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(610 WIOD)   Are there any illegal firearms in your luggage? a) "No" b) "No" c) "Just a couple of bombs and a little dynamite, but it's no big deal"   (610wiod.com) divider line 48
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2012-07-16 01:00:15 PM
What an asshole.
 
2012-07-16 01:04:11 PM
So he's a doctor, but he's stupid? Is that what I'm reading?
 
2012-07-16 01:47:31 PM
C) Nope, no firearms. Just other stuff.
 
2012-07-16 02:16:48 PM
If you're stupid enough to joke about bombs at the airport, you deserve what you get. It isn't like this is a new policy; it has been in place for decades.
 
2012-07-16 02:17:41 PM
...and the proper response to that would be, "Welcome to Texas, sir."
 
2012-07-16 02:17:45 PM
Doctor Boktor?
 
2012-07-16 02:18:09 PM
It's really important that they ask that question, because terrorists aren't allowed to lie. It's like how you can ask a prostitute if they're a cop, and they have to tell the truth.
 
2012-07-16 02:20:00 PM
Here's his first mistake:
The TSA says that Dr. Hany Mossad-Boktor was asked the standard question about having any firearms in his luggage, and he replied, "no, just a couple of bombs and a little dynamite, but it's no big deal."

Foreign sounding name. He should have been Dr. Harvey Smith. Then it wouldn't have been an issue.
 
2012-07-16 02:21:52 PM
If you think it's funny; authority does not.
 
2012-07-16 02:22:33 PM
I don't even know what to say to this
 
2012-07-16 02:24:13 PM
It showed no signs of explosives, but he was charged with falsely reporting an incident, which is a felony.


Stupid? You bet. Felonious? Get real.
 
2012-07-16 02:28:17 PM
Dr. Hany Mossad-Boktor

Dude....DUDE! There's some things you just don't joke about & then there's REALLY some things that YOU IN PARTICULAR just don't joke about!
 
2012-07-16 02:31:34 PM

dittybopper: Doctor Boktor?


THIS

Coffee, keyboard, desk, carpet all ruined
 
2012-07-16 02:33:50 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: It showed no signs of explosives, but he was charged with falsely reporting an incident, which is a felony.

Stupid? You bet. Felonious? Get real.


Not even sure it's actually illegal. Here's the statute:
§ 240.55 Falsely reporting an incident in the second degree.
A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the second
degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to
be false or baseless, he or she:
1. Initiates or circulates a false report or warning of an alleged
occurrence or impending occurrence of a fire, explosion, or the release
of a hazardous substance under circumstances in which it is not unlikely
that public alarm or inconvenience will result;
2. Reports, by word or action, to any official or quasi-official
agency or organization having the function of dealing with emergencies
involving danger to life or property, an alleged occurrence or impending
occurrence of a fire, explosion, or the release of a hazardous substance
which did not in fact occur or does not in fact exist; or
3. Knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to be
false or baseless and under circumstances in which it is likely public
alarm or inconvenience will result, he or she initiates or circulates a
report or warning of an alleged occurrence or an impending occurrence of
a fire, an explosion, or the release of a hazardous substance upon any
private premises.
Falsely reporting an incident in the second degree is a class E
felony.


All three of those require that the person initiates a report or warning of a fire/explosion/release of a hazardous substance that has occurred or is about to occur (i.e. impending). If he never indicated that his alleged bombs were armed, then he hasn't reported that there's an impending explosion.
 
2012-07-16 02:43:41 PM
Carl Spackler, is that you?
 
2012-07-16 02:45:20 PM
In the United States, putting a starter gun in you luggage is reported to be a sure-fire way the avoid your luggage getting lost. Just don't do it on international flights.
 
2012-07-16 02:47:01 PM
Why would you even? Is this man that out of touch with air travel that he thinks it's okay to joke about bombs in your luggage and think the agent is just going to laugh it off?

And he's a doctor! A learned man!

/sigh
 
2012-07-16 02:52:35 PM

ButterMule: Why would you even? Is this man that out of touch with air travel that he thinks it's okay to joke about bombs in your luggage and think the agent is just going to laugh it off?

And he's a doctor! A learned man!

/sigh


Last time I flew commercial was before 9/11, and you didn't joke about it back then either.
 
2012-07-16 02:53:06 PM
So what is the point in asking that question?

What would happen if you took the 5th?
 
2012-07-16 02:55:40 PM

Theaetetus: Sin_City_Superhero: It showed no signs of explosives, but he was charged with falsely reporting an incident, which is a felony.

Stupid? You bet. Felonious? Get real.

Not even sure it's actually illegal. Here's the statute:
§ 240.55 Falsely reporting an incident in the second degree.
A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the second
degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to
be false or baseless, he or she:
1. Initiates or circulates a false report or warning of an alleged
occurrence or impending occurrence of a fire, explosion, or the release
of a hazardous substance under circumstances in which it is not unlikely
that public alarm or inconvenience will result;
2. Reports, by word or action, to any official or quasi-official
agency or organization having the function of dealing with emergencies
involving danger to life or property, an alleged occurrence or impending
occurrence of a fire, explosion, or the release of a hazardous substance
which did not in fact occur or does not in fact exist; or
3. Knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to be
false or baseless and under circumstances in which it is likely public
alarm or inconvenience will result, he or she initiates or circulates a
report or warning of an alleged occurrence or an impending occurrence of
a fire, an explosion, or the release of a hazardous substance upon any
private premises.
Falsely reporting an incident in the second degree is a class E
felony.

All three of those require that the person initiates a report or warning of a fire/explosion/release of a hazardous substance that has occurred or is about to occur (i.e. impending). If he never indicated that his alleged bombs were armed, then he hasn't reported that there's an impending explosion.


I'm guessing it will depend on how much he can afford.

Seems like yelling "fire" in a theater.
 
2012-07-16 03:10:48 PM

cleveoh: Dr. Hany Mossad-Boktor

Dude....DUDE! There's some things you just don't joke about & then there's REALLY some things that YOU IN PARTICULAR just don't joke about!


Motherfarker is lucky they didn't taze him on the spot and wind up shot during an escape attempt en route to county.
 
2012-07-16 03:14:00 PM
To be fair, they were asking about firearms...not bombs
 
2012-07-16 03:20:00 PM
i200.photobucket.com

"That's another thing they don't like at the airport: jokes. You know? Yeah, you can't joke about a bomb! Well why is it just jokes? What about a riddle? How about a limerick? How about a bomb anecdote? You know, no punchline, just a really cute story. Or suppose you intended the remark, not as a joke, but as an ironic musing. Are they prepared to make that distinction? Why, I think NOT."
 
2012-07-16 03:39:19 PM
C. No, just some nitroglycerin. What? What's wrong? Oh, sorry, I'm a doctor. Heart medication. What do you mean, am I trying to cause trouble? How was I to know your detectors won't see it and go off?

Could have had more fun and stayed arguably on the legal side if he had a sense of humour
 
2012-07-16 03:54:38 PM
This case will come down to whether or not a reasonable person would have interpreted his statement as a threat or report of threat. The judge will get to make a statement about using poor judgement in thinking that TSA representatives are reasonable people when it has been repeatedly shown they are not.
 
2012-07-16 04:33:34 PM
i.imgur.com
you eeeediot!!!!!
 
2012-07-16 04:40:38 PM
Thank you TSA, for protecting us from yet another dangerously bad sense of humor.
 
2012-07-16 04:42:12 PM
cdn1.sbnation.com

You will now read this in my voice.

It's no big deal.
 
2012-07-16 05:16:24 PM
"Oh you were joking! Oh, no problem sir, board your flight."

/over intercom "It's ok everyone he was joking! There was no reason to stampede each other in all directions! C'mon you people are too serious. lol"

...
 
2012-07-16 05:33:00 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Seems like yelling "fire" in a theater.


No, it seems morwe like saying "I have a blowtorch" in a theater.
 
2012-07-16 05:35:06 PM
Most doctors are really just good at memorizing things. Intelligence is something different.
 
2012-07-16 05:36:03 PM
So, really, stupid is now felonious?

I thought you had to actually hurt somebody/something, but if it says so, there, in print, and all,,,

/thought suing for butthurt was stupid
//this is better
 
2012-07-16 05:45:40 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: StoPPeRmobile: Seems like yelling "fire" in a theater.

No, it seems morwe like saying "I have a blowtorch" in a theater.


Said calmly and sarcastically to the snot-nosed brat working the ticket booth after he asks you something stupid like whether you have any illegal firearms on you, as if he absurdly believed anyone with them would actually answer truthfully...

Seriously, why do we still ask these stupid questions? Have they ever actually caught anyone who slipped and said, "Uh... Well... Yes, you caught me, I've got a bomb in there!", and who really did and wasn't just joking around?? The fact that they ask such mind-boggling stupid questions in the first place is the problem, and what is provoking people into giving smart-ass responses...
 
2012-07-16 06:14:03 PM

akula: If you're stupid enough to joke about bombs at the airport, you deserve what you get. It isn't like this is a new policy; it has been in place for decades.


Quoth I.

They've had big warning signs in airports warning about this since at least 1972. And that was long before TSA was a joke.
 
2012-07-16 06:17:53 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-16 06:25:47 PM
www.straybaseball.com
 
2012-07-16 06:28:29 PM

RobSeace: The Jami Turman Fan Club: StoPPeRmobile: Seems like yelling "fire" in a theater.

No, it seems morwe like saying "I have a blowtorch" in a theater.

Said calmly and sarcastically to the snot-nosed brat working the ticket booth after he asks you something stupid like whether you have any illegal firearms on you, as if he absurdly believed anyone with them would actually answer truthfully...

Seriously, why do we still ask these stupid questions? Have they ever actually caught anyone who slipped and said, "Uh... Well... Yes, you caught me, I've got a bomb in there!", and who really did and wasn't just joking around?? The fact that they ask such mind-boggling stupid questions in the first place is the problem, and what is provoking people into giving smart-ass responses...


I'm pretty sure they ask this because it gives security an opportunity to read the person. Facial expressions, look in the eyes, glancing away, etc. are read. When the person hears the word "bomb" or "weapons" they can unconsciously slip up and give a tell. You might not catch the stone-faced ones but I bet there are some nervous ones who do get caught. I imagine I might be a little bit nervous if I had an explosive device in my carry-on...
 
2012-07-16 06:34:08 PM

Oneofthesedays: I'm pretty sure they ask this because it gives security an opportunity to read the person. Facial expressions, look in the eyes, glancing away, etc. are read. When the person hears the word "bomb" or "weapons" they can unconsciously slip up and give a tell. You might not catch the stone-faced ones but I bet there are some nervous ones who do get caught. I imagine I might be a little bit nervous if I had an explosive device in my carry-on...


And, if I thought all the minimum wage agents asking this were highly trained deception experts like the guy from "Lie To Me", I might feel it was actually worth something...
 
2012-07-16 06:39:49 PM
Yeah they don't really exude competence...

Aren't TSA employees gov't employees? I mean it is under Homeland Security right? Unless they're contractors they should be making decent dough.
 
2012-07-16 07:50:26 PM
It's all about authority. They want to show you who's boss. They ask you absurd questions, and if you even so much as try to poke fun at them, they will crush you mercilessly.

They want to rub it in your face that they OWN you, and that there's nothing you can do about it. They want your total submission.
 
2012-07-16 08:52:06 PM
images.thecarconnection.com

"Sir, do you have any guns, drugs, knives, hand grenades, bazookas or nuclear missiles in the vehicle?"
 
2012-07-16 09:16:00 PM

Oneofthesedays: RobSeace: The Jami Turman Fan Club: StoPPeRmobile: Seems like yelling "fire" in a theater.

No, it seems morwe like saying "I have a blowtorch" in a theater.

Said calmly and sarcastically to the snot-nosed brat working the ticket booth after he asks you something stupid like whether you have any illegal firearms on you, as if he absurdly believed anyone with them would actually answer truthfully...

Seriously, why do we still ask these stupid questions? Have they ever actually caught anyone who slipped and said, "Uh... Well... Yes, you caught me, I've got a bomb in there!", and who really did and wasn't just joking around?? The fact that they ask such mind-boggling stupid questions in the first place is the problem, and what is provoking people into giving smart-ass responses...

I'm pretty sure they ask this because it gives security an opportunity to read the person. Facial expressions, look in the eyes, glancing away, etc. are read. When the person hears the word "bomb" or "weapons" they can unconsciously slip up and give a tell. You might not catch the stone-faced ones but I bet there are some nervous ones who do get caught. I imagine I might be a little bit nervous if I had an explosive device in my carry-on...


It's because it has nothing to do with TSA. Regulations against making jokes about explosives in your luggage have been on the books since D.B. Cooper hit the silk.
 
2012-07-16 10:48:16 PM
But its checked bags. So whats the problem?
 
2012-07-16 10:48:42 PM
A friend of mine did this at JFK when we returned from Rome pre 911. It still wasn't funny. I thought I was going to be shot for being behind him in line.
 
2012-07-16 11:05:06 PM

stuffy: But its checked bags. So whats the problem?


You're telling me you've never heard of the Lockerbie bombing?
 
2012-07-16 11:21:46 PM

Gyrfalcon: Oneofthesedays: RobSeace: The Jami Turman Fan Club: StoPPeRmobile: Seems like yelling "fire" in a theater.

No, it seems morwe like saying "I have a blowtorch" in a theater.

Said calmly and sarcastically to the snot-nosed brat working the ticket booth after he asks you something stupid like whether you have any illegal firearms on you, as if he absurdly believed anyone with them would actually answer truthfully...

Seriously, why do we still ask these stupid questions? Have they ever actually caught anyone who slipped and said, "Uh... Well... Yes, you caught me, I've got a bomb in there!", and who really did and wasn't just joking around?? The fact that they ask such mind-boggling stupid questions in the first place is the problem, and what is provoking people into giving smart-ass responses...

I'm pretty sure they ask this because it gives security an opportunity to read the person. Facial expressions, look in the eyes, glancing away, etc. are read. When the person hears the word "bomb" or "weapons" they can unconsciously slip up and give a tell. You might not catch the stone-faced ones but I bet there are some nervous ones who do get caught. I imagine I might be a little bit nervous if I had an explosive device in my carry-on...

It's because it has nothing to do with TSA. Regulations against making jokes about explosives in your luggage have been on the books since D.B. Cooper hit the silk.


Ok. My reply was an attempt to answer why they ask everyone these questions. Nothing to do with TSA specifically...
 
2012-07-17 05:12:31 AM

Gyrfalcon: stuffy: But its checked bags. So whats the problem?

You're telling me you've never heard of the Lockerbie bombing?


*whoosh*
wassat?
 
2012-07-17 12:11:55 PM

Gaylord Fister: It's all about authority. They want to show you who's boss. They ask you absurd questions, and if you even so much as try to poke fun at them, they will crush you mercilessly.

They want to rub it in your face that they OWN you, and that there's nothing you can do about it. They want your total submission.


So we have a scene where this high school edumacated and TSA conditioned fool is exercising his authority over a professional godcomplexed Doer of Things.
And you wonder, what could go wrong?
 
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