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(Chicago Trib)   Sixteen year-old forgets that cops have Facebook too and can arrest you if you brag about killing a sixty-two year old man for fun   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 182
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2012-07-15 11:25:13 PM  
I RTFA and all I have to say is: Rot in hell you f*ckers.
 
2012-07-15 11:36:28 PM  
This is..I .... man
 
2012-07-15 11:44:37 PM  
Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.
 
2012-07-16 12:07:46 AM  
Good decision, kids. Enjoy your new digs and getting laid all the time.
 
2012-07-16 12:50:32 AM  
What they did was horrific, but thankfully they're stupid enough to get caught for it. Hopefully the victim's family will get some small amount of closure knowing they'll be rotting in jail for a long, long time.
 
2012-07-16 01:36:46 AM  
Those smug little shiats don't deserve a quick, painless death by lethal injection. Put them in prison for life without the possibility of parole.
 
2012-07-16 01:55:19 AM  
The attack was videotaped on the defendant's cell phone

musta been one giant cell phone.
 
2012-07-16 02:44:20 AM  
At least the idiots did us a favor by telling us who did it...
 
2012-07-16 02:55:40 AM  

Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.


AGREES
i.imgur.com



Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.
 
2012-07-16 03:26:03 AM  

platedlizard: Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES
[i.imgur.com image 641x682]



Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.



So, to summarize, he claimed it was all a joke?
 
2012-07-16 03:27:41 AM  

CavalierEternal: platedlizard: Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES
[i.imgur.com image 641x682]



Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.


So, to summarize, he claimed it was all a joke?



He did indeed. Presumably the gigs and gigs of cp in his computer were also a joke.
 
2012-07-16 03:28:11 AM  
I can't wait for the inevitable crowd of "But they're just KIDS! They didn't know any better! Locking them up is BARBARIC!" folks to find this thread.
 
2012-07-16 03:28:51 AM  
Mara Salvatrucha initiation requirement probably. Remorseless bastards deserve the electric chair.
 
2012-07-16 03:30:54 AM  
Human garbage. The one on the right looked retarded, and I mean that literally.
Why is this becoming so common, teenagers killing the poor and/or homeless?
fark. There never seems to be any sort of relation to the victims, just completely random people beaten and/or killed for fun.

platedlizard:
Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.


Sad and infuriating at the same time.

He should have commissioned someone to draw them together. Black people always look so dignified in anime and manga.
 
2012-07-16 03:33:39 AM  
This made me sad and angry. Just a senseless thing done by stupid young men.

Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.


And that made me glad I found Fark years ago and stopped messing around on 4chan.
 
2012-07-16 03:35:19 AM  

Apos: Mara Salvatrucha initiation requirement probably. Remorseless bastards deserve the electric chair.


second.
 
2012-07-16 03:42:00 AM  
It is a tragedy that these kids fell through the cracks and into the gutter of society.

They knew what they did was wrong, and should now face the consequences of their brutal murder, ending the life of a partially disabled father of 12. Death, or a very long imprisonment where there might be some hope at rehabilitation, are the only appropriate sentences.

/Poor victim's family.
 
2012-07-16 03:44:31 AM  
The poor guy had a lot of kids. No wonder he had to collect cans. Couldn't he have kept his pants on?
 
2012-07-16 03:47:47 AM  
Hey, general prison population: we heard that these two also liked raping and beating 10-year-olds... One can only hope that they go to prison for life and face hell every day. Animals.
 
2012-07-16 03:50:26 AM  
Facebook.

Confirming what everyone already knew: people are dumbfarks.
 
2012-07-16 03:50:45 AM  

platedlizard: Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES
[i.imgur.com image 641x682]



Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.


So whats his Reddit handle?
 
2012-07-16 03:53:39 AM  
So the victim wasn't content to sit on his ass and collect disability. He went out early in the morning to collect cans to support his family. You know what? That's a real man, doing something most would consider dirty or demeaning, because he wanted to take care of his responsibilities.

RIP, real man.

Burn in hell, worthless punks.
 
2012-07-16 03:54:57 AM  

rkallister: Facebook.

Confirming what everyone already knew: people are dumbfarks.


Yup. And the only thing worse than a dumb fark is a sociopathic dumb fark.
 
2012-07-16 03:57:39 AM  
Rot.
 
2012-07-16 04:02:03 AM  
I wonder if the rise in social media has led to a measurable rise in conviction rates? I'm always astonished at the amount of people I see openly discussing buying and selling drugs on Facebook.

/and yeah; these two are clearly psychopaths and should rot in jail.
 
2012-07-16 04:02:32 AM  
I have no words.
 
2012-07-16 04:05:50 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Why is this becoming so common, teenagers killing the poor and/or homeless


It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work

1) the population is bigger now than it was 20 years ago
2) social networking didn't exist 20 years ago.

Bigger population = more total sociopaths
Social networking = sociopaths blogging/tweeting about their sociopathic behavior
 
2012-07-16 04:07:24 AM  

clyph: It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work


Also with the internet everyone can find out about it. If it happened twenty years ago, it might make the local papers, the local news, and that's it. It's like teachers sleeping with students. Or any other of a long list of things.
 
2012-07-16 04:08:34 AM  
Those kids should be farked in the ass, mouth, nostrils, and ears by devils with rusted cans as c*ck rings.
 
2012-07-16 04:12:25 AM  
If Mora had a gun and shot his attackers, we'd be calling him a deranged white-hispanic vigilante wannabe and demanding justice for his unarmed teenage victims.
 
2012-07-16 04:14:36 AM  
I hope they get what they deserve.
 
2012-07-16 04:15:48 AM  

Tatterdemalian: If Mora had a gun and shot his attackers, we'd be calling him a deranged white-hispanic vigilante wannabe and demanding justice for his unarmed teenage victims.


0/10

Weak.

Also, we should have a troll button next to smart and funny.
 
2012-07-16 04:18:49 AM  

clyph: God-is-a-Taco: Why is this becoming so common, teenagers killing the poor and/or homeless

It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work

1) the population is bigger now than it was 20 years ago
2) social networking didn't exist 20 years ago.

Bigger population = more total sociopaths
Social networking = sociopaths blogging/tweeting about their sociopathic behavior


Not to be a coont or anything, but a true sociopath wouldn't have any interest in bragging about breaking societal rules, because sociopaths feel nothing. These kids took pleasure in the act. They probably fit somewhere in the Dark triad.
 
2012-07-16 04:23:00 AM  
this justifies the death penalty for minors.
 
2012-07-16 04:25:07 AM  

Gwyrddu: Tatterdemalian: If Mora had a gun and shot his attackers, we'd be calling him a deranged white-hispanic vigilante wannabe and demanding justice for his unarmed teenage victims.

0/10

Weak.

Also, we should have a troll button next to smart and funny.


Definitely a troll, but Mora might have lived. If lucky, he wouldn't have had to fire a shot. Unlucky and he would've had to shoot one of them. Broke a mirror kicking a black cat out of his path under a ladder unlucky and he would've had the gun wrestled away and used on him, leaving him dead as he is now.

A self defense weapon would've given him at least a chance.
 
2012-07-16 04:26:53 AM  
www.global-air.com

For divorce lawyers, Facebook is tops for online evidence. (new window)
 
2012-07-16 04:27:08 AM  
that headline kept getting darker and darker.
 
2012-07-16 04:30:37 AM  
Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.
 
2012-07-16 04:53:53 AM  

Loaded Six String: Definitely a troll, but Mora might have lived. If lucky, he wouldn't have had to fire a shot. Unlucky and he would've had to shoot one of them. Broke a mirror kicking a black cat out of his path under a ladder unlucky and he would've had the gun wrestled away and used on him, leaving him dead as he is now.

A self defense weapon would've given him at least a chance.


or the assailants could have just ran away and moved on to another target. They were clearly looking for someone weak who wouldn't put up a fight to attack, and would have found a victim eventually.
 
2012-07-16 04:56:24 AM  

Tatterdemalian: If Mora had a gun and shot his attackers, we'd be calling him a deranged white-hispanic vigilante wannabe and demanding justice for his unarmed teenage victims.


Very obvious, but has a lot of bite potential. 6/10
 
2012-07-16 04:57:23 AM  

ThatDarkFellow: Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.


What's next for these two, beating-up 62 yr old women? Six yr old kids? Funny they didn't walk around looking to give a 27 yr old NFL player a beat down. Have fun in PMITA prison, pansies..
 
2012-07-16 05:03:07 AM  

krackpipe: ThatDarkFellow: Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.

What's next for these two, beating-up 62 yr old women? Six yr old kids? Funny they didn't walk around looking to give a 27 yr old NFL player a beat down. Have fun in PMITA prison, pansies..


Well, a 27 year old NFL player is probably walking around with a gun waiting to shoot someone too
 
2012-07-16 05:11:19 AM  
He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he said that he'd never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)

He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he swore that he'll never, never do it again
And of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)

Poor old man
He had an "accident" with a three-bar fire
But that's OK
Because he wasn't very happy anyway
Poor woman
Strangled in her very own bed as she read
But that's OK
Because she was old and she would have died anyway
Don't blame

The sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
Because he'll never, never, never, never, never, never do it again
(not until the next time)
 
2012-07-16 05:11:57 AM  

ThatDarkFellow: Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.


------

I concur. It's what you do with predatory animals, and that's all these scumbags are. Not a shred of humanity left among them.

We need to burn down the prisons in this country and replace them with true rehabilitation facilities for non-violent offenders. The violent offenders would get sent to a Thunderdome-ish facility where food (laced with PCP and bath salts) and fresh weapons get dumped in once a day.
 
2012-07-16 05:16:30 AM  

soundguy: ThatDarkFellow: Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.

------

I concur. It's what you do with predatory animals, and that's all these scumbags are. Not a shred of humanity left among them.

We need to burn down the prisons in this country and replace them with true rehabilitation facilities for non-violent offenders. The violent offenders would get sent to a Thunderdome-ish facility where food (laced with PCP and bath salts) and fresh weapons get dumped in once a day.


I really do wish we had something similar. People who do this kind of garbage need to know the consequence will be swift and SEVERE. You won't get hugs and kisses while you try to jerk the system around with appeals. You were caught on camera murdering a guy. The ONLY control you should have over your own life after that is A) Choosing to die or B) Being shipped off to a cage with other animals, never to be seen again.
 
2012-07-16 05:17:04 AM  
Color me surprised.
 
2012-07-16 05:19:36 AM  

HotWingAgenda: clyph: God-is-a-Taco: Why is this becoming so common, teenagers killing the poor and/or homeless

It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work

1) the population is bigger now than it was 20 years ago
2) social networking didn't exist 20 years ago.

Bigger population = more total sociopaths
Social networking = sociopaths blogging/tweeting about their sociopathic behavior

Not to be a coont or anything, but a true sociopath wouldn't have any interest in bragging about breaking societal rules, because sociopaths feel nothing. These kids took pleasure in the act. They probably fit somewhere in the Dark triad.


Depends on what type of sociopath they are, or even if they are sociopaths or high-functioning psychopaths or if it was a crime of opportunity or even some kind of initiation into a gang. There are a lot of motivators to crime.

Now, if my Law and Order marathons are anything to learn from I would assess that from the limited account of the video, the act of violence was a bonding experience for both of them, but one of them came up with the plan and the other followed. Since it's rare to have two alphas unite, I would also suspect that one is dominant and instructed the beta to participate and film it in order to implicate him or possibly train him. Whoever is the dominant personality also gets off on violence and kept the video as a trophy.
 
2012-07-16 05:29:58 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-16 05:42:46 AM  
Sixteen year-old forgets that cops have Facebook too

Wait until he gets thrown in with the general population in prison. He's not gonna forget where penis goes anytime soon.
 
2012-07-16 05:42:47 AM  

Gwyrddu: Tatterdemalian: If Mora had a gun and shot his attackers, we'd be calling him a deranged white-hispanic vigilante wannabe and demanding justice for his unarmed teenage victims.

0/10

Weak.

Also, we should have a troll button next to smart and funny.


That's what the ignore function is for.
 
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