Someone break out the matrix..

Tricked by subby once again. Sigh.

jaylectricity: And by hittable, I assume you mean "willing to have sex."

No he means with a brick.

I applaud subby's definition of "hittable". The more guys out there willing to "take care" of certain segments of the female population, the less frequently the rest of us need to "take one for the team"

I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

A FELONY for that? In Maryland, if it were a few months further down the line, it would have been 100% legal (16 is the age of consent). How does a few months make the difference between a felony and completely legal? Shouldn't there be some kind of gradient in place? Like, a misdemeanor for having sex with a 15 year old, before jumping straight to felony?

I wonder if they have that little box in the corner that tells people what income you have. I'm also willing to bet he put it at +200k. Yeah babe, I'm 18 and make 6 figs.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Isn't this an Adam Sandler movie?

I've farked worse.

Hittable? Maybe as a slump buster. A very long slump buster.

When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything. It'll be interesting, though, someday to explain to the person who'll probably be born from this union who his daddy is, and why he is.

jack21221: A FELONY for that? In Maryland, if it were a few months further down the line, it would have been 100% legal (16 is the age of consent). How does a few months make the difference between a felony and completely legal? Shouldn't there be some kind of gradient in place? Like, a misdemeanor for having sex with a 15 year old, before jumping straight to felony?

I'm more concerned about how both sides stated that he told her he was 18. Other than mannerisms and possibly a young face (no way to tell without a picture) you would have no way to tell unless you asked for ID. Even then people fake IDs and folks have been arrested for this despite being shown an ID that turned out to be fake. They need to change the laws for cases like this.

Back in the day, this situation was the precursor to a shotgun wedding, and most of us probably have at least one in their family tree. (I have quite a few.)

meh... drunkworthy

Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything. It'll be interesting, though, someday to explain to the person who'll probably be born from this union who his daddy is, and why he is.

Actually since he lied about his age to her, he should be on the hook for the baby. Period.

ChrisDe: Hittable? Maybe as a slump buster. A very long slump buster.

Ha!
/sadly I'm not there yet, but with enough booze I'd heavily consider it.

Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

That might not be too far from what happens. They'll likely throw the woman in prison, take her child away, and leave him or her to be raised by the boy's family.

Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

What's the alternative? Some kid who never asked to be the child of a 15 year old doesn't get support? Child support isn't a punishment of the parent, it's a right of the child, so any time your argument ignores the existence of the child, you're going to lose.

deadcrickets: Actually since he lied about his age to her, he should be on the hook for the baby. Period.

I think it was the lack of a period that got them both in trouble.

I was expecting a white chick.
/A 15 year old would nail a orange with a hole in it

23 skidoo!

ExperianScaresCthulhu: FTFA: Thompson told police she later discovered the boy was 15, but they continued having sex until she became pregnant.

Proof positive that biatches don't fk without protection unless they WANT to get pregnant.

You're assuming they stopped having sex after she became pregnant. Otherwise, it's just proof positive that biatches love cock.

/not unlike yourself, I'm sure

deadcrickets: Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything. It'll be interesting, though, someday to explain to the person who'll probably be born from this union who his daddy is, and why he is.

Actually since he lied about his age to her, he should be on the hook for the baby. Period.

So if a woman lies about being on birth control, should she be on the hook, period?

Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything.

Conversely, you're saying "I hope that child doesn't end up with support". Is that what you actually believe?

Theaetetus: Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

What's the alternative? Some kid who never asked to be the child of a 15 year old doesn't get support? Child support isn't a punishment of the parent, it's a right of the child, so any time your argument ignores the existence of the child, you're going to lose.

The father was legally incapable of giving consent - he was, by definition, raped. Saying that someone who was raped is on the hook for the kid is a dangerous slope.

Theaetetus: Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything.

Conversely, you're saying "I hope that child doesn't end up with support". Is that what you actually believe?

If a woman is raped, she can have an abortion (as she absolutely should be able to). This kid was raped.

This is what happens when you let gays marry.
/derp

i think everyone who gets pregnant should get a news article automatically written about them.
regardless of age.

then we can just run filters on the ages in the database to determine which pregnancies are illegal and should be terminated

Lord Dimwit: Theaetetus: Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

What's the alternative? Some kid who never asked to be the child of a 15 year old doesn't get support? Child support isn't a punishment of the parent, it's a right of the child, so any time your argument ignores the existence of the child, you're going to lose.

The father was legally incapable of giving consent - he was, by definition, raped.

And? Is he the father? Yes? Then see above. Child support is the right of the child. It's not a punishment for an action you "consented" to.

Saying that someone who was raped is on the hook for the kid is a dangerous slope.

No, it isn't. But let's go ahead with this fallacy - where do you imagine the end of this slope? We're at "parents are responsible for support of their kids, period" so where does it slide to?

Theaetetus

Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything.

Conversely, you're saying "I hope that child doesn't end up with support". Is that what you actually believe?


And you conveniently skipped the idea that the mother should have to support the child in some way. Is that what you actually believe?

Lord Dimwit: Theaetetus: Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything.

Conversely, you're saying "I hope that child doesn't end up with support". Is that what you actually believe?

If a woman is raped, she can have an abortion (as she absolutely should be able to). This kid was raped.

And he could absolutely have any medical procedure done that he wants. What's your point?

I want to know what her sentence will be. Maybe a spanking. Women don't get jail time in any substantial amount for farking underage teens.

I am also guessing he is not traumatized. I mean she is not that bad.

Englebert Slaptyback: Theaetetus

Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything.

Conversely, you're saying "I hope that child doesn't end up with support". Is that what you actually believe?


And you conveniently skipped the idea that the mother should have to support the child in some way. Is that what you actually believe?

Really? Can you cut and paste where I said that?
No.
You can't.
Of course you can't, because I didn't. What I did say was:
Theaetetus: parents are responsible for support of their kids, period

Is the mother a parent of the kid? Yes?
Then she's responsible for support.

Lord Dimwit: Theaetetus: Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

What's the alternative? Some kid who never asked to be the child of a 15 year old doesn't get support? Child support isn't a punishment of the parent, it's a right of the child, so any time your argument ignores the existence of the child, you're going to lose.

The father was legally incapable of giving consent - he was, by definition, raped. Saying that someone who was raped is on the hook for the kid is a dangerous slope.

Bullsh*t. The kid was trolling the web and lying about his age so he could get laid. He is not a victim and he wasn't raped. Yes, he should be on the hook for child support. I'm sure he knew how babies were made.
If he shot somebody during a robbery he could be convicted as an adult.

I ordered chicken tacos and got beef.

Lord Dimwit: If a woman is raped, she can have an abortion (as she absolutely should be able to). This kid was raped.

WTF planet are you from? Even if a woman isn't raped, she can have an abortion. And the boy isn't the one that's pregnant. This is a horrible analogy on your part.

This kid was a victim of statutory rape and now the state will come after him for child support.....farking amazing.

Let me try to make this clear for all the "if she can have an abortion, why can't he opt out of child support" folks...

Here's the rule:
Kid is born? Kid is entitled to support from both parents.

That's it. That's the entire rule, and there's no "but, but, but I didn't consent to having a kid" or "she could have had an abortion, and she didn't, so therefore I get to stop paying support" or the like. Kid exists? Kid gets support.

"But, it's not faaaaaaaaaair."

Okay, if it's about fairness, where's the fairness in someone getting to take away the rights of the child, unilaterally, without that child having done anything other than being born? The kid certainly didn't consent to waive that support obligation.
In other words: if you cry about fairness and you don't mention the kid who loses support, you are a hypocrite.

Theaetetus: Let me try to make this clear for all the "if she can have an abortion, why can't he opt out of child support" folks...

Here's the rule:
Kid is born? Kid is entitled to support from both parents.

That's it. That's the entire rule, and there's no "but, but, but I didn't consent to having a kid" or "she could have had an abortion, and she didn't, so therefore I get to stop paying support" or the like. Kid exists? Kid gets support.

"But, it's not faaaaaaaaaair."

Okay, if it's about fairness, where's the fairness in someone getting to take away the rights of the child, unilaterally, without that child having done anything other than being born? The kid certainly didn't consent to waive that support obligation.
In other words: if you cry about fairness and you don't mention the kid who loses support, you are a hypocrite.

Kids should receive support, but should a rape victim be responsible the damages that result from a crime committed against the victim?

AbbeySomeone: Lord Dimwit: Theaetetus: Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

What's the alternative? Some kid who never asked to be the child of a 15 year old doesn't get support? Child support isn't a punishment of the parent, it's a right of the child, so any time your argument ignores the existence of the child, you're going to lose.

The father was legally incapable of giving consent - he was, by definition, raped. Saying that someone who was raped is on the hook for the kid is a dangerous slope.

Bullsh*t. The kid was trolling the web and lying about his age so he could get laid. He is not a victim and he wasn't raped. Yes, he should be on the hook for child support. I'm sure he knew how babies were made.
If he shot somebody during a robbery he could be convicted as an adult.

Under the law, he was raped, period. His actions prior to the sexual intercourse are immaterial - the law is 100% clear. He was legally incapable of consenting.

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that he was capable of consenting, but didn't. He was held down and raped and she got pregnant. Should the boy still be on the hook for child support then?

Lord Dimwit: But let's say, for the sake of argument, that he was capable of consenting, but didn't. He was held down and raped and she got pregnant. Should the boy still be on the hook for child support then?

If a woman is held down and raped, she's on the hook for supporting her child, too, you know.

Theaetetus: Let me try to make this clear for all the "if she can have an abortion, why can't he opt out of child support" folks...

Here's the rule:
Kid is born? Kid is entitled to support from both parents.

That's it. That's the entire rule, and there's no "but, but, but I didn't consent to having a kid" or "she could have had an abortion, and she didn't, so therefore I get to stop paying support" or the like. Kid exists? Kid gets support.

"But, it's not faaaaaaaaaair."

Okay, if it's about fairness, where's the fairness in someone getting to take away the rights of the child, unilaterally, without that child having done anything other than being born? The kid certainly didn't consent to waive that support obligation.
In other words: if you cry about fairness and you don't mention the kid who loses support, you are a hypocrite.

A mother who is a rape victim has the unilateral right to give up the child for adoption without the consent of the father, removing any responsibility for support to the child. This kid was raped, therefore he should have the right to give up his responsibility of support unilaterally.

Theaetetus: Let me try to make this clear for all the "if she can have an abortion, why can't he opt out of child support" folks...

Here's the rule:
Kid is born? Kid is entitled to support from both parents.

That's it. That's the entire rule, and there's no "but, but, but I didn't consent to having a kid" or "she could have had an abortion, and she didn't, so therefore I get to stop paying support" or the like. Kid exists? Kid gets support.

"But, it's not faaaaaaaaaair."

Okay, if it's about fairness, where's the fairness in someone getting to take away the rights of the child, unilaterally, without that child having done anything other than being born? The kid certainly didn't consent to waive that support obligation.
In other words: if you cry about fairness and you don't mention the kid who loses support, you are a hypocrite.

If a kid is entitled to support, a kid is entitled to life itself.
A woman gets to choose whether that life is allowed or taken away, though.
A man does not.

I agree that a woman who wants a child should be responsible for that child.
I do not agree that a man who does not want a child should still be responsible for that child.

Get rid of child support. It only makes things worse.

jack21221: Lord Dimwit: But let's say, for the sake of argument, that he was capable of consenting, but didn't. He was held down and raped and she got pregnant. Should the boy still be on the hook for child support then?

If a woman is held down and raped, she's on the hook for supporting her child, too, you know.

No, she has the right - unilaterally, without the consent of the father - to give the child up for adoption (as, of course, she should).

jack21221: Lord Dimwit: But let's say, for the sake of argument, that he was capable of consenting, but didn't. He was held down and raped and she got pregnant. Should the boy still be on the hook for child support then?

If a woman is held down and raped, she's on the hook for supporting her child, too, you know.

Which is ethically wrong. A vandal who breaks a window should be responsible for replacing that window, not the homeowner.

deadcrickets: Huck And Molly Ziegler: When half your allowance goes to child support, you might be a redneck.

But seriously ... I hope the boy's not on the hook for anything. It'll be interesting, though, someday to explain to the person who'll probably be born from this union who his daddy is, and why he is.

Actually since he lied about his age to her, he should be on the hook for the baby. Period.

On the flip side of this coin:
My sister was 15 when she got pregnant by her 23 year old boyfriend. No authorities were brought in because my parents went to church with his parents etc. Do you think she "got off the hook" from baby raising? Fark no.

Makin' babies takes 2 people.

/csb
//I'm 27 and have yet to procreate because of that.

Lord Dimwit: AbbeySomeone: Lord Dimwit: Theaetetus: Lord Dimwit: I bet the boy, even though he was legally raped, is on the hook for child support.

What's the alternative? Some kid who never asked to be the child of a 15 year old doesn't get support? Child support isn't a punishment of the parent, it's a right of the child, so any time your argument ignores the existence of the child, you're going to lose.

The father was legally incapable of giving consent - he was, by definition, raped. Saying that someone who was raped is on the hook for the kid is a dangerous slope.

Bullsh*t. The kid was trolling the web and lying about his age so he could get laid. He is not a victim and he wasn't raped. Yes, he should be on the hook for child support. I'm sure he knew how babies were made.
If he shot somebody during a robbery he could be convicted as an adult.

Under the law, he was raped, period. His actions prior to the sexual intercourse are immaterial - the law is 100% clear. He was legally incapable of consenting.

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that he was capable of consenting, but didn't. He was held down and raped and she got pregnant. Should the boy still be on the hook for child support then?

Your name suits you and your feeble 'argument' is pointless blather. He wasn't raped.