"Susan! Surely it's Susan!"

Pawn takes the King: FirstNationalBastard: MadSkillz: Actually surprisingly few spoilers in that :(

/wants to find out if new companion is a good actress or if she just looks good?

She has been in other things if you want to judge her acting ability. That Titanic mini-series, for one.

I think the bigger question is whether she will be the latest mostest specialest girl in the universe that wants to have spiney Time Lord cock fill her, or if she'll actually add something to the show.

Or if she'll be Susan, or Jenny, or Ramona..

Either way I'm excited, The Ponds have been beat to death.

That's episode 5 of the new season.

Moffat promises "more Daleks than you've ever seen in one place - and every generation of Dalek."

So... shiat on a spaceship?

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Moffat promises "more Daleks than you've ever seen in one place - and every generation of Dalek."

So... shiat on a spaceship?

Dalek Song...seems kinda relevant...

/and a blood lot of Daleks

RatMaster999: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Moffat promises "more Daleks than you've ever seen in one place - and every generation of Dalek."

So... shiat on a spaceship?

Dalek Song...seems kinda relevant...

/and a blood lot of Daleks

Dalek Relaxation is much better (start at 0:31).

FTA: "Tragically, there have been at least three versions of Atlantis in Doctor Who," says Moffat. "We could do it again. To hell with continuity."

"To hell with continuity" seems to be how Moffat writes most of his stuff, anyway.

some_beer_drinker: dr who sucks without chris ecelston

...And he's economical; nowadays, he'll work for stale crackers. I'm getting good buzz about his latest triumph as... ummmm.. "James." Eventually, with enough practice, he might get a part with a last name...

Enough with the farking Daleks. I'm starting to wonder if the Time War was just a giant scheme to get the Doctor the hell away from Gallifrey for good because there shouldn't be Daleks at all, much less lots and lots of them.

The Time Lords are Alive!

perigee: some_beer_drinker: dr who sucks without chris ecelston

...And he's economical; nowadays, he'll work for stale crackers. I'm getting good buzz about his latest triumph as... ummmm.. "James." Eventually, with enough practice, he might get a part with a last name...

I believe his latest triumph is named Daniel Demoys. and it is good.

I can't read the word Spoilers without hearing it in Alex Kingston's voice.

Somewhere Professor Farnsworth is cursing Alex Kingston.

I find myself worried that Moffat by be getting a little too "cute" with his scripts, concentrating more on one-line synopses rather than substantial development, ala Sherlock....

Random aside, sorry for it: But am I the only one who thinks that Christopher Eccleston would make a really, REALLY good Spider Jerusalem, from Transmetropolitan? I was re-reading it the other day, and I fgured Patrick Stewart, while perfect, is probably too old now.

No thank you.

1: The people that biatch about Amy and Rory can sod off.

2: Do we really need another episode with the Weeping Angels? It was a fascinating episode when they produced "Blink", but I came to the revelation during Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone that the Angels just aren't that interesting of a monster. They have one schtick - you can't close your eyes. And taking a one-episode story and bloating it into two just highlighted how monotonous it is to watch people try and keep their eyes open. It's terrifying for five minutes, but after that it gets boring as hell.

3: Dinosaurs in a spaceship? Moffat, for all that is good in the world, GIVE US THIS!!!

UNC_Samurai: 1: The people that biatch about Amy and Rory can sod off.

2: Do we really need another episode with the Weeping Angels? It was a fascinating episode when they produced "Blink", but I came to the revelation during Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone that the Angels just aren't that interesting of a monster. They have one schtick - you can't close your eyes. And taking a one-episode story and bloating it into two just highlighted how monotonous it is to watch people try and keep their eyes open. It's terrifying for five minutes, but after that it gets boring as hell.

3: Dinosaurs in a spaceship? Moffat, for all that is good in the world, GIVE US THIS!!!


ENUMERATE!!

MadSkillz: Pawn takes the King: FirstNationalBastard: MadSkillz: Actually surprisingly few spoilers in that :(

/wants to find out if new companion is a good actress or if she just looks good?

She has been in other things if you want to judge her acting ability. That Titanic mini-series, for one.

I think the bigger question is whether she will be the latest mostest specialest girl in the universe that wants to have spiney Time Lord cock fill her, or if she'll actually add something to the show.

Or if she'll be Susan, or Jenny, or Ramona..

Either way I'm excited, The Ponds have been beat to death.

Yeah they've died too many times now. I hope that this season is better than the last one too... the whole wind up for the doctor's death only to have it create a crazy impossible universe.

The way it worked out made everything quite possible. Yes, time paradoxes aside...


I thought last season was one of the best yet. Great production quality as well.

The article mentions dinosaurs aboard the TARDIS, then goes in to talking about an object heading toward Earth. Am I the only one who, for a moment anyway, thought they were getting at a revisitation to Earth Shock and the death of Wesley Adric?

HopScotchNSoda: The article mentions dinosaurs aboard the TARDIS, then goes in to talking about an object heading toward Earth. Am I the only one who, for a moment anyway, thought they were getting at a revisitation to Earth Shock and the death of Wesley Adric?

I know I didn't think that, but only because I haven't seen Earth Shock yet...I am, however, almost at Invasion of the Dinosaurs.

PizzaJedi81: HopScotchNSoda: The article mentions dinosaurs aboard the TARDIS, then goes in to talking about an object heading toward Earth. Am I the only one who, for a moment anyway, thought they were getting at a revisitation to Earth Shock and the death of Wesley Adric?

I know I didn't think that, but only because I haven't seen Earth Shock yet...I am, however, almost at Invasion of the Dinosaurs.

So you're up to The Time Warrior? (the debut of both Sarah Jane Smith and the Sontarans)

HopScotchNSoda: PizzaJedi81: HopScotchNSoda: The article mentions dinosaurs aboard the TARDIS, then goes in to talking about an object heading toward Earth. Am I the only one who, for a moment anyway, thought they were getting at a revisitation to Earth Shock and the death of Wesley Adric?

I know I didn't think that, but only because I haven't seen Earth Shock yet...I am, however, almost at Invasion of the Dinosaurs.

So you're up to The Time Warrior? (the debut of both Sarah Jane Smith and the Sontarans)

Yep. Watching on Daily Motion. There's this guy doing full episodes, matrixarchive...and...SCORE! He just posted parts 3 and 4 of Time Warrior! Liking Sarah Jane, but Jo Grant has a special place in my heart.

This may interest you Who fans:

PizzaJedi81: Liking Sarah Jane, but Jo Grant has a special place in my heart.

Then you might want to close your eyes when you get up to The Sarah Jane Adventures serial, "Death of the Doctor", from 2010. It's a good serial, offers a metric assload of canon about ex-companions, is the last time that SJS & the Doctor team up (and only time she & Eleven do so), and a couple of scenes take on a whole new significance in the wake of Elisabeth Sladen's death, so you should watch it when you get up that far. But you may not want to see Jo Jones (née Grant) as cupie doll looking little old lady. For what it's worth, after marring Professor Jones, Jo lives a long, wonderful life, full of exotic travel, raising a family, having grandchildren, and so-forth. The Tenth Doctor visits her (off-screen) just before his regeneration during the events at the end of "The End of Time", but she is unaware because he doesn't introduce himself and she wouldn't recognise him.

HopScotchNSoda: PizzaJedi81: Liking Sarah Jane, but Jo Grant has a special place in my heart.

Then you might want to close your eyes when you get up to The Sarah Jane Adventures serial, "Death of the Doctor", from 2010. It's a good serial, offers a metric assload of canon about ex-companions, is the last time that SJS & the Doctor team up (and only time she & Eleven do so), and a couple of scenes take on a whole new significance in the wake of Elisabeth Sladen's death, so you should watch it when you get up that far. But you may not want to see Jo Jones (née Grant) as cupie doll looking little old lady. For what it's worth, after marring Professor Jones, Jo lives a long, wonderful life, full of exotic travel, raising a family, having grandchildren, and so-forth. The Tenth Doctor visits her (off-screen) just before his regeneration during the events at the end of "The End of Time", but she is unaware because he doesn't introduce himself and she wouldn't recognise him.

I've got a ways to g before I get there. I'm watching, in many cases for the first time, the entire old series. It may take some time.

PizzaJedi81: I've got a ways to g before I get there. I'm watching, in many cases for the first time, the entire old series. It may take some time.

I don't doubt it. I recommend that you mesh the spin-offs into the rotation as they come up, as they maintain a continuity. The first one will be the pilot for K-9 & Company, "A Girl's Best Friend", from December 1981.

The first ten episodes of 2007 can be intermixed with the first season of Torchwood, or you can watch all of the 2007 episodes after the first Torchwood season, which is the order in which they aired. The thing is that the end of the first season finale of Torchwood, "End of Days" goes directly into the 11th episode of the 2007 Doctor Who season, "Utopia".

The Doctor Who mini-episodes from the 11th Doctor era include a few that were made available out of sequence. "Meanwhile in the TARDIS 1" goes directly in between the 1st & 2nd episodes of 11 & Amy. "Meanwhile in the TARDIS 2" goes between "Flesh & Stone" and "Vampires of Venice". "Up All Night" is a prequel to "Closing Time". The "unared" 4th Doctor / Romana serial, "Shada" has actually been aired by the BBC twice in different configurations. First, using the existing footage, and Tom Baker filling in the missing story; then as an Eighth Doctor animated story that oddly references back to the original adventure as if it happened during the 4th Doctor's run, and then re-lives it as the Eighth Doctor. I recommend watching at least the recreated one with Tom Baker's storytelling after "The Horns of Nimon" and before "The Leisure Hive", where it was intended to air. The animated one could either be watched immediately thereafter, or right after the 1996 TV movie.

Other than that optional viewing sequence for the 2007 episodes and those specific mini-episodes & Shada, the stories of all four series (Doctor Who including its mini-episodes, prequels, charity specials & webisodes, K-9 and Company's single episode, Torchwood & its radio plays & webisodes, and The Sarah Jane Adventures) should be seen in the order aired.

Non-canonical things written by Steven Moffat should also be included in the rotation in the order published/broadcast. This includes his first published DW story, "Continuity Errors" from 1996 (read either before or after the TV movie which came out that year). "Continuity Errors" is not officially canon (and never can be), but Moffat treats it as such, as demonstrated last year in "Let's Kill Hitler" and "The Wedding of River Song"; the story prominently features River's future advisor at Luna University, Professor Candy, who is not a fan of the Doctor. He also wrote the 1999 charity special, "Curse of the Fatal Death", which is not at all canon, but is a fun satire and served as a production bridge between the two eras, with some folks from the classic era involved, and both Moffat and future-"Vincent & The Doctor" writer, Richard Curtis, directing.

If matrixarchive falls behind, there is a torrent of all of the classic era in one massive torrent (but with individual files, so you only have to download episodes that you want, as you want them). I've used it routinely.

HopScotchNSoda: I don't doubt it. I recommend that you mesh the spin-offs into the rotation as they come up, as they maintain a continuity. The first one will be the pilot for K-9 & Company, "A Girl's Best Friend", from December 1981.

I usually tend to treat spin offs as a seperate entity, in all honesty. Unless there is a direct carryove (The same story goes from Buffy to Angel, for instance.), I tnd to watch them individually.

I've actually watched all of Torchwood, aside from Miracle Day, which, I hear, is really lousy.

Pretty much everything that's available on Netflix, I've already watched, so I'm familiar with most of the Doctors, aside from 6 and 8...but I did torrent the movie, and really rather enjoyed it...aside from the leap of logic that kicked off the plot. I mean...they could have had the Thals be the executioners, for Bob's sake!

I've also listened to most, but by no means all, of 8's audio adventures, and he's come close to topping Pertwee as my Doctor.

s far as Shada goes, I'm definitely going to readthe book, and possibly listen to the 8th Doctor's version. I'm not sure if I will seek out the Tom Baker thing. But I probably will. It's funny...I read Dirk Gently well before watching ANY Doctor Who, so I could pick out the bits that were inspired from it...but having done so, I can now see the various ideas and characters as Who inspired. (Especially the look of Dirk...I now picture a chubby Tom Baker.)

PizzaJedi81: I usually tend to treat spin offs as a seperate entity, in all honesty. Unless there is a direct carryove (The same story goes from Buffy to Angel, for instance.), I tnd to watch them individually.

Doctor Who's spin-offs do relate back to Doctor Who, and all maintain an overlapping continuity.

The events of K-9 and Company's single episode are background for "The Five Doctors", "School Reunion", and superficially for "Journey's End". It also gives a face and voice to the long-running unseen DW character, Aunt Lavinia Smith who reared Sarah Jane.

The Tenth and Eleventh Doctors each guest-starred in two-part The Sarah Jane Adventures episodes, as did Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart (Ret.), and the former Jo Grant. Sarah Jane, her companions, and one of her recurring alien adversaries are all mentioned at a couple of different points in the DW episode "Turn Left" (SJS & her companions dying with Martha in the alternate timeline version of the events of "Smith & Jones", and the Trickster being revealed as the cause of the alternate timeline). She and some co-stars appear in the DW episodes "The Stolen Earth", "Journey's End", and "The End of Time" (in addition to the return of SJS & K-9 in "School Reunion" before she got her own spin-off). As mentioned before, "Death of the Doctor" contains lots of follow-up on ex-companions including Ian Chesterton, Barbara Wright, Ben Jackson, Polly, Jo Grant, Sarah Jane of course, Dr Harry Sullivan, Tegan Jovanka, and Ace McShane.

Torchwood's first season finale, "End of Days", dove-tails directly into the start of the DW episode "Utopia" (Jack starts running to the TARDIS at the end of "End of Days" and catches it at the start of "Utopia", spending the next three episodes with Ten & Martha. Those three episodes are back-story for Martha's guest-starring arc in the 2nd season of Torchwood. The surviving members of Torchwood appear in "The Stolen Earth" & "Journey's End".

HopScotchNSoda: PizzaJedi81: I usually tend to treat spin offs as a seperate entity, in all honesty. Unless there is a direct carryove (The same story goes from Buffy to Angel, for instance.), I tnd to watch them individually.

Doctor Who's spin-offs do relate back to Doctor Who, and all maintain an overlapping continuity.

The events of K-9 and Company's single episode are background for "The Five Doctors", "School Reunion", and superficially for "Journey's End". It also gives a face and voice to the long-running unseen DW character, Aunt Lavinia Smith who reared Sarah Jane.

The Tenth and Eleventh Doctors each guest-starred in two-part The Sarah Jane Adventures episodes, as did Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart (Ret.), and the former Jo Grant. Sarah Jane, her companions, and one of her recurring alien adversaries are all mentioned at a couple of different points in the DW episode "Turn Left" (SJS & her companions dying with Martha in the alternate timeline version of the events of "Smith & Jones", and the Trickster being revealed as the cause of the alternate timeline). She and some co-stars appear in the DW episodes "The Stolen Earth", "Journey's End", and "The End of Time" (in addition to the return of SJS & K-9 in "School Reunion" before she got her own spin-off). As mentioned before, "Death of the Doctor" contains lots of follow-up on ex-companions including Ian Chesterton, Barbara Wright, Ben Jackson, Polly, Jo Grant, Sarah Jane of course, Dr Harry Sullivan, Tegan Jovanka, and Ace McShane.

Torchwood's first season finale, "End of Days", dove-tails directly into the start of the DW episode "Utopia" (Jack starts running to the TARDIS at the end of "End of Days" and catches it at the start of "Utopia", spending the next three episodes with Ten & Martha. Those three episodes are back-story for Martha's guest-starring arc in the 2nd season of Torchwood. The surviving members of Torchwood appear in "The Stolen Earth" & "Journey's End".

Well, I kind of knew all of that, honestly. I've seen everything NuWho aside from, as mentioned, SJA and T:MD. I'll get to it, I'm sure, and I'm equally sure I'll watch NuWho onc again after having done so. I do rather enjoy the show, quite a bit. :-)