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(Boston Globe)   Pagan ritual doesn't burn away women's problems, but does burn her house down   ( divider line
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2001-11-16 08:54:34 AM  
Jack Chick warned her.
2001-11-16 09:01:43 AM  
Wasn't this an episode of "Friends"?
2001-11-16 09:04:25 AM  
Well, I bet her other problems seem minor by now. She is also well rid of the problem of having friends who practice Wicca.
2001-11-16 09:06:32 AM  
*note to self, do not smoke crack then attempt to perform Wiccan Rites* GOT IT!!
2001-11-16 09:06:52 AM  
Witch huh? Sure, it's easy to 'cast a spell' on something, then point out every negative aspect as a result of the casting. Like this moron in England that's put a curse on the Harry Potter opening. Oh, and it's working! The kids' voice changed during filming. Oh yeah, there's proven results for you. The worst part is, when Harry Potter breaks all records upon its opening, this guy will find some other benevolent intervention as the reason. Blah, Blah, Blah. More religious clap trap. This woman gets what she deserves.

"Magicians... Pull a 40' pipe out of your ass. Eat a bowl of apples and shiat a fruit salad, to me that's entertainment" - Andrew Dice Clay
2001-11-16 09:27:58 AM  
Well, they burned the paper. And I'm sure it didn't say anything about fire on it, so who's to say her spell didn't work?
I like Wicca. It's the art of causing coincidence. There's no proving that what happens afterwards would've still happened if you didn't do any spells, or if it wouldn't, but that's the whole point of religions. Plus the spells and rituals (which usually are just writing down wishes or whatnot on pieces of paper and burning them) are a lot more fun than praying.
2001-11-16 09:30:37 AM  
"Palmieri, a member of a local Christian church, the Love and Hope Ministries, said she plans to rebuild the home and is through with Wiccan rituals"

If she was a christian, why is she farking around with wiccan shiat?
2001-11-16 09:37:31 AM  
CheekyMonkey: Good question. That witchcraft stuff will burn you every time(no pun intended).
2001-11-16 09:38:02 AM  
after BURNING HER farkING HOUSE DOWN, she still refuses to take responsibility for her own life. Moral: she's still a farking dumbass.
2001-11-16 09:49:15 AM  
2001-11-16 09:53:04 AM  
But now she's just throwing good magic after bad.
2001-11-16 09:59:26 AM  
But the ceremony, in which the Wiccans burned a piece of paper with Palmieri's problems written on it, went awry.

That's also what therapists tell some of their patients to do when they feel overwhelmed by something (such as reoccuring nightmares which start to affect their lives).

underlying message in the story: "Wiccan = bad."
Wonder if her friends were really Wiccan or just some new-age yuppies.

Anyway, a better way to treat pain from a hernia is to go the to doctor and have him fix it. Religion is psychological, but still can't cure a hernia (contrary to Christian Science beliefs)
2001-11-16 09:59:55 AM  
or the pain from the hernia, whatever. same difference.
2001-11-16 10:01:15 AM  
and trying to prove magic does/doesn't work is like trying to prove praying does/doesn't work. Like I said in a previous thread, I could pray to Pan the Goat God (he is my idol), and could find thousands of reasons to support my theory that he exists.
2001-11-16 10:04:47 AM  
I don't have anything wrong with Wicca... but I am developing a very strong stereotype against wiccans. I have YET to meet a single -normal- wiccan. It seems they are all socially dysfunctional people out of touch with reality.
2001-11-16 10:13:58 AM  
Woohoo! Insurance to the rescue!
2001-11-16 10:23:23 AM  
Earth religions are very cool. And much closer to reality than Judeo-Christianity IMHO.

But Wiccans usually get it all wrong, and attract nutballs like this one.

Let me get this straight. She was a member of some weird Christian church, and she had Wiccans perform a "cleansing ritual" at her home? Uh, right.
2001-11-16 11:06:24 AM  
so why is it that this article came out sounding like wicca = bad

rather then stupid lady who doesn't want to take charge of her own life = bad
2001-11-16 11:14:30 AM  
Maybe the house was the source of her problems.

If that's the case, it worked.

2001-11-16 12:04:00 PM  
I wonder if she got the idea from Harry Potter
2001-11-16 12:10:55 PM  
"Hiatal hernia?! We Wiccan's thought you said 'my house, burn it!"
2001-11-16 12:14:55 PM  
How did your house burn down?

I left the coven on.
2001-11-16 12:22:00 PM  
Lol, good one Grivas.
2001-11-16 12:38:06 PM  
All I can say is...she may one day be up for a Darwin Award!
2001-11-16 12:38:12 PM  
THAT is what happens when xtians try and get a favor out of the Godess that they have been pissing of for centuries.

On the other hand, most wiccans (myself included) have a FLAME PROOF BOWL and a LARGE SOURCE OF WATER when burning anything.

Or, another fantastic idea:


-normal, well adjusted pagan, thank you.
2001-11-16 01:00:18 PM  
Yeah, I'm sorry, but most Pagans know that when you deal with fire you get water just in case. Heck, most of us when we set up a circle use water at one of the corners.

These don't sound like real 'Wiccans' to me. They sound like a bunch of women who wanted to try a spell and said...hey since we're doing a spell, that makes us witches. Sort of like my sister-in-law who knows nothing about Wicca, but claims to be one.

Besides that, if this woman was a Christian, why was she doing this in the first place?
2001-11-16 01:09:05 PM  
I'd like to think of it as a hint for her to get the heck outta Wicca. Christianity is MUCH don't need fire for anything. :)
2001-11-16 01:21:47 PM  
Good one Grivas, LOL.

You conjure water when you conjure fire. Balance.

I suspect this story was made up by the church.
2001-11-16 01:33:13 PM  
last I checked, lots of churches burn candles and incense...there's a bit of a fire safety hazard too in Christianity
2001-11-16 01:39:19 PM  
Mac: Yup. Just ask Joan of Arc.
2001-11-16 02:19:14 PM  
This reminds me of a story last night on my local "news". There's a surgeon here in Cincinnati who prays for his patients. They proved last night that it worked because the guy who needed a knee replacement didn't die in surgery. Yeahhhh.

I'm really confused about prayer, anyway. Is God going to change his mind about what's going to happen because somebody prays? I thought He was omniscient. If you're into God and stuff (I'm not), prayers of thanksgiving make sense, but prayers of petition seem pointless to me.
2001-11-16 03:30:56 PM  
Jack Chick warned her.

Yeh get a "Made Afree Laugh Award", thank you, thank you
2001-11-16 04:43:30 PM  
i've always thought prayer was alot like spells....though x-tians would probably want to burn me at the stake for hersay

Its like they take all their energy and send it out there...focusing on that one thought....

course they're focusing on getting someone (or something) else to solve their problem....

okay so I felt like rambling
2001-11-16 04:47:49 PM  
I had a fire once. Wicker burns really fast, being dry wood and all...
2001-11-16 05:09:43 PM  
"Christianity is MUCH don't need fire for anything. . . ."

. . . except for burning witches and other heretics.
2001-11-16 05:11:36 PM  
Oh where to start.......okay, I'll be nice and just make one comment on the story:

"Wicca is the doctrines and practices of witchcraft." is crap. Wicca is a religion, witchcraft is not. One need not practice witchraft in order to be Wiccan.

And by the way, Dahaka, pleased to make your acquaintance - I happen to be a perfectly normal Wiccan, thank you. :)
2001-11-16 10:03:39 PM  
All right, let's stop with the comparison of religions right here.

Everyone one say it with me: MORON!
2001-11-16 10:04:00 PM  
2001-11-16 10:04:39 PM  

That's better, I hope.
2001-11-16 11:21:04 PM  
I said you don't NEED fire. You can have it but you don't NEED it. I don't have candles anywhere in my home.

BTW Wicca is witchcraft. I've done my research. :)
2001-11-17 12:27:10 AM  
Hey lady - next time you could just go see a doctor.


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2001-11-17 12:48:16 AM  
Goddess Dammit!!

This thread is lame.

Wicca Schmicca

Oy Vey, Genug! Leiber Gott im Himmel!
2001-11-17 04:12:38 AM  
I don't trust wiccans, they're shifty.
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