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2012-07-15 12:43:50 PM
Yes
 
2012-07-15 12:45:40 PM
"Slowly, things in Pleasantville begin changing from black and white to color, ..."
 
2012-07-15 01:09:58 PM
Yes
 
2012-07-15 01:23:52 PM
land of the free/home of the brave indeed....
 
2012-07-15 01:29:27 PM
Yo dawg....
 
2012-07-15 01:32:36 PM
pattisoriginals.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-15 01:37:03 PM
Give me NUCLEAR WEAPONS!
 
2012-07-15 01:41:00 PM
No, 99% of all humans are incapable of taking responsibility for themselves and must be cared for like the (somewhat) housebroken pets that they are.
 
2012-07-15 01:41:12 PM
Initially read as "Is it time to ban bananas?" Was expecting a very different article.
 
2012-07-15 01:47:46 PM
 
2012-07-15 01:48:31 PM
When you start banning Democrats from holding elective office (stop voting for them, for those Democrats who cannot understand what the previous nine words meant), then the silly bans will go away.


But, they're too Goddamn stupid to ever figure that out.
 
2012-07-15 01:49:12 PM
"We're not going to protest!"
 
2012-07-15 01:50:45 PM

Crude: When you start banning Democrats from holding elective office (stop voting for them, for those Democrats who cannot understand what the previous nine words meant), then the silly bans will go away.


Yeah.

GOP church ladies and their hen-pecked hubbies never get involved in trivialities of community life.
 
2012-07-15 01:53:39 PM
Oh, come on. Do they really think that we're that stupid? It's all about revenue generation through fines and getting the public used to being dictated to. They don't have our best interests at heart......

As always, follow the money.

Love the line from the article where one local citycouncil tool states that the laws they pass won't be abused. Let's wait a few weeks (or days) and see how that works out as well when they decide that in addition to the revenue from these "civil" infractions, they use it as an excuse to search us and our cars as well.

It'll go something like this (paraphrased):

Officer: Let me see your ID, heard you say the word "fark".........hmmmm, my weapons grade nose smells pot, empty your pockets and spread 'em......
Me: Huh, I don't drink or smoke
Officer(s): STOP RESISTING!, etc, ad nauseum

You wait, you'll see it.
 
2012-07-15 01:53:45 PM
BAN THE BANS!! - Make Josh Famous
 
2012-07-15 01:53:47 PM
www.minimus.biz

Don't be a stinker.
 
2012-07-15 01:54:03 PM
If they do that, inevitably there will be a subsequent movement to ban ban bans. Where will it all end? Stop the madness now!
 
2012-07-15 02:01:41 PM
Can we ban this douche now? Please?
azcapitoltimes.com
 
2012-07-15 02:04:49 PM
When Fundypublicans renounce and retract their insistence that gay marriage be banned, THEN I will reconsider my approval of banning leaf-blowers, Big Gulps, heavily tinted windows, certain forms of malicious firearms, water bottles, etc.

Until then, goose, gander, etc. One side can't whine about bans on various personal consumer choices and still support a ban on a personal relationship choice (the marriage part, that is).
 
2012-07-15 02:05:42 PM

Catlenfell: "We're not going to protest!"


GUTTER IS A TOOL!
 
2012-07-15 02:07:18 PM
I thought that local governments making local rules what was the GOP was all about.
 
2012-07-15 02:07:27 PM
You guys are slipping.
i.qkme.me
 
2012-07-15 02:08:37 PM
If we ban bans, then we have to ban banners. We ought to ban banners, 'cos God hates Flags.
 
2012-07-15 02:10:36 PM
And people seriously wonder why so many from yankee-land flee southward? To escape douchebag idiocy like these bans.

Of course, eventually, once they are settled in and residents, they try their very best to start the same shiat down here too.
 
2012-07-15 02:12:24 PM
i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers
 
2012-07-15 02:13:01 PM
FTA:Public swearing in town has been a (rarely enforced) criminal offense since 1968, and the new local law, if it passes legal muster, would turn the crime into a civil offense, making it easier for police to enforce.

How does it make it any easier to enforce?

Hint : It doesn't, it's all about the money.
 
2012-07-15 02:15:54 PM
Bans are an excellent tool as long as they are used in a way that is consistent with my own personal beliefs.
 
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2012-07-15 02:22:49 PM

sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers


Where do you live? I need a place to dump my 40+ cubic yards, after being mulched at a compaction ratio of 10 to 1, of leaves which fall each year. I'd cut down the trees but I can't get a permit from the state.

I'm pretty sure if they banned gas leaf blowers in my area, I'd become an arsonist and burn all the surrounding woodlands.
 
2012-07-15 02:26:13 PM
I wish leaf blowers were banned here.
 
2012-07-15 02:26:19 PM

Crude: When you start banning Democrats from holding elective office (stop voting for them, for those Democrats who cannot understand what the previous nine words meant), then the silly bans will go away.


But, they're too Goddamn stupid to ever figure that out.


Cool story, call me when the GOP stops trying to ban abortion and gay marriage/civil rights.
 
2012-07-15 02:31:13 PM

sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers


Really? Wow... white people problems.
 
2012-07-15 02:32:06 PM

sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers


Every argument against a ban on leaf blowers is an argument for my cranking Black Sabbath over 1,000-watt JBL's in my backyard all day.
 
2012-07-15 02:33:23 PM

downstairs: sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers

Really? Wow... white people problems.


I totally don't get this. You're too good to be exposed to the sounds of people living near you? Just escapes me. It feels like such a suburbanite whine.
 
2012-07-15 02:33:29 PM

downstairs: sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers

Really? Wow... white people problems.


Yeah, most of us still have our hearing, not having it permanently damaged playing music in our cars at volumes that can be heard several city blocks away.
 
2012-07-15 02:33:48 PM

sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers


WHAT ?
 
2012-07-15 02:34:00 PM
You know what else need to be banned? Those skateboards with the mini two-stroke engines mounted on them.

No one has the "freedom" to pilot those around my neighborhood with that irritating high pitched whine, the smoke and the douchbaggy behavior.
 
2012-07-15 02:35:34 PM

Mega_Doof: You know what else need to be banned? Those skateboards with the mini two-stroke engines mounted on them.

No one has the "freedom" to pilot those around my neighborhood with that irritating high pitched whine, the smoke and the douchbaggy behavior.


If only we could ban douchebaggy behavior, none of the rest of these things would be issues.
 
2012-07-15 02:35:50 PM
Where is the conservative love of liberty when it comes to the ban on marijuana, hmm?

It seems clear that overconsumption of sugar is more harmful to Americans than weed. Eating sugar directly leads to obesity, heart disease, metabolic diseases, and being so disabled by being a fatass you need a mobility scooter. Yet weed does nothing but produce stoners who annoy me with their bad taste in television, which is clearly not as much of a harmful social effect.

Also, the role of government is to regulate things and provide services and public goods. Get over it. It works out well: it's why you have nice things - like clean tap water, baby formula that isn't full of melamine and chalk, roads, and garbage out on the streets on trash day instead of all the time, for example. Government maintains an environment where you can live and prosper. I'm sorry that your freedom has been constrained by this, and I suggest you move to a third world country where government is corrupt and ineffective at establishing any sort of regulatory environment, so you will not have to live with the un-American tyranny of rules about running excessively loud yard machinery at 5 AM.
 
2012-07-15 02:38:39 PM
And so the war on marriage continues!
 
2012-07-15 02:38:50 PM
A ban on banning bans....
 
2012-07-15 02:39:27 PM

One Bad Apple: sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers

WHAT ?


This may come as a shock to you but some people care about being considerate of their neighbors.
 
2012-07-15 02:41:49 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: When Fundypublicans renounce and retract their insistence that gay marriage be banned, THEN I will reconsider my approval of banning leaf-blowers, Big Gulps, heavily tinted windows, certain forms of malicious firearms, water bottles, etc.

Until then, goose, gander, etc. One side can't whine about bans on various personal consumer choices and still support a ban on a personal relationship choice (the marriage part, that is).


Tell you what, any time a ban is proposed it'll be put to a vote. If it wins, you get your ban. Otherwise not. At least then the people affected will enact the ban and not some self-appointed nanny brigade.
 
2012-07-15 02:44:48 PM

bobbette: Where is the conservative love of liberty when it comes to the ban on marijuana, hmm?


I've heard plenty of conservatives say that marijuana should be legalized. I would only hope that its use be subject to the same rules as are in effect for tobacco.
 
2012-07-15 02:51:38 PM

LasersHurt: downstairs: sprgrss: i have no problem banning loud leaf blowers

Really? Wow... white people problems.

I totally don't get this. You're too good to be exposed to the sounds of people living near you? Just escapes me. It feels like such a suburbanite whine.



The "sounds of people living" sounds like music playing, dishes banging, cars being started, people arguing, babies crying, dogs barking, laundry timers going off, car horns, kids playing, air conditioners humming, birds singing, etc.

The "sounds of people living" doesn't sound like:
"BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" starting at dawn and going until dusk.
 
2012-07-15 02:53:28 PM

jjorsett: bobbette: Where is the conservative love of liberty when it comes to the ban on marijuana, hmm?

I've heard plenty of conservatives say that marijuana should be legalized. I would only hope that its use be subject to the same rules as are in effect for tobacco.


Those aren't generally people who identify themselves as conservative first - you're more likely to hear that among people who identify as libertarian first. Important philosophical distinction in the right.

Conservatives currently are generally in favour of liberty as long as it's just the stuff they care about. When it comes to gays marrying, women having control of their own reproductive health decisions, or any number of social issues, including drug policy, they usually favour legal bans or restrictions on personal liberty.
 
2012-07-15 02:53:35 PM
BANCEPTION
 
2012-07-15 02:56:41 PM

naveline: The "sounds of people living" doesn't sound like:
"BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" starting at dawn and going until dusk.


It does in Fairbanks.
 
2012-07-15 03:03:14 PM
F*cking Bloomberg.
 
2012-07-15 03:12:37 PM
www.aaanything.net
 
2012-07-15 03:14:47 PM
When what we consider "our personal freedoms" impact others (or nature in general) in a harmful or destructive manner, such as plastic bags and bottles destroying our oceans, we should strongly consider alternatives. However, banning the size of sodas is not going to stop people from being unhealthy, Regulation is not the answer, education is the only solution! Unfortunately there are just to many people that don't care to be informed, they choose to disconnect from their choices to protect their fragile egos, and label it "freedom", when in reality its just plain selfishness.
 
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