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(Outside the Beltway)   In a groundbreaking investigative report, the New York Times has found that it's easier to raise children if there are two parents and two incomes than one parent and one income   (outsidethebeltway.com) divider line 60
    More: Obvious, James Joyner, social mobility, Atlantic Council, income gap, incomes, parents  
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2012-07-15 12:42:11 PM
The New York Times is on it.
 
2012-07-15 12:43:46 PM
Ric really gets around
 
2012-07-15 12:56:37 PM
What about two parents and one income?
 
2012-07-15 01:12:36 PM

ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?


A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.
 
2012-07-15 01:13:35 PM

Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.


Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.
 
2012-07-15 01:19:48 PM
It doesn't make them easier to raise. It just makes them easier to afford.
 
2012-07-15 01:21:32 PM
Not if those two parents are always fighting. Oh wait, she couldn't keep a job.
 
2012-07-15 01:24:12 PM
That's all well and good but why stop there? 6 parents with 6 jobs would deliver approximately 317% better parenting and have a 257% easier time raising the kids. Diminishing returns kick in if you go any higher.
 
2012-07-15 01:25:41 PM

Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.


Yeah. We all got together and voted on that one. In your face.
 
2012-07-15 01:27:47 PM

Owangotang: That's all well and good but why stop there? 6 parents with 6 jobs would deliver approximately 317% better parenting and have a 257% easier time raising the kids. Diminishing returns kick in if you go any higher.


Those Mormons are right!
 
2012-07-15 01:27:48 PM
It's obvious. We need to outlaw divorce if there's children and require that all women work.
 
2012-07-15 01:30:12 PM
What about one parent and two incomes?

/knew a girl who worked her way through high school helping her mom afford the rent
 
2012-07-15 01:32:58 PM
Wow, this is totally counter-intuitive.
 
2012-07-15 01:36:01 PM

LasersHurt: Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.

Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.


Someone forgot to tell me.

//Realize I am very lucky.
 
2012-07-15 01:41:32 PM
Two incomes no kids. It's the only way to go.
 
2012-07-15 01:44:49 PM

Pincy: Two incomes no kids. It's the only way to go.


If only there were a vast untapped reservoir of professional adults who live together and make good money and want to share the responsibility of raising children.

Oh...

www.therainbowbabies.com
 
2012-07-15 01:55:43 PM

gimmegimme: Pincy: Two incomes no kids. It's the only way to go.

If only there were a vast untapped reservoir of professional adults who live together and make good money and want to share the responsibility of raising children.

Oh...

[www.therainbowbabies.com image 352x235]


No, that'll be a way to destroy the US. It'll raise a generation of kids with THE GAY and they'll sell us out to the French
 
2012-07-15 02:00:19 PM
What if the single parent is under 21 and lands a part in an MTV reality show?
 
2012-07-15 02:02:43 PM

rjakobi: What if the single parent is under 21 and lands a part in an MTV reality show?


This.

This idea is an affront to the Republican FACT that we're ALL going to be rich, as soon as we cut more taxes.
 
2012-07-15 02:09:03 PM

Aar1012: gimmegimme: Pincy: Two incomes no kids. It's the only way to go.

If only there were a vast untapped reservoir of professional adults who live together and make good money and want to share the responsibility of raising children.

Oh...

[www.therainbowbabies.com image 352x235]

No, that'll be a way to destroy the US. It'll raise a generation of kids with THE GAY and they'll sell us out to the French


Mah boy caught The Gay, but an intensive regimen of steak, football, Lynard Skynard and Robert Mitchum movies cleared that up right quick.
 
2012-07-15 02:11:04 PM
Why the fark would I get married? So I can clean up after my spouse, AND a kid?
 
2012-07-15 02:13:34 PM

LasersHurt: Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.

Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.


I know people who tried. They're divorced now.
 
2012-07-15 02:15:45 PM

Aar1012: gimmegimme: Pincy: Two incomes no kids. It's the only way to go.

If only there were a vast untapped reservoir of professional adults who live together and make good money and want to share the responsibility of raising children.

Oh...

[www.therainbowbabies.com image 352x235]

No, that'll be a way to destroy the US. It'll raise a generation of kids with THE GAY and they'll sell us out to the French


Yeah, that's just horrible. i don't know which one would be worse.
 
2012-07-15 02:16:00 PM

ms_lara_croft: LasersHurt: Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.

Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.

I know people who tried. They're divorced now.


My GF and I both make decent money now - but we have a kid and a house, they're called "Student Loans". Between us like, what, 800 bucks or more a month?

We're going to try to get a house in the next year or two. Kid? If ever, it'll be a while.
 
2012-07-15 02:17:47 PM

Solid Muldoon: Aar1012: gimmegimme: Pincy: Two incomes no kids. It's the only way to go.

If only there were a vast untapped reservoir of professional adults who live together and make good money and want to share the responsibility of raising children.

Oh...

[www.therainbowbabies.com image 352x235]

No, that'll be a way to destroy the US. It'll raise a generation of kids with THE GAY and they'll sell us out to the French

Mah boy caught The Gay, but an intensive regimen of steak, football, Lynard Skynard and Robert Mitchum movies cleared that up right quick.


That's rough. I mean, Skynard sucks
 
2012-07-15 02:20:55 PM

ms_lara_croft: LasersHurt: Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.

Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.

I know people who tried. They're divorced now.


Let me guess, stay at home spent all day on their ass watching soaps, left a dirty house, and spent breadwinners money.
 
2012-07-15 02:22:17 PM
Article is obvious but hardly trollable - why's it in politics?
 
2012-07-15 02:23:13 PM

ms_lara_croft: LasersHurt: Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.

Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.

I know people who tried. They're divorced now.


There's one couple I know that somehow made it work. But wait, there's more.

He's the sole breadwinner, and none of the kids are his, or hers for that matter.

/Yes, they adopted 5 kids.
//They're trying to get their 6th.
 
2012-07-15 02:23:16 PM

imbrial: Article is obvious but hardly trollable - why's it in politics?


Something something gays something something young people are lazy because of socialism
 
2012-07-15 02:26:10 PM

LasersHurt: imbrial: Article is obvious but hardly trollable - why's it in politics?

Something something gays something something young people are lazy because of socialism


Ah - a '6 degrees of Kevin Butthurt' situation
 
2012-07-15 02:28:30 PM
Try two parents and one income.

When one of the parents has a TBI.

/yeah, it's not easy.
 
2012-07-15 02:31:45 PM

ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?


That's my situation. I work, my wife doesn't (at least for now), and we have a baby due next month. Having another income would obviously help, but on the other hand, we both like the idea of her being a full time mom.

Things may change, but for now, this is what we're going with.
 
2012-07-15 02:35:11 PM

Benni K Rok: ms_lara_croft: LasersHurt: Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.

Affording a family on a single income? It is to laugh.

I know people who tried. They're divorced now.

There's one couple I know that somehow made it work. But wait, there's more.

He's the sole breadwinner, and none of the kids are his, or hers for that matter.

/Yes, they adopted 5 kids.
//They're trying to get their 6th.


Those kids might not be theirs biologically, but otherwise they are their kids. Best wishes to them.
 
2012-07-15 02:38:11 PM
The University of Virginia did a study on this last year. It basically says, the biggest economic divide will now be whether you're born to a two-parent family or not.

BTW, my wife wrote this story. We're married and have 2 kids, but I don't know if being a journalist counts as a full-time income.

Link
 
2012-07-15 02:38:50 PM

Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.


My wife is a stay-at-home mom and we live off my income. It does happen. Same for two of my friends. It used to be three, but the wife in that situation didn't want to be a stay-at-home mom so she went back to work to get out of the house and they put the kid in daycare.

To be honest, given the price of daycare, my wife would have to make more than she'd ever made when she was in the workforce for it to matter.
 
2012-07-15 02:45:09 PM

Catsaregreen: The University of Virginia did a study on this last year. It basically says, the biggest economic divide will now be whether you're born to a two-parent family or not.

BTW, my wife wrote this story. We're married and have 2 kids, but I don't know if being a journalist counts as a full-time income.

Link


There's a lot of truth to that. Children with two parents have an advantage on the system. Children with 2 parents and 1 that stays at home have even more advantage.

The wife and I both work from home.
 
2012-07-15 02:50:03 PM
Forget the incomes, its simply better to have two person coverage on a child.

You're not a real parent until you have 3+ kids and are forced into a zone defense. My god have mercy on your souls.
 
2012-07-15 02:55:47 PM
2 parents 1 income here. I'd consider some of these "family value" political ideas if they had anything at all to do with families.
 
2012-07-15 03:13:25 PM

LasersHurt: imbrial: Article is obvious but hardly trollable - why's it in politics?

Something something gays something something young people are lazy because of socialism


The Republicans are gonna love playing with this football.
 
2012-07-15 03:29:43 PM
Children raised by single parents on public assistance never amount to anything.

i165.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-15 03:42:03 PM
Two divorced parents with separate incomes can work out for the child, if the Court rules shared alternate custody and no child support.

/fought for it

//that biatch - not just the lawer
 
2012-07-15 03:47:16 PM
Actually the best thing to do is to get married and NOT have kids. They are such a freaking time, money, and life suck that they are not worth it. Be married, have two incomes, take nice vacations, and have a nice car. That is the life.

I am so happy I got the snip, snip. I can barely support myself, let alone a kid. $$$
 
2012-07-15 03:52:51 PM

Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers ladies.


Way to double the employment pool.
 
2012-07-15 03:53:10 PM
Single parent, getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-07-15 04:22:40 PM

Bloody William: ms_lara_croft: What about two parents and one income?

A fiction from generations past.

/Again, thanks, boomers.


Another myth: That young people can work all summer and pay for college. Sh*t, it was already false when I was going to school in the 90s. Now it's outright laughable. Yet people like my grandmother genuinely believe that little Johnny can get a job at the gas station for three months and somehow pay his tuition, books, room, and everything else.

Hell, working a summer at a fast-food joint will barely get you a 1992 Honda that burns oil. And that's assuming you have zero other bills. Kids don't just show up and buy Chevelles with their burger-flipping money, anymore.

As for being sole provider to a wife and kid(s), that can still be done - but here's the difference. Back in the day, nearly any guy could grab a normal job and provide his family at least a basic existence with the occasional luxuries. These days, if you aren't in a certain tier, forget about it. The wife has to work.

I make around 50k (not great, not bad). The only reason I'm in any way comfortable is because I'm not shoveling my income into a larger home, a ginormous grocery bill, clothes, and all the other crap you get with a family. I'm not saying I couldn't raise a family, but I doubt it would be a particularly pleasant lifestyle. Everything we buy these days breaks and is thrown out and replaced. Food, housing, etc, all take a higher percentage of income than they used to. It's a farking pipe dream.
 
2012-07-15 04:41:23 PM
It's even easier if you're megarich
 
2012-07-15 04:45:43 PM
lh6.googleusercontent.com

It's all about the benjamins. Yes, you can literally raise a child on money.
 
2012-07-15 04:45:48 PM
you know what's even easier? Raising zero children on 2 incomes. That is super easy.
 
2012-07-15 05:02:50 PM
How about one huge income, two parents, and a trained staff of nannies, butlers, cooks, groundsmen, lawyers, brokers, and senators?
 
2012-07-15 05:03:06 PM

Ambivalence: you know what's even easier? Raising zero children on 2 incomes. That is super easy.


Too lazy to search for the xkcd comic with the family minivan stickers. You know what I mean.
 
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