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(NPR)   Gut bacteria may be the cause of good health and longevity   (npr.org) divider line 62
    More: Ironic, gut bacteria, longevity, long-term care, bacteria, mashed potatoes  
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2012-07-16 01:40:24 PM  
No shiat sherlock.
 
2012-07-16 01:41:02 PM  
FYI

Enteric nervous system

The enteric nervous system has been described as a "second brain".[10] There are several reasons for this. The enteric nervous system can operate autonomously.
 
2012-07-16 02:47:15 PM  
 
2012-07-16 05:29:06 PM  
Lactobacillus yogurti: beneficial and adorable!
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2012-07-16 06:59:35 PM  

Doom MD: BurnShrike: I remember reading an article a while back about... well, basically about eating other people's poop to replace the good bacteria in your intestines. They had a few different ways of doing it, from sucking back a poop milk-shake to swallowing a capsule with poop inside. Apparently some people had trouble with this, so there was a way of doing it from the other end too, although it wasn't as effective (I think they called the procedure a "fecal transplant").

So apparently 2 girls 1 cup is a medical training video.

Fecal transplantation is a theoretical treatment for medically refractory C. Diff infection. It was also featured on an episode of the horrid Gray's anatomy where they did it to a 30 something healthy woman with C. diff thanks to neurotic use of internet purchased antibiotics (without trying any of the actual first-line treatments). iirc, they used her hubby's poop.


Some people, but not all, report seeing a similar "miracle" cure for their Irritable Bowel Syndrome / Crohn's after a fecal transplant from a healthy spouse or child.

In some countries, a fecal transplant is becoming a very common treatment for C. Diffie, instead of antibiotics since it works better.

However, the donor poo has to be tested for communicable diseases just like donor blood must be. Also, they typically either use a feeding tube or an enema to get transplanted poo inside you without you having to taste it.

It's not like that scene in "The Help" where you just eat a big ole slice of pie containing Minnie's shiat.
 
2012-07-16 09:22:29 PM  
Somewhere out there is the one person with the perfect intestinal cocktail, live to 120 while maintaining a clear mind. One day we'll find that person then all of us will eat his or her poop.
 
2012-07-16 11:15:48 PM  

Magorn: clyph: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Take a poop pill? That's disgusting.

Exactly. Not to mention risky. I could see taking a pill with lab-cultured bacteria, that only contains beneficial strains and nothing else. But raw sewage? Even putting aside the yuk factor, there's way too many potential nasties to make that a good idea.

I've also read that intestinal flora have a significant role in obesity.

They make them already. Whenever I've been sick with a fever for a few days or get the sort of food poising that involves vomiting or diahrea (sp?) I make a point of either eating a few cups of yogurt or taking acidophilus pills for a day or two and it seems to do wonders for getting my digestive system back on track.

And when/If scientists isolate the "skinny" (ie less efficient") strains of gut bacteria you can damn sure bet they will become billionaires (even if eating more and getting less useful calories ain't exactly an enviromentally responsible thing to do)


Not only will yogurt with live cultures (and acidophilus milk and acidophilus pills--yes, there is actually a dairy where I live that sells the former as a probiotic milk product) help you out, kimchi also tends to have the same probiotic effects. (Difficulty: If you have Korean taste buds like me, none whatsoever, but I've found that people who don't like kimchi tend to be rather...vehement on the subject.)

I'd imagine fish sauce might have the same effect, but as I've been explicitly forbidden from bringing that foodstuff into the house, haven't had the chance to experiment...so pretty much in my case it's largely yogurt with active cultures after a course of antibiotics, supplemented with small doses of homemade kimchi from the Korean grocery down the road. (Yes, the local good Korean market makes its own kimchi...not just from cabbage, either; "Korean pickles" (kimchi made from cucumber) are pretty darn good too.) Supposedly MOST non-alcoholic fermented foods are pretty good in a probiotic sense as long as there are active cultures involved...

That said--if you can't do dairy and can't stomach kimchi or fish sauce or natto, the pills would work OK :D I just usually go the yogurt and/or kimchi route, but that's personal preference; if I really need a huge extra boost of acidophilus, there's the acidophilus milk I can get, and there's also some Mexican kefir-like product that's pretty much an explicit acidophilus/lactobacillus shot :D

/relevant to my interests, as I'm midway through a course of antibiotics for what was a truly nasty bit of tonsillitis...fortunately not strep, but definitely some sort of hospital crud
//will be farking living on Mexi-kefir and yogurt and kimchi after this is all over with
 
2012-07-16 11:17:29 PM  

dbrunker: Lactobacillus yogurti: beneficial and adorable!
[farm3.staticflickr.com image 500x395]


*squee that breaks the eardrums of rats ensues*

Sorry...I am unreasonably, UNREASONABLY fond of all things Moyasimon and really wish I could find the little bacteria-mon-figures locally :3 (Still have a sad Del Rey never went beyond Volume 2 of the manga :P)
 
2012-07-16 11:54:57 PM  
"Our study found that people able to live independently were healthier than people who weren't".

Really? Of course, the gut bacteria thing is well known and nothing new. While it certainly was likely to be a factor in those studied, the fundamental premise was a wee bit flawed.

70% of your immune system comes from your gut. A majority of illnesses can be avoided by keeping it healthy. Eat some yogurt every day. Different yogurt. Quite a few studies have shown that yogurt that makes no claim to be healthy or full of probiotics often contain MORE healthy bacteria than the ones that tout their probiotic-ness. They also found that every strain each company made was in every type of yogurt made in that factory. So other than avoiding the sugar laden products, vary your purchases and buy on price. A few spoonfuls a day is all you really need.

Sauerkraut, kimchee and other fermented products are also excellent sources of probiotics and very inexpensive.
 
2012-07-17 01:14:00 AM  

Great Porn Dragon:
Sorry...I am unreasonably, UNREASONABLY fond of all things Moyasimon and really wish I could find the little bacteria-mon-figures locally :3 (Still have a sad Del Rey never went beyond Volume 2 of the manga :P)


And here I though, "Aw man... no one's going to know what this is." I'd love to help you out but the best I can do is find Moyasimon merchandise online and you've probably already done that.
 
2012-07-17 11:37:38 PM  

dbrunker: Great Porn Dragon:
Sorry...I am unreasonably, UNREASONABLY fond of all things Moyasimon and really wish I could find the little bacteria-mon-figures locally :3 (Still have a sad Del Rey never went beyond Volume 2 of the manga :P)

And here I though, "Aw man... no one's going to know what this is." I'd love to help you out but the best I can do is find Moyasimon merchandise online and you've probably already done that.


Nothing is obscure on Fark. Nothing. Not even adorable Japanese series about the cutest microbes EVAR (yes, even more so than the Giant Microbes plushies). :D

And yeah, I've had some luck finding stuff online, but even compared to some other series it tends to be difficult...oh, why is it when I REALLY like a series it tends to be difficult to find merch for it?

(And I had no idea that they had a keychain version of the ever-so-polite-and-reserved Lactobacillus yogurti (well, now probably classified as a Japanese cultivar of L. delbrueckii spp, but keep in mind the manga has been published for at least a decade if not more and microbiology likes to rearrange species quite often) existed :D)

At least it IS possible to get the merch for it Stateside sometimes, and I'm STILL impressed Hulu did show the English sub of the live-action series...

(Then again, I'm also waiting for Mononoke to get out of distribution-licensing hell. No, not the Miyazaki movie. The Ayakashi: Samurai Horror Tales spinoff with the colourful apothecary :D)

/then again, was originally attracted to Moyasimon by the general concept of cute microbes
//I tend to read microbiology texts for fun
 
2012-07-18 10:05:44 AM  

Great Porn Dragon:
(And I had no idea that they had a keychain version of the ever-so-polite-and-reserved Lactobacillus yogurti (well, now probably classified as a Japanese cultivar of L. delbrueckii spp, but keep in mind the manga has been published for at least a decade if not more and microbiology likes to rearrange species quite often) existed :D)


It might be one of those... uh... gazpach-... er... gapachika... no it's um... Oh it's one of those old school vending machines that has the plastic balls with a toy in it!
 
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