hubiestubert: You really have to wonder at this point, if Mitt is regretting his decision to retire to the country for the weekend and let his staff go on autopilot...

He couldn't because he had to do better than his dad.
And you might want to look up the white horse prophecy
Smith and his followers "considered themselves the last Real Americans" and "the legitimate heirs of the pilgrims and Founding Fathers", Mitt has more in common with Sarah and the Tea Party than the Republicans old guard thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_horse_prophecy

Markoff_Cheney:

youve always kept it sane. these people are not just a danger to themselves, they are a danger to us all. see also, domestic terrorism.
its gonna be a fun ride the next 4 years. even more fun than the last 4, which have been mindblowingly off the rails.
i need a drink.

well...at least we know where they are. Freepers aren't exactly big on the whole 'stealth revolution' thing.

quatchi: Waxing_Chewbacca: Weaver95: really though - Limbaugh had a full on meltdown over Bain capital on friday. I swear to god, he ALMOST cried on air it was that bad.

Monday is must listen Derp

Bectcha it'll be along the lines that anyone who dares question the mighty and powerful Rmoney is not only a socialist but a slut as well.

Do we have a pool yet on how many days in a row Rush is gonna tell us what a non-issue this is?

got me...but like I said - friday afternoon Limbaugh almost cried on air over the whole bain capital thing. he was really pissed off. see, ever since he burned out his hearing with all those drugs, he's lost the ability to keep the emotions out of his voice. oh he can control it if he's not off kilter...but when he gets riled up, he loses that level of control. this bain capital thing really rattled his cage.

Guntram Shatterhand: hubiestubert: You really have to wonder at this point, if Mitt is regretting his decision to retire to the country for the weekend and let his staff go on autopilot...

Looking at his campaign, I'm starting to wonder if Romney micromanages everything or even bothers with actual campaign people. It's been noted that Mitt's using 'old friends' to run the show and that explains the collapse of his campaign and the numerous gaffes he's had.

Mitt not only wants to micromange he aslo wants all of the credit when things go right. Remember when he fired the debate coach because he was gettng credit for helping Romney win Florida?

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Wow. Most of it is still up. That was actually saddening until the Hackers reference. Then I laughed a hearty laugh.



Yo. Check this out guys, this is insanely great, it's got a 28.8 BPS modem!

I'm glad 3 Butt Cheeks is out there in the WORLD WIDE WEB, patrolling CYBERSPACE armed with a CYBERDEGREE, keeping us safe from PHISHER STEVENZ!

MisterLoki: Poor Mittens.

At this point maybe he hopes for some sympathy votes.

cameroncrazy1984: dericwater: cameroncrazy1984: phritz: Adam West for President: I'm really curious about the SLC Olympics. Did he actually do a good job? Did he saddle the city/state with debt? What's the line on his work out there?

I'm an O-bot who's actively enjoying all the Schadenfreude here, but Romney actually did a very good job turning the olympics around. They were mired in scandal and debt and flailing miserably, and he cleaned everything up and made the whole thing run like a ruthless, effective machine. He really can't be faulted for that part of his resumé.

He cleaned it up by begging the federal government for hundreds of millions of dollars. Who's he going to get money from if he's President?

Two billion, according to McCain.

It was that high? Damn.

To be fair, I'm sure McCain padded his claim.

SubBass49: Markoff_Cheney: i am noticing a lack of the usual threadshiatters. talking points not issued yet?
nope, they are just farked, no response.
and i thought the mccain campaign was the height of political weirdness, this is epic.

Will the VP selection be coming this week to deflect attention? Me thinks so.

That requires someone to have actually said "yes"...

Guntram Shatterhand: Weaver95: well, either the GOP is simply arrogant beyond belief OR they really don't see what Romney did as a problem....it kinda breaks both ways.

Not to mention the Republicans have been trying to dial back the crazy after Palin lost them the Senate. That's the real reason Romney was chosen to win: he was a moderate that could (in theory) compete with Obama while throwing some red meat to the Base Tards. The Republicans are trying to backtrack from their Base's insanity and finding themselves unable to do so. This isn't a defense, but another reason why they had to back Romney. He was their only chance, and he was just as big a retard as the rest.

The thing is, they had the opportunity with either Huntsman or Johnson to dial it back. Both, proven leaders, albeit without the soft and malleable streak that Romney has. Romney is a go to guy for contracts. He also has a certain "moral flexibility" that plays well to the Kleptocrat set, but zero charisma, and zero integrity--which should have been something to tip them off a while ago. Instead, they wanted someone who would be entirely controllable. This Quayle 3.0. GW was the 2.0 version, and look where it got the country.

It's this endorsement of ethical vacuum while trying to drape oneself with the flag and moral platitudes that got us into the financial mess that we found ourselves in at the end of GW's term. For all the posturing, it is about cash money, plain and simple. Who will deliver it, and with a smile on their face.

Huntsman and Johnson are both proven leaders, and the folks who are at the heart of things genuinely fear that. They want someone who will tow whatever line is dangled before their boy, and nothing but. The problem is, My Pet Goat pretty much proved what that will get us when what amounts to a sock puppet is put into the Presidency, and no one wants to admit that.

There are folks in the Republican Party that are worth watching, but the Eat Our Own/Lockstep Vision thing has reduced the Big Tent down to kleptcrats and folks even the Moral Majority would find extreme, and there is little else that the leadership wants--because anyone else might do something unthinkable: lead.

This has been my problem with the party for some time. I voted against such sock puppets, but the rank and file is determined to be cats, looking at the finger, instead of the food like confused cats. My last vote in the Primary was an attempt to derail that, but the rank and file is buying the bullsh*t, and if that is what the leadership wants, then they're welcome to it.

We need leaders. We need folks who actually have vision, not just talking points and memos handed to them of what their policy should be this week.

This mess? This is the result of years of dumbing down the debate, and advancing folks who will give until it hurts to get along. Romney is an ethically and morally bankrupt human, and I kenned to that back in college. BEFORE he headed to the Olympics and Utah. This is not something that just ballooned up from left field--folks have been backing and grooming this cat for a long while, because he has no real ideas of his own, save to line his own pockets, and to line the nests of those who will give him what he wants.

He is the candidate the party deserves. He just isn't the candidate that the party needs, or the country for that matter. Palin wasn't the problem with the party, she was a symptom. Idiots promoted and advanced up the line, because they said the right things, and signed what was put in front of them when their handlers said to, and to spout points that they couldn't defend, because they didn't even understand the questions before them, and just were reading off the cue cards.

Rove and his ilk did the party a grave disservice for a long while. And the country for that matter.

I was glad to support McCain in 2000, because I genuinely thought he was the best man on the field for the party. And he was torn to shreds on that campaign by members of his own party to advance Quayle 2.0, and we've seen the results. Romney is at least aware of his culpability, but he doesn't care that he'd be a sock puppet, because he wants the prestige. The office? He doesn't care about that. He just wants to put his feet up and let the piggies feed out of the trough, and then coast for the next 10 years on the grateful handouts, the book tours, and attend affairs of state, and collect applause. The job? He couldn't care less about, because it's not about the office, it's not about the people, it's about the payout at the end.

Which is why I for damn sure couldn't vote for him. Will never vote for him, because the party and the nation need better. And maybe, just maybe, if we rip these asshats a new one, we can shred their influence. The party is sick. Gravely ill, and folks are looking to hookum and laying of hands to mend it, and the party needs more than faith healing. It doesn't need a purge. It needs folks to wake the f*ck up. That isn't going to happen if we keep rewarding folks for showing up. For not taking responsibility. The party, in order to get better, is going to need folks to demand better.

Not pretty words. Not glad handing and back patting, but actual leadership that is going to do more than manage problems, and actually look to solve them. That means real work. That means real scholarship--not studies commissioned to reinforce positions already decided upon because folks are invested in them. That means voting for folks who actually give a rat's ass about the country, and not just their next payday or who gives them a treat and smiles pretty for them.

We need a real party, as opposed to this sham that we have, and I probably stayed in longer than I should have, but I thought we could turn it around. And when I saw that I couldn't, I got out. Not because I had changed. Not because I was less Conservative, but because I can't stand to see what the party has done to good people, to fall to radicals with visions that have little to do with the values I grew up on. The party is sick, and the sad fact is, there are a lot of folks who would rather point fingers, than vote for folks that they think will do a good job, because they feel that it's a team sport.

You want a better Republican Party? Then vote for folks who actually care about the Republic. You want a better nation? Then vote for people who actually care about it, no matter the party. We can't afford more of the same tired bullsh*t. Voodoo Economics doesn't work. We tried it. We ballooned our debt to the point where we don't even talk about it, just how much we can't pay this year. THAT is an issue. You want fiscal responsibility? Then vote for it, and right now, that means real solutions, not catch phrases and "no new tax" pledges written by a 13 year old who couldn't get his right hand to work his peen properly so he wrote a screed to cover his own inadequacies, not some aging beauty queen who hasn't had an idea that wasn't handed to her to sign, not some idiot who thinks that demonizing your sisters and daughters for daring to want control of their own bodies, not some closet cases who can't admit their own urges and who want to tear apart the thought of the 1st Amendment to hide that to deny our brothers and sisters equal rights. We need better, and kids, Romney ain't it. He never has been, and it will probably take getting spanked, again before the Idiot Brigade realizes that they've been played by folks looking to pocket as much of their cash as possible. And if that is what it takes, then so be it.

Let the party burn at this point. Something new will rise up. Maybe the Modern Whigs. Maybe something else. Not the Libertarians, who are so lost in their visions of being Brave Pioneers that they can't negotiate modern life, and who'd see the entire West burn to the ground, and the seas rise, and the dams tumble rather than admit that maybe the Fed has a purpose. These things are not the problem though--they are symptoms of a deep rot in the public discourse, and it may take losing, and losing badly, before folks see it.

DeltaPunch: Sgt Otter: domino324: FTFA: "but there were questions that Governor Romney wanted to address to make sure people understood that he's not a felon,"

That's the kind of quote that can lose an election.

"I'm not a witch felon, I'm you."

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/sorry

Wow - Mayim Bialik has REALLY let herself go...

Does anyone think that one of the Romney boys will be trying to make up for Mitt and run for president someday?

bwilson27: hubiestubert:

There are folks in the Republican Party that are worth watching, but the Eat Our Own/Lockstep Vision ...

You spent some time on this, didn't you? So vote Republican?

Apparently not enough, if you missed the point...

Let the party burn at this point. Something new will rise up. Maybe the Modern Whigs. Maybe something else. Not the Libertarians, who are so lost in their visions of being Brave Pioneers that they can't negotiate modern life, and who'd see the entire West burn to the ground, and the seas rise, and the dams tumble rather than admit that maybe the Fed has a purpose. These things are not the problem though--they are symptoms of a deep rot in the public discourse, and it may take losing, and losing badly, before folks see it.

Sabyen91: I googled it. You don't want to go to that corner of the internet. You know what they say about staring into the abyss...

The Beyond part of Bed Bath & Beyond?

And here's Mitt telling his people how to score big money from the Federal Government, when he was governor (or campaigning for governor):

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Penn State officials announced that they have just retroactively reported Jerry Sandusky to the police - effective 1993.

PanicMan: spongeboob: Does anyone think that one of the Romney boys will be trying to make up for Mitt and run for president someday?

Run? Maybe. Win? No. Not with that $100 million trust fund they won't.

I was just hoping America would never have to endure another Romney campaign, can't they just spend their trust fund on hookers and blow.

bwilson27: Yeah, but you seemed to have missed your own point- Is this directed at the world at large or yourself?

More towards the White Knights who are rushing to find talking points to defend the indefensible and pretend that they're doing so out of deep conviction than wanting to cheer their team...

Which is the point. This isn't a team sport, and if a Democrat or Republican is the better candidate, you need to vote for the better candidate, not just the right letter. Which thinking people usually do, but at this point, we are far down the Rabbit Hole, and mouth breathers who have access to Wikipedia and a whole raft of pre-drawn talking points to draw on for arguments are thinking that their abdication of anything like critical thinking skills is a plus because they're pure...

The party is going to have either go down, or it's got to lose so badly that the batsh*t crazy are tossed out in order to save it. I don't really think that is going to be possible anymore, not with folks choosing to drop out than service a radicalized agenda.

And that is more the point. What is being touted as "Conservative" today is anything but. It is a radicalized vision that only pays lip service to Republicanism, only really identifiable by the team name, than anything looking like policy for the promotion of the health of the Republic. We need less "Conservatives"--and yes, I use the quote marks because what is being touted as Conservative lately is anything but--and more Republicans. Or Whigs. Or folks who actually have vision that will promote the promise of the nation, as opposed to radicals who hate everything about it, save the flag and a few of their neighbors.

That is problem right there. "Social Conservatives" who aren't terrible social and really dislike their communities and neighbors and who have a radical vision of what society should be, and never was, but damned if they want to get back to it. And if the nation has to burn to get there, then so be it for them.

The cheering section lately has been cheering that burn. And waving flags for it...

dericwater: And here's Mitt telling his people how to score big money from the Federal Government, when he was governor (or campaigning for governor):

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One million dollars from the department of education to buy tickets for kids to the Olympics. Did any of the other Republicans have anyone looking into this guys history?