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(Columbus Dispatch)   This is the story of a man who was denied entry to a nightclub due to his Air Jordans and the newspaper who decided it was worth an article. Tag is for everyone involved   (dispatch.com) divider line 91
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2012-07-15 10:37:42 PM
This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."
 
2012-07-15 11:05:09 PM

BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."


Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.
 
2012-07-15 11:30:02 PM
lets see - earn an honest living and wage? you dont buy $200+ shoes, want to know the ones who do wear it?
edge.ilpvideo.com

This is what happens when the cops says "on the ground now" with guns drawn.
 
2012-07-15 11:32:43 PM
FTA, the bar also bans:
According to the company's website, "Come early and appropriately dressed, i.e., no athletic attire, including jerseys, pants, ball caps must be worn straight forward or straight back, all shirts must have sleeves, no plain white T-shirts, no sagging pants, no holey jeans, and clothing must be clean."

and

For example, baggy apparel is prohibited at BBR. So are Timberland boots, huge logo apparel and jerseys on non-game days.

I'd like to see something in there for the ladies too (I know, Fark is the wrong place to harp on female decency standards), but I'm okay with this. They probably went based on more than the Air Jordans, but if that's the only way to keep trashy people from wrecking nice things, then I'm all for it.

/Trash took away my favorite clubs
//Guess
 
2012-07-15 11:33:02 PM
arch.413chan.net
 
2012-07-15 11:34:39 PM

And I bet the dude wearing the Air Jordans insisted that the club needed more pictures of Famous African Americans on the walls.


img37.imageshack.us


/Damn man, you might as well throws them shiats out! Them shiats is broke!

 
2012-07-15 11:36:57 PM
Why is this news?.
 
2012-07-15 11:39:04 PM

BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."


Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?
 
2012-07-15 11:41:41 PM
"We were looking at other people's feet with unkempt sneakers and people with flip-flops and no socks,"

Heaven forbid someone would wear flip-flops without socks.
 
2012-07-15 11:43:03 PM

FTFA: According to the company's website, "Come early and appropriately dressed, i.e., no athletic attire, including jerseys, pants, ball caps must be worn straight forward or straight back, all shirts must have sleeves, no plain white T-shirts, no sagging pants, no holey jeans, and clothing must be clean."

i5.photobucket.com
STOP DRESSING LIKE A NUBIAN, ASSHOLE!
 
2012-07-15 11:43:53 PM

numbone: "We were looking at other people's feet with unkempt sneakers and people with flip-flops and no socks,"

Heaven forbid someone would wear flip-flops without socks.


What kind of Philistine wears flip-flops without socks?
 
2012-07-15 11:43:54 PM

FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?


Salt Lake City?
 
2012-07-15 11:45:41 PM

Mark Galvan: FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?

Salt Lake City?


I want to say it was somewhere in North Carolina. Maybe Asheville. I remember being surprised because I had heard Asheville was really cool.
 
2012-07-15 11:49:44 PM

vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.


And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.
 
2012-07-15 11:49:53 PM
As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.
 
2012-07-15 11:50:12 PM
Dress codes. How do they work?
 
2012-07-15 11:53:16 PM
"We have a business plan and demographic of clientele that we shoot for," Mercer said. "Each venue caters to a different demographic, so we try to keep the (clients) as comfortable as possible so those people don't feel threatened."

A good example of how the free market is a hopeless bigot.
 
2012-07-15 11:54:58 PM

foo monkey: Dress codes. How do they work?


Clubs are now denying people admission on what they wear?!? Unfarkingbelievable!
 
2012-07-15 11:55:48 PM
Tag also applies to the admin who greenlighted this and me, for clicking on it.
 
2012-07-15 11:57:46 PM
Hate to say it, but a local hall here in Dull Youth Minnesnowta has a big giant poster on the wall of HOUSE RULES that are all "anti-thug", they even went so far as to remove all readily accessible hip-hop off the juke (you can still super search, but them shiats are 'spensive), and jack the price on Hennessy...it's sad because it worked; violence is down and the womens aren't afraid to go in there again, but for the two other dudes in my neck of the woods who are actually on this site, I warn you, West Duluth chicks...amirite?
 
2012-07-15 11:58:28 PM
POOL hall

/proofread? th' fark is that?
 
2012-07-15 11:58:37 PM
Looks like it got resolved peacefully since he pointed out that the place wasn't even maintaining its own standards.
 
2012-07-15 11:59:19 PM
Did a retarded 2nd grader write this headline?
 
2012-07-15 11:59:24 PM
*an

/there, I said it
 
2012-07-16 12:00:06 AM

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.


Find a way to call them out on it with the law and smite them in court.
 
2012-07-16 12:01:23 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.

And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.


Because he's too black to be inside the Jordans. Or the club.

Seriously, when did Air Jordans become a badge of mental thuggery? Are they assuming that no thugs would be wearing a three-piece suit and wingtips? Cuz they're due for a big shock if so.
 
2012-07-16 12:03:30 AM
This is why, today and back when I was a much younger man, I go to bars and not clubs.
 
2012-07-16 12:04:53 AM
Not unusual that clubs have dress codes to keep the gang bangers out. No one wants to go to a club where its gang-banger thugs all around
 
2012-07-16 12:04:53 AM

Gyrfalcon: Seriously, when did Air Jordans become a badge of mental thuggery? Are they assuming that no thugs would be wearing a three-piece suit and wingtips? Cuz they're due for a big shock if so.


i45.tinypic.com

Now, shall we discuss the terms by which I will enter your establishment?
 
2012-07-16 12:05:57 AM

Shmopee: and jack the price on Hennessy


That seriously makes a difference to people?

I'm not a big fan of brandies -- cognacs or otherwise -- so it just boggles the mind that someone would care so much about that particular spirit that its expense would drive them away.

Is there something special about Hennessy?
 
2012-07-16 12:07:19 AM
biobreak.files.wordpress.com

We don't serve their kind here
 
2012-07-16 12:08:22 AM

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.




I'd be curious what the crime/police call statistics are locally for this group of clubs with high standards vs. those that normally allow 'athletic attire'. If the stats are lower for the high standard clubs, well, it is what it is.
 
2012-07-16 12:11:20 AM

Mark Galvan: FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?

Salt Lake City?


No more ridiculous membership rules here in SLC.
 
2012-07-16 12:11:44 AM

sethstorm: Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.

Find a way to call them out on it with the law and smite them in court.


I suspect that this might be what's going on with this article. The guy goes to the paper first, draws out other stories from other people, (look at the article comments on the Dispatch's site) then goes for the "kill."
 
2012-07-16 12:13:05 AM

eraser8: Shmopee: and jack the price on Hennessy

That seriously makes a difference to people?

I'm not a big fan of brandies -- cognacs or otherwise -- so it just boggles the mind that someone would care so much about that particular spirit that its expense would drive them away.

Is there something special about Hennessy?


Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society. Before then you could barely move the stuff; it was for the supper club set. It was already a good name in cognac but when club owners discovered you could serve it straight for five times what a snifter was running before it was a goldmine.
 
2012-07-16 12:16:19 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society.


I haven't been asleep. I just 1) don't know anyone who drinks it and 2) don't pay attention to what rappers are interested in.
 
2012-07-16 12:17:38 AM

adeist69: Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.



I'd be curious what the crime/police call statistics are locally for this group of clubs with high standards vs. those that normally allow 'athletic attire'. If the stats are lower for the high standard clubs, well, it is what it is.


Oh, I have no problem with a real dress code that is enforced uniformly. Dress code says "no athletic apparel," then don't let anyone in who's wearing athletic apparel. But this place's real dress code has more to do with what color the person's birthday suit is. Sure, if a white guy shows up obviously dressed in a manner that flouts the code, they'll keep him out. But I guarantee you that if a nicely dressed white guy showed up with Jordans on, he'd be let in. And the guy in the article? If he'd had "acceptable" shoes on, the doorman would have found something else to keep him out.
 
2012-07-16 12:20:31 AM

twiztedjustin: Did a retarded 2nd grader write this headline?


It's the Dispatch, so, yes.
 
2012-07-16 12:24:03 AM
When I was in Manchester I had the doorman at some basement dive deny me entry because of my sneakers. He said "No trainers" and it took a few back and forths before I even knew what he was talking about. I said "Fine, whatever" and started walking away but he called me back, apparently changing his mind about letting me in. Maybe because I'm white. Or American.

/csb
 
2012-07-16 12:37:04 AM
FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?
 
2012-07-16 12:38:05 AM

eraser8: Ken VeryBigLiar: Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society.

I haven't been asleep. I just 1) don't know anyone who drinks it and 2) don't pay attention to what rappers are interested in.


To be honest, it disappoints me that the new trend in drinking is to the expensive stuff or the bottle service. Bar markups are already insane; it's simply throwing money away at that level.
 
2012-07-16 12:39:59 AM

LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?


If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:14 AM
Eh, I'm a pretty vanilla white guy and have been turned away from bars before because of my shoes. It sucks, but that's how it is. On the plus side, it saved me from a brawl that happened shortly thereafter when some guy flipped out and started throttling his girlfriend on the dance floor.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:29 AM

Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.


Timberlands have been a rapper thing for a long time. My earliest recollection of Timberlines in a rap song goes back to the early '90s.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:49 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.

And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.


And that's fine with me. The bar can discriminate and they can lose or gain business accordingly. Why would someone want to go where they're not wanted anyway? If someone wouldn't let me into a bar because of my shoes, I probably wouldn't want to go there anymore. Seems like a problem that solves itself instantly.
 
2012-07-16 12:51:36 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society. Before then you could barely move the stuff; it was for the supper club set. It was already a good name in cognac but when club owners discovered you could serve it straight for five times what a snifter was running before it was a goldmine.


Unfortunately, the insane markups hit other popular Cognacs as well as people looked for even more cachet; in my case Remy was my go-to drink back in the day. I still have it occasionally, but the price jumps pushed me to explore Scotch, which more than makes up for the loss.
 
2012-07-16 01:01:06 AM
 
2012-07-16 01:01:32 AM

LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?


Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.


latinobenzo.files.wordpress.com

Uh... Timberlands and hip hop go back a few years now... Why do you think there a record producer who calls himself Timbaland?

/Not sayin' it ain't still racist
 
2012-07-16 01:16:51 AM

Now I Is!: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.

[latinobenzo.files.wordpress.com image 450x661]

Uh... Timberlands and hip hop go back a few years now... Why do you think there a record producer who calls himself Timbaland?

/Not sayin' it ain't still racist


Yes, but they make legitimate outdoor apparel, designed for people smart enough to tie their shoes. You just can't say the same for say, FUBU.
 
2012-07-16 01:17:54 AM

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.


This. That's all the dress codes at these wanna-be guido joints have ever been. Just more of that good ol' midwestern racist hospitality.
 
xcv
2012-07-16 01:18:59 AM
I barely recall some alt-paper approaching a series of the most hyped, exclusive clubs using a set of stereotypes: a nerdy-looking, young white guy, a hot chick and a middle aged, white businessman. The nerd almost always got rejected admittance. The young woman got into a couple clubs but was also denied several times, the older guy in the suit and carrying a briefcase was allowed in everywhere, with bottle service expected by the staff.
 
2012-07-16 01:21:10 AM
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clubs would outlaw these for similar reasons 20 years ago, except it was skinheads, punks and mods back then
 
2012-07-16 01:29:52 AM

Aloy: Now I Is!: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.

[latinobenzo.files.wordpress.com image 450x661]

Uh... Timberlands and hip hop go back a few years now... Why do you think there a record producer who calls himself Timbaland?

/Not sayin' it ain't still racist

Yes, but they make legitimate outdoor apparel, designed for people smart enough to tie their shoes. You just can't say the same for say, FUBU.


Yeah, you know how those people are with tricky things like that.
 
xcv
2012-07-16 01:29:54 AM

American Decency Association: [i.ebayimg.com image 300x300]

clubs would outlaw these for similar reasons 20 years ago, except it was skinheads, punks and mods back then


I thought it was to prevent people from kicking each other with steel toes?

/Weren't Timberlands really popular in the gay community long before rappers adopted them?
 
2012-07-16 01:33:33 AM
Good luck to pussyboy doorman if he tried to tell me what to wear.
 
2012-07-16 01:39:08 AM
FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?

The bar was for members only. Did they have jackets?
 
2012-07-16 02:03:52 AM

Buffet: Good luck to pussyboy doorman if he tried to tell me what to wear.


you must be a certified ITG.
 
2012-07-16 02:12:39 AM

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.


Good.
 
2012-07-16 02:22:34 AM

wedun: Buffet: Good luck to pussyboy doorman if he tried to tell me what to wear.

you must be a certified ITG.


No, you might not be familiar with modern etiquette but you are supposed to always act entitled and take your frustrations on someone that is doing their job. Always take things personally and berate employees that are doing the job they were hired to do. It is considered bad form to disregard dress codes if you want to walk into a high end club in shorts and flip flops. Finally never voice your concerns to the actual decision makers in management when you feel slighted.
 
2012-07-16 02:33:59 AM
About ten years ago in Des Moines, a similar incident occurred in a Des Moines night club. The important difference was that it was a wounded vet denied entrance.

He had lost both legs below the knee and had temporary prosthetics. The only shoes that would fit the prosthetics were a particular brand of athletic shoes, I can't recall the brand. He was denied admission due to the shoes.

It made no difference that he showed them his military ID and the prosthetic legs and explained these were the only shoes that fit. "Rules are rules," he was told. No admission.

It made the paper the next day or so. The bad publicity did in the night club. It soon was out of business.
 
2012-07-16 02:42:58 AM

rmoody: This. That's all the dress codes at these wanna-be guido joints have ever been. Just more of that good ol' midwestern racist hospitality.


HEY! As as lifelong Midwest resident, I am...

er...

ah dammit, you're right. I hate this place so much.


Aulus: It made the paper the next day or so. The bad publicity did in the night club. It soon was out of business.


imokaywiththis.jpg
 
2012-07-16 03:23:49 AM

FishyFred: Mark Galvan: FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?

Salt Lake City?

I want to say it was somewhere in North Carolina. Maybe Asheville. I remember being surprised because I had heard Asheville was really cool.


It was NC, but not Asheville. It was in Raleigh. here's an article on it, but there were others in Jezebel and the like
 
2012-07-16 03:25:55 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.

And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.


Well, first of all any policy is discriminatory. That's what discimination is. Deciding you want this but you don't want that. And back in the day people were described in a positive manner as having "discriminating tastes."

But back to the topic at hand. You're not viewing the policy fairly. It sounds like this bar has had a problem with gang fights in the past. You know how some clubs do metal detectors and some clubs don't? Well, you can thank gangs being idiots at clubs for that.

So they decided to ban the clothes that are associated with gang members. And guess what gang members love to wear? Air Jordans. Sneakers aren't associated with gang members. A lot of people wear sneakers. It's a common thing. But air jordans, at a freaking club, that is much, much, much more likely to be worn by a gang member.

Viewed in this light, this "discrimination" must be applauded. The patrons are kept safe from needless and stupid gang violence. The club gets more money because the club doesn't have to be shut down for a week after every shooting. And the club doesn't get sued into oblivion. Everybody wins. The only people that don't are gang members, and people stupid enough to think it's appropriate to EVER wear air jordans to a club. (Because it's not appropriate, not ever.)
 
2012-07-16 03:45:12 AM
When the ACLU says you have no case you need to take a step back and evaluate things.
 
2012-07-16 07:03:40 AM
That's CMH. A Turd sandwich any way you look at it.

Thug upset that his thugshoes get him labeled as a thug. Nightclub has stupid rule. City is retarded all around. Turd sammich.

I can't wait for the change, so that we can burn it down and start anew.
 
2012-07-16 07:11:41 AM
Can people really not separate race from culture? This isn't OMG RACISMS!, it's anti thug culture. It's keeping out a culture that glorifies violence and failure. Just because the majority of people who live by this culture don't look like Eminem doesn't make it OMG RACISMS!

My town did something similar and had the same race card playing hand wringers. They didn't have any comment a year later when crime in the bars with the no thugwear dress code went down drastically. Now there's a club that's basically the opposite. You can't get in unless you're wearing Jordan's, a sports jersey and sideways hat. This club is the constant source of violent fights / stabbings etc. and has numerous police officers outside at all times. Most evenings, at closing time, half the police force has to show up to keep the peace on the sidewalk when the wannabe "gang" fights break out between rival "rappers" or some other nonsense.

Remember boys and girls, dressing a certain way means something...

teawithoutsugar.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-16 07:19:11 AM

Silly Jesus: Can people really not separate race from culture? This isn't OMG RACISMS!, it's anti thug culture. It's keeping out a culture that glorifies violence and failure. Just because the majority of people who live by this culture don't look like Eminem doesn't make it OMG RACISMS!

My town did something similar and had the same race card playing hand wringers. They didn't have any comment a year later when crime in the bars with the no thugwear dress code went down drastically. Now there's a club that's basically the opposite. You can't get in unless you're wearing Jordan's, a sports jersey and sideways hat. This club is the constant source of violent fights / stabbings etc. and has numerous police officers outside at all times. Most evenings, at closing time, half the police force has to show up to keep the peace on the sidewalk when the wannabe "gang" fights break out between rival "rappers" or some other nonsense.

Remember boys and girls, dressing a certain way means something...

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what's your stormfront handle?
 
2012-07-16 07:22:55 AM

Silly Jesus: Can people really not separate race from culture? This isn't OMG RACISMS!, it's anti thug culture. It's keeping out a culture that glorifies violence and failure. Just because the majority of people who live by this culture don't look like Eminem doesn't make it OMG RACISMS!

My town did something similar and had the same race card playing hand wringers. They didn't have any comment a year later when crime in the bars with the no thugwear dress code went down drastically. Now there's a club that's basically the opposite. You can't get in unless you're wearing Jordan's, a sports jersey and sideways hat. This club is the constant source of violent fights / stabbings etc. and has numerous police officers outside at all times. Most evenings, at closing time, half the police force has to show up to keep the peace on the sidewalk when the wannabe "gang" fights break out between rival "rappers" or some other nonsense.

Remember boys and girls, dressing a certain way means something...

[teawithoutsugar.files.wordpress.com image 460x448]


No. Fark no, man. I'm sure you've read a comment page before.
 
2012-07-16 07:27:00 AM
Bouncers tend not to stop people because of any particular article of clothing. They tend to give you the once over, spot a troublemaker then use `dress code` as a reason to not let the troublemaker into the club.

This guy has proven them right, he has caused trouble.

One more point. you do not have a right to enter a private building, you are given permission by the bouncer so if he stops you at the door you have not had anything taken from you or your rights abused in any way.
 
2012-07-16 07:31:19 AM
FTA "It's the doorman's discretion to let everyone in," Mercer said. "It's kind of a case-by-case scenario."
 
2012-07-16 07:42:16 AM

Greek: adeist69: Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.



I'd be curious what the crime/police call statistics are locally for this group of clubs with high standards vs. those that normally allow 'athletic attire'. If the stats are lower for the high standard clubs, well, it is what it is.

Oh, I have no problem with a real dress code that is enforced uniformly. Dress code says "no athletic apparel," then don't let anyone in who's wearing athletic apparel. But this place's real dress code has more to do with what color the person's birthday suit is. Sure, if a white guy shows up obviously dressed in a manner that flouts the code, they'll keep him out. But I guarantee you that if a nicely dressed white guy showed up with Jordans on, he'd be let in. And the guy in the article? If he'd had "acceptable" shoes on, the doorman would have found something else to keep him out.


Bullsh*t, I was once told I couldn't wear my hat at the Jillian's in Boston and that place is behind farking fenway! Another buddy of ours was told he couldn't come in later that week because his shoes were dirty, in his defense he was our cable puller and only had one pair of shoes. We just asked where the nearest store was and bought him new shoes.

Dress codes are there to keep out a type of person that is more likely to cause trouble, I would put money on clubs that have dress codes have less of an issue.
 
2012-07-16 08:07:46 AM

wedun: Silly Jesus: Can people really not separate race from culture? This isn't OMG RACISMS!, it's anti thug culture. It's keeping out a culture that glorifies violence and failure. Just because the majority of people who live by this culture don't look like Eminem doesn't make it OMG RACISMS!

My town did something similar and had the same race card playing hand wringers. They didn't have any comment a year later when crime in the bars with the no thugwear dress code went down drastically. Now there's a club that's basically the opposite. You can't get in unless you're wearing Jordan's, a sports jersey and sideways hat. This club is the constant source of violent fights / stabbings etc. and has numerous police officers outside at all times. Most evenings, at closing time, half the police force has to show up to keep the peace on the sidewalk when the wannabe "gang" fights break out between rival "rappers" or some other nonsense.

Remember boys and girls, dressing a certain way means something...

[teawithoutsugar.files.wordpress.com image 460x448]

what's your stormfront handle?


Yes, citing facts makes me a racist. Excellent argument, chap.
 
2012-07-16 08:16:23 AM
stops the trouble
 
2012-07-16 08:28:59 AM
And yet, Subtard felt the article was worthy of Fark
 
2012-07-16 08:53:26 AM

LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?


It is to prevent this look: 4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-16 09:27:04 AM

Buffet: Good luck to pussyboy doorman if he tried to tell me what to wear.



So in that case you intend to commit a crime on his person? Then you deserve to banned from everywhere.
 
2012-07-16 10:19:28 AM

neongoats: That's CMH. A Turd sandwich any way you look at it.

Thug upset that his thugshoes get him labeled as a thug. Nightclub has stupid rule. City is retarded all around. Turd sammich.

I can't wait for the change, so that we can burn it down and start anew.


Ah, yes, the old, "I ain't racist, I'm just saying there's good ones and there's bad ones".
 
2012-07-16 10:25:16 AM
"sorry sir, no sneakers allowed"

"MAN, dese aint just sneekas, dese is air jawdins! don't you know how much day cost?"

"yes I am aware that they cost well over 200 dollars but you should have used some of that money for pants, and a shirt as they are also required to get in as well as proper foot attire. NEXT!"

and another sad naked man with air jordans, walks away.

/also discuss with Ron White how you can be THROWN out of a bar because of a hat in NYC.
 
2012-07-16 10:37:15 AM
A lot of the clubs and bars I worked at in DC had rules like this and most of them enforced it for everyone no matter the color, because if you had a stabbing or shooting at your place you might as well shut it down because the DC liqour board would yank your license. I even had people I work with show up at the office and I would tell them they wont get in with what they are wearing and they ignored me, so they either had to take the metro back or wait in the car.

But really sandles with socks? What is this an old Florida retiree bar?
 
2012-07-16 10:49:20 AM
Having a dress code is one thing... Getting nit-picky with specific brands of footwear, known to be popular with black people, is most likely just a way for the bar to get away with racial profiling.
 
2012-07-16 11:10:22 AM

Mississippi Hippie: Having a dress code is one thing... Getting nit-picky with specific brands of footwear, known to be popular with black people, is most likely just a way for the bar to get away with racial profiling.


It's considered part of the uniform for a violent culture (thug/rap/gang...whatever you want to call it). They are popular with the people who identify with that culture. There's a difference between that and race. They probably wouldn't let Eminem in either.
 
2012-07-16 11:24:43 AM
Silver is discovered in Arizona. Tombstone becomes queen of the boom towns where the latest Pairs fashions are sold from the backs of wagons. Attracted to this atmosphere of greed, over 100 exiled Texas outlaws band together to form the ruthless gang recognized by the red sashes they wear. They emerge as the earliest example of organized crime in America. They call themselves, The Cowboys.
 
2012-07-16 11:34:30 AM

Mississippi Hippie: Having a dress code is one thing... Getting nit-picky with specific brands of footwear, known to be popular with black people, is most likely just a way for the bar to get away with racial profiling.


You are the one being racist, I know plenty of white kids who dress like that and are just as scumbaggy and prone to violence.

When its proven a certain style identifies it then banning that style fixes the problem. A bar near us used to have issues with fights most weekends, well they ended up banning straight brimmed hats(I know, sounds dumb to me too) and the next weekend the only fights they had were the people getting mad because they couldn't get in. Cops arrested 4 people, found numerous weapons, and even a gun.

Its not racist when its a fact.
 
2012-07-16 12:50:04 PM

rmoody: neongoats: That's CMH. A Turd sandwich any way you look at it.

Thug upset that his thugshoes get him labeled as a thug. Nightclub has stupid rule. City is retarded all around. Turd sammich.

I can't wait for the change, so that we can burn it down and start anew.

Ah, yes, the old, "I ain't racist, I'm just saying there's good ones and there's bad ones".


wow, you are scraping the barrel, maybe a real racist will turn up and you can rail aginst them. Try youtube...

Banning types of shoes is not racist unless you are born with them. Banning people with brown skin is racist, banning people with brown shoes is not. Remember, you can go home and change your shoes, you can`t go home and change your skin or your sex.

Was the guy ethnic? Larry Chatman doesn`t sound ethnic, neither does Shannon Brant. Why has this turned into a racism thing? Are people suggesting that to be a thug you must be not white?
 
2012-07-16 12:51:13 PM

Mississippi Hippie: Having a dress code is one thing... Getting nit-picky with specific brands of footwear, known to be popular with black people, is most likely just a way for the bar to get away with racial profiling.


Maybe black people should have more diversity.....
 
2012-07-16 12:53:35 PM

rmoody: neongoats: That's CMH. A Turd sandwich any way you look at it.

Thug upset that his thugshoes get him labeled as a thug. Nightclub has stupid rule. City is retarded all around. Turd sammich.

I can't wait for the change, so that we can burn it down and start anew.

Ah, yes, the old, "I ain't racist, I'm just saying there's good ones and there's bad ones".


I would apply that to white, black, red, yellow, blue, whatever turd admixture you are, etc. There are good PEOPLE and bad PEOPLE.

Stop watching Scarface on repeat, put away the thug life uniform and then go to the club. Dick.
 
2012-07-16 01:54:16 PM

Mississippi Hippie: Having a dress code is one thing... Getting nit-picky with specific brands of footwear, known to be popular with black people, is most likely just a way for the bar to get away with racial profiling.


Bars can cut you off for any reason in most states. Some choose to do it before you even get to the door.
 
2012-07-16 02:16:47 PM
Man, some people in Ohio obviously are still pissed off about this:

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//obvious
 
2012-07-16 05:08:16 PM

Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.


You guys just now heard of Timberlands and rap!?!? Wait until you hear them talk about weed and expensive booze!
 
2012-07-16 05:55:06 PM

Silly Jesus: wedun: Silly Jesus: Can people really not separate race from culture? This isn't OMG RACISMS!, it's anti thug culture. It's keeping out a culture that glorifies violence and failure. Just because the majority of people who live by this culture don't look like Eminem doesn't make it OMG RACISMS!

My town did something similar and had the same race card playing hand wringers. They didn't have any comment a year later when crime in the bars with the no thugwear dress code went down drastically. Now there's a club that's basically the opposite. You can't get in unless you're wearing Jordan's, a sports jersey and sideways hat. This club is the constant source of violent fights / stabbings etc. and has numerous police officers outside at all times. Most evenings, at closing time, half the police force has to show up to keep the peace on the sidewalk when the wannabe "gang" fights break out between rival "rappers" or some other nonsense.

Remember boys and girls, dressing a certain way means something...

[teawithoutsugar.files.wordpress.com image 460x448]

what's your stormfront handle?

Yes, citing facts makes me a racist. Excellent argument, chap.


Facts? Well see facts can be checked, so if you're stating facts, why not give the name of your town and the names of the bars involved. I'll be happy to check your facts for you.
 
2012-07-16 09:34:05 PM
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Silly Jesus: wedun: Silly Jesus: Can people really not separate race from culture? This isn't OMG RACISMS!, it's anti thug culture. It's keeping out a culture that glorifies violence and failure. Just because the majority of people who live by this culture don't look like Eminem doesn't make it OMG RACISMS!

My town did something similar and had the same race card playing hand wringers. They didn't have any comment a year later when crime in the bars with the no thugwear dress code went down drastically. Now there's a club that's basically the opposite. You can't get in unless you're wearing Jordan's, a sports jersey and sideways hat. This club is the constant source of violent fights / stabbings etc. and has numerous police officers outside at all times. Most evenings, at closing time, half the police force has to show up to keep the peace on the sidewalk when the wannabe "gang" fights break out between rival "rappers" or some other nonsense.

Remember boys and girls, dressing a certain way means something...

[teawithoutsugar.files.wordpress.com image 460x448]

what's your stormfront handle?

Yes, citing facts makes me a racist. Excellent argument, chap.

Facts? Well see facts can be checked, so if you're stating facts, why not give the name of your town and the names of the bars involved. I'll be happy to check your facts for you.



We get it squirrelly. You aren't a racist. And to see things differently from you makes one so.

/are you sure you aren't just a little racist?
 
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