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(Some Guy)   Actually, Mormonism is highly compatible with the GOP's religious devotion to capitalism. In pretty much the same way Liberia is the prototypical Libertarian nation-state   (christianpost.com) divider line 21
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2012-07-16 11:17:07 AM
Well, corporations are people, and Mormons embrace polygamy.
 
2012-07-16 11:17:22 AM
static2.businessinsider.com
 
2012-07-16 11:17:22 AM
I didn't know that the GOP's religious devotion to capitalism requires its adherents to wear special bloomers and not drink beer or coffee.
 
MFL
2012-07-16 11:19:36 AM
So it begins.
 
2012-07-16 11:20:00 AM

MFL: So it begins.


yep
 
2012-07-16 11:20:14 AM

King Something: I didn't know that the GOP's religious devotion to capitalism requires its adherents to wear special bloomers and not drink beer or coffee.


It's cool as long as they're both OK with denying all the dirty secret things they do in truck stop men's rooms.
 
2012-07-16 11:22:10 AM
So, for Romney, withholding his tax returns is actually a religious sacrament.
 
2012-07-16 11:36:30 AM
The base is getting restless. The Elders chose poorly.
 
2012-07-16 11:53:28 AM
The unbridled greed of capitalism: it's OK when we do it!

// so when do they get to the whole "sell all your shiat and come worship" phase?
// seems like "give 10% to charity", to these people, is just another archaic rule with ever more farking loopholes to exploit
 
2012-07-16 11:54:38 AM
This would be the same Mormon Church that pumped millions of campaign dollars into Prop 8 in California? So they want to stick their hands into national politics without getting them dirty?

/boo-hoo
 
2012-07-16 11:59:09 AM

DeltaPunch: This would be the same Mormon Church that pumped millions of campaign dollars into Prop 8 in California? So they want to stick their hands into national politics without getting them dirty?

/boo-hoo


Money is speech my friend.
 
2012-07-16 12:01:27 PM
 
2012-07-16 12:02:10 PM
Mormons who are not in Utah or Idaho tend to be more mainstream and low-key about their Mormonism. Behind the Zion Curtain, however, there's a weird sort of willful blindness to poor business ethics among Mormons. God loves you and will bless you materially (as long as you pay your 10%), so whatever you have to do to other people in the course of getting those material blessings is obviously part of God's plan.

Utah County, the county to the south of Salt Lake, is home to the highest concentration of Mormons in the state, as well as Brigham Young University. It also (in my experience) had the highest concentration of skeevy business deals, multi-level marketing, variations on Ponzi schemes, and the like. I eventually stopped accepting clients from Utah County because I got burned too many times.

Utah County was kind of an ethical Bizarro-world: billboards equating alcohol/tobacco with hard drugs or warning of the horrors of pornography addiction, video stores proudly offering "No R-Rated Videos," and all manner of other moral smugness, but broad tolerance for financial shiftiness of all kinds.

/Maybe they're not so much different than us after all.
 
2012-07-16 12:07:34 PM

Dr Dreidel: The unbridled greed of capitalism: it's OK when we do it!

// so when do they get to the whole "sell all your shiat and come worship" phase?
// seems like "give 10% to charity", to these people, is just another archaic rule with ever more farking loopholes to exploit


My high school Mormon seminary teacher (grew up in small-town Utah where seminary was an elective course in public high school) actually taught us that the rich man getting into heaven as easy as getting a camel through the eye of a needle thing was actually a misinterpretation... according to him, the gate leading into Jerusalem was called The Needle's Eye and to get a camel loaded with treasures through it, a person had to dismount and lead the camel through on its knees.

So rich men can get into heaven if they go through the eye of the needle in a humble fashion... or some crap like that.
 
2012-07-16 12:12:23 PM

Lochsteppe: Utah County was kind of an ethical Bizarro-world: billboards equating alcohol/tobacco with hard drugs or warning of the horrors of pornography addiction, video stores proudly offering "No R-Rated Videos," and all manner of other moral smugness, but broad tolerance for financial shiftiness of all kinds.


Ha... that's where I grew up. Sometimes when I visit family it takes a little while for the natives to register the fact that I'm not one of them anymore and the vile weirdness is on full display. Once they realize I'm an outsider the sudden behavioral shift is jarring.
 
2012-07-16 12:14:03 PM

ToeKnee666: Dr Dreidel: The unbridled greed of capitalism: it's OK when we do it!

// so when do they get to the whole "sell all your shiat and come worship" phase?
// seems like "give 10% to charity", to these people, is just another archaic rule with ever more farking loopholes to exploit

My high school Mormon seminary teacher (grew up in small-town Utah where seminary was an elective course in public high school) actually taught us that the rich man getting into heaven as easy as getting a camel through the eye of a needle thing was actually a misinterpretation... according to him, the gate leading into Jerusalem was called The Needle's Eye and to get a camel loaded with treasures through it, a person had to dismount and lead the camel through on its knees.

So rich men can get into heaven if they go through the eye of the needle in a humble fashion... or some crap like that.


That's an oft-told, well-traveled, well-built pile of steaming bullshiat. I hope both you and your teacher know that.

// really, it's a story some Dominionists made up to not have to deal with the glaring contradiction that passage creates between their religious philosophy and their social philosophy
// actually, it was made up out of whole cloth some time in the 7th century, but the Dominionists have really run with that recently
 
2012-07-16 12:29:22 PM
Glenn Beck seems to be doing pretty good with the religious right.
 
2012-07-16 01:47:15 PM
Call it a character flaw, but I love watching the contortions that southern evangelicals are doing to justify their support of a high level bishop in the Mormon cult. That shiat is fascinating.
 
2012-07-16 02:22:07 PM

ToeKnee666: Lochsteppe: Utah County was kind of an ethical Bizarro-world: billboards equating alcohol/tobacco with hard drugs or warning of the horrors of pornography addiction, video stores proudly offering "No R-Rated Videos," and all manner of other moral smugness, but broad tolerance for financial shiftiness of all kinds.

Ha... that's where I grew up. Sometimes when I visit family it takes a little while for the natives to register the fact that I'm not one of them anymore and the vile weirdness is on full display. Once they realize I'm an outsider the sudden behavioral shift is jarring.


I lived there for a few years. I think this is where I came to the conclusion that I had no desire to work for a mormon again. Even when I was mormon I thought this.
 
2012-07-16 05:49:34 PM
I'm okay with the GOP driving our nation into a Liberian-style kleptocracy. Because apparently they don't recall the grisly end of President Samuel Doe, and I don't want them remembering that until we break in the door and cut their ears off.
 
2012-07-17 01:44:41 AM

Dr Dreidel: ToeKnee666: Dr Dreidel: The unbridled greed of capitalism: it's OK when we do it!

// so when do they get to the whole "sell all your shiat and come worship" phase?
// seems like "give 10% to charity", to these people, is just another archaic rule with ever more farking loopholes to exploit

My high school Mormon seminary teacher (grew up in small-town Utah where seminary was an elective course in public high school) actually taught us that the rich man getting into heaven as easy as getting a camel through the eye of a needle thing was actually a misinterpretation... according to him, the gate leading into Jerusalem was called The Needle's Eye and to get a camel loaded with treasures through it, a person had to dismount and lead the camel through on its knees.

So rich men can get into heaven if they go through the eye of the needle in a humble fashion... or some crap like that.

That's an oft-told, well-traveled, well-built pile of steaming bullshiat. I hope both you and your teacher know that.

// really, it's a story some Dominionists made up to not have to deal with the glaring contradiction that passage creates between their religious philosophy and their social philosophy
// actually, it was made up out of whole cloth some time in the 7th century, but the Dominionists have really run with that recently


Some groups don't really have a choice. FFS, it's the tentpole of Prosperity Gospel.
 
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