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(The New York Times)   Series creator Vince Gilligan challenges "Mythbusters" to disprove that his crazy magnetic truck from "Breaking Bad" might really work in real life   (nytimes.com) divider line 99
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2012-07-16 11:33:59 AM  
I didn't remember covering magnets in engineering school (I wasn't EE), so I went back and looked up some of the equations to see if there is an easy way to tell if this would work or not. Measuring the force of an electromagnet seems straightforward enough, but translating that into whether or not it would erase a hard drive from 40 feet gets difficult.

It sounds like a fun project for them - they could rig up the same system and see if it works. Otherwise, maybe some fark braniacs can help with the math.
 
2012-07-16 12:08:56 PM  
I predict busted. For one the 3.5 magnet would break the axle on the truck they used.


It would still be a fun episode.
 
2012-07-16 12:12:00 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-07-16 12:16:45 PM  
i1230.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-16 12:21:14 PM  
I remember using a degausser to erase reel to reel tape back in the day like he talked about. Get off my lawn!!!!
 
2012-07-16 12:22:15 PM  
the only myth i want to see them bust is:

if you go black, is there really no going back?
 
2012-07-16 12:25:09 PM  
I'd like to see them test if "because I say so" really does ensure that no evidence exists that could be used to trace the vehicle back to Walt.
 
2012-07-16 12:36:37 PM  
STILL NOT DONE WITH SEASON 4 (one epi left!) STOP RUINING IT FOR ME.
 
2012-07-16 12:40:06 PM  

mekkab: STILL NOT DONE WITH SEASON 4 (one epi left!) STOP RUINING IT FOR ME.


Or even better. Stay out of BB threads until you find the time to watch that one episode.

/Snape kills Gus Frings
 
2012-07-16 12:40:31 PM  
I'm still in season three. So far I know what happens to Gus Kring because stupid motherfarkers have posted the picture of him and now I know there is a magnetic truck. What's next? Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?
 
2012-07-16 12:41:33 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I'm still in season three. So far I know what happens to Gus Kring because stupid motherfarkers have posted the picture of him and now I know there is a magnetic truck. What's next? Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?


Marie hasn't shown up in season 5 yet.

IS SHE STILL WEARING PURPLE?
 
2012-07-16 12:42:17 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: the only myth i want to see them bust is:

if you go black, is there really no going back deaf?


If you get my drift.
 
2012-07-16 12:42:29 PM  

mekkab: STILL NOT DONE WITH SEASON 4 (one epi left!) STOP RUINING IT FOR ME.


I've never seen an episode, but this article intrigues me. I may have to give it a shot.
 
2012-07-16 12:46:19 PM  
I think it didn't work and that laptop's going to show up again.

"Because I say so" seems like something that will bite him in the ass. Maybe.
 
2012-07-16 12:47:10 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: the only myth i want to see them bust is:

if you go black, is there really no going back?


We get it, the President is black.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:06 PM  

Rye_: I think it didn't work and that laptop's going to show up again.

"Because I say so" seems like something that will bite him in the ass. Maybe.


I think the Cayman bank account number on the picture, which was only exposed as evidence because of his magnet idea, will probably come back to bite him in the ass faster. Once the feds get on those bank accounts the cartel is going to come looking for whoever ruined their money parade.

But I DO like the idea that the writers left the option open that the magnet didn't work at all.
 
2012-07-16 12:50:15 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?


SPOILER ALERT:

Walt Jr. does not, I repeat, does NOT eat breakfast in the season opener. Walt Sr., however, has a pretty epic flash-forward involving some delicious-looking bacon and eggs.
 
2012-07-16 12:56:17 PM  

Confabulat: AdolfOliverPanties: Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?

SPOILER ALERT:

Walt Jr. does not, I repeat, does NOT eat breakfast in the season opener. Walt Sr., however, has a pretty epic flash-forward involving some delicious-looking bacon and eggs.


Which he didn't even eat.

I bet he only went into Denny's and ordered breakfast out of some ritual in honor of Walt Jr being killed. Every day he must find a large breakfast and leave it untouched for the spirit of Jr. That's what we're working towards. Jr's the first to get it as the cartel closes in.
 
2012-07-16 12:56:39 PM  

Confabulat: AdolfOliverPanties: Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?

SPOILER ALERT:

Walt Jr. does not, I repeat, does NOT eat breakfast in the season opener. Walt Sr., however, has a pretty epic flash-forward involving some delicious-looking bacon and eggs.


I bet it's pancakes in episode 3... just like for his birthday.

/saw that episode last night... only reason I can tell you that.
 
2012-07-16 01:01:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: Confabulat: AdolfOliverPanties: Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?

SPOILER ALERT:

Walt Jr. does not, I repeat, does NOT eat breakfast in the season opener. Walt Sr., however, has a pretty epic flash-forward involving some delicious-looking bacon and eggs.

Which he didn't even eat.

I bet he only went into Denny's and ordered breakfast out of some ritual in honor of Walt Jr being killed. Every day he must find a large breakfast and leave it untouched for the spirit of Jr. That's what we're working towards. Jr's the first to get it as the cartel closes in.


Wow you might be right. That would be a thing.
 
2012-07-16 01:02:05 PM  
What I will say about this show is that most people think Walter White is a real bad ass. Truth be told, he is a farking horrible person, a truly reprehensible human being. It is hard to root for a guy who has done the things he has done so far as I have seen halfway through season three.

SPOILER: What he did, or actually didn't do to Jane was farking wrong. And the bit with the tequila and Walter Jr by the pool was farking cruel.

The guy's a dick.

I still watch.
 
2012-07-16 01:02:34 PM  
1/r^2

Or

Sufficient emp power to kill nearby organics

ie - busted
 
2012-07-16 01:05:11 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: It is hard to root for a guy who has done the things he has done so far as I have seen halfway through season three


I'm not sure anyone can really root for him anymore. If I had any criticism about the season opener it was that they made Walt TOO evil. It's like the chemistry teacher guy is gone entirely now. You could almost see Skyler's skin crawl when he hugged her.
 
2012-07-16 01:08:29 PM  
Thanks for the farking spoilers.
 
2012-07-16 01:09:10 PM  
It works...

i10.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-16 01:17:13 PM  

lordaction: Thanks for the farking spoilers.


If you're talking about that part about Walt Jr. being killed, that's speculation, not spoiler. All we know is a much hairier Walt Sr. will one day buy a wicked machine gun at a Denny's.
 
2012-07-16 01:18:08 PM  
Bryan Cranston is one of the best working actors today. This is a guy who played Maclom's dad on Malcom in the Middle and the dentist on Seinfeld - talk about range!!! He kills it on this show. You truly can't even root for him any more because he does such a great job at being completely evil now.
 
2012-07-16 01:18:35 PM  
Dennis Quaid used a magnet to ruin a video tape in a police evidence room in The Big Easy (1986).

Step 1- Throw heavy magnet through shop window as an act of vandalism

Step 2- Bribe evidence room cop to place magnet next to incriminating video tape

Step3- Profit
 
2012-07-16 01:34:34 PM  
I'm no expert and I haven't done the math (implying that I even remember how, ha!) but it seems to me that you would need a prohibitively powerful magnetic field. The inverse square law applies, and a field that can erase a drive at 40 feet could probably do some nasty things to a human body at two or three feet.
 
2012-07-16 01:35:26 PM  
I guffawed when the van tipped over.
 
2012-07-16 01:36:15 PM  
The best part of last night's episode was Jesse's reaction to the initial magnet test that they did with the laptop.

/Yeah biatch!!!
 
2012-07-16 01:37:31 PM  

phimuskapsi: It works...

[i10.photobucket.com image 400x400]


Is he now Gordon Freeman?
 
2012-07-16 01:38:24 PM  

Lsherm: Rye_: I think it didn't work and that laptop's going to show up again.

"Because I say so" seems like something that will bite him in the ass. Maybe.

I think the Cayman bank account number on the picture, which was only exposed as evidence because of his magnet idea, will probably come back to bite him in the ass faster. Once the feds get on those bank accounts the cartel is going to come looking for whoever ruined their money parade.

But I DO like the idea that the writers left the option open that the magnet didn't work at all.


That one quick shot of the Bank of Cayman paper ... that was terrific. They didn't dwell on it, and if you looked away (at your laptop or something), you'd miss it. I love stuff like that.

God, I love BB.

And if you're in this thread and you haven't caught up with the episodes, STFU and GTFO.
 
2012-07-16 01:40:16 PM  

NeoCortex42: Confabulat: AdolfOliverPanties: Gonna tell me what Walter Jr is having for breakfast in S5 Ep1?

SPOILER ALERT:

Walt Jr. does not, I repeat, does NOT eat breakfast in the season opener. Walt Sr., however, has a pretty epic flash-forward involving some delicious-looking bacon and eggs.

Which he didn't even eat.

I bet he only went into Denny's and ordered breakfast out of some ritual in honor of Walt Jr being killed. Every day he must find a large breakfast and leave it untouched for the spirit of Jr. That's what we're working towards. Jr's the first to get it as the cartel closes in.


It was "Donny's." Did you see the sign on the front of the restaurant when he walked out to the car? Denny's was next door. Kinda funny how they did that. He went to the discount version of Denny's, then left a $100 tip.
 
2012-07-16 01:42:22 PM  
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Andrew Wiggin: the only myth i want to see them bust is:

if you go black, is there really no going back?


Yes. The proof is in the Pudding.
 
2012-07-16 01:42:55 PM  

spudvol: Dennis Quaid used a magnet to ruin a video tape in a police evidence room in The Big Easy (1986).

Step 1- Throw heavy magnet through shop window as an act of vandalism

Step 2- Bribe evidence room cop to place magnet next to incriminating video tape

Step3- Profit


I'm glad someone remembered that. It was driving me nuts. I could remember the scene, but not the movie.
 
2012-07-16 01:46:20 PM  

Confabulat: lordaction: Thanks for the farking spoilers.

If you're talking about that part about Walt Jr. being killed, that's speculation, not spoiler. All we know is a much hairier Walt Sr. will one day buy a wicked machine gun at a Denny's.


Not just any wicked machine gun, a freakin' M60.
 
2012-07-16 01:56:29 PM  

Supes: Confabulat: lordaction: Thanks for the farking spoilers.

If you're talking about that part about Walt Jr. being killed, that's speculation, not spoiler. All we know is a much hairier Walt Sr. will one day buy a wicked machine gun at a Denny's.

Not just any wicked machine gun, a freakin' M60.


after writing "52" with his bacon... clearly, Walter White is more upset about the D.C. Comics reboot than we were led to believe.
 
2012-07-16 02:05:52 PM  

lordaction: Thanks for the farking spoilers.


You probably shouldn't click on a thread about something that you don't want spoilers to.

The mere existence of e "magnetic truck" in the headline isn't really spoiling anything.
 
2012-07-16 02:20:57 PM  
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a HERF or EM device like a flux compression generator (basically a poor man's EMP). They're technologies from the mid 70s, so it should be pretty easy for a couple of scientists to build, and wouldn't require a ridiculous plot about some monster magnet. Bonus: the cop station may need to replace...a few things.
 
2012-07-16 02:22:40 PM  
"Hi guys. I'm not up to date on the show you're talking about, and since the headline is about something I clearly haven't watched yet, I clicked on it and the comments so I could come in here and biatch about you spoiling everything for me. Also, my brain is the size of a peanut. Next thing you know you're going to ruin Star Wars for me, too. Some of us don't have time to watch everything immediately, you know."
 
2012-07-16 02:23:37 PM  

Somaticasual: Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a HERF or EM device like a flux compression generator (basically a poor man's EMP). They're technologies from the mid 70s, so it should be pretty easy for a couple of scientists to build, and wouldn't require a ridiculous plot about some monster magnet. Bonus: the cop station may need to replace...a few things.


I was hoping for a huge EMP, but I think that might be technically harder to pull off than the magnet without killing people.

/thought the cop sitting outside the room was going to take a laptop through the skull
 
2012-07-16 02:23:40 PM  
Goddammit so much. Now when I watch the episode I'll just be "waiting for the farking truck" instead of being immersed in the story.
 
2012-07-16 02:27:34 PM  

Somaticasual: flux compression generator


abduzeedo.com
 
2012-07-16 02:38:58 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: What I will say about this show is that most people think Walter White is a real bad ass. Truth be told, he is a farking horrible person, a truly reprehensible human being. It is hard to root for a guy who has done the things he has done so far as I have seen halfway through season three.

SPOILER: What he did, or actually didn't do to Jane was farking wrong. And the bit with the tequila and Walter Jr by the pool was farking cruel.

The guy's a dick.

I still watch.




I agree, but Jane brought all that upon herself.

Mike is the real badass.
 
2012-07-16 02:39:24 PM  

Weisenheimer: Goddammit so much. Now when I watch the episode I'll just be "waiting for the farking truck" instead of being immersed in the story.


It's your fault and only your fault for reading comments on an already-aired episode of a popular TV show.
 
2012-07-16 02:40:40 PM  

Weisenheimer: Goddammit so much. Now when I watch the episode I'll just be "waiting for the farking truck" instead of being immersed in the story.


I can't tell if you're serious or not.

If you are, none of this is a surprise. The whole story is about the magnets and the truck. Nothing is being ruined for you.
 
2012-07-16 02:43:51 PM  
He doesn't like to be called Gilligan.
 
2012-07-16 02:49:54 PM  
I didn't read the comments, just the headline, which started out with "Mythbusters" and not "On last night's Breaking Bad..."
 
2012-07-16 03:04:43 PM  

Weisenheimer: I didn't read the comments, just the headline, which started out with "Mythbusters" and not "On last night's Breaking Bad..."


And absolutely nothing was spoiled for you. The "crazy magnetic truck" isn't some sort of giant plot twist, reveal, or anything. Knowing about its existence will do absolutely nothing to prevent you from "being immersed in the story."

Walt Jr. is also in the episode. Knowing this is also not a spoiler.

SPOILER: He *doesn't* eat breakfast in this episode!
 
2012-07-16 03:33:28 PM  

there4igraham: He doesn't like to be called Gilligan.


Gilligan killed the Skipper! I mean Gilligan killed the stripper!

/Buster is still looking for more juice.
 
2012-07-16 03:38:47 PM  

FitzShivering: "Hi guys. I'm not up to date on the show you're talking about, and since the headline is about something I clearly haven't watched yet, I clicked on it and the comments so I could come in here and biatch about you spoiling everything for me. Also, my brain is the size of a peanut. Next thing you know you're going to ruin Star Wars for me, too. Some of us don't have time to watch everything immediately, you know."


THIS

Hey morons don't come into a thread about a show and not expect people to talk about it. Go watch it and come back when you are done. Stop blaming us because you are to stupid to realize what is going on.
 
2012-07-16 04:15:01 PM  
They haven't revealed if it worked. In the test it knocked out the screen and sent the laptop flying, but the hard drive could still be okay. You need the geek squad to search for porn on it to be sure.
 
2012-07-16 04:24:44 PM  
No, this could not happen. They are right, the power supplies you would need and the current draw would be massive, and so would the magnet, it would be far to large to fit into a truck. Your best bet would be if it was a superconducting magnet as they can hit higher fields, but then you get into ramp times and the cryogenic system needs and where to actually get the magnet, because even in TV land they aren't just lying around, and by that point it would be easier to build a missile and fly it into the station to take care of the evidence.
 
2012-07-16 04:30:07 PM  

The Homer Tax: Weisenheimer: I didn't read the comments, just the headline, which started out with "Mythbusters" and not "On last night's Breaking Bad..."

And absolutely nothing was spoiled for you. The "crazy magnetic truck" isn't some sort of giant plot twist, reveal, or anything. Knowing about its existence will do absolutely nothing to prevent you from "being immersed in the story."

Walt Jr. is also in the episode. Knowing this is also not a spoiler.

SPOILER: He *doesn't* eat breakfast in this episode!


Wait until he finds out Ted isn't dead. That is going to piss him off.
 
2012-07-16 04:45:56 PM  

MadAzza: Lsherm: Rye_: I think it didn't work and that laptop's going to show up again.

"Because I say so" seems like something that will bite him in the ass. Maybe.

I think the Cayman bank account number on the picture, which was only exposed as evidence because of his magnet idea, will probably come back to bite him in the ass faster. Once the feds get on those bank accounts the cartel is going to come looking for whoever ruined their money parade.

But I DO like the idea that the writers left the option open that the magnet didn't work at all.

That one quick shot of the Bank of Cayman paper ... that was terrific. They didn't dwell on it, and if you looked away (at your laptop or something), you'd miss it. I love stuff like that.



basically, we have them attempting to wipe a laptop they don't even know for certain has incriminating evidence (just because the video streams to it, doesn't mean it stores the video...as cautious and collected as Gustavo was...I have a hard time seeing him storing months and months worth of damning video footage on a laptop clearly belonging to himself) and as a result uncover a hidden account number for the investigators... which is probably how they will link to Walt , and Jesse... by following the money...
though frankly... the most they can do is bust them for income tax evasion and money laundering...right now, their is no evidence they ever cooked anything remotely like meth.
 
2012-07-16 04:55:21 PM  
blog.bullz-eye.com
Of all the shiat done on this show, and all the other terrible things done by TV's worst villains, the most unrepentantly evil, petty, non-rational, indefensible thing done was sticking the car wash owner's very first dollar into the vending machine. That's was the most dickish thing I've ever seen.
 
2012-07-16 05:27:38 PM  
They can come up with this magnet contraption (of dubious efficacy) but could not come up with anything to but through 2 feet of concrete and introduce thermite - or magnet? 2ft of concrete laced with re-bar - no way that's going to affect the strength of the field.

Besides, erase the laptop, fine. Then the cops make one call to DHS and everything that ever went through that laptop is theirs.
 
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2012-07-16 05:37:16 PM  

Somaticasual: Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a HERF or EM device like a flux compression generator (basically a poor man's EMP). They're technologies from the mid 70s, so it should be pretty easy for a couple of scientists to build, and wouldn't require a ridiculous plot about some monster magnet. Bonus: the cop station may need to replace...a few things.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-16 05:41:20 PM  
Since Saul knows about how the kid got poisoned, what are the odds that he eventually spills the beans to Jesse? We all know Walt is only going to go further and further over the edge. Eventually, all those around him will realize he's just too dangerous (as Skyler and Mike are now realizing). At this point, I can imagine Saul filling in Jesse about what happened to get him on their side against Walt.
 
2012-07-16 05:48:19 PM  
Walt Jr. ... more than meets the eye.


/Walt Jr. ... robot in disguise!
 
2012-07-16 05:50:19 PM  

NeoCortex42: Since Saul knows about how the kid got poisoned, what are the odds that he eventually spills the beans to Jesse? We all know Walt is only going to go further and further over the edge. Eventually, all those around him will realize he's just too dangerous (as Skyler and Mike are now realizing). At this point, I can imagine Saul filling in Jesse about what happened to get him on their side against Walt.


This!!

Saul didn't have any problem mentioning other "client" (Skylar) information to Walt. What's keeping him from being more open with Jessie?
 
2012-07-16 06:04:21 PM  
We're discussing a show in which a chemistry teacher single handedly wiped out an entire cartel by himself along with the boss of the entire New Mexico meth trade and people are talking about how unrealistic the magnet angle was. Hint: this show was never rooted in reality and it's not supposed to be - it's still the most entertaining show to come out and years. Learn to suspend disbelief when you watch TV.
 
2012-07-16 06:06:20 PM  
*in years. Lit.
 
2012-07-16 06:08:17 PM  

SkippinWork: NeoCortex42: Since Saul knows about how the kid got poisoned, what are the odds that he eventually spills the beans to Jesse? We all know Walt is only going to go further and further over the edge. Eventually, all those around him will realize he's just too dangerous (as Skyler and Mike are now realizing). At this point, I can imagine Saul filling in Jesse about what happened to get him on their side against Walt.

This!!

Saul didn't have any problem mentioning other "client" (Skylar) information to Walt. What's keeping him from being more open with Jessie?


Well, at this exact point, I'd say a healthy fear of Walt. Also, Saul was kind of complicit in hiding the poisoning, so he has a good reason to keep silent.
 
2012-07-16 06:15:02 PM  

Trocadero: [blog.bullz-eye.com image 477x317]
Of all the shiat done on this show, and all the other terrible things done by TV's worst villains, the most unrepentantly evil, petty, non-rational, indefensible thing done was sticking the car wash owner's very first dollar into the vending machine. That's was the most dickish thing I've ever seen.


This! It was especially awful given the lightheartedness of Walt's season 1 interactions with him. I used to laugh audibly at "fark you AND your eyebrows!"
Now I feel like an absolute monster for cheering on Walt in that scene.
 
2012-07-16 06:22:16 PM  

keepitcherry: We're discussing a show in which a chemistry teacher single handedly wiped out an entire cartel by himself along with the boss of the entire New Mexico meth trade and people are talking about how unrealistic the magnet angle was. Hint: this show was never rooted in reality and it's not supposed to be - it's still the most entertaining show to come out and years. Learn to suspend disbelief when you watch TV.


FTFY... Walt didn't wipe out the Cartel... Gus and Mike poisoned them... unless you count Tuco and the Twins...Hank killed them in self defense, and Hector dinged himself into oblivion taking Gus and Tyreese with him (though Walt set it up, and built the IED).
Walt personally killed Crazy 8, his cousin, the 2 street level gang banger cappos, and the 2 bagmen in the super lab....so far. He did somehow poison the kid, and watch Jane aspirate on her own vomit, which led to the couple hundred people killed in the airline disaster...but that's not the same thing.
 
2012-07-16 06:30:07 PM  

MadAzza: I love stuff like that.


Even better were the aviation law textbooks on Saul's desk during that final scene. Saul must really be working that 737 collision class action angle.

Or, should I not have said that because it might have spoiled someone who "accidentally" wandered into the obviously spoiler-heavy thread, judging from the headline.
 
2012-07-16 06:36:58 PM  

keepitcherry: We're discussing a show in which a chemistry teacher single handedly wiped out an entire cartel by himself along with the boss of the entire New Mexico meth trade and people are talking about how unrealistic the magnet angle was. Hint: this show was never rooted in reality and it's not supposed to be - it's still the most entertaining show to come out and years. Learn to suspend disbelief when you watch TV.


Keep in mind that he was severely under-employed as a chemistry teacher. He contributed to a Nobel Prize-winning research project and passed up being in charge of a multi-million dollar research corporation.
 
2012-07-16 06:37:19 PM  
FTA: ...three wrongdoers obtain a powerful but huge electromagnet from a junkyard, put it in a truck and drive it near the police station, where they turn it on and erase the laptop's hard drive from a distance...

Good luck doing that to my MacBook Air.
 
2012-07-16 06:44:49 PM  
From what I saw, that Denny's was the one on Central right across from UNM. That's a damn weird place to do an arms deal, heh.

/Too good for the Frontier, Walt?
 
2012-07-16 06:56:53 PM  

Stratohead: MadAzza: Lsherm: Rye_: I think it didn't work and that laptop's going to show up again.

"Because I say so" seems like something that will bite him in the ass. Maybe.

I think the Cayman bank account number on the picture, which was only exposed as evidence because of his magnet idea, will probably come back to bite him in the ass faster. Once the feds get on those bank accounts the cartel is going to come looking for whoever ruined their money parade.

But I DO like the idea that the writers left the option open that the magnet didn't work at all.

That one quick shot of the Bank of Cayman paper ... that was terrific. They didn't dwell on it, and if you looked away (at your laptop or something), you'd miss it. I love stuff like that.



basically, we have them attempting to wipe a laptop they don't even know for certain has incriminating evidence (just because the video streams to it, doesn't mean it stores the video...as cautious and collected as Gustavo was...I have a hard time seeing him storing months and months worth of damning video footage on a laptop clearly belonging to himself) and as a result uncover a hidden account number for the investigators... which is probably how they will link to Walt , and Jesse... by following the money...
though frankly... the most they can do is bust them for income tax evasion and money laundering...right now, their is no evidence they ever cooked anything remotely like meth.


Walt would have a hard time explaining, to his brother-in-law or anyone else, why his offshore bank account is mixed in with the evidence from a meth-lab explosion.

IF they can trace the bank account to Walt, and isn't anonymity part of the reason for a Cayman account?

Just thinking out loud here. God, I love this show.
 
2012-07-16 06:58:06 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: They can come up with this magnet contraption (of dubious efficacy) but could not come up with anything to but through 2 feet of concrete and introduce thermite - or magnet? 2ft of concrete laced with re-bar - no way that's going to affect the strength of the field.

Besides, erase the laptop, fine. Then the cops make one call to DHS and everything that ever went through that laptop is theirs.


Computers are not full of magic. The ability of any agency to recover a properly (and sometimes improperly) destroyed drive is mostly myth. Usually recoveries take place from people who think "deleting things" works (though, to their credit, it does work a decent bit on SSDs). Encrypting a drive and then wiping it once with 1s and 0s will put it past the ability of even most three-letter agencies to recover it. Degaussing it afterwards will effectively stop everyone from doing it. There's a reason there are steps that are relatively easy to perform that are used for security cleared devices -- which is when you do them, there isn't going to be anyone that is going to go to the trouble to theoretically try to recover the data, even hostile nations. This is also why the feds tend to seize first, ask questions later.

There are a few agencies that have the resources to do recovery that approaches magic, but it's incredibly expensive, incredibly time consuming, and it wouldn't even be used for "big drug dealers." Of all the agencies, I'd always bet on the NSA having the ability to do things that no one else believes is possible (I'm kinda convinced the NSA is actually a bunch of real-life wizards, and they just pretend to do science as a cover), but they really don't get involved with pedestrian things like drug dealers, AFAIK, unless it ends up being related to terrorism/espionage.

So, no, the cops couldn't call DHS. It's almost entirely an internet/TV myth.
 
2012-07-16 07:19:58 PM  

MadAzza: Walt would have a hard time explaining, to his brother-in-law or anyone else, why his offshore bank account is mixed in with the evidence from a meth-lab explosion.


It was never established Walt used an offshore account for money. He dealt in cash, which was laundered through the car wash. Since Gus had offshore accounts, it was probably linked to his own operations and whatever connections in Chile he still had. Whatever Gus was, he was definitely a key figure or some sort of major player (or connected to one) in Chile. I think that is what is going to bite Walt and Jesse in the ass.

That said, I cannot imagine Gus actually saving anything related to his drug enterprise on a laptop he kept in his Pollos office. For as careful as Gus was, even the idea he streamed camera footage from the lab to his office was a bit...stretchy. That's especially true for the fact that however ruthless he was, Gus did go to great lengths to protect his employees...at least, until Gus became liable for them.
 
2012-07-16 08:05:39 PM  
I don´t remember the place, but I read somewhere that this season there would be more people talking german rather than spanish, and (obviously related) we would be hearing more about Madrigal Electromotive
 
2012-07-16 08:10:27 PM  

lalolalona: I don´t remember the place, but I read somewhere that this season there would be more people talking german rather than spanish, and (obviously related) we would be hearing more about Madrigal Electromotive


The Cayman Bank thing could very well segue into all of this, forgot saying.
 
2012-07-16 08:18:05 PM  
I'm not a lesbian, but I would in all honesty give myself body and soul to season 1 era Skyler White if she took my hand and led me to her bed.
 
2012-07-16 09:46:11 PM  

lalolalona: lalolalona: I don´t remember the place, but I read somewhere that this season there would be more people talking german rather than spanish, and (obviously related) we would be hearing more about Madrigal Electromotive

The Cayman Bank thing could very well segue into all of this, forgot saying.


I thought it was Suisse?
 
2012-07-16 10:11:06 PM  

libranoelrose: I thought it was Suisse?


It said: BancSuisse - Cayman
Large version here:
Link
 
2012-07-16 10:27:22 PM  

The Homer Tax: Weisenheimer: I didn't read the comments, just the headline, which started out with "Mythbusters" and not "On last night's Breaking Bad..."

And absolutely nothing was spoiled for you. The "crazy magnetic truck" isn't some sort of giant plot twist, reveal, or anything. Knowing about its existence will do absolutely nothing to prevent you from "being immersed in the story."


Just watched it. Agreed that it wasn't a big spoiler, but it was enough of one that I was distracted until the truck was introduced.
 
2012-07-16 10:40:35 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: What I will say about this show is that most people think Walter White is a real bad ass. Truth be told, he is a farking horrible person, a truly reprehensible human being. It is hard to root for a guy who has done the things he has done so far as I have seen halfway through season three.

SPOILER: What he did, or actually didn't do to Jane was farking wrong. And the bit with the tequila and Walter Jr by the pool was farking cruel.

The guy's a dick.

I still watch.


This is precisely WHY I watch. Walt started out as the mild mannered doormat. With every ounce if power he's attained his ego has increased 10 fold, to the point at which he surpasses anti-hero and becomes strictly a villain protagonist.
 
2012-07-17 12:08:46 AM  

that bosnian sniper: MadAzza: I love stuff like that.

Even better were the aviation law textbooks on Saul's desk during that final scene. Saul must really be working that 737 collision class action angle.


Ooh, I didn't notice the books! Better and better. Maybe I'll watch it again. It's the kind of show where you really can't miss more than a couple of seconds here and there.
 
2012-07-17 12:26:14 AM  

that bosnian sniper: MadAzza: Walt would have a hard time explaining, to his brother-in-law or anyone else, why his offshore bank account is mixed in with the evidence from a meth-lab explosion.

It was never established Walt used an offshore account for money. He dealt in cash, which was laundered through the car wash.


You're right; I was making a big leap there. Walt dealt in cash, and kept most of it in the crawlspace.


(...) That said, I cannot imagine Gus actually saving anything related to his drug enterprise on a laptop he kept in his Pollos office. For as careful as Gus was, even the idea he streamed camera footage from the lab to his office was a bit...stretchy. That's especially true for the fact that however ruthless he was, Gus did go to great lengths to protect his employees...at least, until Gus became liable for them.


This bothered me, too. Surely he wouldn't be so careless as to leave his laptop at work, with the security camera footage -- and who knows what other incriminating data -- on his hard drive. One of his own employees could steal it, or a customer who might be snooping around. Yes, Gus was too careful for that.

Why didn't Walt think this through before taking that enormous risk with the truck magnet?
 
2012-07-17 12:41:46 AM  
Ok, back the (magnetic) truck up just a minute.

Do you not all remember the scene when the laptop was being taken into evidence? We see the CSI techs bagging it, and then we reverse on a shocked Hank.

It's obvious to me heavily suggested that Hank has already viewed the video and now knows that his brother-in-law is Heisenberg.

/Or is he?
 
2012-07-17 01:26:44 AM  

MorePeasPlease: I'm not a lesbian, but I would in all honesty give myself body and soul to season 1 era Skyler White if she took my hand and led me to her bed.


You too huh? Though personally I dig her season 4 look the best. After she popped out the baby, when she gets in her business formal suits.... god damn.

[Oh also I'm a dude... not that it maters]



AdolfOliverPanties: What I will say about this show is that most people think Walter White is a real bad ass. Truth be told, he is a farking horrible person, a truly reprehensible human being. It is hard to root for a guy who has done the things he has done so far as I have seen halfway through season three.

SPOILER: What he did, or actually didn't do to Jane was farking wrong. And the bit with the tequila and Walter Jr by the pool was farking cruel.

The guy's a dick.

I still watch.


Isn't that kind of the point? The title of the show is Breaking Bad after all. It's about a decent man's descent into evil.
 
2012-07-17 01:44:52 AM  

NateAsbestos: MorePeasPlease: I'm not a lesbian, but I would in all honesty give myself body and soul to season 1 era Skyler White if she took my hand and led me to her bed.

You too huh? Though personally I dig her season 4 look the best. After she popped out the baby, when she gets in her business formal suits.... god damn.

[Oh also I'm a dude... not that it maters]




I'm a dude too, and certainly no lesbian.

/not that it matters
 
2012-07-17 03:41:03 AM  
SPOILER, GAH!

Shut your filthy mouth, subby!
 
2012-07-17 09:56:15 AM  
Anyone else notice that the bacon is laid on the eggs to resemble a half blown off face?
 
2012-07-17 10:21:17 AM  
Over in 3.


/god, I love this show
 
2012-07-17 12:03:41 PM  

Weisenheimer: Just watched it. Agreed that it wasn't a big spoiler, but it was enough of one that I was distracted until the truck was introduced.


Do you have Asperger's? because I read this post in Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory's" voice.
 
2012-07-17 12:35:54 PM  

The Homer Tax: Weisenheimer: Just watched it. Agreed that it wasn't a big spoiler, but it was enough of one that I was distracted until the truck was introduced.

Do you have Asperger's? because I read this post in Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory's" voice.


So you're saying that if someone told you that tomorrow night's Celebrity Execution Spectacular would include someone getting teddy-beared to death you would be able to forget about that until it happens during the broadcast, and getting that same sense of wonder at the ingenuity? No, when that particular torture device comes on screen you'll be all like "I knew that" instead of "Wow! How long can she stand that level of fluffiness? What an ingenious way to make Cher answer for her crimes!" A certain degree of enjoyment is gone because the surprise has been ruined.

To answer your question, though, both my mother and my therapist think I'm just fine, thank you very much, and they both say that you don't call anymore.
 
2012-07-17 12:43:05 PM  
one thing non ones mentioned (or I failed to read at least) from the flash forward that opened the episode... Walt was coughing,and taking meds in the bathroom... which means (in Gilligans world) that Walts cancer is back.
 
2012-07-17 03:59:05 PM  

dramboxf: Ok, back the (magnetic) truck up just a minute.

Do you not all remember the scene when the laptop was being taken into evidence? We see the CSI techs bagging it, and then we reverse on a shocked Hank.

It's obvious to me heavily suggested that Hank has already viewed the video and now knows that his brother-in-law is Heisenberg.

/Or is he?


I would be surprised if that happened. They got the laptop I think at most the day before they hit the evidence locker with the magnet. I have seen some people on some other boards suggest that Hank has probably looked at it, but in reality a random ATF agent, wouldn't even be allowed to touch it until the tech agents go through it throughly. I mean you don't want Hank turning it on and forgetting to hit the right key or not entering the right password and wiping the whole thing or deleting a file by mistake. Plus with the amount of other evidence they have to go through and leads to follow I am sure Hank is more than happy to let the computer guys work on the computer.
 
2012-07-17 04:03:17 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: What I will say about this show is that most people think Walter White is a real bad ass. Truth be told, he is a farking horrible person, a truly reprehensible human being. It is hard to root for a guy who has done the things he has done so far as I have seen halfway through season three.

SPOILER: What he did, or actually didn't do to Jane was farking wrong. And the bit with the tequila and Walter Jr by the pool was farking cruel.

The guy's a dick.

I still watch.


Yea I don't really need to root for him, and I kind of don't understand people who won't watch shows where there is no one to root for. I mean Walt isn't my friend of someone I am mentoring or someone I am interviewing for a job. He is a fictional TV meth cook who I like to watch stories about on TV. Why should I need to root for him, I just want him to do things that tell an intersting story.
 
2012-07-17 04:22:03 PM  

Weisenheimer: So you're saying that if someone told you that tomorrow night's Celebrity Execution Spectacular would include someone getting teddy-beared to death you would be able to forget about that until it happens during the broadcast, and getting that same sense of wonder at the ingenuity? No, when that particular torture device comes on screen you'll be all like "I knew that" instead of "Wow! How long can she stand that level of fluffiness? What an ingenious way to make Cher answer for her crimes!" A certain degree of enjoyment is gone because the surprise has been ruined.


That's not what happened though. All you knew about was the existence of a truck. Whoopdy-shiat.

If someone told me that "there will be a teddy bear" in whatever your asinine analogy was, I would still be able to watch it and not give a shiat because I'm a sane human being, Sheldon.
 
2012-07-17 04:48:53 PM  

The Homer Tax: Weisenheimer: So you're saying that if someone told you that tomorrow night's Celebrity Execution Spectacular would include someone getting teddy-beared to death you would be able to forget about that until it happens during the broadcast, and getting that same sense of wonder at the ingenuity? No, when that particular torture device comes on screen you'll be all like "I knew that" instead of "Wow! How long can she stand that level of fluffiness? What an ingenious way to make Cher answer for her crimes!" A certain degree of enjoyment is gone because the surprise has been ruined.

That's not what happened though. All you knew about was the existence of a truck. Whoopdy-shiat.

If someone told me that "there will be a teddy bear" in whatever your asinine analogy was, I would still be able to watch it and not give a shiat because I'm a sane human being, Sheldon.


You would watch Celebrity Execution Spectacular and still call yourself a sane human being? What kind of monster are you? I just want to be as spoiler-free as possible when watching quality television.
 
2012-07-17 04:54:22 PM  

mechgreg: dramboxf: Ok, back the (magnetic) truck up just a minute.

Do you not all remember the scene when the laptop was being taken into evidence? We see the CSI techs bagging it, and then we reverse on a shocked Hank.

It's obvious to me heavily suggested that Hank has already viewed the video and now knows that his brother-in-law is Heisenberg.

/Or is he?

I would be surprised if that happened. They got the laptop I think at most the day before they hit the evidence locker with the magnet. I have seen some people on some other boards suggest that Hank has probably looked at it, but in reality a random ATF agent, wouldn't even be allowed to touch it until the tech agents go through it throughly. I mean you don't want Hank turning it on and forgetting to hit the right key or not entering the right password and wiping the whole thing or deleting a file by mistake. Plus with the amount of other evidence they have to go through and leads to follow I am sure Hank is more than happy to let the computer guys work on the computer.


Hanks DEA... and odds are , they are able to seize Frings shiat, under the PATRIOT act (bomb=terrorism) but since Gus is the victim of the bomb, or apparently so, and he is a key suspect in the super lab... they are still sorting things out...which means no one is going to begin to search the laptops files without a signed warrant... even though Gus is dead... they want to make sure they follow procedure to ensure that if and when a criminal case does come down the pipe, they can make the strongest case possible...assuming they (and to clarify..."they" means APD, New Mexico State PD, DEA, FBI, ATF...and of course DOHS/DOJ looking over everyones shoulders).

and no way Hank has seen video of Walt's involvement at this stage...
first...Hanks discover has been building for 4 seasons so far... no way they'd have his reaction Off Camera...no way.
Second... he wouldn't be idly standing by watching cops sift through the magnet's wreckage of the evidence room...he'd be beating the shiat out of Walt...considering the second Hank learns of Walts involvement...he will suss out that Walt put him in the shootout with Tuco, Walt set him up his over-reaction to beat Jesse that almost cost him his career...Walt set him up for the Twins to come at him nearly killing him, and crippling him in the process...etc... Hank would/will not take this news calmly or quietly.
 
2012-07-17 06:46:06 PM  

Trocadero: [blog.bullz-eye.com image 477x317]
Of all the shiat done on this show, and all the other terrible things done by TV's worst villains, the most unrepentantly evil, petty, non-rational, indefensible thing done was sticking the car wash owner's very first dollar into the vending machine. That's was the most dickish thing I've ever seen.


I loved that scene. I was kinda happy to see Walt get the best of his asshole former boss, but then shocked with what he did with the dollar. He was kicking a man when he's down. It just shows how over the edge Walt is going.
 
2012-07-17 07:08:38 PM  

schpanky: I loved that scene. I was kinda happy to see Walt get the best of his asshole former boss, but then shocked with what he did with the dollar. He was kicking a man when he's down. It just shows how over the edge Walt is going.



fark that dick of a boss, that was awesome ... bet that soda tasted like fizzy liquid payback.
Good for Walt, that was okay by me.

Also, fark Walt for everything else, though.

/except Jane
//fark Jane
 
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