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2012-07-15 12:36:22 PM
Ha-ha! Subby reads Seventeen magazine!
 
2012-07-15 12:44:33 PM
Oh gosh. The first story is about how she started doing something (smoking pot) to impress a teenage boy and then being utterly shocked that the boy's personality then changed over the course of a year.

Honey, that's not the pot. That's farking LIFE.
 
2012-07-15 01:05:23 PM
The cool kids all read Sassy.
 
2012-07-15 01:15:35 PM
I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat
 
2012-07-15 01:29:01 PM
Happy Hours: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat


Tiger Beat had articles?
 
2012-07-15 03:39:31 PM
The My Little Pony Killer: Happy Hours: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat

Tiger Beat had articles?


Yes.

There was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVY JONES!" That was a popular article from 1966 to 1970. Then, it was replaced by "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVID CASSIDY!", which was a popular recurring article from 1970 to 1974. After that, the popular article from 1974 to 1976 was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! DONNY OSMOND!". The decade of the 70s was rounded out with many popular articles based upon the premise "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!"
 
2012-07-15 04:20:07 PM
FirstNationalBastard: The My Little Pony Killer: Happy Hours: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat

Tiger Beat had articles?

Yes.

There was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVY JONES!" That was a popular article from 1966 to 1970. Then, it was replaced by "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVID CASSIDY!", which was a popular recurring article from 1970 to 1974. After that, the popular article from 1974 to 1976 was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! DONNY OSMOND!". The decade of the 70s was rounded out with many popular articles based upon the premise "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!"


You're forgetting Leif Garret
 
2012-07-15 04:30:08 PM
Happy Hours: FirstNationalBastard: The My Little Pony Killer: Happy Hours: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat

Tiger Beat had articles?

Yes.

There was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVY JONES!" That was a popular article from 1966 to 1970. Then, it was replaced by "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVID CASSIDY!", which was a popular recurring article from 1970 to 1974. After that, the popular article from 1974 to 1976 was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! DONNY OSMOND!". The decade of the 70s was rounded out with many popular articles based upon the premise "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!"

You're forgetting Leif Garret


Fine, 1976-1978's popular articles were "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! LEIF GARRETT", While 1978 through 1980 was mostly "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!".
 
2012-07-15 04:51:53 PM
FirstNationalBastard: Happy Hours: FirstNationalBastard: The My Little Pony Killer: Happy Hours: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat

Tiger Beat had articles?

Yes.

There was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVY JONES!" That was a popular article from 1966 to 1970. Then, it was replaced by "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVID CASSIDY!", which was a popular recurring article from 1970 to 1974. After that, the popular article from 1974 to 1976 was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! DONNY OSMOND!". The decade of the 70s was rounded out with many popular articles based upon the premise "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!"

You're forgetting Leif Garret

Fine, 1976-1978's popular articles were "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! LEIF GARRETT", While 1978 through 1980 was mostly "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!".


I think we can all agree with the squee, howeva.

//jimmy carter, clearly.
 
2012-07-15 04:52:20 PM
BarkingUnicorn: Ha-ha! Subby reads Seventeen magazine!

fc04.deviantart.net
 
2012-07-15 05:02:12 PM
It could make you gain weight and get acne.

This warning brought to you by the Department for Pulling "Facts" Out of Our Ass.
 
2012-07-15 05:02:24 PM
Don't care either way. I do remember, however, during the days of the "Truth" campaign thinking that all those hip kids that were so offended by "big tobacco" probably had no problem firing up a bong when they got home. 'Cause, you know, marijuana's natural, unlike tobacco.
 
2012-07-15 05:03:37 PM
FirstNationalBastard: Happy Hours: FirstNationalBastard: The My Little Pony Killer: Happy Hours: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: The cool kids all read Sassy.

I thought it was Tiger Beat

Tiger Beat had articles?

Yes.

There was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVY JONES!" That was a popular article from 1966 to 1970. Then, it was replaced by "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! DAVID CASSIDY!", which was a popular recurring article from 1970 to 1974. After that, the popular article from 1974 to 1976 was "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! DONNY OSMOND!". The decade of the 70s was rounded out with many popular articles based upon the premise "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!"

You're forgetting Leif Garret

Fine, 1976-1978's popular articles were "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! LEIF GARRETT", While 1978 through 1980 was mostly "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JOHN TRAVOLTA!".


I cried when Davy Jones died. He was my first crush.
I loved Tiger Beat.
 
2012-07-15 05:05:59 PM
It could make you gain weight and get acne.

How to Deter Teenage Girls 101
 
2012-07-15 05:08:01 PM
A few days later, I went shopping. And on the ride home, I realized I'd left my purse - with the pot! - on the checkout counter. I went back into the store, and when I asked a greeter if he'd found it, he told me to wait. After about 20 minutes, a detective with a gun on his hip came toward me; I was terrified. He took me to the police station, where I told the truth about where I'd gotten the weed.

So some store clerk searches her purse and calls the cops? I seriously question the legality of this series of events.
 
2012-07-15 05:09:30 PM
I still miss 16 magazine. And Davy Jones. And Andy Gibb.

And the Bay City Rollers, even though all of them are still alive.

As for the weed haters: Big Pharma is just jealous.
 
2012-07-15 05:10:29 PM
fusillade762: A few days later, I went shopping. And on the ride home, I realized I'd left my purse - with the pot! - on the checkout counter. I went back into the store, and when I asked a greeter if he'd found it, he told me to wait. After about 20 minutes, a detective with a gun on his hip came toward me; I was terrified. He took me to the police station, where I told the truth about where I'd gotten the weed.

So some store clerk searches her purse and calls the cops? I seriously question the legality of this series of events.


It's legal, but unless her fingerprints are on the pot there are custody issues. Even with fingerprints there could be issues.
 
2012-07-15 05:11:07 PM
How can anyone seriously question the danger posed by marijuana?

Doesn't everyone know there is a non-trivial chance a new marijuana smoker will become a damn hippie?

/lives surrounded by hippies
 
2012-07-15 05:11:26 PM
I don't have enough information on pot to evaluate the dangers. I don't now any old, long time stoners anymore and I never used the stuff much myself, preferring booze instead.

I do recall noticing how much residue piled up in a tobacco pipe I used to use for pot. Much faster and much thicker than tobacco. I also recall a guy who lived across from me who really smoked pot and he had developed a 'smokers cough'.

Now, the pot today is stronger than the pot of my time meaning that it's been manipulated, the same as tobacco was. Aside from hybridization, I don't know what techniques have been used.

I do know that if Big Tobacco were to stop adding chemicals, concentrating the mix by spraying chopped leaf with 'tobacco tea' and return to using rice paper that the dangers of it would diminish dramatically.

Nat Sherman produces natural tobacco smokes, with no chemicals added. They do use the basic wood pulp cigarette paper but the difference between their smokes and commercial ones is dramatic. For one thing, they go out like cigars. For another, they taste more or less like a mild cigar.

Unfortunately, even when smokes were cheap, Nat Sherman's weren't and their cost today is very high.

Though pot is not as addicting as nicotine. The main addiction for it is psychological and not physical. However, tobacco companies can reduce the amount of nicotine in tobacco, since they spent decades increasing it.

It would be interesting to compare tobacco from back when it was first discovered to now and determine the amount of harm each version causes.

I might also note that people have smoked ginseng for centuries. I know of no related harm from that.
 
2012-07-15 05:13:24 PM
jj325: It could make you gain weight and get acne.

How to Deter Teenage Girls 101


....so what they're REALLY trying to do is encourage them to try cocaine instead?

s12.postimage.org

/Now there's something that'll fark your life up.
 
2012-07-15 05:13:39 PM
fusillade762: A few days later, I went shopping. And on the ride home, I realized I'd left my purse - with the pot! - on the checkout counter. I went back into the store, and when I asked a greeter if he'd found it, he told me to wait. After about 20 minutes, a detective with a gun on his hip came toward me; I was terrified. He took me to the police station, where I told the truth about where I'd gotten the weed.

So some store clerk searches her purse and calls the cops? I seriously question the legality of this series of events.


Ask David Crosby how that goes.

Similar story - he left behind some luggage at a hotel in NYC. Link

Of course, David Crosby is cooler so he also had a gun, ammo and a hunting knife in addition to his ounce of pot.
 
2012-07-15 05:19:24 PM
AbbeySomeone:
I cried when Davy Jones died. He was my first crush.
I loved Tiger Beat.


Micky Dolenzes.
 
2012-07-15 05:21:02 PM
How in any way, shape, or form is weed more dangerous than cigarettes?

/off to smoke a bowl, then have a cigarette.
 
2012-07-15 05:22:45 PM
It might be if you smoked 20 joints a day, everyday, like the average smoker.
 
2012-07-15 05:24:10 PM
TheJoe03: How in any way, shape, or form is weed more dangerous than cigarettes?

/off to smoke a bowl, then have a cigarette.


Because with weed you can go to prison, and dangerous things happen in prison.
 
2012-07-15 05:24:46 PM
Rik01: I do know that if Big Tobacco were to stop adding chemicals, concentrating the mix by spraying chopped leaf with 'tobacco tea' and return to using rice paper that the dangers of it would diminish dramatically.

You know this how?

Are there scientific studies?

Yeah, man. Tobacco is natural. If only those evil tobacco companies would stop manipulating it, it would be totally safe. Like you know, Native Americans never got cancer or anything, because their tobacco was like pure. That was before Philip Morris and RJR farked everything up and gave us all cancer.

I think Ron Harris said it the best on Barney Miller. He was typing up an arrest report and his suspect was telling him how he was a Native American and Native Americans introduced us to tobacco (as Ron is puffing away). He just looks at him and coughs and says (in an extremely sarcastic tone) "Thanks".
 
2012-07-15 05:27:14 PM
LarryDan43: It might be if you smoked 20 joints a day, everyday, like the average smoker.

^ That right there. Even then, I don't think we know the true "worst case scenario". I'm thinking at worse, you'll get smokers cough (which is really just because you irritated the crap out of your lungs, all day, every day, for years.)
 
2012-07-15 05:28:50 PM
Just getting off work. I'm going to take my dog outside and have a cigar. Goodnight everybody!
 
2012-07-15 05:30:16 PM
Boutros Boutros Boutros Boutros is incorrect. The cool kids read High Times.
 
2012-07-15 05:39:56 PM
www.thcfinder.com
 
2012-07-15 05:52:19 PM
ParadisePornoTheater:

As for the weed haters: Big Pharma is just jealous.


I'd much rather see old people have weed for their arthritis than downing all the damn pills. Old people eating a tray of pills everyday for breakfast. Not cool.
 
2012-07-15 05:53:10 PM
fusillade762: A few days later, I went shopping. And on the ride home, I realized I'd left my purse - with the pot! - on the checkout counter. I went back into the store, and when I asked a greeter if he'd found it, he told me to wait. After about 20 minutes, a detective with a gun on his hip came toward me; I was terrified. He took me to the police station, where I told the truth about where I'd gotten the weed.

So some store clerk searches her purse and calls the cops? I seriously question the legality of this series of events.


She left it in public, clerk searched it for info about how to get it back to it's owner. Nothing remotely illegal.

Of course teen was stupid for coping to the pot. Purse wasn't in her possesion. Claim she didn't know a farking thing about it and a possesion charge is pretty impossible to make stick. She was never provably in possesion and no was a DA wastes time on something so minor with such a weak chain of evidence.
 
2012-07-15 05:57:29 PM
fusillade762: where I told the truth about where I'd gotten the weed.

SNITCH! Who does that? It's weed not a murder.
 
2012-07-15 06:10:18 PM
I'm an advocate for killing prohibition. But, I gotta be honest...

When my son was 15, I didn't want him getting high. Didn't want him boozing. It's too young. Now that he is 26, it's on him to consume responsibly and exercise a bit of moderation (which he does) and I don't mind in the least. He's fine. As am I. ;-)

Prohibition of weed is the single dumbest thing this country engages in. The propaganda is pure fail on every level.
 
2012-07-15 06:11:43 PM
indoorplant: [www.thcfinder.com image 800x600]

Sagan was a toker?

Heh. There's nothing not to love about that man. Well, except the turtlenecks.
 
2012-07-15 06:13:40 PM
DRTFA, but:

On a gram-per-gram basis marijuana *MAY* be worse, but I do not know anyone that smokes 20-40 joints a day. It would interrupt munchies. Not to mention spinning in chairs listening to Pink Floyd, ELP and YES. You could probably physically smoke that much, but ...

In addition, since it is illegal, and there are penalties for any sort of non-sanctioned research to make it safer, there is no incentive to make it safer. And research is almost never sanctioned. So the laws are making it worse than it might otherwise be if legal research into making it safer was allowed.
 
2012-07-15 06:14:35 PM
phenn: indoorplant: [www.thcfinder.com image 800x600]

Sagan was a toker?

Heh. There's nothing not to love about that man. Well, except the turtlenecks.


Link
 
2012-07-15 06:20:51 PM
phenn: indoorplant: [www.thcfinder.com image 800x600]

Sagan was a toker?

Heh. There's nothing not to love about that man. Well, except the turtlenecks.


How do you know he's uncircumcised?
 
2012-07-15 06:29:12 PM
tomWright
DRTFA, but:
On a gram-per-gram basis
marijuana *MAY* be
worse, but I do not know
anyone that smokes 20-40
joints a day.



nice to meet you
 
2012-07-15 06:54:16 PM
I recall a show I watched on the effects of smoking pot.

On this show, I saw a doctor claim that smoking a single joint was the equivalent of smoking a pack of cigarettes.

I call bullshiat, and would like to assist him in setting up the appropriate experiment. He can find a volunteer to smoke a pack of cigarettes as fast as they can, and I'll smoke a joint. Shiat, they can smoke just over the course of a day, or give me a chronic cigarette smoker.

Then we get on treadmills. We measure lung capacity and heart rate. I win, due to substantially less carbon monoxide toxicity in my blood, and the differential effects on vascular dilation.

The doctor is discredited as a doctor and a man, and seeks a more "direct route" to serve as a whore for special interests.

I keep smoking grass.

/I'm just drunk enough to take a post from the past to future tense, FARKers
//No grass, though :(
 
2012-07-15 06:55:08 PM
MrVeach: tomWright
DRTFA, but:
On a gram-per-gram basis
marijuana *MAY* be
worse, but I do not know
anyone that smokes 20-40
joints a day.


nice to meet you


Well, my question now is: Where did you get the Taco-Bell-sauce proof keyboard?
 
2012-07-15 07:05:54 PM
vestona22: 'Cause, you know, marijuana's natural, unlike tobacco.

Check out how modern cigarette tobacco is grown (the pesticides used because it's actually a pretty fragile plant) and then cured and then get back to us on the whole "tobacco is natural" thing. Last I checked people don't do that to weed before they drop it in their bong.
 
2012-07-15 07:16:32 PM
I don't think marijuana is the same plant genetically that it was back in the 80s when we were smoking it. One of my contemporaries recently told me a story about trying some recently during a medical conference in Holland. He thought he was going to have a seizure. Not sure I could even hang anymore.
 
2012-07-15 07:31:19 PM
phenn: I'm an advocate for killing prohibition. But, I gotta be honest...

When my son was 15, I didn't want him getting high. Didn't want him boozing. It's too young. Now that he is 26, it's on him to consume responsibly and exercise a bit of moderation (which he does) and I don't mind in the least. He's fine. As am I. ;-)

Prohibition of weed is the single dumbest thing this country engages in. The propaganda is pure fail on every level.


I agree. Logically, marijuana should be treated like alcohol (i.e., legal for adults and mostly regulated by the states) but there's too much Culture War baggage from the last 45 years for hardly anyone to have a rational discussion on the subject. That being said, I don't think a 15-year old should smoke weed any more than he should drink shots of Jack Daniel's.
 
2012-07-15 07:34:04 PM
T-Boy: Not sure I could even hang anymore

Still plenty of shwag and mid grade out there.

NDP2: Culture War baggage from the last 45 years

Thank God my generation doesn't care about the culture war or marijuana or any of the BS the Boomers have been arguing about all these years.
 
2012-07-15 07:37:12 PM
T-Boy: I don't think marijuana is the same plant genetically that it was back in the 80s when we were smoking it. One of my contemporaries recently told me a story about trying some recently during a medical conference in Holland. He thought he was going to have a seizure. Not sure I could even hang anymore.

Well, I wouldn't give up just yet. If you are a lightweight, they are more than happy to cater to your needs. Seriously, most people "over-order", like ordering long island ice teas for your 21 year-old nephew. Yes, it is very, very strong. We're not even in the hash aisle yet. But they also grow weaker strains, you know, for breakfast before work or church.

/At least, the shops in the smaller neighborhoods did
//Unless you're there to get your dick wet, "Disneyland Amsterdam" is for suckers.
 
2012-07-15 07:38:46 PM
nburghmatt: phenn: indoorplant: [www.thcfinder.com image 800x600]

Sagan was a toker?

Heh. There's nothing not to love about that man. Well, except the turtlenecks.

Link


Well, I'll be.

Sagan is to science as Bob Ross is to art. They just lure you in, make the whole sharthouse mess fun and delightful, know what they are doing and make you want to follow along. I credit people who have that level of passion for educating others. Actually, I find it magnanimous.

Cosmos was the coolest program in the history of television. I watched when I was just a kid and, even though I'm a creative and not science-minded, thought "That's the kind of person I'd really like to hang out with."

God love him.
 
2012-07-15 07:45:41 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the Beatles kinda detract from that photo? I, personally, love them.... But they just seem to detract from the power of the pic, to me anyways....
 
2012-07-15 07:52:34 PM
FTA: And the scary reality is that pot is stronger than ever, and is often linked to psychosis, meaning it could make you hallucinate, and in some people, set off symptoms of schizophrenia.

Sure, most strains of marijuana are stronger today than on average in the 1960s and 70s. But the same can be said about craft beers. In either situation, you just watch how much you consume so you can test your limits based on your reaction. So instead of a stein, you get a pint or a flute. Instead of two or three big hits, you start with a single short one. If either hits you hard, you're done for the night. If not, then go back to the well. Just keep in mind that with either substance, it may take longer for the hit to come than you might expect. Too many teenagers consume too much too quickly, may it be alcohol or marijuana.

As for the threat of hallucination or psychosis, I think it is overblown. For most people, they have to consume a very significant amount of marijuana for such symptoms to kick in. Some breeds of marijuana can have a greater psychotropic effect than others, so ask before you buy if it worries you. If it is your first time, test with good friends in a safe, calm environment with your car keys hidden away. A party at some random stranger's house with your d*ckhead friends who'd get a rise out of farking with you isn't the place to do it.

I think the bigger problem comes when marijuana is laced with some other drug, which can happen with product bought off the street (as opposed to a regulated clinic). So it isn't the marijuana messing you up, it is the LSD, speed or cocaine. That's a problem you'll find more often at college parties when the bong is being passed around. Wait for a fresh bowl so you can inspect what you're about ready to smoke. If you can't tell, skip the hit.

And regarding the latent schizophrenia being triggered by marijuana, perhaps it isn't such a bad thing to learn about it sooner than later. If you are not predisposed for schizophrenia, marijuana won't cause it. But if I did have schizophrenia, I'd rather learn about it while hitting a bong at 19 or 20 than to have it hit undiagnosed at 25.

/moderation; know your limits
//know what you're smoking
///don't smoke and drive; don't ride with somebody who has smoked
 
2012-07-15 07:55:22 PM
vestona22: Don't care either way. I do remember, however, during the days of the "Truth" campaign thinking that all those hip kids that were so offended by "big tobacco" probably had no problem firing up a bong when they got home. 'Cause, you know, marijuana's natural, unlike tobacco.

Truth campaign, like 99% of them, was just utter bullshiat and infuriated me to no end.

However, tobacco in non-commercially made cancer-stick form, I'm told isn't nearly as bad as whatever the fark people are actually smoking in those moderately tobacco filled chemical shells.
 
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