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2012-07-16 03:31:35 PM  

doczoidberg: Jim from Saint Paul: doczoidberg: I've got a GREAT idea:
Retarded Batman.

Already done.

That was...awesome.


YTMND has it's moments dude.
 
2012-07-16 03:35:40 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: frepnog: mjohnson71: They waited about 20 years between Adam West "Batman" and Michael Keaton "Batman" (at least live-action wise.) That sounds about right.

/And Star Trek should have been given 10 years or so to rest

except that the 2009 movie kicked much ass, and other than Khan is arguably the best of the Trek motion pictures.

1 - sucks.
2 - good, but dated. Ricardo chews much scenery.
3 - just terrible. don't try to defend it. it farking sucks.
4 - watchable, fun, but hardly much of a trek film. (WE HAVE NO BUDGET THEREFORE 80's)
5 - dear god.
6 - oh dear god.
generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)
first contact - seemed ok until you watch it now. ruins the borg, and every single scene on earth sucks. also, useless black actress.

let's not talk about those last two TNG films.

and then 2009 Star Trek. Great effects. Great story. Great characters fully nailed by young enthusiastic actors. Awesome. Makes the other films on the whole look terrible. yes, lensflare and all, but it really isn't nearly as noticeable as fark makes out. I saw the film in theaters day of release and didnt notice until fark,

Considering that The Undiscovered Country and First Contact were two of the top three of the pre-2009 Star Trek movies, I think it's safe to say that we can completely ignore your opinions entirely. You're a bad person for not liking the same things I like and you should feel bad.

/Also, you didn't notice the lens flare? Seriously? Even my (then) 6 year-old son noticed it. "Dad, why are all the lights on the ship so sparkly?"


of course you can ignore my opinions. but they are for the most part accurate and reflect the tastes of the movie going public as well. say what you will and yes this isn't be all end all, but rotten tomatoes has pretty accurate reviews for the films.

the new one has the highest rating of ALL the trek films.

meh.

/life long trekkie here that can admit most of the movies stink on ice.
 
2012-07-16 03:40:40 PM  

mechgreg: Wayne 985: Worst:
1. Batman and Robin
2. Batman Forever
3. Batman ('66)
4. Batman ('89)
5. Batman Returns

I watched part of 89 batman on TV last week and it really doesn't hold up. The effects are bad, the sets look totally fake on my HDTV, Jack Nicholson is chewing the scenery really badly and Burton doesn't seem to understand that the Joker isn't just a mob boss with face paint or that Batman shouldn't have machine guns and bombs on The Batmobile. The only thing I thought that really worked was Keaton's performance.


Yeah. Batman Returns isn't *great*, but I still enjoy it because it's self-aware. Burton not only got Batman wrong in the first one, but he took him far too seriously and two-dimensionally.
 
2012-07-16 03:41:16 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I created this alt just for this thread: frepnog: mjohnson71: They waited about 20 years between Adam West "Batman" and Michael Keaton "Batman" (at least live-action wise.) That sounds about right.

/And Star Trek should have been given 10 years or so to rest

except that the 2009 movie kicked much ass, and other than Khan is arguably the best of the Trek motion pictures.

1 - sucks.
2 - good, but dated. Ricardo chews much scenery.
3 - just terrible. don't try to defend it. it farking sucks.
4 - watchable, fun, but hardly much of a trek film. (WE HAVE NO BUDGET THEREFORE 80's)
5 - dear god.
6 - oh dear god.
generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)
first contact - seemed ok until you watch it now. ruins the borg, and every single scene on earth sucks. also, useless black actress.

let's not talk about those last two TNG films.

and then 2009 Star Trek. Great effects. Great story. Great characters fully nailed by young enthusiastic actors. Awesome. Makes the other films on the whole look terrible. yes, lensflare and all, but it really isn't nearly as noticeable as fark makes out. I saw the film in theaters day of release and didnt notice until fark,

Considering that The Undiscovered Country and First Contact were two of the top three of the pre-2009 Star Trek movies, I think it's safe to say that we can completely ignore your opinions entirely. You're a bad person for not liking the same things I like and you should feel bad.

/Also, you didn't notice the lens flare? Seriously? Even my (then) 6 year-old son noticed it. "Dad, why are all the lights on the ship so sparkly?"

Oh good I can do this too:

Best Star Trek Films:

1. Wrath of Kahn
2. Voyage Home (We have no budget therefore HUMOR godamnit)
3. Undiscovered Country
4. First Contact
5. 2009

Worst:

1. Star Trek: Generations is the stupides movie ever made.
2. Star Trek 5 (When you have *1* good line in the whole movie then shame on you)
3. Nemesis (Also obligatory review)

Th ...


i didnt really rate them in order of best to last, just my personal chronological feelings on the films. Also, "Trek 4 now with whales yo" is one of my favorite movies, right along side Superman 3. Yes both get a little silly but they are fun movies. Wrath of Kahn is my favorite trek film, of course, but the reboot is a better film when viewed objectively (which is hard for trekkies to do).

As I said, truth be told, all opinions aside, the 2009 Trek film is a better film than those that came before. It is better reviewed and remains consistently watchable.
 
2012-07-16 03:41:29 PM  

frepnog: the new one has the highest rating of ALL the trek films.


And made the most money.

If I wanted to see young attractive people doing cool exciting things, I'd go watch sports.

/Oblig for every thread hating ST 2009
//Oh sure a few of you aren't covered by the video and just don't like the movie
///the majority of you however...
 
2012-07-16 03:51:45 PM  

devilEther: cousin-merle: sure haven't: Aside from that I have no idea what you're going for here.

Nobody cares.

ah cool, glad someone got what I was going for. I admit it wasn't terribly clear. Doom has posted that "spoiler" in at least 2 threads today.


Ahhhhhh I get it now.
Apologies for my 'hilarious' post.
 
2012-07-16 03:52:17 PM  

frepnog: generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)


Although I disagree with several of your statements, none get my gall more than this one. Crashing the Enterprise is awesome, if for no other reason than to see the scale of the ship, but I dare say sir that the crash was only part of the larger scene which could be called "The extinguishing of the sun of Veridian III" or something like that. Starting when the rocket ignites in the star, clear until the end of the crash is one of the most breathtaking scenes in history. A farking STAR going out...as viewed from its planet. Scary shiat.

Other than that? biatch on, good sir,
 
2012-07-16 03:58:02 PM  

Madbassist1: frepnog: generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)

Although I disagree with several of your statements, none get my gall more than this one. Crashing the Enterprise is awesome, if for no other reason than to see the scale of the ship, but I dare say sir that the crash was only part of the larger scene which could be called "The extinguishing of the sun of Veridian III" or something like that. Starting when the rocket ignites in the star, clear until the end of the crash is one of the most breathtaking scenes in history. A farking STAR going out...as viewed from its planet. Scary shiat.

Other than that? biatch on, good sir,


except that he shot a farking bottle rocket at a farking STAR and it got there in what, 3-4 seconds? THE GODDAMN ROCKET DIDN'T farkING WARP TO THE STAR. the scene sucks, dude. you can't really seriously defend it.

oh, and the enterprise crashed BEFORE the whole star going out scene, since they show the crashed enterprise destroyed in the explosion.

I would wager that the entirety of Star Wars Episode 2 is better than that scene. AND THAT MOVIE BLOWS.
 
2012-07-16 04:01:49 PM  

Madbassist1: "The extinguishing of the sun of Veridian III" or something like that. Starting when the rocket ignites in the star, clear until the end of the crash is one of the most breathtaking scenes in history. A farking STAR going out...as viewed from its planet. Scary shiat.


Yes.

A. ROCKET. BLEW. UP. A. STAR.

That defies the logic of every SCi-fi series I have ever watched. I am not saying that it's not possible in different fandoms. It simply makes ZERO sense in Star Trek land.
 
2012-07-16 04:01:54 PM  

frepnog: Madbassist1: frepnog: generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)

Although I disagree with several of your statements, none get my gall more than this one. Crashing the Enterprise is awesome, if for no other reason than to see the scale of the ship, but I dare say sir that the crash was only part of the larger scene which could be called "The extinguishing of the sun of Veridian III" or something like that. Starting when the rocket ignites in the star, clear until the end of the crash is one of the most breathtaking scenes in history. A farking STAR going out...as viewed from its planet. Scary shiat.

Other than that? biatch on, good sir,

except that he shot a farking bottle rocket at a farking STAR and it got there in what, 3-4 seconds? THE GODDAMN ROCKET DIDN'T farkING WARP TO THE STAR. the scene sucks, dude. you can't really seriously defend it.

oh, and the enterprise crashed BEFORE the whole star going out scene, since they show the crashed enterprise destroyed in the explosion.

I would wager that the entirety of Star Wars Episode 2 is better than that scene. AND THAT MOVIE BLOWS.


Generations is by far the best of the Trek movies for the sole reason that Kirk dies in it.
 
2012-07-16 04:06:12 PM  

Bonkthat_Again: I'm sick of Batman Spiderman/XMen movies.

 
2012-07-16 04:11:43 PM  

Jumpin Jbot: Hmm, 96% on RT and it's definitely going to be a box office smash.

Better find out what Farkers think about it first.


When these anomalies happen I just come here to sort 'em out.
 
2012-07-16 04:12:44 PM  

Smelly McUgly: I'm looking forward to the eventual reboot even though it can never be as good as I want it to be because Kevin Conroy is The One True Batman to me.

I'd love to see a GOOD movie with the Riddler though.


I'd like to see the Riddler be more "Saw"-ish. Kind of like what they did with the Joker. It would have had to be part of this arc though.
 
2012-07-16 04:14:36 PM  

mechgreg: meat0918: Can they wait a decade or so?

10 years, no way. I am sure that after the success of the Avengers that Warner Brothers is just itching to put out a justice league movie. And with superman getting rebooted next year I am sure they will want a new batman that shares the same universe as the movie superman.

Honestly though my ideal dream is that (assuming Bruce Wayne and Commissioner Gordon survive TDKR) is that they hire either David Simon or one of the writers from The Wire and make Gotham Central (but in the Nolan universe). Then wait a year or two and hire Clint Eastwood to direct Batman Beyond and also play crotchety old Bruce Wayne.

Although I do wonder what kind of nerd outrage there would be if WB just said fark it, we own the damn thing and made a bunch more Batman movies basically in the Nolan batman universe with a new director and a new actor playing batman/bruce?


Avengers farked them though with the Thanos teaser.

Who will the Justice League fight? Darkseid? Please.

Could they pull off a Justice League Vs. The Legion of Doom? Perhaps.
 
2012-07-16 04:17:34 PM  

frepnog: Madbassist1: frepnog: generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)

Although I disagree with several of your statements, none get my gall more than this one. Crashing the Enterprise is awesome, if for no other reason than to see the scale of the ship, but I dare say sir that the crash was only part of the larger scene which could be called "The extinguishing of the sun of Veridian III" or something like that. Starting when the rocket ignites in the star, clear until the end of the crash is one of the most breathtaking scenes in history. A farking STAR going out...as viewed from its planet. Scary shiat.

Other than that? biatch on, good sir,

except that he shot a farking bottle rocket at a farking STAR and it got there in what, 3-4 seconds? THE GODDAMN ROCKET DIDN'T farkING WARP TO THE STAR. the scene sucks, dude. you can't really seriously defend it.

oh, and the enterprise crashed BEFORE the whole star going out scene, since they show the crashed enterprise destroyed in the explosion.

I would wager that the entirety of Star Wars Episode 2 is better than that scene. AND THAT MOVIE BLOWS.


But Data swears!
 
2012-07-16 04:18:53 PM  
The comments under Marshall Fine's rotten review are comedy gold.
 
2012-07-16 04:23:08 PM  

Bullseyed: Smelly McUgly: I'm looking forward to the eventual reboot even though it can never be as good as I want it to be because Kevin Conroy is The One True Batman to me.

I'd love to see a GOOD movie with the Riddler though.

I'd like to see the Riddler be more "Saw"-ish. Kind of like what they did with the Joker. It would have had to be part of this arc though.


If nolan wanted to do the riddler, I always thought he would have had to basically be the serial killer character from Seven. Not trying to cause total chaos like the Joker does, just trying to fark people up and murder who he doesn't like for whatever crazy reason on an individual basis. That could have been super creepy.
 
2012-07-16 04:43:12 PM  

Splinshints: The comments under Marshall Fine's rotten review are comedy gold.


I was just reading through some of them.

This is the critic rottentomatoes deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll flame him. Because he can take it.

LOL

They've also managed to knock his website offline.
 
2012-07-16 04:46:01 PM  

Madbassist1: The Avengers is kid stuff compared with this meditation on mortal loss and heroic frailty. For once a melodrama with pulp origins convinces viewers that it can be the modern equivalent to Greek myths or a Jonathan Swift satire. TDKR is that big, that bitter - a film of grand ambitions and epic achievement. The most eagerly anticipated movie of summer 2012 was worth waiting for.


That's a pretty glowing review.


That review is kind of spoiler-laden.
 
2012-07-16 04:52:10 PM  
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2012-07-16 05:00:22 PM  
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2012-07-16 05:02:56 PM  
Huh. Looks like this might be the only movie this year to come close to the Avengers. The previews haven't looked very good to me (but I loved the Dark Knight and Begins). I think it has to do with Bane and the Goatse on his face.
 
2012-07-16 05:04:45 PM  

frepnog: except that he shot a farking bottle rocket at a farking STAR and it got there in what, 3-4 seconds?


Jim from Saint Paul: A. ROCKET. BLEW. UP. A. STAR.


Um...boys boys...we must learn to read more carefully. I anticipated....ANTICIPATED the geek butthurt sure to come from you on this...

My initial post (with relevant commentary bolded)

Madbassist1: frepnog: generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)

Although I disagree with several of your statements, none get my gall more than this one. Crashing the Enterprise is awesome, if for no other reason than to see the scale of the ship, but I dare say sir that the crash was only part of the larger scene which could be called "The extinguishing of the sun of Veridian III" or something like that. Starting when the rocket ignites in the star, clear until the end of the crash is one of the most breathtaking scenes in history. A farking STAR going out...as viewed from its planet. Scary shiat.


So what occurs before then...well, who farking cares, I wasnt talking about that.

Now...continue to biatch....thank you.
 
2012-07-16 05:20:47 PM  
Okay. Bear with me on this one:

Dick Grayson.

Instead of a new series of movies focusing on reinventing Bruce Wayne, Warner Bros. should do one that focuses more on Dick Grayson, with Batman/Bruce Wayne in a mentoring role (i.e. Obi-Wan Kenobi, with a touch of Mr. Miyagi). There hasn't been much focus on Grayson in the movies, but he IS an awesome, established character in his own right in the comics and cartoons. There's plenty of back-story and material that most people aren't familiar with that would be fresh and new, in their eyes.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, they made it a trilogy. The first part would be an origin on Grayson; "Robin Begins", basically. You'd have the death of his parents, his adoption by Bruce Wayne, building up to him becoming Robin to avenge their deaths alongside Batman as a "one-shot" deal. It's an angle that hasn't been approached much outside of the comics (or, in the case of the Schumacher films, competently. >_>), and could show sides to the characters that many people aren't familiar with.

The second part would have Dick grow up and shed his role as Robin, sidekick/protege of the Batman, and become Nightwing, a hero in his own right, trying to co-exist in Gotham alongside his mentor as an equal . Batman finds that he misses having a sidekick, that he doesn't feel complete without a Robin, and brings Jason Todd and/or Tim Drake into the mix, the end result being Dick/Nightwing leaving Gotham for another city (Bludhaven). If they used Jason, they could go down that infamous path from "A Death in the Family", and have Dick return to Gotham to try and keep Batman from going too far and cross the line from "justice" to "revenge".

For the third, and final, part, Bruce Wayne "dies". Dick returns to Gotham to fight on in his mentor's stead, with hangups occurring by the presence of Bruce's former partner(s) (i.e., Jason Todd as the Red Hood, Tim Drake convinced Bruce is still alive, Batgirl, Damien Wayne, etc.). Ultimately, Dick decides that Gotham (to say nothing of his fellow extended members of the Wayne "family") needs a Batman, and Dick Grayson becomes the new Batman to round thing out.

I know this post got a bit long, but I really think it's an idea that could work and should, at least, be explored by Warner Bros. when deciding where next to go following The Dark Knight Rises.
 
2012-07-16 05:43:32 PM  

Captain Steroid: Okay. Bear with me on this one:

Dick Grayson.

....

An adaption of Dark Victory to film would be great. It's by far the best Robin-origin story out there. Though honestly beyond that I'm not sure I'd like seeing Robin, after the way Chris O'Donnell and Schumacher just ruined the character.
 
2012-07-16 05:53:21 PM  
The 'Man of Steel' trailer is attached to TDKR, so that's an added bonus. I've seen a bootleg copy and it's really farking epic and awesome. Can't wait to see it on the big screen.
 
2012-07-16 05:57:03 PM  
Do a Planetary/Batman: Night On Earth film, panel for panel. Have the last batman be Bale in the Batman Begins suit. Tada, waffle.
 
2012-07-16 06:12:32 PM  

Supes: Captain Steroid: Okay. Bear with me on this one:

Dick Grayson.

....

An adaption of Dark Victory to film would be great. It's by far the best Robin-origin story out there. Though honestly beyond that I'm not sure I'd like seeing Robin, after the way Chris O'Donnell and Schumacher just ruined the character.


Granted, it would be an uphill climb, but I think there's a way to do it. Not hiring Joel Schumacher in any capacity would certainly help, though. :P
 
2012-07-16 06:17:24 PM  
It's becoming terribly difficult for me to maintain my patience of not having seen this film yet.

I WANT TO GIVE THEM MY DAMN MONEY ALREADY!!

/Mister Wayne.
 
2012-07-16 06:42:26 PM  

Doogled: I'd also argue that Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul were just better versions of their comic book characters than the Joker and Two Face.


farking Scarecrow, are you kidding me? Cillian Murphy's portrayal of him has made me not want to see Cillian in ANY movie. Worst part of "InTime" as well.
 
2012-07-16 06:43:36 PM  

Gunther: Would Indiana Jones be a better film series if the first one had him studying archaeology, learning how to fight Nazis with a whip and buying a fedora?


Well, its wasn't the first movie, but it was all covered in the trilogy. Watch the Holy Grail first and you've got your origin story.
 
2012-07-16 07:17:28 PM  

meat0918: Can they wait a decade or so?


Make it 20 years, and you've got a deal.

Reboots suck, Hollywood. Leave it alone after this one.
 
2012-07-16 07:33:16 PM  

kukukupo: Huh. Looks like this might be the only movie this year to come close to the Avengers. The previews haven't looked very good to me (but I loved the Dark Knight and Begins). I think it has to do with Bane and the Goatse on his face.


No offense, but the Internet has warped your perception. The mask was supposedly inspired by a baboon's snarl, but all you see is some dude's gaping asshole.
 
2012-07-16 08:11:06 PM  
I think they should do a darker, totally farked in the head self-loathing Batman who doesn't kill his opponents because he actually finds the idea of killing sexually arousing, and that drives him to push it right up to the edge without quite reaching climax ... when he beats them within a hair's breadth of death, it's his checking whether he's totally crossed the line-as long as he doesn't get off at he end he still considers himself sane. He just trains relentlessly in order to go out there night after night, tempting fate, teasing himself while hate/loving it ... knowing that the time he goes too far and comes is the night he ends it all.

Also, Robin!

/bat-blueballs
 
2012-07-16 08:40:21 PM  
So, just a thought. When comparing Batman movies, can we stick to the one that AREN'T farkING ANIMATED? Like, I get they exist and all, but they don't get wide movie releases. They made 8 thousand land before time movies too, but only the first one counts. Comparing Heath Ledger to animated characters might be the dumbest thing I can think of.
 
2012-07-16 08:45:35 PM  
I'd like to see an adaptation of Frank Miller's the Dark Knight Returns. As a bonus, it might serve as a starting point for a Superman reboot too.
 
2012-07-16 08:47:21 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: frepnog: mjohnson71: They waited about 20 years between Adam West "Batman" and Michael Keaton "Batman" (at least live-action wise.) That sounds about right.

/And Star Trek should have been given 10 years or so to rest

except that the 2009 movie kicked much ass, and other than Khan is arguably the best of the Trek motion pictures.

1 - sucks.
2 - good, but dated. Ricardo chews much scenery.
3 - just terrible. don't try to defend it. it farking sucks.
4 - watchable, fun, but hardly much of a trek film. (WE HAVE NO BUDGET THEREFORE 80's)
5 - dear god.
6 - oh dear god.
generations - a lousy cop out with one good scene (crashing the enterprise)
first contact - seemed ok until you watch it now. ruins the borg, and every single scene on earth sucks. also, useless black actress.

let's not talk about those last two TNG films.

and then 2009 Star Trek. Great effects. Great story. Great characters fully nailed by young enthusiastic actors. Awesome. Makes the other films on the whole look terrible. yes, lensflare and all, but it really isn't nearly as noticeable as fark makes out. I saw the film in theaters day of release and didnt notice until fark,

Considering that The Undiscovered Country and First Contact were two of the top three of the pre-2009 Star Trek movies, I think it's safe to say that we can completely ignore your opinions entirely. You're a bad person for not liking the same things I like and you should feel bad.

/Also, you didn't notice the lens flare? Seriously? Even my (then) 6 year-old son noticed it. "Dad, why are all the lights on the ship so sparkly?"


Sorry, but I'm in complete agreement with Frepnog. Hated how campy and weird all those old Star Trek movies were, even First Contact is horrible by today's standards, but the 2009 movie hooked me into the franchise.
 
2012-07-16 08:49:20 PM  

bglove25: So, just a thought. When comparing Batman movies, can we stick to the one that AREN'T farkING ANIMATED? Like, I get they exist and all, but they don't get wide movie releases. They made 8 thousand land before time movies too, but only the first one counts. Comparing Heath Ledger to animated characters might be the dumbest thing I can think of.


THIS.

I could give a f*ck about RotJoker or the others. Why don't we compare Ewoks: Caravan of Courage to Empire Strikes Back while we're at it?
 
2012-07-16 08:51:07 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Just checked, and he was also one of the few negative reviews on The Dark Knight also. He said "This movie is too in love with itself to make you love it."


It insists upon itself?
 
2012-07-16 09:19:24 PM  
Just get JJ Abrams to "re-imagine" it.

Bruce Wayne's parents don't die; just get an Indian Rug Burn from mugger. Bruce becomes only slightly emo crimefighter instead.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: HEDGEHOG MAN!!!

When crime rears its ugly head, Hedgehog Man rises to meet the challenge...

... sees his shadow, and another six weeks of crime spree is upon us.
 
2012-07-16 09:22:50 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Just get JJ Abrams to "re-imagine" it.

Bruce Wayne's parents don't die; just get an Indian Rug Burn from mugger. Bruce becomes only slightly emo crimefighter instead.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: HEDGEHOG MAN!!!

When crime rears its ugly head, Hedgehog Man rises to meet the challenge...

... sees his shadow, and another six weeks of crime spree is upon us.


If there ever was a script tailor-made for Joel Schumacher's return,this is it.
 
2012-07-16 09:35:17 PM  

bglove25: So, just a thought. When comparing Batman movies, can we stick to the one that AREN'T farkING ANIMATED? Like, I get they exist and all, but they don't get wide movie releases. They made 8 thousand land before time movies too, but only the first one counts. Comparing Heath Ledger to animated characters might be the dumbest thing I can think of.


You sir are an idiot.
 
2012-07-16 09:39:07 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

//oblig, since people are f*cking white knighting Mask of the Phantasm over this.
 
2012-07-16 09:41:48 PM  

ronin7: bglove25: So, just a thought. When comparing Batman movies, can we stick to the one that AREN'T farkING ANIMATED? Like, I get they exist and all, but they don't get wide movie releases. They made 8 thousand land before time movies too, but only the first one counts. Comparing Heath Ledger to animated characters might be the dumbest thing I can think of.

You sir are an idiot.


Dude, it's like an opinion, man.
 
2012-07-16 10:11:04 PM  

ronin7: bglove25: So, just a thought. When comparing Batman movies, can we stick to the one that AREN'T farkING ANIMATED? Like, I get they exist and all, but they don't get wide movie releases. They made 8 thousand land before time movies too, but only the first one counts. Comparing Heath Ledger to animated characters might be the dumbest thing I can think of.

You sir are an idiot.


Because, despite Batman being my favorite superhero, I don't have time to watch and compare every animated work or comic book that comes out concerning him? Yeah, I guess. But um, none of the voice actors was ever asked to physically portray the Joker. So, its comparing apples and oranges. And kind of dumb. Like, movie fans don't argue whether De Niro or Brando played Vito Corleone better. And if they do, they're missing the goddamn point.

Also, is nerd cred that important that, because our favorite franchises are becoming mainstream, we have to create more obscure stuff to fetishize and argue over?
 
2012-07-16 10:34:07 PM  

bglove25: Because, despite Batman being my favorite superhero, I don't have time to watch and compare every animated work or comic book that comes out concerning him? Yeah, I guess. But um, none of the voice actors was ever asked to physically portray the Joker.


Regardless of not "physiclally portraying him," Mark Hamill is a damn good Joker. And Kevin Conroy frankly the best Batman.
 
2012-07-16 10:48:19 PM  

coeyagi: ronin7: bglove25: So, just a thought. When comparing Batman movies, can we stick to the one that AREN'T farkING ANIMATED? Like, I get they exist and all, but they don't get wide movie releases. They made 8 thousand land before time movies too, but only the first one counts. Comparing Heath Ledger to animated characters might be the dumbest thing I can think of.

You sir are an idiot.

Dude, it's like an opinion, man.


Agrees Abides:
www.pegasusnews.com
 
2012-07-16 10:49:39 PM  
There is simply no disputing that the best Joker of all-time was Boner, from Growing Pains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7d3lIAkes

RIP.
 
2012-07-16 10:52:58 PM  

Supes: bglove25: Because, despite Batman being my favorite superhero, I don't have time to watch and compare every animated work or comic book that comes out concerning him? Yeah, I guess. But um, none of the voice actors was ever asked to physically portray the Joker.

Regardless of not "physiclally portraying him," Mark Hamill is a damn good Joker. And Kevin Conroy frankly the best Batman.


Heck, that might be so. I sure enjoyed the Animated Series growing up. But to me, they are different mediums. Interesting to compare and contrast but impossible to say one is "better" or "best." It's like comparing baseball stats from different eras of the game.
 
2012-07-17 12:04:01 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Fano: Can't beat mask of the phantasm and return of the joker, but we've watched idiots blow billions trying.

The Dark Knight belongs right up there.

/my favorite is still BB: RotJ.


For humoring me, I submit the best death for the "original" Joker
 
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