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(Telegraph)   Defecting Syrian diplomat admits that the Syrian government was behind attacks on US soldiers in Iraq. They attacked our troops, they are attacking civilians, and most importantly, they have oil. What are we waiting for?   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 247
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2012-07-15 03:40:23 PM
The election.
 
2012-07-15 03:45:35 PM
I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?
 
2012-07-15 03:47:44 PM

cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?


I'm pretty sure it's because there is no UN consensus. If he gets Russia and China aboard, it may happen.
 
2012-07-15 03:53:09 PM

St_Francis_P: cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?

I'm pretty sure it's because there is no UN consensus. If he gets Russia and China aboard, it may happen.


I wonder how much effort and money is being put in to covert operations in Syria. They havent exactly liked us over there for a long time. This could be an opportunity, an olive branch, for our two sides to finally start to work together, if we help the resistance overthrow their government.
 
2012-07-15 03:54:12 PM

cman: St_Francis_P: cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?

I'm pretty sure it's because there is no UN consensus. If he gets Russia and China aboard, it may happen.

I wonder how much effort and money is being put in to covert operations in Syria. They havent exactly liked us over there for a long time. This could be an opportunity, an olive branch, for our two sides to finally start to work together, if we help the resistance overthrow their government.


I'd be shocked if we weren't doing some covert ops.
 
2012-07-15 03:54:40 PM
We're waiting Da Joos to tell us to attack, of course. That'll happen as soon as it benefits Israel enough.
 
2012-07-15 03:56:08 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: We're waiting Da Joos to tell us to attack, of course. That'll happen as soon as it benefits Israel enough.


FYI, that comment can be taken as anti-Semitic.

Now, if you were to say Israelis instead, you would be in the clear.
 
2012-07-15 03:56:33 PM
Israeli propaganda is Israeli.
 
2012-07-15 03:58:44 PM

logistic: Israeli propaganda is Israeli.


Yeah! Israel is a horrible nation responsible for the destruction of many societies. A water main broke on a Lebanese street yesterday. Of course, Israel was the only culprit behind it
 
2012-07-15 04:00:13 PM

logistic: Israeli propaganda is Israeli.


A lot of defectors have their own reasons to embellish the truth.
 
2012-07-15 04:05:59 PM

cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?


No oil.
 
2012-07-15 04:09:07 PM
Syria doesn't really have oil.

cman: Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?


No major opposition government.
 
2012-07-15 04:09:25 PM

cman: Benevolent Misanthrope: We're waiting Da Joos to tell us to attack, of course. That'll happen as soon as it benefits Israel enough.

FYI, that comment can be taken as anti-Semitic.

Now, if you were to say Israelis instead, you would be in the clear.


Lighten up, Francis.
 
2012-07-15 04:11:42 PM
How many baby incubators did they steal from the hospital?

/look it up
//don't believe propaganda without evidence
///even if it really might be true
 
2012-07-15 04:12:35 PM

cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?


A few things. For one, Putin is Assad's BFF and Russia has a vote in the UN's Security Council.

Another thing, Qadaffi was a terrorist (and fark Bush and Condi Rice for kissing and making up with him).

We really don't care about Syria.

After things turned out so well in Libya (sarcasm), we're not sure the devil we don't know will be better than the devil we do know.

It's much more in the middle of the Middle East - they have strong ties to Iran and while some crazies think we're looking for any excuse we can to get into a war with Iran, we really don't actually want to do so.

We're also sick of this shiat.

And it wouldn't help Obama get re-elected.
 
2012-07-15 04:19:16 PM

cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?


The Russians would not react favorably to any actions
 
2012-07-15 04:33:27 PM

Happy Hours: cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?

A few things. For one, Putin is Assad's BFF and Russia has a vote in the UN's Security Council.

Another thing, Qadaffi was a terrorist (and fark Bush and Condi Rice for kissing and making up with him).

We really don't care about Syria.

After things turned out so well in Libya (sarcasm), we're not sure the devil we don't know will be better than the devil we do know.

It's much more in the middle of the Middle East - they have strong ties to Iran and while some crazies think we're looking for any excuse we can to get into a war with Iran, we really don't actually want to do so.

We're also sick of this shiat.

And it wouldn't help Obama get re-elected.


This!

If we lift finger in Syria its on like donkey kong with Iran. Do we really want another decade of fighting two middle east wars?
 
2012-07-15 05:10:48 PM

St_Francis_P: cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?

I'm pretty sure it's because there is no UN consensus. If he gets Russia and China aboard, it may happen.


I've also heard (via NPR) that there are geographical differences in which a Libyan intervention was "easier" than a Syrian intervention would be.

I know, "because it's hard" makes a poor argument when we're talking about human rights abuses but it is noteworthy.
 
2012-07-15 05:53:11 PM
I'm guessing Israel at this point doesn't want any more unknowns in its neighborhood. Assad they know. I doubt they're very excited by the idea of seeing him go and possibly get replaced by either a Libya type situation or a Muslim Brotherhood election.
 
2012-07-15 06:42:36 PM
Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.
 
2012-07-15 06:45:01 PM

Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.


You seriously think a lib posted that headline?
 
2012-07-15 06:48:26 PM

St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?


I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.
 
2012-07-15 07:15:08 PM
I'd be very wary of this being Curveball II: Electric Boogaloo.
 
2012-07-15 07:15:34 PM

St_Francis_P: cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not intervene there?

I'm pretty sure it's because there is no UN consensus. If he gets Russia and China aboard, it may happen.


Pretty much. Syria is in Russia's sphere of influence, and they get tetchy about military action near their interests.
 
2012-07-15 07:21:27 PM

cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.


A lot of so-called liberals were quick to tell Bush he could wage all the war he felt like and even encouraged him by appropriating money for him to do so.

Liberals were pretty happy when Obama flew sorties over Libya.

Why wouldn't liberals at least want us to help out the Syrian rebels by shooting down helicopters and immobilizing land-based armor?
 
2012-07-15 07:28:42 PM

cman: logistic: Israeli propaganda is Israeli.

Yeah! Israel is a horrible nation responsible for the destruction of many societies. A water main broke on a Lebanese street yesterday. Of course, Israel was the only culprit behind it

 
2012-07-15 07:29:11 PM

Happy Hours: cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.

A lot of so-called liberals were quick to tell Bush he could wage all the war he felt like and even encouraged him by appropriating money for him to do so.

Liberals were pretty happy when Obama flew sorties over Libya.

Why wouldn't liberals at least want us to help out the Syrian rebels by shooting down helicopters and immobilizing land-based armor?


That headline seems to imply an invasion, not some focused actions.
 
2012-07-15 07:31:26 PM

Shostie: cman: logistic: Israeli propaganda is Israeli.

Yeah! Israel is a horrible nation responsible for the destruction of many societies. A water main broke on a Lebanese street yesterday. Of course, Israel was the only culprit behind it


Goddamn it. I bet the Jews rejected that image, too...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-15 07:52:43 PM

cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.


The give away is the have oil part, no well read liberal would have included that fun fact considering how little they produce. Only a conservative would bring it up because it's about a quarter of their economy.
 
2012-07-15 08:01:25 PM

sno man: cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.

The give away is the have oil part, no well read liberal would have included that fun fact considering how little they produce. Only a conservative would bring it up because it's about a quarter of their economy.


A quarter of their economy is still a farkload
 
2012-07-15 08:16:44 PM
Read the title as: "Defecating Syrian.."
 
2012-07-15 08:20:44 PM

sammyk:

If we lift finger in Syria its on like donkey kong with Iran. Do we really want another decade of fighting two middle east wars?


Hey, it's good for business, if you're in the right business.

/ Really, really sick of this ME shiat
 
2012-07-15 08:20:53 PM

cman: sno man: cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.

The give away is the have oil part, no well read liberal would have included that fun fact considering how little they produce. Only a conservative would bring it up because it's about a quarter of their economy.

A quarter of their economy is still a farkload


Big deal to Syria, yea. but. Very Small Player.... .5% globally...
 
2012-07-15 08:24:38 PM
if Romney starts polling ahead then nothing would surprise this Farker, otherwise drones know very little geographical limitations and Obama may as well, I mean, to re-asertain US relevance and all...

/"liberal"
 
2012-07-15 08:24:45 PM
Patients subby, the GOP are still working on their talking points before they start pushing for Obama to do something, then once he gives the go ahead to send in the calvary, complain that we are intervening.
 
2012-07-15 08:25:18 PM

sno man: cman: sno man: cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.

The give away is the have oil part, no well read liberal would have included that fun fact considering how little they produce. Only a conservative would bring it up because it's about a quarter of their economy.

A quarter of their economy is still a farkload

Big deal to Syria, yea. but. Very Small Player.... .5% globally...


Almost all Syrian oil production goes to domestic use.
 
2012-07-15 08:25:24 PM

marius2: Read the title as: "Defecating Syrian.."


Well, I suppose it is possible that this guy is full of shiat.
 
2012-07-15 08:25:32 PM
that word. it doesn't mean what I think it means
 
2012-07-15 08:25:41 PM

cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?


1) Lack of a serious opposition. The Libyan opposition quickly had in-country support of people willing to start the new government (not that it ultimately went well) and a large stretch of land with coastal access which they could get supplies in at. The Syrian opposition has absolutely none of that. They control no areas, and the people who say they want to lead the new gov't are in Turkey jerking off while a bunch of random people in random places are fighting. If it wasn't for the fact that countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar were openly arming the rebels this would probably be over already.
2) Sort of on point #2, where do we bomb? Everywhere? The opposition sounds like they're just scattered all over the country. There's no clear east/west divide like with Libya.
3) Russia will never support it because they have a base in Syria and they sell them lots of weapons, and China will never support it because they're starting to get antsy about people getting into their own business if they ever want to do the same thing Syria is doing.
4) Syria has a much more powerful military than Libya did. It's not to say NATO couldn't pound them into dust, but it wouldn't be as easy.
5) Libya had all of its important stuff on the coast and the rest of it was essentially a tribal wasteland. Syria is more developed so it's more difficult to attack.

I'm sure there's more reasons, but that's off the top of my head. My expertise only runs as far as "I read about this stuff a lot and I watch the news a lot" but just comparing this to Libya, I'd easily assume that taking out Syria would mean ground troops at some point.
 
2012-07-15 08:25:44 PM

cman: St_Francis_P: Lsherm: Why in the hell do Fark libs now think it's a good idea to fight in another Middle East war? They're two steps away from full civil war, why would we want to get involved with that? Even their neighbors don't want any part of it.

You seriously think a lib posted that headline?

I second this.

This is not your typical Liberal headline.


Of course it's a liberal headline. It was written to look like a non-liberal wrote it so that all of you liberals can have yet another anti-anyone-who's-not-liberal circle jerk.
 
2012-07-15 08:26:04 PM
What are we waiting for?

For Russia to longer exist?
 
2012-07-15 08:26:04 PM

St_Francis_P: cman: I am not trying to troll here, serious question.

Obama intervened in Libya. I am curious, what is different about Syria? Why not interven there?

I'm pretty sure it's because there is no UN consensus. If he gets Russia and China aboard, it may happen.


More to the point, France wanted it and were the face of it. No one wants to lead a charge in to Syria, so the US will stay out of it(overtly).
 
2012-07-15 08:26:28 PM
Waiting for the "SYRIA HAS WMD's and can ATTACK ISRAEL IN 45 MINUTES!!!!!

Syria was also involved in 9/11, and is causing the recent solar flares.
 
2012-07-15 08:26:54 PM

MisterLoki: What are we waiting for?

For Russia to no longer exist?


*sigh*
 
2012-07-15 08:28:41 PM
One last question. Did they get the YELLOW CAKE URANIUM?
 
2012-07-15 08:29:34 PM

MisterLoki: What are we waiting for?

For Russia to longer exist?


See, Reagan knew what he was doing when outlawing the existence of Russia.

/my partner is Russian...
//should have posted under my older username
 
2012-07-15 08:31:58 PM
Suddenly all of the jaded and cynical farkers bite yet again on an obvious piece of shiat.

Why is this guy believable? You all trust him and what he has to say. Why?

/because you want to?
 
2012-07-15 08:32:50 PM
Because if a defector says it, it must be true
 
2012-07-15 08:33:36 PM
Can we please wait 'till my IRR commitment has lapsed before starting another futile conflict? Two is enough.
 
2012-07-15 08:33:55 PM

MisterLoki: What are we waiting for?

For Russia to longer exist?


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Perhaps Obama is getting tired of killing innocent people?
 
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