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2012-07-16 03:55:13 PM
yeah, opposition. that's what I meant
 
2012-07-16 03:55:48 PM

Mugato: Cyno01: And the correct ranking of the movies is, 2, 4, 8, 6, 3, 10, 1, 9, 7, 5.

I don't get the hate for Trek 3. It had the first appearance of the "new" Klingon, the Klingon that weren't just communists. It had the first appearance of the Klingon War Bird, which would appear in about every movie and TNG. The big boobed Klingon girl, Kirk's pussy son gets killed, Kirk steals the Enterprise, Kirk blows up the Enterprise, what's not to like?


I know, 3 is the only good odd numbered trek. And 2, 3 and 4 make a nice little trilogy.


cman: Sorry, dude, but you cannot put 4 before 8 in the rankings. 8 was SOOOO farking awesome. 8 was the best Trek film hands down in the 90s


Well double dumbass on you. No seriously, funny (barely) trumps Sir Stewart chewing scenery. 4 is probably my favorite, but i dont dare put it ahead of 2...
 
2012-07-16 03:57:14 PM

cman: NeoCortex42: jayhawk88: phimuskapsi: I don't get all the fuss over DS9.

DS9's "arc" story lines (Bajor's struggles with independence and the Maquis, Sisko's role as Emissary, the Dominion War/Founders, etc) are generally well done and interesting. But the filler episodes on the show were pretty sub-par.

Even the filler episodes were often interesting in their own way and nowhere near Voyager's worse.
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This, this, this, THIS

This episode is one of my favs of the season, and usually filler episodes never enter that list.


I dunno. Voyager had some pretty awesome ones, so did TNG.

TNG Fillers:
- Time's Arrow: Great episode, made phenomenal by the actor who was Mark Twain.
- Genesis: Crew devolves. Worf becomes 'The Predator'
- The Inner Light: One of the best Star Trek episodes in general
- True Q, Q-Pid, Deja Q, Tapestry: I mean...Jon deLancie...

Voyager:
- The Killing Game: Awesome and probably best use of the holodecks in any Star Trek series
- Tsunkatse: Another hunter based episode but awesome
- The one where the Doctor goes crazy about choices
- Omega Directive
- Timeless
 
2012-07-16 03:57:47 PM

Nova81426: cman: Cyno01: Nova81426: Well aware that there are variances in quality within a series, this is my general list from best to worst (also known as "How likely am I to rematch this?")

Deep Space Nine
The Next Generation
The Original Series
Enterprise Season 4 (practically a different series)
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity
Voyager
Enterprise Season 1-3

Discuss.

DS9 S3-7
TNG S3-7
ENT S3-4
TOS
DS9 S1-2
TNG S1-2
VOY S1-3
ENT s1-2
TAS
VOY S4-7

And the correct ranking of the movies is, 2, 4, 8, 6, 3, 10, 1, 9, 7, 5.

Sorry, dude, but you cannot put 4 before 8 in the rankings. 8 was SOOOO farking awesome. 8 was the best Trek film hands down in the 90s

Agree with portion in bold, disagree with statement as a whole. Original list is correct.


4 was pure comedy. 8 had comedy, action, drama. Look at Picard in the film. He called Worf a coward of all people. Picard was always the cool headed captain (Kirk was the adventure seeker, Sisko was the bad ass, Janeway was the reluctant leader, and Archer, well, who the fark knows what he was) and to see his transformation into this revenge seeking machine was amazing. Would have you ever thought that Picard could go into a casino and shoot up everyone in there? (A scene where he lures the Borg into the holodecks and turn the safety's off)

8 was about showing Picard in a different way, and they not only succeeded, they exceeded.

/Plus, 8 had a better musical score
 
2012-07-16 03:58:22 PM

Nova81426:
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity



That's the Kzinti episode, right?
 
2012-07-16 03:59:30 PM

cman: Nova81426: cman: Cyno01: Nova81426: Well aware that there are variances in quality within a series, this is my general list from best to worst (also known as "How likely am I to rematch this?")

Deep Space Nine
The Next Generation
The Original Series
Enterprise Season 4 (practically a different series)
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity
Voyager
Enterprise Season 1-3

Discuss.

DS9 S3-7
TNG S3-7
ENT S3-4
TOS
DS9 S1-2
TNG S1-2
VOY S1-3
ENT s1-2
TAS
VOY S4-7

And the correct ranking of the movies is, 2, 4, 8, 6, 3, 10, 1, 9, 7, 5.

Sorry, dude, but you cannot put 4 before 8 in the rankings. 8 was SOOOO farking awesome. 8 was the best Trek film hands down in the 90s

Agree with portion in bold, disagree with statement as a whole. Original list is correct.

4 was pure comedy. 8 had comedy, action, drama. Look at Picard in the film. He called Worf a coward of all people. Picard was always the cool headed captain (Kirk was the adventure seeker, Sisko was the bad ass, Janeway was the reluctant leader, and Archer, well, who the fark knows what he was) and to see his transformation into this revenge seeking machine was amazing. Would have you ever thought that Picard could go into a casino and shoot up everyone in there? (A scene where he lures the Borg into the holodecks and turn the safety's off)

8 was about showing Picard in a different way, and they not only succeeded, they exceeded.

/Plus, 8 had a better musical score


"You broke your tiny ship."

James Cromwell was BRILLIANT as Zephram.
 
2012-07-16 04:00:24 PM

Fish in a Barrel: NeoCortex42: jayhawk88: phimuskapsi: I don't get all the fuss over DS9.

DS9's "arc" story lines (Bajor's struggles with independence and the Maquis, Sisko's role as Emissary, the Dominion War/Founders, etc) are generally well done and interesting. But the filler episodes on the show were pretty sub-par.

Even the filler episodes were often interesting in their own way and nowhere near Voyager's worse.
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"Death to the opposition!"


"find him and kill him!"
 
2012-07-16 04:03:08 PM

cman: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato: That's what I'm talking about....

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The Stealth Hippopotamus: But Enterprise started out so well, it had such promise!

Enterprise was the only series except for the original that was actually good in its first season. And it was good in its last season. Except the finale.

DS9 had some of its best episodes in its first season, including "Duet"

They really didnt shine until much later on. Sure they had some good episodes in the first season, but comparing "Duet" to "The Visitor" and you will easily see the clear cut winner. "Far Beyond the Stars" is probably my second favorite after "The Visitor". I am a grown ass man. I've done two tours in Iraq. I cried out loud when I saw "The Visitor" for the first time three years ago



It was good when it was:
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But it was awesome when it:
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DS9 really was the first time when the Federation wasn't perfect.
Like Quark and Garak commented:


[Garak takes a drink of root beer]
Quark: What do you think?
Elim Garak: It's vile.
Quark: I know. It's so bubbly and cloying and happy.
Elim Garak: Just like the Federation.
Quark: And you know what's really frightening? If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.
Elim Garak: It's insidious.
Quark: Just like the Federation

Plus they really brought home the Dominion war. Nog's story line, plus Sisko's fake out to bring the Romulans, but most of all it was starting every other episode with the causality list. If I had one problem with DS9 was the O'Brien story lines. They really gave that guy hell! I just watched all the episodes again on Netflicks. If you watch them back to back to back you see that there for a time O'Brien got hammered on every other episode!! After a while you would think he would never get into another shuttlecraft again!

That and self sealing stem bolts shows up all the time. It makes me giggle every time
 
2012-07-16 04:03:23 PM

badLogic: Nova81426:
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity



That's the Kzinti episode, right?


There was the one with Captain April, and the one about Spock's childhood. So, two of them are sort of in continuity.

/wish one of these animation geeks would cobble together a fan made flash animation "remastered" Star Trek: TAS episode using the full soundtrack from an episode just to see how it would look.
 
2012-07-16 04:05:05 PM

cman: Nova81426: cman: Cyno01: Nova81426: Well aware that there are variances in quality within a series, this is my general list from best to worst (also known as "How likely am I to rematch this?")

Deep Space Nine
The Next Generation
The Original Series
Enterprise Season 4 (practically a different series)
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity
Voyager
Enterprise Season 1-3

Discuss.

DS9 S3-7
TNG S3-7
ENT S3-4
TOS
DS9 S1-2
TNG S1-2
VOY S1-3
ENT s1-2
TAS
VOY S4-7

And the correct ranking of the movies is, 2, 4, 8, 6, 3, 10, 1, 9, 7, 5.

Sorry, dude, but you cannot put 4 before 8 in the rankings. 8 was SOOOO farking awesome. 8 was the best Trek film hands down in the 90s

Agree with portion in bold, disagree with statement as a whole. Original list is correct.

4 was pure comedy. 8 had comedy, action, drama. Look at Picard in the film. He called Worf a coward of all people. Picard was always the cool headed captain (Kirk was the adventure seeker, Sisko was the bad ass, Janeway was the reluctant leader, and Archer, well, who the fark knows what he was) and to see his transformation into this revenge seeking machine was amazing. Would have you ever thought that Picard could go into a casino and shoot up everyone in there? (A scene where he lures the Borg into the holodecks and turn the safety's off)

8 was about showing Picard in a different way, and they not only succeeded, they exceeded.

/Plus, 8 had a better musical score


First Contact was awesome, and for a while I considered it the best, but the characterizations are way off. The reason I can't imagine Picard going into a casino and shooting everyone is because he wouldn't. He moved past all his Borg issues during the show. He made a big speech about it regarding the decision not to kill Hugh.
 
2012-07-16 04:05:40 PM

Cyno01: cman: Sorry, dude, but you cannot put 4 before 8 in the rankings. 8 was SOOOO farking awesome. 8 was the best Trek film hands down in the 90s

Well double dumbass on you. No seriously, funny (barely) trumps Sir Stewart chewing scenery. 4 is probably my favorite, but i dont dare put it ahead of 2...


Really, the time travel movies are the best? The Borg can do time travel anytime they want and they just decide to do it once, while they're under fire and someone can follow them? And in the whale movie, anyone with a warp drive can just go back in time whenever they want? And in Generations, Picard and Kirk can go to any time anywhere they want and they go to two minutes before the bad guy destroys everything? Time travel is just handled so badly in Star Trek with the exception of The City on the Edge of Forever.
 
2012-07-16 04:06:06 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus:
Plus they really brought home the Dominion war. Nog's story line, plus Sisko's fake out to bring the Romulans, but most of all it was starting every other episode with the causality list. If I had one problem with DS9 was the O'Brien story lines. They really gave that guy hell! I just watched all the episodes again on Netflicks. If you watch them back to back to back you see that there for a time O'Brien got hammered on every other episode!! After a while you would think he would never get into another shuttlecraft again!

.


O'Brien didn't get it as bad as he could have.

After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.
 
2012-07-16 04:06:35 PM
I chatted with Jeri Ryan a few weeks back, and can confirm that - among other things - she is still very attractive.

Unfortunately, my plans of making her the future ex-Mrs Towatchoverme appear to have stalled, somewhat.
 
2012-07-16 04:09:29 PM

jayhawk88: This show keeps popping up on the Netflix streaming page, and every time I'm tempted, especially since I never saw the finale. I think I'd have to go through DS9 first though, and while it was a good show overall...let's face it, that'd be a tough road to travel. "Oh good, another Jake and Nog episode!"


I watched through all of DS9 a while ago. Made a handy episode list that skips the crap and concentrates on the good and important-for-the-arc episodes (a couple of which were stinkers, but necessary for plot continuation). Coz I can't be bothered to type all the names, here's the season/episode numbers:

Season One: 1/2, 7, 12, 13, 20
Season Two: 1 - 3, 12, 19, 20, 21, 23, 26
Season Three: 1, 2, 7 - 9, 11 - 15, 19, 20, 21, 26
Season Four: 1 - 12, 14, 15, 18, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26
Season Five: 1 - 4, 6 - 8, 10 - 16, 21 - 24, 26
Season Six: 1 - 8, 11 - 15, 17 - 22, 25, 26
Season Seven: 1 - 4, 6 - 10, 12 - 14, 16 - 26

Purely subjective in my opinion of what is a good episode, of course!

/Just finished watching through Voyager
//Currently on Babylon 5
///Enterprise is next
 
2012-07-16 04:09:37 PM

Strik3r: For some reason, reading this was somehow encouraging.....

FTFA "Although she's had some pretty interesting things happen outside of the entertainment industry as well, Jeri was married to investment banker and former Republican senatorial candidate Jack Ryan, the reason for their split and his withdrawal from the State Senate Election in Illinois was rather sordid. It turns out that her former hubby Jack was a bit of a sex pest dragging her off to sex clubs and private dungeons trying to encourage her to 'perform' in public.
"


Leaving the Illinois senator race pretty much open for some unknown community organizer named Barack Obama. So if Jeri Ryan had been a bit of an exhibitionist or skank, presidential history may have been very different.
 
2012-07-16 04:09:58 PM

Nova81426: The reason I can't imagine Picard going into a casino and shooting everyone is because he wouldn't. He moved past all his Borg issues during the show. He made a big speech about it regarding the decision not to kill Hugh.


Running a hologram program, dressing up in a suit, making the girl dress up in a dress just to get to a gun that he could have just replicated didn't make any sense at all.
 
2012-07-16 04:11:18 PM

FirstNationalBastard: After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.


If there is one thing that bugged me about DS9, it was Vic Fontaine. I just could not stand that character.
 
2012-07-16 04:12:49 PM

badLogic: Nova81426:
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity



That's the Kzinti episode, right?


Uh... don't correct him. It sickens him.

/sabotaaage
 
2012-07-16 04:13:03 PM

Fish in a Barrel: FirstNationalBastard: After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.

If there is one thing that bugged me about DS9, it was Vic Fontaine. I just could not stand that character.


Likewise.

His episodes were horrible.

However, I liked the one where he was real in the mirror universe, and ended up getting killed
 
2012-07-16 04:14:46 PM

Fish in a Barrel: FirstNationalBastard: After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.

If there is one thing that bugged me about DS9, it was Vic Fontaine. I just could not stand that character.


I liked Vic Fontaine, but I hated the Ocean's Eleven episode, especially because of Sisko's moral stand.

I mean, really... it's been over 500 years since slavery, 400 years since the civil rights movement, and people are still pissed about it?
 
2012-07-16 04:15:23 PM

badLogic: Nova81426:
The one episode of The Animated Series that is in continuity



That's the Kzinti episode, right?


I was referring to Yesteryear.
 
2012-07-16 04:16:51 PM
I think you're all missing the true answer - the best Star Trek, counting all series, episodes, and movies is:

Galaxy Quest
 
2012-07-16 04:17:49 PM

wildcardjack: the Borg twisted from communism to capitalism after absorbing too many Ferengi and opening their transwarp conduits to toll paying ships


hahaha!!!!

I tip my hat to you sir. The thought of the Borg specking with Grand Nagus Zek voice made me giggle out loud.

"I am Grand Nagus 20% off 150% mark up"
 
2012-07-16 04:19:14 PM

Subby's Mother: I think you're all missing the true answer - the best Star Trek, counting all series, episodes, and movies is:

Galaxy Quest


That was second best, a close second, but second none the less.
The best Trek of all time was-

"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World."
 
2012-07-16 04:19:33 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Huh?

I'm sorry, the final episode of Enterprise was that two parter in the Mirror Universe. There was nothing after that.

Sure, I heard something about how they wanted to do a sequel to the TNG Episode "The Pegasus", but I don't know if that happened or not.


No. The finale was the Terra Prime two-parter. I mean, how awesome is it to get Peter Weller as the guest star for the series finale?
 
2012-07-16 04:24:17 PM
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I am getting in trouble for giggling at this at work.
 
2012-07-16 04:25:56 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Fish in a Barrel: FirstNationalBastard: After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.

If there is one thing that bugged me about DS9, it was Vic Fontaine. I just could not stand that character.

I liked Vic Fontaine, but I hated the Ocean's Eleven episode, especially because of Sisko's moral stand.

I mean, really... it's been over 500 years since slavery, 400 years since the civil rights movement, and people are still pissed about it?


I would like an episode or two with The Doctor and Vic Fontaine just hanging out, doin hologram stuff.
 
2012-07-16 04:27:41 PM
cman: Two Dogs Farking: Star Trek: Voyager was probably one of my favourite Star Trek series growing up; it was the second spin-off of The Next Generation and the one that perfected the balance between action and drama most expertly (in my opinion at least).

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DS9 was the best
Voyager was second worst
Nothing could ever undo the damage Enterprise wrought upon the franchise


Nonsense.

Voyager killed Trek.

Enterprise was a series done to stop the mountain collapse around the franchise, and as such never had a chance. Time slots moved around, constantly messed with, and ripped to shreds because of a poor title song.

Watching in order now, it holds up pretty damn well. Where Voyager had 2 good episodes per 26 a season; Enterprise had a much more respectable track record.

Hell, the characters actually were developed people like back in the glory days of DS9 and not hollow cardboard cutouts used to graft whatever the story of the week was in Voyager.

It's fitting that only Ryan and Picardo went on to better things, since they're pretty much the only watchable episodes in Voyager. (Ethan Philips was able to hid behind his makeup, luckily for him).
 
2012-07-16 04:27:44 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: [fancydresscostumes.co.uk image 500x367]

I am getting in trouble for giggling at this at work.


Ok, even the fans who hated Voyager with all of their heart loved this episode.
 
2012-07-16 04:28:29 PM

FirstNationalBastard: O'Brien didn't get it as bad as he could have.

After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.



Good Q how the hell could they do that to him. How many prisons, torture room, shuttle crashes can a man put up with. And don't get me started with how many times his kids and wife where in harms way. Possession, time shifts, and having to be born from another woman other than you mother! It would suck to be an O'Brien!
But he did have one of the best lines in Trek history. When asked if he like it better on DS9 or the Enterprise "I love it here on DS9, they need me here. On the Enterprise I would just stand around the transporter room waiting for something to do."
 
2012-07-16 04:28:50 PM
I think they're rather unflattering photos of Kate Mulgrew. I saw her walking on the street last year, and she looked rather ravishing.
 
2012-07-16 04:29:50 PM

TyrantII: cman: Two Dogs Farking: Star Trek: Voyager was probably one of my favourite Star Trek series growing up; it was the second spin-off of The Next Generation and the one that perfected the balance between action and drama most expertly (in my opinion at least).

[www.imglols.com image 570x423]

DS9 was the best
Voyager was second worst
Nothing could ever undo the damage Enterprise wrought upon the franchise

Nonsense.

Voyager killed Trek.

Enterprise was a series done to stop the mountain collapse around the franchise, and as such never had a chance. Time slots moved around, constantly messed with, and ripped to shreds because of a poor title song.

Watching in order now, it holds up pretty damn well. Where Voyager had 2 good episodes per 26 a season; Enterprise had a much more respectable track record.

Hell, the characters actually were developed people like back in the glory days of DS9 and not hollow cardboard cutouts used to graft whatever the story of the week was in Voyager.

It's fitting that only Ryan and Picardo went on to better things, since they're pretty much the only watchable episodes in Voyager. (Ethan Philips was able to hid behind his makeup, luckily for him).


I am also very pissed about one fact: Neelix was on all 7 seasons. Who was the moron who did this? Why was it done? Did they think it was gonna get them ratings?

Neelix is a prime example of what is wrong with Trek
 
2012-07-16 04:30:16 PM

Bungles: I think they're rather unflattering photos of Kate Mulgrew. I saw her walking on the street last year, and she looked rather ravishing.



By "walking on the street", I don't mean "street walking".
 
2012-07-16 04:31:09 PM
I don't care what anyone says, Voyager is my favorite Trek. Although TNG is admittedly a better series.

Enterprise bored me to tears, it wasn't until somewhere in Season 3 that it started to interest me, but then in Season 4 it was just excessive with the Xindi stuff. I liked it, but sometimes you just need a break from the story arcs and need a standalone episode, which they didn't do much of in Season 4. Then it ended rather poorly so, I really don't like Enterprise. Also I hated all of the characters. They were so freaking boring. Okay, Floxx was awesome, but they didn't utilize him enough. They should have used him like the Doctor. T'Pol was mildly interesting, but it was pathetic how they always tried to find a way to get her practically naked with Tripp. While I'm not complaining as she's obviously hot, but it was completely transparent why they were doing it which only annoyed me. Archer, Merriweather, Malcolm, and Tripp were one-dimensional cardboard characters that I just didn't care about. Tripp's "good-old Southern boy" thing actually made me detest him every time he was on the screen (which was a lot!). Hoshi became more interesting as the show went on, but was also relatively bland.

I could never get into DS9, but I think I might like it if I tried watching it now. I don't think I'll ever watch TOS.
 
2012-07-16 04:31:59 PM
What about the one cast member who had minor appearances in every season of Voyager only to die like 3 episodes before they make it home?
 
2012-07-16 04:33:24 PM
Ok, that recent Kes photo has just broken my teenage heart.
 
2012-07-16 04:33:47 PM
The principle in children's TV show iCarly?

Great job, editors. The correct spelling is even shown in the picture you used
 
2012-07-16 04:34:58 PM
cman:

You are right. ENT had SO much potential. Right out to bat they gave themselves a devistating blow: they casted Scott Backula. This searies was dead before it had a chance.

Plus, the friendship between Archer and Trip (who were supposed to be best friends) just seemed sooooo damned forced. It didnt feel organic.


The joke to me has always been that Mulgrew was perfectly cast as Janeway, but the writers absolutely mutilated her character. They got the actress right, but killed the character and phoned it in before they even got started. But, that's also what made the show so unbearable.


With ENT they had the character down to a T, but cast that shiat eating grin Bakula that couldn't deliver a line to save himself.

Tim Allen in Galaxy Quest was more believable as a Ships Captain, when you knew him to be a fraudulent actor phoning in a role as a ruse, than Bakula was on a supposedly serious star trek show. He was the single worst casting decision in all of Trek. Ever.
 
2012-07-16 04:35:08 PM

PillsHere: Okay, Floxx was awesome,


Nerd rage subsiding..

Deep breaths. I almost lost it. Floxx was one of the best characters ever and they totally wasted him
 
2012-07-16 04:35:49 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: FirstNationalBastard: O'Brien didn't get it as bad as he could have.

After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.


Good Q how the hell could they do that to him. How many prisons, torture room, shuttle crashes can a man put up with. And don't get me started with how many times his kids and wife where in harms way. Possession, time shifts, and having to be born from another woman other than you mother! It would suck to be an O'Brien!
But he did have one of the best lines in Trek history. When asked if he like it better on DS9 or the Enterprise "I love it here on DS9, they need me here. On the Enterprise I would just stand around the transporter room waiting for something to do."


Yeah, I love that line. O'Brien may have been my favorite character on DS9. They really did put him through the ringer, though. The bromance between him and Basheer was pretty entertaining, too. "Well yeah, you love Keiko, but you like me more."
 
2012-07-16 04:36:25 PM

TyrantII: cman: Two Dogs Farking:

Enterprise was a series done to stop the mountain collapse around the franchise, and as such never had a chance. Time slots moved around, constantly messed with, and ripped to shreds because of a poor title song.

Watching in order now, it holds up pretty damn well. Where Voyager had 2 good episodes per 26 a season; Enterprise had a much more respectable track record.

Hell, the characters actually were developed people like back in the glory days of DS9 and not hollow cardboard cutouts used to graft whatever the story of the week was in Voyager.


My dad liked Enterprise (he was a former sub captain) the best. He related to many of the crew interactions. Many very different people, thrust into a steel hulled death trap in a dangerous environment, not knowing what they would encounter, but still getting a satisfaction of the duty they took on. A submarine in space.
 
2012-07-16 04:38:56 PM

cman: I am also very pissed about one fact: Neelix was on all 7 seasons. Who was the moron who did this? Why was it done? Did they think it was gonna get them ratings?


Not a lot of people know this, but Neelix's last name is MacGuffin.
 
2012-07-16 04:39:16 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: What about the one cast member who had minor appearances in every season of Voyager only to die like 3 episodes before they make it home?


Dualla?
 
2012-07-16 04:40:18 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: FirstNationalBastard: O'Brien didn't get it as bad as he could have.

After seeing how the Nog amputation story went, the producers said if they had known that they had known when they chose the character to lose a limb that they would be doing a follow-up episode with Vic Fontaine, they would have had O'Brien be the one to lose a leg.


Good Q how the hell could they do that to him. How many prisons, torture room, shuttle crashes can a man put up with. And don't get me started with how many times his kids and wife where in harms way. Possession, time shifts, and having to be born from another woman other than you mother! It would suck to be an O'Brien!
But he did have one of the best lines in Trek history. When asked if he like it better on DS9 or the Enterprise "I love it here on DS9, they need me here. On the Enterprise I would just stand around the transporter room waiting for something to do."


The writers made a point of torturing O'Brien at least once a season. They enjoyed it.

/if you can find a copy, check out the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine companion. That's where all my DS9 info comes from. It's a great book with actual behind the scenes stories and information, not just an episode and trivia guide like most companion books seem to be.
 
2012-07-16 04:42:54 PM
Kes sucked. Hated her, wish they blew her out a space lock. Neelix was just as annoying. Always trying to be helpful, fark that.

Other than those 2 character's, it was the best cast , except the original.
 
2012-07-16 04:43:07 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Deep breaths. I almost lost it. Floxx was one of the best characters ever and they totally wasted him


Good character, good actor. I was happy to see him pop up when I started watching True Blood.

The tree, probably not as happy...
 
2012-07-16 04:44:18 PM

Losting: Kes sucked. Hated her, wish they blew her out a space lock. Neelix was just as annoying. Always trying to be helpful, fark that.

Other than those 2 character's, it was the best cast , except the original.


She was beautiful. Jennifer Lien was amazingly hot. Its a shame she never did any nude scenes. I bet ya she had a nice pair of melons.
 
2012-07-16 04:46:58 PM

cman: She was beautiful. Jennifer Lien was amazingly hot. Its a shame she never did any nude scenes. I bet ya she had a nice pair of melons.


These days, she looks like she'd just whip em out at random...
 
2012-07-16 04:48:15 PM

TyrantII: He was the single worst casting decision in all of Trek. Ever.


Really?

He wasn't that bad. Really and truly his was perfect. Wide eyed adventurer who could believe his luck about getting the command of the ship his dad help make possible. If they just stuck to that, and had some fun with the canon we could have had a great show. And that's what it was in the first season. Then they completely changed the show and turned the Enterprise into a war ship. No one in the cast was great actors. High drama just wasn't in their range. Scott got hoodwinked with that show.

Just cause I can.

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What a great episode.
 
2012-07-16 04:48:47 PM
 
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