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(Columbus Dispatch)   This is the story of a man who was denied entry to a nightclub due to his Air Jordans and the newspaper who decided it was worth an article. Tag is for everyone involved   (dispatch.com ) divider line
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2012-07-15 10:37:42 PM  
This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."
 
2012-07-15 11:05:09 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."


Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.
 
2012-07-15 11:30:02 PM  
lets see - earn an honest living and wage? you dont buy $200+ shoes, want to know the ones who do wear it?
edge.ilpvideo.com

This is what happens when the cops says "on the ground now" with guns drawn.
 
2012-07-15 11:32:43 PM  
FTA, the bar also bans:
According to the company's website, "Come early and appropriately dressed, i.e., no athletic attire, including jerseys, pants, ball caps must be worn straight forward or straight back, all shirts must have sleeves, no plain white T-shirts, no sagging pants, no holey jeans, and clothing must be clean."

and

For example, baggy apparel is prohibited at BBR. So are Timberland boots, huge logo apparel and jerseys on non-game days.

I'd like to see something in there for the ladies too (I know, Fark is the wrong place to harp on female decency standards), but I'm okay with this. They probably went based on more than the Air Jordans, but if that's the only way to keep trashy people from wrecking nice things, then I'm all for it.

/Trash took away my favorite clubs
//Guess
 
2012-07-15 11:33:02 PM  
arch.413chan.net
 
2012-07-15 11:34:39 PM  

And I bet the dude wearing the Air Jordans insisted that the club needed more pictures of Famous African Americans on the walls.


img37.imageshack.us


/Damn man, you might as well throws them shiats out! Them shiats is broke!

 
2012-07-15 11:36:57 PM  
Why is this news?.
 
2012-07-15 11:39:04 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."


Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?
 
2012-07-15 11:41:41 PM  
"We were looking at other people's feet with unkempt sneakers and people with flip-flops and no socks,"

Heaven forbid someone would wear flip-flops without socks.
 
2012-07-15 11:43:03 PM  

FTFA: According to the company's website, "Come early and appropriately dressed, i.e., no athletic attire, including jerseys, pants, ball caps must be worn straight forward or straight back, all shirts must have sleeves, no plain white T-shirts, no sagging pants, no holey jeans, and clothing must be clean."

i5.photobucket.com
STOP DRESSING LIKE A NUBIAN, ASSHOLE!

 
2012-07-15 11:43:53 PM  

numbone: "We were looking at other people's feet with unkempt sneakers and people with flip-flops and no socks,"

Heaven forbid someone would wear flip-flops without socks.


What kind of Philistine wears flip-flops without socks?
 
2012-07-15 11:43:54 PM  

FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?


Salt Lake City?
 
2012-07-15 11:45:41 PM  

Mark Galvan: FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?

Salt Lake City?


I want to say it was somewhere in North Carolina. Maybe Asheville. I remember being surprised because I had heard Asheville was really cool.
 
2012-07-15 11:49:44 PM  

vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.


And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.
 
2012-07-15 11:49:53 PM  
As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.
 
2012-07-15 11:50:12 PM  
Dress codes. How do they work?
 
2012-07-15 11:53:16 PM  
"We have a business plan and demographic of clientele that we shoot for," Mercer said. "Each venue caters to a different demographic, so we try to keep the (clients) as comfortable as possible so those people don't feel threatened."

A good example of how the free market is a hopeless bigot.
 
2012-07-15 11:54:58 PM  

foo monkey: Dress codes. How do they work?


Clubs are now denying people admission on what they wear?!? Unfarkingbelievable!
 
2012-07-15 11:55:48 PM  
Tag also applies to the admin who greenlighted this and me, for clicking on it.
 
2012-07-15 11:57:46 PM  
Hate to say it, but a local hall here in Dull Youth Minnesnowta has a big giant poster on the wall of HOUSE RULES that are all "anti-thug", they even went so far as to remove all readily accessible hip-hop off the juke (you can still super search, but them shiats are 'spensive), and jack the price on Hennessy...it's sad because it worked; violence is down and the womens aren't afraid to go in there again, but for the two other dudes in my neck of the woods who are actually on this site, I warn you, West Duluth chicks...amirite?
 
2012-07-15 11:58:28 PM  
POOL hall

/proofread? th' fark is that?
 
2012-07-15 11:58:37 PM  
Looks like it got resolved peacefully since he pointed out that the place wasn't even maintaining its own standards.
 
2012-07-15 11:59:19 PM  
Did a retarded 2nd grader write this headline?
 
2012-07-15 11:59:24 PM  
*an

/there, I said it
 
2012-07-16 12:00:06 AM  

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.


Find a way to call them out on it with the law and smite them in court.
 
2012-07-16 12:01:23 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.

And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.


Because he's too black to be inside the Jordans. Or the club.

Seriously, when did Air Jordans become a badge of mental thuggery? Are they assuming that no thugs would be wearing a three-piece suit and wingtips? Cuz they're due for a big shock if so.
 
2012-07-16 12:03:30 AM  
This is why, today and back when I was a much younger man, I go to bars and not clubs.
 
2012-07-16 12:04:53 AM  
Not unusual that clubs have dress codes to keep the gang bangers out. No one wants to go to a club where its gang-banger thugs all around
 
2012-07-16 12:04:53 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Seriously, when did Air Jordans become a badge of mental thuggery? Are they assuming that no thugs would be wearing a three-piece suit and wingtips? Cuz they're due for a big shock if so.


i45.tinypic.com

Now, shall we discuss the terms by which I will enter your establishment?
 
2012-07-16 12:05:57 AM  

Shmopee: and jack the price on Hennessy


That seriously makes a difference to people?

I'm not a big fan of brandies -- cognacs or otherwise -- so it just boggles the mind that someone would care so much about that particular spirit that its expense would drive them away.

Is there something special about Hennessy?
 
2012-07-16 12:07:19 AM  
biobreak.files.wordpress.com

We don't serve their kind here
 
2012-07-16 12:08:22 AM  

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.


I'd be curious what the crime/police call statistics are locally for this group of clubs with high standards vs. those that normally allow 'athletic attire'. If the stats are lower for the high standard clubs, well, it is what it is.
 
2012-07-16 12:11:20 AM  

Mark Galvan: FishyFred: Wasn't there an incident recently -- not in Columbus -- where a bar refused admission to several people of color by claiming they had to be "members" of the bar?

Salt Lake City?


No more ridiculous membership rules here in SLC.
 
2012-07-16 12:11:44 AM  

sethstorm: Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.

Find a way to call them out on it with the law and smite them in court.


I suspect that this might be what's going on with this article. The guy goes to the paper first, draws out other stories from other people, (look at the article comments on the Dispatch's site) then goes for the "kill."
 
2012-07-16 12:13:05 AM  

eraser8: Shmopee: and jack the price on Hennessy

That seriously makes a difference to people?

I'm not a big fan of brandies -- cognacs or otherwise -- so it just boggles the mind that someone would care so much about that particular spirit that its expense would drive them away.

Is there something special about Hennessy?


Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society. Before then you could barely move the stuff; it was for the supper club set. It was already a good name in cognac but when club owners discovered you could serve it straight for five times what a snifter was running before it was a goldmine.
 
2012-07-16 12:16:19 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society.


I haven't been asleep. I just 1) don't know anyone who drinks it and 2) don't pay attention to what rappers are interested in.
 
2012-07-16 12:17:38 AM  

adeist69: Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.

I'd be curious what the crime/police call statistics are locally for this group of clubs with high standards vs. those that normally allow 'athletic attire'. If the stats are lower for the high standard clubs, well, it is what it is.


Oh, I have no problem with a real dress code that is enforced uniformly. Dress code says "no athletic apparel," then don't let anyone in who's wearing athletic apparel. But this place's real dress code has more to do with what color the person's birthday suit is. Sure, if a white guy shows up obviously dressed in a manner that flouts the code, they'll keep him out. But I guarantee you that if a nicely dressed white guy showed up with Jordans on, he'd be let in. And the guy in the article? If he'd had "acceptable" shoes on, the doorman would have found something else to keep him out.
 
2012-07-16 12:20:31 AM  

twiztedjustin: Did a retarded 2nd grader write this headline?


It's the Dispatch, so, yes.
 
2012-07-16 12:24:03 AM  
When I was in Manchester I had the doorman at some basement dive deny me entry because of my sneakers. He said "No trainers" and it took a few back and forths before I even knew what he was talking about. I said "Fine, whatever" and started walking away but he called me back, apparently changing his mind about letting me in. Maybe because I'm white. Or American.

/csb
 
2012-07-16 12:37:04 AM  
FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?
 
2012-07-16 12:38:05 AM  

eraser8: Ken VeryBigLiar: Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society.

I haven't been asleep. I just 1) don't know anyone who drinks it and 2) don't pay attention to what rappers are interested in.


To be honest, it disappoints me that the new trend in drinking is to the expensive stuff or the bottle service. Bar markups are already insane; it's simply throwing money away at that level.
 
2012-07-16 12:39:59 AM  

LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?


If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:14 AM  
Eh, I'm a pretty vanilla white guy and have been turned away from bars before because of my shoes. It sucks, but that's how it is. On the plus side, it saved me from a brawl that happened shortly thereafter when some guy flipped out and started throttling his girlfriend on the dance floor.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:29 AM  

Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.


Timberlands have been a rapper thing for a long time. My earliest recollection of Timberlines in a rap song goes back to the early '90s.
 
2012-07-16 12:49:49 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: vartian: BarkingUnicorn: This article's hidden agenda is to express society's disapproval of "thugwear."

Not so much hidden in this case, apparently:

He was told that Air Jordan sneakers violated the bar's dress code, but he saw other patrons wearing sneakers.

Brant and Chatman said the employee told them that banning Air Jordans kept the "thug mentality" out of the bar.

And that's the problem. No uniform enforcement, then it's discriminatory.


And that's fine with me. The bar can discriminate and they can lose or gain business accordingly. Why would someone want to go where they're not wanted anyway? If someone wouldn't let me into a bar because of my shoes, I probably wouldn't want to go there anymore. Seems like a problem that solves itself instantly.
 
2012-07-16 12:51:36 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Have you been asleep for a decade? It caught on with rappers and thus infiltrated society. Before then you could barely move the stuff; it was for the supper club set. It was already a good name in cognac but when club owners discovered you could serve it straight for five times what a snifter was running before it was a goldmine.


Unfortunately, the insane markups hit other popular Cognacs as well as people looked for even more cachet; in my case Remy was my go-to drink back in the day. I still have it occasionally, but the price jumps pushed me to explore Scotch, which more than makes up for the loss.
 
2012-07-16 01:01:06 AM  
 
2012-07-16 01:01:32 AM  

LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?


Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.


latinobenzo.files.wordpress.com

Uh... Timberlands and hip hop go back a few years now... Why do you think there a record producer who calls himself Timbaland?

/Not sayin' it ain't still racist
 
2012-07-16 01:16:51 AM  

Now I Is!: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

Aloy: LaughingRadish: FTA: "So are Timberland boots...". WTF? Have the gangbangers contaminated hiking footwear now?

If they rap about it...

But yes, that I found odd as well.

[latinobenzo.files.wordpress.com image 450x661]

Uh... Timberlands and hip hop go back a few years now... Why do you think there a record producer who calls himself Timbaland?

/Not sayin' it ain't still racist


Yes, but they make legitimate outdoor apparel, designed for people smart enough to tie their shoes. You just can't say the same for say, FUBU.
 
2012-07-16 01:17:54 AM  

Greek: As a Columbus resident, I can tell you that there is a LOT more going on here. The entire purpose of the "dress code" at Park St. Patio and other establishments owned by the same 2 guys is to keep out as many blacks as possible. This is well known in the area. If it wasn't the shoes, they'd have found some other reason to keep the guy out. Wrong color shirt, don't like your belt, your hair is too long/ too short/ too curly/ too straight. Ordinarily, I'd agree- the place has a dress code, and they can deny admission if you don't meet it. But this place's code is written in a vague manner, so that they can find a reason to keep ANYONE out, and it's REALLY based on skin color. They'll allow a small number of blacks in- usually when they're the token black dude with a group of whites, but for the most part, they are verboten at Park St. Patio.


This. That's all the dress codes at these wanna-be guido joints have ever been. Just more of that good ol' midwestern racist hospitality.
 
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