIAL project, it's a pilot program with 5 dogs that would have been killed off anyway, they are to be "fostered" by these people,meaning that they are monitored and eventually given up for adoption, Bevan Dufty is a twit, and subby is too.

Misleading and inaccurate headline is etc.
 
2012-07-16 01:33:58 PM
Apparently it's a $10k privately funded grant to study how animal care affects the lives of the homeless. I mean, it's better than just putting the animals down, right?

Hard to say what'll happen.
 
2012-07-16 01:34:38 PM
Give the unwanted to the unwanted - sounds like a plan.
 
2012-07-16 01:37:25 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So PETA would rather the dogs get euthanized than perhaps being cared for?


Funny. I would have predicted PETA to endorse euthanizing the homeless and spending what was left on social services for the canine economic refugees.

/I kid!
//Member of the original PETA.org
///People Eating Tasty Animals
 
2012-07-16 01:38:13 PM
I'd heard that a large number of the homeless there already have dogs. I could see where having to take care of the dog could displace some general anxiety in some cases.

In my area, some of the homeless groups bond together around leaders who enforce behavior. This tends to be for the good. These groups lend stability in their homeless communities. Most of the homeless, once they realize that a new homeless person isn't out to cause trouble, will show them around the kitchens, agencies, safe sleeping locations and bathing locations.
 
2012-07-16 01:39:07 PM
Waitaminute, so is this a panhandler thread, a PETA thread or a sauce thread?
rtfa. on a monday...

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2012-07-16 01:42:11 PM
At least now the money will go towards peanut butter instead of booze.
 
2012-07-16 01:45:27 PM
Kagogi already comes with a zesty BBQ sauce. Asking for a bottle of Heinz 57 or Lea & Perrins will probably earn you a confrontation with the chef.
 
2012-07-16 01:45:29 PM

Grapple: Because having another living being dependent on you for food and shelter will certainly negate your need to beg for money for your own food and shelter. BRILLIANT!


THIS!
 
2012-07-16 01:49:46 PM
There's this homeless (I think) guy I often see in the Mission and Castro who carries his cat around on a stroller. The stroller also houses a big 80's style boombox, which is always blaring Metallica, Iron Maiden, etc. I feel bad for that cat.

So this plan all sounds fine to me, as long as the animals don't go deaf from homeless metalheads.
 
2012-07-16 01:50:38 PM
Kagogi, kagogi! Kagogi, a dog I'd like to eat.
 
2012-07-16 01:59:09 PM

Evil Mackerel: Grapple: Because having another living being dependent on you for food and shelter will certainly negate your need to beg for money for your own food and shelter. BRILLIANT!

THIS!


From what I've seen among the population, many avoid paying for shelter, collect food stamps and trade some stamps for cash for booze. Trying to care for a dog may absorb some booze money and keep the person from getting into even more trouble. This might be a good.

There's a girl here with a back story so horrible, that I don't want her to stop drinking. I let her know sobriety is an option, but if she ever expresses interest, would try to get her some long term treatment. She's in her mid 20's and speaks several languages. She's one of the natural leaders I mentioned upthread.

Was talking to a guy a few weeks ago who said, "I'd like to get a regular job, but the money begging is too good."
 
2012-07-16 02:03:54 PM

MrEricSir: There's this homeless (I think) guy I often see in the Mission and Castro who carries his cat around on a stroller. The stroller also houses a big 80's style boombox, which is always blaring Metallica, Iron Maiden, etc. I feel bad for that cat.


That guy sounds like he kicks ass. (older) Metallica rules
 
2012-07-16 02:04:29 PM
Ketchup - the original covering for questionale meat.

/example: great with meat loaf and McDonalds.
 
2012-07-16 02:04:44 PM
I will agree, HP sauce its the best..
 
2012-07-16 02:10:46 PM
If they can get these people into SROs with their pets, I can see it. But it's too random out on the street.
 
2012-07-16 02:15:03 PM
Is this some kind of farking JOKE?

I mean, these guys make more than $50-75 a farkING DAY panhandling... and the city thinks that they'll just stop if they get $50-$75 a week AND the responsibility of being a pet owner?

San Fran. Just when you couldn't get any crazier.
 
2012-07-16 02:15:36 PM
Giving them pets will only decrease the animal's quality of life and INCREASE the panhandling done, as people will be more likely to throw $ at a starving animal (they can't get jobs).
 
2012-07-16 02:20:01 PM
/recalls Steve Martin in "The Jerk" with his dog, Shiathead

An unfed dog will leave, when possible. Duh. PETA is right (unusual occurrence) to oppose any amount of this crap plan.
 
2012-07-16 02:24:06 PM
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"Excuse me, can we have some money? We have a dog."
 
2012-07-16 02:54:03 PM
So SF has outlawed the selling of small animals, dogs and cats as pets to mostly responsible owners but the city wants to give away dogs to people that have no means to care for the animal?

Sounds like some sound hippie logic to me.
 
2012-07-16 03:10:34 PM

Meatybrain: Except nobody is debating, this is PETA's response to a NON-OFFICIAL project, it's a pilot program with 5 dogs that would have been killed off anyway, they are to be "fostered" by these people,meaning that they are monitored and eventually given up for adoption, Bevan Dufty is a twit, and subby is too.

Misleading and inaccurate headline is etc.


This needs to be repeated several times. Heaven forbid people could be bothered to READ an article before commenting on it
 
2012-07-16 03:19:20 PM

tortilla burger: Meatybrain: Except nobody is debating, this is PETA's response to a NON-OFFICIAL project, it's a pilot program with 5 dogs that would have been killed off anyway, they are to be "fostered" by these people,meaning that they are monitored and eventually given up for adoption, Bevan Dufty is a twit, and subby is too.

Misleading and inaccurate headline is etc.

This needs to be repeated several times. Heaven forbid people could be bothered to READ an article before commenting on it


There was a study that found that dogs of homeless people are some of the happiest dogs because they get to be with their owner 24-7 (heard it on the news, can search for a citation if someone wants).

Most homeless who have a dog in their care will give up eating themselves to feed the dog. They take better care of the dog than they care for themselves. I'm sure not all are like that but a good majority are. It may even give them more motivation to try to get off the street.
 
2012-07-16 03:23:21 PM

tortilla burger: Meatybrain: Misleading and inaccurate headline is etc.

This needs to be repeated several times. Heaven forbid people could be bothered to READ an article before commenting on it


If I just knew how to put a picture on here....[welcometofark.jpg]
 
2012-07-16 03:27:52 PM

zepher: So SF has outlawed the selling of small animals, dogs and cats as pets to mostly responsible owners but the city wants to give away dogs to people that have no means to care for the animal?

Sounds like some sound hippie logic to me.


Selling animals supports puppy mills. Puppy mills are basically concentration camps for dogs that produce sickly, inbred dogs.

Giving dogs to the homeless takes a special kind of stupidity though, I must agree.
 
2012-07-16 03:35:52 PM
They should feed the homeless to the dogs, then toss the dogs off the golden gate bridge to feed the sharks.
 
2012-07-16 03:38:22 PM

El Brujo: They should feed the homeless to the dogs, then toss the dogs off the golden gate bridge to feed the sharks.


Is laughing out loud at my desk at this a sign I've been on Fark too long?

/Now, THAT question should be greenlit, don't you think?
 
2012-07-16 03:41:55 PM
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2012-07-16 03:42:17 PM
Dog. Friendly. Good.
 
2012-07-16 03:50:11 PM

mama2tnt: El Brujo: They should feed the homeless to the dogs, then toss the dogs off the golden gate bridge to feed the sharks.

Is laughing out loud at my desk at this a sign I've been on Fark too long?

/Now, THAT question should be greenlit, don't you think?


Agree. On both fronts.
 
2012-07-16 03:59:50 PM
Frank's Red Hot.
"I put that shiat on everything!"



/obvious
 
2012-07-16 04:42:29 PM

shivashakti: HP sauce is the best. Though, it's usually only found in the imported foods aisle in American supermarkets and thus can be more expensive.


I tried a bottle of HP sauce once. I threw it away while cursing.
 
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