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(NYPost)   Re-Erection Campaign: Disgraced former Congressman Anthony Weiner's not shrinking from elected office, mulls running for Mayor of NYC   (nypost.com) divider line 77
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2012-07-15 03:45:35 PM  
What a dick.
 
2012-07-15 03:46:13 PM  
...but you fark one goat....
 
2012-07-15 03:46:59 PM  
Repeal the soda ban and he might be able to win over New Yorkers.
 
2012-07-15 03:47:04 PM  
Well, to be fair, it's not like he lied to the SEC or something.
 
2012-07-15 03:48:32 PM  
(I'd vote for him. He's a smart fellow, keen communicator, has a good understanding of several complex issues and systems -- a good public resource -- and it's kind of a waste to ban him for life for such a minor *cough* offense.)
 
2012-07-15 03:49:01 PM  
That takes some balls.
 
2012-07-15 03:50:31 PM  
sounds like that election would be a tweet, as long as he doesn't get caught with his pants down, otherwise, his campaign might end up junk.
 
2012-07-15 03:52:26 PM  
Politically speaking, he probably shouldn't have resigned. Clinton, Vitter, and others from both sides of the aisle have done far worse and did not resign. He would have weathered it.
 
2012-07-15 03:56:03 PM  

drewsclues: Politically speaking, he probably shouldn't have resigned. Clinton, Vitter, and others from both sides of the aisle have done far worse and did not resign. He would have weathered it.


Weiner could've weathered it easily had he just fessed up at the beginning instead of claiming his account was hacked. The week of bullshiatting left him twisting in the wind.

I hope both he and Eliot Spitzer storm back into public office.
 
2012-07-15 03:57:27 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: drewsclues: Politically speaking, he probably shouldn't have resigned. Clinton, Vitter, and others from both sides of the aisle have done far worse and did not resign. He would have weathered it.

Weiner could've weathered it easily had he just fessed up at the beginning instead of claiming his account was hacked. The week of bullshiatting left him twisting in the wind.

I hope both he and Eliot Spitzer storm back into public office.


Yeah, Vitter was with a New Orleans call girl and all it took for the public to forgive him was apologize and to promise to never do it again.
 
2012-07-15 03:59:51 PM  

Mrtraveler01: TofuTheAlmighty: drewsclues: Politically speaking, he probably shouldn't have resigned. Clinton, Vitter, and others from both sides of the aisle have done far worse and did not resign. He would have weathered it.

Weiner could've weathered it easily had he just fessed up at the beginning instead of claiming his account was hacked. The week of bullshiatting left him twisting in the wind.

I hope both he and Eliot Spitzer storm back into public office.

Yeah, Vitter was with a New Orleans call girl and all it took for the public to forgive him was apologize and to promise to never do it again.


It helps too when the Congressional GOP opened him back with open arms and applause.
 
2012-07-15 04:00:27 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: (I'd vote for him. He's a smart fellow, keen communicator, has a good understanding of several complex issues and systems -- a good public resource -- and it's kind of a waste to ban him for life for such a minor *cough* offense.)


Agreed. He did one seriously dipshiat thing, but he was actually pretty good as congresscritters go, aside from that. I wish Americans in general would have a better sense of priorities with regard to the sexual transgressions of our politicians. If all they're doing is cheating on their spouses with consenting adults, it really shouldn't be a resignation-worthy offense----it's not like adultery is against the law. If they're farking sheep or children, they need to go to prison. But legal, if immoral, activities shouldn't disqualify anyone from running for office.
 
2012-07-15 04:09:33 PM  
He'd be better than that dick currently in office.
 
2012-07-15 04:09:50 PM  
He should pull out
 
2012-07-15 04:14:22 PM  
Every farker who ever sent WIE now....

withdraws.
 
2012-07-15 04:18:10 PM  
Just go get a regular job. Stop it.
 
2012-07-15 04:18:46 PM  
I'm pretty sure none of the Founding FathersTM would ever make it through vetting in today's political environment. So I try not to hold things like this against politicians as long as they're doing their job reasonably well.
 
2012-07-15 04:20:59 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Lenny_da_Hog: (I'd vote for him. He's a smart fellow, keen communicator, has a good understanding of several complex issues and systems -- a good public resource -- and it's kind of a waste to ban him for life for such a minor *cough* offense.)

Agreed. He did one seriously dipshiat thing, but he was actually pretty good as congresscritters go, aside from that. I wish Americans in general would have a better sense of priorities with regard to the sexual transgressions of our politicians. If all they're doing is cheating on their spouses with consenting adults, it really shouldn't be a resignation-worthy offense----it's not like adultery is against the law. If they're farking sheep or children, they need to go to prison. But legal, if immoral, activities shouldn't disqualify anyone from running for office.


Agreed, although I will add that hypocrisy is a factor. For example, I don't want to see a congresscritter shouting on Thursday about how the gays are ruining America and families and don't deserve any rights and then hear on Friday that he spent his evening with two male prostitutes.

Same with abortion and birth control- if you're going to advocate for policies that treat sex like its bad and dirty and all the dirty whore ladies who do it deserve a punishment baby, than I'm probably not going to feel too sympathetic when I find out you cheat on your wife like its your job.

Weiner? Was a progressive congressman who doesn't try to control anyone else's sex life and who engaged in freaking sexy internet chats with someone and got caught at it. He quit over sending WIE. It barely even counts as a sex scandal.

I HOPE he manages to redeem his political career.
 
2012-07-15 04:33:17 PM  

Genevieve Marie: HMS_Blinkin: Lenny_da_Hog:
Weiner? Was a progressive congressman who doesn't try to control anyone else's sex life and who engaged in freaking sexy internet chats with someone and got caught at it. He quit over sending WIE. It barely even counts as a sex scandal.

I HOPE he manages to redeem his political career.


My only problem with it is the hacking claim/lying, but I can understand someone being super embarrassed and making the wrong choice in that situation, especially if its the first time he's ever been faced with one like that.

I think he could possibly redeem himself in this campaign, and one of the smartest moves he could make would be go back on The Daily Show with his (at least in the past) good friend John Stewart, and have Stewart ask him the tough questions. He'd be talking to someone who doesn't hate him, he could get it out in the open and apologize with even a little humorous flair, and probably move on pretty easily from there as long as he's not stupid enough to do anything like it again.
 
2012-07-15 04:51:15 PM  

Mrtraveler01: TofuTheAlmighty: drewsclues: Politically speaking, he probably shouldn't have resigned. Clinton, Vitter, and others from both sides of the aisle have done far worse and did not resign. He would have weathered it.

Weiner could've weathered it easily had he just fessed up at the beginning instead of claiming his account was hacked. The week of bullshiatting left him twisting in the wind.

I hope both he and Eliot Spitzer storm back into public office.

Yeah, Vitter was with a multiple New Orleans call girlS while crusading against prostitution and for "family values" and all it took for the public to forgive him was apologize and to promise to never do it again even though he opposed a Congressional amendment to punish government contractors that didn't allow employees to be prosecuted for the rapes they committed.


FTFY...sorry; I keep wanting to FTFY people today, but I don't mean anything by it in your case.
 
2012-07-15 04:51:42 PM  
A shirtless picture of me with every tax return!
 
2012-07-15 04:55:40 PM  

ladyfortuna: Genevieve Marie: HMS_Blinkin: Lenny_da_Hog:
Weiner? Was a progressive congressman who doesn't try to control anyone else's sex life and who engaged in freaking sexy internet chats with someone and got caught at it. He quit over sending WIE. It barely even counts as a sex scandal.

I HOPE he manages to redeem his political career.

My only problem with it is the hacking claim/lying, but I can understand someone being super embarrassed and making the wrong choice in that situation, especially if its the first time he's ever been faced with one like that.

I think he could possibly redeem himself in this campaign, and one of the smartest moves he could make would be go back on The Daily Show with his (at least in the past) good friend John Stewart, and have Stewart ask him the tough questions. He'd be talking to someone who doesn't hate him, he could get it out in the open and apologize with even a little humorous flair, and probably move on pretty easily from there as long as he's not stupid enough to do anything like it again.


It worked for Hugh Grant. "Mr. Weiner, what the hell were you thinking?"

/also a boon for Leno
 
2012-07-15 04:58:59 PM  

Genevieve Marie: he quit


To be totally clear, he was pressured into quitting largely by his own party to keep his issue from dominating the 2010 elections. Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about. But the media treated Weinergate like it was, well, bigger than Watergate.
 
2012-07-15 05:00:55 PM  

bugontherug: Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about.


Ya, I think the novelty wore off a long time ago.
 
2012-07-15 05:04:03 PM  

Pincy: bugontherug: Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about.

Ya, I think the novelty wore off a long time ago.


I considered the word "anymore" at the end of that sentence, but decided against it. But yes, conservative sexual hypocrisy is pretty much expected these days. I'd be worried about a Republican who wasn't secretly boning his male aides or snorting cocaine off hookers' asses.
 
2012-07-15 05:11:24 PM  

ladyfortuna: I think he could possibly redeem himself in this campaign, and one of the smartest moves he could make would be go back on The Daily Show with his (at least in the past) good friend John Stewart, and have Stewart ask him the tough questions. He'd be talking to someone who doesn't hate him, he could get it out in the open and apologize with even a little humorous flair, and probably move on pretty easily from there as long as he's not stupid enough to do anything like it again.


Yup, I agree, that would be a really smart move. The lying didn't even really bother me- it was a white lie, meant to cover up personal humiliation not cover for something illegal or something that really reflected on his career in any way.

bugontherug: Genevieve Marie: he quit

To be totally clear, he was pressured into quitting largely by his own party to keep his issue from dominating the 2010 elections. Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about. But the media treated Weinergate like it was, well, bigger than Watergate.


Yup, that's a valid point. It was actually pretty disgusting that the Democratic party let it happen. When Republicans do wrong, they all band together which is why they're damn near untouchable. David Vitter STILL gives speeches on sexual morality and how he believes in abstinence and idiots eat it up.
 
2012-07-15 05:13:53 PM  
Wait, so did Bat Boy's lieutenant governor resign yet? She was just caught being involved in repeated acts of sexual impropriety.
 
2012-07-15 05:16:21 PM  

Genevieve Marie: Yup, that's a valid point. It was actually pretty disgusting that the Democratic party let it happen. When Republicans do wrong, they all band together which is why they're damn near untouchable.


Contrary to popular belief, the media environment is really strongly pro-Republican. I like Anthony Weiner, and I don't think what he did was resignation-worthy. But I also understand the national party's position: the Republicans can have 8, 10, 12 sex real sex scandals, and it doesn't really matter. But the media would have let Weinergate define the Democratic Party for one or more election cycles. The Democrats don't have the luxury of circling the wagons in response to scandal. Politically, he had to go.

On the other hand, there is something to be said for being able to legitimately say that the Democratic Party has higher moral standards than the Republican Party.
 
2012-07-15 05:16:31 PM  

bugontherug: To be totally clear, he was pressured into quitting largely by his own party to keep his issue from dominating the 2010 elections. Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about. But the media treated Weinergate like it was, well, bigger than Watergate.


We get it, no one talks enough about the things you want them to talk about even if we're talking about them.

The funny thing with the Weiner twitter scandal was I nailed it from the get go and properly parsed the evidence. I received a lot of abuse from a lot of posters. None of whom have apologized to me. Oddly enough it became a bigger scandal because they ensured the fake debunking got out far and wide. It's subsequent debunking made it a well known scandal.
 
2012-07-15 05:18:06 PM  

bugontherug: On the other hand, there is something to be said for being able to legitimately say that the Democratic Party has higher moral standards than the Republican Party.


I hope you get paid for your cheerleading. I'd hate to see such fine work go for free.
 
2012-07-15 05:18:42 PM  
It couldn't hurt that his wife is BFFs with Hillary Clinton, who knows a thing or two about high profile sex scandals.
 
2012-07-15 05:19:15 PM  

Mrbogey: bugontherug: To be totally clear, he was pressured into quitting largely by his own party to keep his issue from dominating the 2010 elections. Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about. But the media treated Weinergate like it was, well, bigger than Watergate.

We get it, no one talks enough about the things you want them to talk about even if we're talking about them.

The funny thing with the Weiner twitter scandal was I nailed it from the get go and properly parsed the evidence. I received a lot of abuse from a lot of posters. None of whom have apologized to me. Oddly enough it became a bigger scandal because they ensured the fake debunking got out far and wide. It's subsequent debunking made it a well known scandal.


Why do you care if a grown man sends pictures of his underpants to grown women who wanted them? Are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest?
 
2012-07-15 05:21:29 PM  
It's not like Bloomberg is any great shakes, but if the Dems want to recycle a scandal plagued candidate to run against him, I'd have preferred Spitzer
 
2012-07-15 05:23:29 PM  

tooeasy: It's not like Bloomberg is any great shakes, but if the Dems want to recycle a scandal plagued candidate to run against him, I'd have preferred Spitzer


But...but...Spitzer had consensual sex in exchange for money. That's not legal unless it's being taped for a porn movie. Think of how he was taking advantage of those young women; he paid for their flights and their hotel rooms and thousands of dollars a day for their time.

It's a nightmare...
 
2012-07-15 05:24:18 PM  

Mrbogey: bugontherug: To be totally clear, he was pressured into quitting largely by his own party to keep his issue from dominating the 2010 elections. Republicans in real sex scandals barely get talked about. But the media treated Weinergate like it was, well, bigger than Watergate.

We get it, no one talks enough about the things you want them to talk about even if we're talking about them.

The funny thing with the Weiner twitter scandal was I nailed it from the get go and properly parsed the evidence. I received a lot of abuse from a lot of posters. None of whom have apologized to me. Oddly enough it became a bigger scandal because they ensured the fake debunking got out far and wide. It's subsequent debunking made it a well known scandal.


The funny this is that this has nothing to do with the argument at hand.

Poster 1: The Dems pressured Weiner to quit. Republicans barely get the press for sex scandals (not sure I agree here, but that's what he said).
You: I totally called the Weiner scandal.
Me: Who gives a f*ck, dude. Seriously, that was Grade A PhD level deflection except for the part it was so damn obvious. Do you live on a cross or do you just get your mom to nail you up there each night for bed?
 
2012-07-15 05:27:00 PM  

gimmegimme: Why do you care if a grown man sends pictures of his underpants to grown women who wanted them? Are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest?


I became interested when his defenders started slinging insults out at Republicans over it. All they had to do was say it wasn't a big deal and leave it at that. But no. Their hatred of Republicans and Breitbart in particular made them amp up the issue till it became a big story.

Yea, Craig, Ensign, and Vitter... nobody knows who they are at all or what they did. Damn conservative media suppressing the truth.
 
2012-07-15 05:27:21 PM  
Penis gourd
 
2012-07-15 05:28:22 PM  

Mrbogey: gimmegimme: Why do you care if a grown man sends pictures of his underpants to grown women who wanted them? Are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest?

I became interested when his defenders started slinging insults out at Republicans over it. All they had to do was say it wasn't a big deal and leave it at that. But no. Their hatred of Republicans and Breitbart in particular made them amp up the issue till it became a big story.

Yea, Craig, Ensign, and Vitter... nobody knows who they are at all or what they did. Damn conservative media suppressing the truth.


You didn't answer the dude's question.
 
2012-07-15 05:28:44 PM  

bugontherug: Genevieve Marie: Yup, that's a valid point. It was actually pretty disgusting that the Democratic party let it happen. When Republicans do wrong, they all band together which is why they're damn near untouchable.

Contrary to popular belief, the media environment is really strongly pro-Republican. I like Anthony Weiner, and I don't think what he did was resignation-worthy. But I also understand the national party's position: the Republicans can have 8, 10, 12 sex real sex scandals, and it doesn't really matter. But the media would have let Weinergate define the Democratic Party for one or more election cycles. The Democrats don't have the luxury of circling the wagons in response to scandal. Politically, he had to go.

On the other hand, there is something to be said for being able to legitimately say that the Democratic Party has higher moral standards than the Republican Party.


All valid points. The whole thing was just so frustrating to watch though.
 
2012-07-15 05:29:20 PM  

gimmegimme: tooeasy: It's not like Bloomberg is any great shakes, but if the Dems want to recycle a scandal plagued candidate to run against him, I'd have preferred Spitzer

But...but...Spitzer had consensual sex in exchange for money. That's not legal unless it's being taped for a porn movie. Think of how he was taking advantage of those young women; he paid for their flights and their hotel rooms and thousands of dollars a day for their time.

It's a nightmare...


all indications are that Spitzer was, on a personal level, a friggin prick, but, as a politician, he was awesomw

/don't really care about the man's personal life
 
2012-07-15 05:30:18 PM  

coeyagi: The funny this is that this has nothing to do with the argument at hand.


The funny thing is two separate thoughts can be expressed in the same post.

I get it, you're butthurt over the issue and it makes you angry. Why don't you go lay down on your side and try to not defend people who fark up next time.
 
2012-07-15 05:32:53 PM  
The guy was good at his job.
I was so angry that he did something that dumb to get himself knocked out of office. I really hope he gets back in the game 'cause we need more like him.
 
2012-07-15 05:35:56 PM  

Mrbogey: coeyagi: The funny this is that this has nothing to do with the argument at hand.

The funny thing is two separate thoughts can be expressed in the same post.

I get it, you're butthurt over the issue and it makes you angry. Why don't you go lay down on your side and try to not defend people who fark up next time.


So are you going to retroactively fix your post or what? Ed Gillespie says it can be done.
 
2012-07-15 05:36:01 PM  

coeyagi: Mrbogey: gimmegimme: Why do you care if a grown man sends pictures of his underpants to grown women who wanted them? Are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest?

I became interested when his defenders started slinging insults out at Republicans over it. All they had to do was say it wasn't a big deal and leave it at that. But no. Their hatred of Republicans and Breitbart in particular made them amp up the issue till it became a big story.

Yea, Craig, Ensign, and Vitter... nobody knows who they are at all or what they did. Damn conservative media suppressing the truth.

You didn't answer the dude's question.


Maybe he didn't hear it: Are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest as you are of Weiner, who committed a far less serious act that wasn't even illegal?
 
2012-07-15 05:37:03 PM  

coeyagi: You didn't answer the dude's question.


I never called for Weiner's resignation. Go on and luck up the threads.
 
2012-07-15 05:37:48 PM  

Mrbogey: coeyagi: You didn't answer the dude's question.

I never called for Weiner's resignation. Go on and luck up the threads.


Is this really that difficult of a task?
 
2012-07-15 05:40:02 PM  

coeyagi: Is this really that difficult of a task?


Most sane people realize, "I didn't call for his resignation" is an acceptable response to "are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest".

How much less judgmental can you be than not judging someone?
 
2012-07-15 05:41:31 PM  

Mrbogey: coeyagi: Is this really that difficult of a task?

Most sane people realize, "I didn't call for his resignation" is an acceptable response to "are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest".

How much less judgmental can you be than not judging someone?


Okay, so I guess you will make me ask the questions in multiple parts. You did not call for Weiner's resignation. Do you feel that Ensign, Vitter, Craig and all of the others should have resigned, considering their crimes were far more serious and actually illegal?
 
2012-07-15 05:44:02 PM  

Mrbogey: coeyagi: Is this really that difficult of a task?

Most sane people realize, "I didn't call for his resignation" is an acceptable response to "are you as judgmental of Ensign and Vitter and Craig and all the rest".

How much less judgmental can you be than not judging someone?


You only addressed one side of the equation... that you don't think Weiner should have resigned. We have no idea how you feel about the GOP side. It's almost like you're being evasive.
 
2012-07-15 05:48:36 PM  
The WIE thing that was the heart of Weinergate was no BFD. My big problem came from the fact that he had a legitimate shot to fess up and handle the thing when he went on TDS and he totally blew it. The Democratic party threw him under the bus a little too quickly for my liking back then. The corproate conservative media was brutal to the guy and the RW echo chambers and shills were even worse. He's spent a little time in the political wilderness making amends with his family and hopefully he's wised up. As far as I'm concerned he is welcome back to politics whenever he wants. Mayor of NYC might be a good fit. Something anyways.

/penis.
 
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