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2012-07-15 11:44:48 AM  

GAT_00: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: Wow. They are good at this.

well...it also helps that Team Romney are kind of stupid but...yes. these ads are VERY good indeed.

Obama's a pretty good campaigner. He's just terrible in office.


it's not entirely his fault. Remember - the day Obama was being sworn into office, the GOP elites were across town planning to sabotage his administration. Day one - literally! - the Republican plan was to undermine, destroy, and delay everything Obama tried to do. That he got anything done at all is amazing. the level of sheer hatred the Republicans have for Obama borders on the pathological.
 
2012-07-15 11:45:30 AM  

PanicMan: I really hoped it was just a video of the president pointing at his balls, but that was pretty good.


What's cute is that folks have been asking the President to take the gloves off, and then scream like little girls when he does exactly that. Be that with pirates, be that in Libya, be that with Bin Laden.

If Obama had an R beside his name, he'd be their champion and savior by his actions. He is the Centerist President that they've been asking for. He saved auto manufacturing while Romney didn't care and figured that they should fail. He got through the insurance mandate that has been the Republican model for Health Care Reform, he's toughened up on drug policy, he's deported more folks in one term than Bush did in both of his, and he's followed the Bush withdrawl plans and even speeded them up a bit, while preserving benefits for veterans.

He's been diplomatic, and still holds even our allies to agreements. He's been exactly what Republicans have wanted to see in office for decades, but because he's got a D behind him, folks are screaming for him to be a one termer...

But the policies have been pretty much what they've been asking for...
 
2012-07-15 11:46:26 AM  

dr_blasto: hubiestubert: To be fair, Romney DOES produce the best ads for Obama...

I said a while back that the best thing that the Obama team could do would be to just continuously loop Romney's own words, over and over and over again. I'm glad that I wasn't alone in that assessment...

Looping statements is one thing, but what I really want to see is an ad using video of Romney edited like a debate, with Romney debating Romney.


I'm certain that one is in the can for late August reminding Rs at the convention they are about to nominate a guy they can't trust at all on their core issues.
 
2012-07-15 11:47:15 AM  

Lipo: If someone on Romney's staff actually said that he retired from Bain retroactively, Obama's camp needs to hammer the fark out of that one on the airwaves. It's really too bad that Obama is President right now, because were he not in office like Romney, he could publicly ask the Justice Dept. to look into the Bain Capital records and see if the law had been broken (by all appearances it has, even if only technically). As it is, Obama has to keep his mouth shut to avoid the appearance of trying to game the election while in office.


What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...
 
2012-07-15 11:47:33 AM  
I'm of two minds about this one.

Giving repetition to your opponent's attacks against you is never a good idea, no matter how it's used. Even if the larger context derails the main thrust of the attacks, repetition has a power all its own in advertising. The ad writier gets a demerit for that mistake.

OTOH, the Gingrich quote at the end is priceless. He's perceived among the more social conservative wing of the base as being personally tougher than Romney to begin with, and it plays in perfectly to the image of weakness suggested by the repeated demands for an apology. It's only a step away from asking if Romney wants Obama to kiss it and make it better.

I give this one a B+. The "America the Beautiful" ad was better.
 
2012-07-15 11:48:08 AM  

GAT_00: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: Wow. They are good at this.

well...it also helps that Team Romney are kind of stupid but...yes. these ads are VERY good indeed.

Obama's a pretty good campaigner. He's just terrible in office.


Maybe it's not Obama that is terrible in office, but the 112th Congress?
 
2012-07-15 11:48:53 AM  
Now listen here you possibly foreign born, appeasing, socialist, America hating not really Christian, HUSSEIN, elitist, don't you dare go making this personal.
 
2012-07-15 11:49:26 AM  

hubiestubert: PanicMan: I really hoped it was just a video of the president pointing at his balls, but that was pretty good.

What's cute is that folks have been asking the President to take the gloves off, and then scream like little girls when he does exactly that. Be that with pirates, be that in Libya, be that with Bin Laden.

If Obama had an R beside his name, he'd be their champion and savior by his actions. He is the Centerist President that they've been asking for. He saved auto manufacturing while Romney didn't care and figured that they should fail. He got through the insurance mandate that has been the Republican model for Health Care Reform, he's toughened up on drug policy, he's deported more folks in one term than Bush did in both of his, and he's followed the Bush withdrawl plans and even speeded them up a bit, while preserving benefits for veterans.

He's been diplomatic, and still holds even our allies to agreements. He's been exactly what Republicans have wanted to see in office for decades, but because he's got a D behind him, folks are screaming for him to be a one termer...

But the policies have been pretty much what they've been asking for...


You give them more credit than me. I don't think it's because there's a D next to his name. I just can't even give these people enough credit to say that they are partisan hacks anymore.
 
2012-07-15 11:49:53 AM  

coco ebert: I friggin' LOVE Obama the campaigner.


I remember that guy from 2004 and 2008. He was great. It's kinda nice to see him again.
 
2012-07-15 11:50:24 AM  
If this is a sign of things to come, I will be prepared for the lulz.
 
2012-07-15 11:50:54 AM  
I'm cruising the morning talking head shows and watching the Romney operatives get smashed in the face with Bain and tax returns over and over.

I'm starting to think he may not get to the convention, or could face a very strong floor fight if he does.
 
2012-07-15 11:51:04 AM  
At this point, I just feel sorry for Rmoney, running for president for 10 years and the man has no idea how to run a presidential campaign. The amateur responses and attacks from Boston is just shameful really, but what would you expect? This guy birthed Obamacare, how the fark is he going to disown it? This guy has a reputation of flip flopping on every single social and economic issue and he expects people to just believe him? At a time Americans are just weary of CEO's and Wall Street shenniagans and this idiot comes running in toting his experience as a sleazy CEO.

These attacks about Bain are just starting, I am looking forward in seeing the next ad asking why Mittens was paid $100,000 at the time he said he left the company.

This poor bastard is just way out of his league.
 
2012-07-15 11:51:19 AM  
Just copying what I posted in the previous thread on this that's very active right now:
I just finished watching Face the Nation where they had one of Romney's head spokesmen and one of Obama's. It was terrible. Obama's rep was talking specifics that they had problems with about Romney and Bain. Romney's guy pretty much responded with two things:
1) Romney's already gone above and beyond the minimum requirements for disclosures. Apparently he doesn't realize that every other candidate has already gone above and beyond and then some over the technical legal minimum.
2) Hey, look over there! The economy is still bad and it's Obama's fault!

If this is the best Romney's camp can get to represent them in a national interview, they're hosed. The guy was on the defensive the entire time and was just swinging wildly. It was embarrassing.
 
2012-07-15 11:53:22 AM  
How do you "retroactively" retire from a company? Here's my idea. If I ever get married and it goes sour, I'll avoid losing my money by retroactively breaking up with my wife before the wedding. GENIUS.
 
2012-07-15 11:54:59 AM  

gimmegimme: How do you "retroactively" retire from a company? Here's my idea. If I ever get married and it goes sour, I'll avoid losing my money by retroactively breaking up with my wife before the wedding. GENIUS.


I have no idea how that's supposed to work...but the SEC might find it an interesting discussion to have with Romney's lawyers....
 
2012-07-15 11:55:24 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: GAT_00: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: Wow. They are good at this.

well...it also helps that Team Romney are kind of stupid but...yes. these ads are VERY good indeed.

Obama's a pretty good campaigner. He's just terrible in office.

Maybe it's not Obama that is terrible in office, but the 112th Congress?


Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: Wow. They are good at this.

well...it also helps that Team Romney are kind of stupid but...yes. these ads are VERY good indeed.

Obama's a pretty good campaigner. He's just terrible in office.

it's not entirely his fault. Remember - the day Obama was being sworn into office, the GOP elites were across town planning to sabotage his administration. Day one - literally! - the Republican plan was to undermine, destroy, and delay everything Obama tried to do. That he got anything done at all is amazing. the level of sheer hatred the Republicans have for Obama borders on the pathological.


To bring up the point I've made many times, it's that he refused to fight either of the Congresses he has been given. That's why his only actual successes have been foreign policy - he simply refuses to actually take a fight to Congress.
 
2012-07-15 11:55:30 AM  

Only way to improve that ad would be if at the end it cut to Obama saying...

i.imgur.com
"I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message."

 
2012-07-15 11:56:37 AM  
Wonder if Obama is a fan of (really) bad movies?

encrypted-tbn2.google.com
 
2012-07-15 11:57:05 AM  

GAT_00:

To bring up the point I've made many times, it's that he refused to fight either of the Congresses he has been given. That's why his only actual successes have been foreign policy - he simply refuses to actually take a fight to Congress.


Obama still manages to get things through congress, so I'm not entirely sure what you want him to do. granted, he has to fight tooth and claw to get things done but he STILL gets it done.
 
2012-07-15 11:57:19 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Lipo: If someone on....

What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...


This is pretty informative Link
 
2012-07-15 11:57:42 AM  

TheNyquilKid: Only way to improve that ad would be if at the end it cut to Obama saying...

[i.imgur.com image 605x328]
"I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message."


I think this would be better

pragmaticobotsunite.com
 
2012-07-15 11:58:41 AM  
"I'm not your dad. I retroactively did not have sex with your mom 10 years ago."
 
2012-07-15 11:59:14 AM  

Weaver95: Obama still manages to get things through congress


Pelosi and Reid have been getting things through Congress, not the White House. They've done it quite on their own.
 
2012-07-15 11:59:21 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: Grables'Daughter: Lipo: If someone on....

What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...

This is pretty informative Link


Thank you.
 
2012-07-15 12:00:50 PM  
ROMney: "Let's talk about issues."
POTUSJC: "You first."
Me: "FTW! LOL"
 
2012-07-15 12:01:45 PM  
BTW, the part of LOL in that last comment was played by Loving Obama Loudly.
 
2012-07-15 12:03:16 PM  

hubiestubert: What's cute is that folks have been asking the President to take the gloves off, and then scream like little girls when he does exactly that. Be that with pirates, be that in Libya, be that with Bin Laden.


Most of what you are talking about where comments coming from the impotent republicans who lost the foreign policy card to Obama. Stunning as that it is, it's standard operating procedure among progressives to be weak need coonts. They have this idea that if you give a great speech like Michael Douglas did on The American President, people will fawn and vote for you. Liberal billionaires are weary of PAC's because being aggressive against your opponent with corporate money is just plain mean and unamerican. This type of delusion is a mental illness that has marked the party for decades.

I am sick and tired of Democrats, they don't have the fortitude in winning elections, it isn't in their blood, these pussies don't deserve to win if they can't fight for what they believe in.

I for one am happy that Obama is finally going all Lyndon Johnson on this caricature of a candidate the GOP recklessly sprouted out to the American public.
 
2012-07-15 12:04:04 PM  

Grables'Daughter: Waxing_Chewbacca: Grables'Daughter: Lipo: If someone on....

What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...

This is pretty informative Link

Thank you.


You are very welcome GD
 
2012-07-15 12:06:18 PM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: Grables'Daughter: Waxing_Chewbacca: Grables'Daughter: Lipo: If someone on....

What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...

This is pretty informative Link

Thank you.

You are very welcome GD


Does this mean you're getting BIE?
 
2012-07-15 12:07:36 PM  
I'm starting to wonder if the Romney campaign is coordinating with Obama's.
 
2012-07-15 12:08:30 PM  

hubiestubert: I said a while back that the best thing that the Obama team could do would be to just continuously loop Romney's own words, over and over and over again. I'm glad that I wasn't alone in that assessment...


I think a lot of us said that, we just couldn't wait to see if they'd screw it up. So far, they are batting 1.000!

I can't wait for the debates.
 
2012-07-15 12:09:15 PM  

SeismicJizzer: hubiestubert: What's cute is that folks have been asking the President to take the gloves off, and then scream like little girls when he does exactly that. Be that with pirates, be that in Libya, be that with Bin Laden.

Most of what you are talking about where comments coming from the impotent republicans who lost the foreign policy card to Obama. Stunning as that it is, it's standard operating procedure among progressives to be weak need coonts. They have this idea that if you give a great speech like Michael Douglas did on The American President, people will fawn and vote for you. Liberal billionaires are weary of PAC's because being aggressive against your opponent with corporate money is just plain mean and unamerican. This type of delusion is a mental illness that has marked the party for decades.

I am sick and tired of Democrats, they don't have the fortitude in winning elections, it isn't in their blood, these pussies don't deserve to win if they can't fight for what they believe in.

I for one am happy that Obama is finally going all Lyndon Johnson on this caricature of a candidate the GOP recklessly sprouted out to the American public.


1.bp.blogspot.com

I am not a caricature, my friend. I was Prefect of Massachusetts, in charge of the lives of more people than you have ever met. I have negotiated treaties between massive dominions that led to years of peace and well-run athletics competitions. Someday, the very PAC wraiths will be under my command and I will be the most powerful man in the galaxy. What is most important to me? The love of my sons and the hope of a happy retirement on Kolob.
 
2012-07-15 12:09:41 PM  
i'm watching CNN right now. apparently the GOP response to bain capital is 'Romney wasn't running Bain, bain ran itself for 3 years. Romney isn't responsible'.

wow.
 
2012-07-15 12:10:05 PM  

Grables'Daughter: Lipo: If someone on Romney's staff actually said that he retired from Bain retroactively, Obama's camp needs to hammer the fark out of that one on the airwaves. It's really too bad that Obama is President right now, because were he not in office like Romney, he could publicly ask the Justice Dept. to look into the Bain Capital records and see if the law had been broken (by all appearances it has, even if only technically). As it is, Obama has to keep his mouth shut to avoid the appearance of trying to game the election while in office.

What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...


From my understanding he lied on either FEC or SEC filings.
 
2012-07-15 12:10:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: GAT_00: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: Wow. They are good at this.

well...it also helps that Team Romney are kind of stupid but...yes. these ads are VERY good indeed.

Obama's a pretty good campaigner. He's just terrible in office.

Maybe it's not Obama that is terrible in office, but the 112th Congress?


They certainly haven't helped anything. Hell, they haven't even helped themselves if you use Congressional approval polls as any measure as they're pretty much the worst EVAR. When you're jealous of Dick farking Cheney's numbers, you've clearly overachieved in the territory of awfulness.
 
2012-07-15 12:11:36 PM  
I've been wondering when the Obama campaign would start using the juicy primary soundbites from Gingrich, Cain, Paul, Bachmann. They have enough material to spread out across months of ads from Santorum alone.

hubiestubert: Again: for a guy who's been essentially campaigning for five years, you'd think he'd be better at it...


The flipside of that is, if he was a better campaigner he'd already be in the White House.
 
2012-07-15 12:11:42 PM  

Lipo: Grables'Daughter: Lipo: If someone on Romney's staff actually said that he retired from Bain retroactively, Obama's camp needs to hammer the fark out of that one on the airwaves. It's really too bad that Obama is President right now, because were he not in office like Romney, he could publicly ask the Justice Dept. to look into the Bain Capital records and see if the law had been broken (by all appearances it has, even if only technically). As it is, Obama has to keep his mouth shut to avoid the appearance of trying to game the election while in office.

What law was broken, please?

I'm not trolling, I honestly don't know here and am asking for information...

From my understanding he lied on either FEC or SEC filings.


Or to the American people. Either way, his statements were such that he MUST have lied.
 
2012-07-15 12:11:58 PM  

NewportBarGuy: hubiestubert: I said a while back that the best thing that the Obama team could do would be to just continuously loop Romney's own words, over and over and over again. I'm glad that I wasn't alone in that assessment...

I think a lot of us said that, we just couldn't wait to see if they'd screw it up. So far, they are batting 1.000!

I can't wait for the debates.


I think they're going to be disappointing. I think Obama will do great at it, but Romney will just resort to talking points. Unless there's a moderator that actually attempts to keep him on topic, he just discuss whatever he feels like. Then the media will declare it a tie. Or even a Romney win since he did better than expected.
 
2012-07-15 12:12:15 PM  
Romney used to be a Presidential candidate...but then he took an arrow in the knee.
 
2012-07-15 12:13:07 PM  

Weaver95: i'm watching CNN right now. apparently the GOP response to bain capital is 'Romney wasn't running Bain, bain ran itself for 3 years. Romney isn't responsible'.

wow.


I know there's a large swath of rednecks who force themselves to swallow all kinds of crap like this but damn that's a pretty big stretch.
 
2012-07-15 12:13:11 PM  

Weaver95: Dinki: Obamas surrogates need to bring this up every time they talk to the press, from now till the election. The MSM will try to move on, but if Obamas people are always bringing it up they can't ignore it.

well...no. I mean, look at the Occupy movement. the mainstream press ignored mass beatings, and police brutality on a truly massive scale and nobody so much as blinked. if the press wants to ignore Romney's issues with Bain capital I suspect they will have little difficultly organizing a media blackout.


Funny you should bring up OWS. Because I really think one reason this attack on Romney is working so well is because of OWS. The biggest thing that movement did was to create a sea change in how this country views wealth. We no longer view extreme wealth as an intrinsically good thing. Now, how you made that wealth and what you do with it are far more important to how most people view you. And that ties back into Romney and his tenure at Bain. If the actions of Bain had not become so reprehensible to so many people then Romney would not have to spend so much time trying to run away from them.
 
2012-07-15 12:13:16 PM  
angryblackladychronicles.com

/The lulz must flow.
 
2012-07-15 12:14:46 PM  

NeoCortex42: NewportBarGuy: hubiestubert: I said a while back that the best thing that the Obama team could do would be to just continuously loop Romney's own words, over and over and over again. I'm glad that I wasn't alone in that assessment...

I think a lot of us said that, we just couldn't wait to see if they'd screw it up. So far, they are batting 1.000!

I can't wait for the debates.

I think they're going to be disappointing. I think Obama will do great at it, but Romney will just resort to talking points. Unless there's a moderator that actually attempts to keep him on topic, he just discuss whatever he feels like. Then the media will declare it a tie. Or even a Romney win since he did better than expected.


I am guessing that Fox News will start a "Barack Hussein Obama is too mean" meme around the debates to try and deflect when Obama talks issues and Rmoney lies.
 
2012-07-15 12:15:17 PM  
This is the only way Potus loses now... The left and young voters stay home. Not gonna happen. Ads like "America the Beautiful" will get the base fired up.
 
2012-07-15 12:15:54 PM  

Dinki: Weaver95: Dinki: Obamas surrogates need to bring this up every time they talk to the press, from now till the election. The MSM will try to move on, but if Obamas people are always bringing it up they can't ignore it.

well...no. I mean, look at the Occupy movement. the mainstream press ignored mass beatings, and police brutality on a truly massive scale and nobody so much as blinked. if the press wants to ignore Romney's issues with Bain capital I suspect they will have little difficultly organizing a media blackout.

Funny you should bring up OWS. Because I really think one reason this attack on Romney is working so well is because of OWS. The biggest thing that movement did was to create a sea change in how this country views wealth. We no longer view extreme wealth as an intrinsically good thing. Now, how you made that wealth and what you do with it are far more important to how most people view you. And that ties back into Romney and his tenure at Bain. If the actions of Bain had not become so reprehensible to so many people then Romney would not have to spend so much time trying to run away from them.


well, I don't know if OWS changed the ENTIRE country's view on excessive wealth...but OWS sure did get that conversation started though, didn't they? So in that respect, I'd have to agree with your statement. people were already starting to talk about how the 1% live and work. Now along comes Romney and his time at bain capital, plus all his cayman islands offshore tax shelters and people are putting 2 and 2 together.
 
2012-07-15 12:15:59 PM  
Dear Mitt,

I'm very sorry that you're nothing but an overentitled twatwaffle. I really mean that in all sincerity.

Regards,
Chuck
 
2012-07-15 12:16:00 PM  
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2012-07-15 12:16:10 PM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: This is the only way Potus loses now... The left and young voters stay home. Not gonna happen. Ads like "America the Beautiful" will get the base fired up.


Wrong thread but relevant.
 
2012-07-15 12:16:25 PM  

Weaver95: i'm watching CNN right now. apparently the GOP response to bain capital is 'Romney wasn't running Bain, bain ran itself for 3 years. Romney isn't responsible'.

wow.


Romney was only responsible for everything Bain did up until they started doing things people don't like. Then he had nothing to do with it, except for any residual good stuff that happened after he left.

This recent Bain stuff even has Romney contradicting himself in the same interview. It's a joke.
 
2012-07-15 12:17:43 PM  

red5ish: [img803.imageshack.us image 480x310]


I'm President Obama, and I am THRILLED BEYOND BELIEF to bring you this message.
 
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