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(NBC Latino)   Juan by Juan, more Latinos are placing their elderly relatives into nursing homes   (nbclatino.com) divider line 48
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2012-07-16 11:37:13 AM
They're becoming American.
 
2012-07-16 11:37:36 AM
Ahhh come on, Subby.
 
2012-07-16 11:38:51 AM
ANCHOR GEEZERS!
 
2012-07-16 11:38:53 AM
As long as they allow them to pay for it with a $2.
 
2012-07-16 11:39:25 AM
And they can only communicate with bells.
 
2012-07-16 11:40:20 AM
i51.photobucket.com

Juan on Juan....I wanna play that game tonight.......

/ashamed
 
2012-07-16 11:40:26 AM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-16 11:40:38 AM
Assimilation complete.
 
2012-07-16 11:41:06 AM
Sorry Grandma, families need two incomes now to cover it all. Mortgage, insurance, fuel, groceries, etc. Someday cost of living wont be so much more than average incomes, we're sure. Until then, thank goodness your pension, or medi-caid will cover your living for us.
 
2012-07-16 11:41:46 AM
i22.photobucket.com

"No, no! I'm not intrigued!"
 
2012-07-16 11:42:53 AM
" Better wartch out....next thing you know they'll be like a hunnard of em living in one place!!!"
dba-oracle.com
 
2012-07-16 11:45:05 AM
It's strange seeing people considered first for their race in a way where if they don't live up to stereotypes they are somehow anomalies.

Besides, this read a lot like an advertisement for nursing homes.

The reality is that the economy is a disaster. Our government has spent much more than it has, and this combined with stupid programs has made our country unstable. We are unstable, many can't get jobs, the dollar is losing value in ways the government is not very honest about, and thus people need to save money.

Latinos and everyone else.

So people are saving money.

I'm not saying this as a partisan. The GOP has been ridiculous on spending. The democrats have been ridiculous on spending. We haven't had a balanced budget in generations (and if you think we had one in the 1990s you are mistaken, though that was much better than we are today).

You can't run anything this way.

Until one of the two parties decides to take this problem seriously, we're going to be in decline.

They haven't even passed a budget in years. If I break the law, I go to jail. But the government is required by law to pass a budget and hasn't in years. Where's the penalty for the lawmakers?

Part of the problem is that the prior couple of generations passed the bill for their government on to us. And we're doing the same to our kids and grandkids. And at the same time, we're not as able to care for our parents and grandparents. It's a vicious circle.
 
2012-07-16 11:48:55 AM
images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Ding Ding Ding
 
2012-07-16 11:49:37 AM
Arcanum: It's strange seeing people considered first for their race in a way...............

jaredblakedicroce.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-16 11:49:40 AM
Counter_Intelligent: They're becoming American.

Ha ha, that's what I was thinking. Goodbye family and hello to 50 hour work weeks for both parents.
 
2012-07-16 11:52:02 AM
Ha. Good. Hopefully their nurse will be some methed out yokel from backwoods Alabama, stealing their gilded rosaries for cigarette money.
 
2012-07-16 11:52:12 AM
Who says they don't assimilate?
 
2012-07-16 11:52:30 AM
This guy can solve it!

www.soundonsight.org
 
2012-07-16 11:54:12 AM
t2.gstatic.com

" Joo gots my Queso, niño?!?! "

www.p8tt.org
 
2012-07-16 11:56:38 AM
StrikitRich: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 302x331]

Ding Ding Ding


The only reason I came to this thread.
 
2012-07-16 11:59:07 AM
StrikitRich: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 302x331]

Ding Ding Ding


Winner, winner, Los Pollos Hermanos for dinner
 
2012-07-16 11:59:31 AM
steamingpile: Counter_Intelligent: They're becoming American.

Ha ha, that's what I was thinking. Goodbye family and hello to 50 hour work weeks for both parents.


MY boss just told us we have to put in close to 60 hr weeks!
 
2012-07-16 12:02:18 PM
StrikitRich: Ding Ding Ding

Came for the Breaking Bad reference, leaving satisified
 
2012-07-16 12:13:05 PM
Odd Bird: The only reason I came to this thread.

tomo12144: Winner, winner, Los Pollos Hermanos for dinner

dustman81: Came for the Breaking Bad reference, leaving satisified

I aim to please.
 
2012-07-16 12:15:15 PM
So begins the destruction of the family structure that is key to their success. Why fight them on their level when we can lure them to ours. The face of America may be getting a little more brown but the culture will remain lily white.

I hear they are also getting better at exporting death. These guys are gonna fit right in.
 
2012-07-16 12:19:16 PM
Counter_Intelligent: They're becoming American.

This. Not only are they assimilating to our "screw the old people, let's tuck them away out of sight" way of thinking, but they are being effected by social demands to achieve a certain standard of living that demands more household members work longer hours.

This makes me sad. In the ten years I've worked in long-term care facilities, it's been my experience that Hispanic caregivers are on average more patient, nurturing and respectful of their patients. There's a cultural precedent for caring for and cherishing the old and infirm that I greatly admire.
 
2012-07-16 12:28:46 PM
strangeguitar: [i51.photobucket.com image 200x274]

Juan on Juan....I wanna play that game tonight.......

/ashamed


blog.pennlive.com

Juan...Oh Juan, the only way is Juan.

/not ashamed..cause this is FARKKKKKKK!!!!!
 
2012-07-16 12:36:40 PM
sorry mom, dad, grandma, we just don't have time for this shiat anymore. If you could get a part time job or baby sit or something, that would be one thing, but you have so many doctor visits to get off of work for, so many health issues that make it hard for you to get around, and so much expensive medication to keep up with. Look, the fact is, we can take care of you and take care of us at the same time. Either you're healthy enough to live on your own or you're unhealthy enough to need the kind of care that a family where everyone works (or is trying to) all day can't give you.
 
2012-07-16 12:37:29 PM
I'm here for the reference from season one of The Walking Dead yet too lazy to format the inline image myself via my mobile phone... someone please gratify my ennui with a pic from Vatos
 
2012-07-16 12:44:11 PM
ChipNASA: [dba-oracle.com image 488x352]

The guy on the right is a dead ringer for our IT guy.
 
2012-07-16 12:47:42 PM
dna_level_c: ChipNASA: [dba-oracle.com image 488x352]

The guy on the right is a dead ringer for our IT guy.


Yeah, you *did* read the file name.....(scary)

You should print it and take it to work and give it to him and then get back to us...let us all know how that goes....
/LOL!
 
2012-07-16 12:53:09 PM
Aleph: I'm here for the reference from season one of The Walking Dead yet too lazy to format the inline image myself via my mobile phone... someone please gratify my ennui with a pic from Vatos

Now that unbitten people go Z when they die, that probably didn't work out well for them.

// Never been a fan of that variant of zombies.
 
2012-07-16 12:56:48 PM
Counter_Intelligent: They're becoming American.

Aaaaaand we're done
 
2012-07-16 01:00:48 PM
antron: [i49.tinypic.com image 600x375]

Is that real?
 
2012-07-16 01:02:39 PM
What's the over-under on Latinos no longer being considered a quasi-foreign separate "race" and them just being made fun of like Italian-Americans?

/EYYYYYYYYY, I smacka you face!
 
2012-07-16 01:02:52 PM
Immigrant groups known for taking low-wage jobs are collectively doing well enough now to afford nursing homes for their ailing elderly relatives?

Good for them.
 
2012-07-16 02:12:37 PM
Sad tag.
 
2012-07-16 02:48:47 PM
Counter_Intelligent: They're becoming American.

They are American. That's the great effect of the melting pot.
 
2012-07-16 03:09:22 PM
Moonfisher: Counter_Intelligent: They're becoming American.

This. Not only are they assimilating to our "screw the old people, let's tuck them away out of sight" way of thinking, but they are being effected by social demands to achieve a certain standard of living that demands more household members work longer hours.

This makes me sad. In the ten years I've worked in long-term care facilities, it's been my experience that Hispanic caregivers are on average more patient, nurturing and respectful of their patients. There's a cultural precedent for caring for and cherishing the old and infirm that I greatly admire.


My fiancee and I considered getting a larger place and taking her grandma in when she started having strokes and getting senile, but let's be realistic, it's completely impossible for two people working all day to take care of anyone. So it's either shuffle her to a home for 5-10 hours a day depending on our schedules, or get an in-home nurse that I'd have to trust around way too much stuff, while either way she's soiling herself, combative, won't take her meds, and just wants to go back home alone - I suspect she wants to die there like her husband did. The fact that in the meantime we'd have to basically give up any pretense of having a life is just icing on top. The nursing home is even more expensive, but I can definitely say they take care of her better and more professionally than we ever could. It might be different if we weren't both full time+ or had a big family.

I guess that one of us could quit and put off thinking about buying a house for another decade, but that would be depressing to consider. Most latino men who have wife or kids to take care of the elders also work 60-90 hours a week just to get by, even with spending as little as possible on nothing but necessities and Budweiser, basically sacrificing themselves completely for the sake of their family.

Frankly, after seeing grandma's physical and mental decline, and how much she hates where she is, I think it would be most humane to let her go, but I'm sure not going to say a word about that.
 
2012-07-16 03:11:10 PM
My aunt had to go into a nursing home. At the time, she had great insurance and her and her late husband had invested in annuities which gave her a worth of about $750,000 plus she owned her own home.

The first nursing home almost killed her with abusive staff. We got her out of there and called in the DCF. They raised hell and everyone was fired and a whole new crew installed.

The second home was assisted living and she was there several years in a place that was absolutely wonderful and built to resemble something like a manor house. Their dining room was set up like those you see in fine dining establishments and they even had wait staff in white shirts and black trousers and skirts.

However, she grew too infirm to remain there and was transferred to a full care nursing home, one which has been around for ages, was built back in the early 50's but has been well kept and maintained. The staff is excellent also. The rooms, however, are tiny and need to hold two patients. The place looks like an institution.

The latter place costs $6000 a month. The nicer assisted living facility cost $3000.

Now, her annuities are gone, she sold her house, her savings are gone, her health insurance has refused to cover all of the costs and she is now on Medicare and Medicaid.

Getting old and infirm is a costly thing. She had planned on giving her relatives a nice inheritance upon her death, but now that's long gone. Then again, she's in dementia so she doesn't realize it.

However, she is being well taken care of.

When I visit, I walk down those old style halls, go into her room which is about half the size of the one she had all to herself at the assisted living facility and has another person in it, look at the big but Spartan dining room and decided if I EVER have to go to such a place, I'll blow my head off first.

Luckily, she's non compos mentis [loony] and not that aware of her surroundings.

I take care of my disabled 85 year old Mother and it's a 24/7 job. I've had to get DFHS to provide her with a nursing assistant for a couple of hours a day, several days a week. Mainly to give ME a little rest. I'm disabled and get to try and handle that as well as take care of her. She's terrified of nursing homes so I promised I'd never put her in one.

Luckily, my father was a Postman and joined the Union plus got great Postal Insurance which pays for the majority of her care along with Medicare/Medicaid. Everything transferred to her upon his death years ago.

HOWEVER, years ago, you had a primary physician who took care of you, referring you to specialists only now and then. She has a primary -- and about 5 secondary's along with so many 'as needed' specialists that I lost track of them all.

Her record keeping, which I do, gets complicated at times.
 
2012-07-16 03:12:57 PM
I really admire cultures that respect their elders that much. South America, Asia, and I think parts of Africa seem to have far more admiration for their parents and grandparents than "the West".
The nuclear family with the dad working his single job and the mom staying home to raise the kids really seems like a dream in this age.

Posh Naranek: antron: [i49.tinypic.com image 600x375]

Is that real?


In that Stephen Hawking is sadly almost completely paralyzed and Obama is leaning in to talk to him, yes.
 
2012-07-16 03:15:39 PM
God-is-a-Taco:
The nuclear family with the dad working his single job and the mom staying home to raise the kids really seems like a dream in this age.
.


Err, I forgot the previous sentence. It's shameful in the developed world for two adults to possibly work multiple jobs to not reach the poverty level. What exactly caused this shift?
 
2012-07-16 04:00:03 PM
God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco:
The nuclear family with the dad working his single job and the mom staying home to raise the kids really seems like a dream in this age.
.

Err, I forgot the previous sentence. It's shameful in the developed world for two adults to possibly work multiple jobs to not reach the poverty level. What exactly caused this shift?


My theory is when women entered the work force in huge numbers demand for employees went way down, so wages started going down. That's going to be unpopular, I know, but I really believe it has something to do with it.
 
2012-07-16 04:02:18 PM
Juan by Juan, more Latinos are placing their elderly relatives into nursing homes


RIP - Juan Moore
 
2012-07-16 05:25:26 PM
In this case, maybe it would be better to go back to their homeland and see what's in store for them there.

Why is it America is supposed to support every other county and their inhabitants? How many second/third/forth generation Americans have to work full time jobs and put their parents in nursing homes? I would guess the same percentage.

WHY THE FARK IS THIS A STORY TO BEGIN WITH?

/not trolling
 
2012-07-16 05:58:37 PM
I just wanted to say about the cultures that "respect their elders" as shown by keeping them at home: It reminds me of the Waltons show years ago. I'd be interested in the physical condition and length of home stay typical of elders in some of those societies. It's one thing to have gramps out in the sawmill helping the younger men and grandma stirring things in the kitchen to help the wife....but the extremely frail, hooked-up-to-oxygen, on walkers or in wheelchairs, diapered, memory loss type of extended years of elders in advanced economies are a different challenge. Work is not around the house for most of us to carry on while looking after an elder (who can't participate), the elderly can last more years in bad shape, and there are fewer people in a household. It can amount to far more than offering shelter and companionship, and turn out more like skilled nursing. (My brother is going through this on the other side of the continent right now with my mother).
 
2012-07-16 07:03:57 PM
muck4doo: God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco:
The nuclear family with the dad working his single job and the mom staying home to raise the kids really seems like a dream in this age.
.

Err, I forgot the previous sentence. It's shameful in the developed world for two adults to possibly work multiple jobs to not reach the poverty level. What exactly caused this shift?

My theory is when women entered the work force in huge numbers demand for employees went way down, so wages started going down. That's going to be unpopular, I know, but I really believe it has something to do with it.


muck4doo: God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco:
The nuclear family with the dad working his single job and the mom staying home to raise the kids really seems like a dream in this age.
.

Err, I forgot the previous sentence. It's shameful in the developed world for two adults to possibly work multiple jobs to not reach the poverty level. What exactly caused this shift?

My theory is when women entered the work force in huge numbers demand for employees went way down, so wages started going down. That's going to be unpopular, I know, but I really believe it has something to do with it.


muck4doo: God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco:
The nuclear family with the dad working his single job and the mom staying home to raise the kids really seems like a dream in this age.
.

Err, I forgot the previous sentence. It's shameful in the developed world for two adults to possibly work multiple jobs to not reach the poverty level. What exactly caused this shift?

My theory is when women entered the work force in huge numbers demand for employees went way down, so wages started going down. That's going to be unpopular, I know, but I really believe it has something to do with it.


It's a lot of things. Insurance is more copstly. people don't work at one or two companies their entire career, they job hop, everyone has to own akll kinds of crap these days, and we are all spending so much that both men and women always work. And so forth.

Also taking care of elderly people is not as easy or fun as you think. Situations very wildly, but it isn't uncommon for people to become demented and not know where they are, who their relatives are, or why it's a bad idea to randomly turn the stove on.
 
2012-07-17 03:07:09 PM
whats funny is one of the guys who works here is named juan.. and when ever you call his name he says two
 
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