How's that" every year sets a new record for global temperatures" treating you?

/if I was hannity-ish I'd go with "Global Warming? Nah, it's just 100 in Minnesota today...FACE"

One of these days all the so called "environmentalists" will actually wake up to real man-made environmental problems, of which there are many, and we can actually work on solving them.

I am stupid enough to click on a NRO link. I deserve what I get! It's like catching your parents having sex. You know what the sound is, you don't want to look, but: There it is! Curiosity kills yet another cat.

"he has molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet."

Poor Lieutenant Commander Data, He may immune to nearly all biological diseases and other weaknesses that can affect humans, including climate change, but he can't escape the Mann!

All kidding aside, "could" is the operable word here. It hasn't, so the point is moot, dispite who he may or may not have dittled!

randomjsa: One of these days all the so called "environmentalists" will actually wake up to real man-made environmental problems, of which there are many, and we can actually work on solving them.

If mountains didn't want to be strip mined, then why did God decide to make them out of coal?

Lusebagage: "he has molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet."

Poor Lieutenant Commander Data, He may immune to nearly all biological diseases and other weaknesses that can affect humans, including climate change, but he can't escape the Mann!

All kidding aside, "could" is the operable word here. It hasn't, so the point is moot, dispite who he may or may not have dittled!

But, he's is fully functional and equipped with several techniques...

neversubmit: can't believe this went green, what next stormfront?

Think that's what they're softening us up for.

They'll prolly lead into it with a Twitchy link then maybe a Breitbart one and then BOOM!

/Just a theory.

randomjsa: One of these days all the so called "environmentalists" will actually wake up to real man-made environmental problems, of which there are many, and we can actually work on solving them.

Like:
- "Why aren't more frogs dying?"
- "Acid rain makes great modern art from once habitable trees."
- "My water doesn't taste enough like burning."

And finally..

- "Bury everything we don't like to admit is a problem - you only have to post guard and create signs in multiple languages because the site will be uninhabitable for eons to come!"

This article is retarded even considering the fact that Mann was cleared of all charges of misconduct twice.

ox45tallboy: Lando Lincoln: I bet Hitler is not pleased that Jerry Sandusky has replaced him in the "worst person to be compared to" category.

You're right. He's not.

That guy is just impossible.

YoungSwedishBlonde: If mountains didn't want to be strip mined, then why did God decide to make them out of coal?

We need fossil fuels and no amount of crying about "renewable" and "conservation" is going to change that fact. Development of all energy sources must go forward.

Epoch_Zero: randomjsa: One of these days all the so called "environmentalists" will actually wake up to real man-made environmental problems, of which there are many, and we can actually work on solving them.

Like:
- "Why aren't more frogs dying?"
- "Acid rain makes great modern art from once habitable trees."
- "My water doesn't taste enough like burning."

And finally..

- "Bury everything we don't like to admit is a problem - you only have to post guard and create signs in multiple languages because the site will be uninhabitable for eons to come!"

Acidification of oceans is something I've become interested in lately when it comes to environmental causes.

randomjsa: Acidification of oceans is something I've become interested in lately when it comes to environmental causes.

Trying to find a way to make it quicker and more profitable?

It's definitely going to be interesting in the Sandusky victim civil suits how PSU is going to claim that it is a state institution claiming Sovereign Immunity after it claimed it was private institution and exempt for FOIA laws to protect Mann.

You can't spell "moron" without "NRO".

randomjsa: One of these days all the so called "environmentalists" will actually wake up to real man-made environmental problems, of which there are many, and we can actually work on solving them.

What's funny is, we are actually tackling these other man-made environmental problems

But getting anything done takes money. I'd be happy with companies that pollute paying some fees that go towards rehabilitating these sites, a sort of realizing of externalities, but for some reason, they don't want to pay for the problems their pollution creates.

I got rained on again when passing underneath the steam plume from an MDF board factory. It smells of Doug Fir and hydraulic fluid.

Freeper Friday is having a hell of a hangover.

cubic_spleen: Why does Fark allow links to some sites which promote child molestation, such as the National Review Online, but don't allow links to others; for instance, NAMBLA? It gets confusing. I wish the mods were more consistent.

If NAMBLA would just get with the times and start posting incoherent screeds about the evils of Libs I'm sure they would.

platedlizard: cubic_spleen: Why does Fark allow links to some sites which promote child molestation, such as the National Review Online, but don't allow links to others; for instance, NAMBLA? It gets confusing. I wish the mods were more consistent.

If NAMBLA would just get with the times and start posting incoherent screeds about the evils of Libs I'm sure they would.

That would explain conservative support of the Catholic League.

whidbey: The only "scandal" I'm aware of here is that a sh*tsheet like the NRO still gets to publish its right-leaning dreck and make money off it.

I will fight to the death to protect their right to do it.

/sometimes accidents happen in battle
//it's so confusing, and NRO surprised me

WelldeadLink: TabASlotB:
If by "thoroughly debunked" you mean "Since 1999, there have been many independent reconstructions of past temperatures, using a variety of proxy data and a number of different methodologies. All find the same result - that the last few decades are the hottest in the last 500 to 2000 years (depending on how far back the reconstruction goes)" then, yeah.

Yes, all find the same result, except those that don't. Those that find the same result tend to be those which were done by Mann and his coworkers.

For a good cry, look up "upside down Tjilander", where Mann processes data which indicates cooling so it indicates warming. Or just try It's Saturday Night Live

A "good cry"? I'm quite confident you're not a climate scientist. I'm not, but I know my way around research...
When Mann et al. ran their models with and without the Tiljander set, this was the result:

It's not as big a deal as you might want to think it it...Leaving out the proxies with identified concerns minimally altered the results. Mann provides some further explanations at his site, too. You can find links to the scientific literature there.

Mann and other scientists are human and can fall prey to mistakes and biases; peer review is an imperfect method of controlling these issues. The extra-peer review from much of the climate change skeptic/denial blogosphere can at times provide valid critical analysis. The signal-to-noise ratio, however, is generally disappointing. There's a reason that climate scientists are near unanimous in accepting anthropogenic climate change: the data from disparate fields and wholly independent research groups reliably trend towards such an effect. Errors, real or perceived, in a given data analysis won't crumble that foundation.

This is the Jerry Sandusky of analogies, except that instead of molesting children, he's just retarded.

ox45tallboy: TabASlotB: A "good cry"? I'm quite confident you're not a climate scientist. I'm not, but I know my way around research...
When Mann et al. ran their models with and without the Tiljander set, this was the result:

www.meteo.psu.edu

I'm going to go with "With 7 Proxies."

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beat me to it.

The liberal warmer butt hurt in this thread is epic.

/Sorry, wrong choice of words

Epoch_Zero: ox45tallboy: TabASlotB: A "good cry"? I'm quite confident you're not a climate scientist. I'm not, but I know my way around research...
When Mann et al. ran their models with and without the Tiljander set, this was the result:

www.meteo.psu.edu

I'm going to go with "With 7 Proxies."

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beat me to it.

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Heh. Set myself up for that one...

MANN!! *shakes tiny fist*

Bloody William: WTF Indeed: Lando Lincoln: I bet Hitler is not pleased that Jerry Sandusky has replaced him in the "worst person to be compared to" category.

Please, Jerry Sandusky did nothing compared to what Joe Paterno did.

Well... the molestation's kind of worse, objectively. But both were farking scumbags and PSU and State College were wrong to worship them fanatically to the point that they looked the other way.

You know, I used to live in State College.

The sort of things you are saying are hurtful to all the people living there. It's this sort of dialogue that could eventually run the town into the ground and turn it into the world's largest parking lot.

So to sum it all up,

Confabulat: Hitler is like the Sandusky of dictators.

Don't be the Mussolini of metaphors, Attila.

palelizard: Confabulat: Hitler is like the Sandusky of dictators.

Don't be the Mussolini of metaphors, Attila.

Atilla? He's more like a Mao, the Air Jordan of tyrants.

A site focusing on climate change with actual science.

Enjoy. It'll make you less retarded.

Epoch_Zero: palelizard: Confabulat: Hitler is like the Sandusky of dictators.

Don't be the Mussolini of metaphors, Attila.

Atilla? He's more like a Mao, the Air Jordan of tyrants.

Air Jordans, the Breaking Bad of shoes.

That is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen put to paper. What a tool.

A Dark Evil Omen: Epoch_Zero: palelizard: Confabulat: Hitler is like the Sandusky of dictators.

Don't be the Mussolini of metaphors, Attila.

Atilla? He's more like a Mao, the Air Jordan of tyrants.

Air Jordans, the Breaking Bad of shoes.

Wasn't Breaking Bad the Game of Thrones of books?

Did this shiat just compare a scientist who dares to do work he doesn't agree with with a child molester? I really hope he comes to regret this, that's a pretty foul slur.

Rand Simberg really is the Jerry Sandusky of bloggers, except instead of raping children he rapes metaphors.