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2012-07-15 04:33:45 AM  
How many people are surprised by this?
 
2012-07-15 04:35:46 AM  
FTFA: According to TMZ bosses at Porsche discovered Lindsay was blaming there manufacturing so decided to contact the hire company.

FFFFF...
 
2012-07-15 04:39:18 AM  
Accident investigators find the cause of the collision was a loose nut behind the wheel.
 
2012-07-15 05:14:01 AM  
What's the german for crack-head?
 
2012-07-15 05:17:03 AM  
How does this girl still have money..its not like she works or stars in any movies..
 
2012-07-15 05:34:03 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: FTFA: According to TMZ bosses at Porsche discovered Lindsay was blaming there manufacturing so decided to contact the hire company.

FFFFF...


Thank you.

Greenbeanx: How does this girl still have money..its not like she works or stars in any movies..


Pretty sure TMZ is paying her to do this shiat.
 
2012-07-15 05:37:54 AM  

Greenbeanx: How does this girl still have money..its not like she works or stars in any movies..


sell pussy on craigslist
 
2012-07-15 06:00:19 AM  

Cheese eating surrender monkey: What's the german for crack-head?


Krackenkopf?
 
2012-07-15 06:19:54 AM  

MrVeach: Greenbeanx: How does this girl still have money..its not like she works or stars in any movies..

sell pussy on craigslist


Not enough roses..her entire family is a trainwreak
at this point..I smell a celebrity intervention. I would think by now someone would knock it off or you'll be dead. Some friends she has.
 
2012-07-15 07:04:11 AM  

Greenbeanx: MrVeach: Greenbeanx:
at this point..I smell a celebrity intervention. I would think by now someone would knock it off or you'll be dead. Some friends she has.


No, she's past that stage. Everyone who might have cared are burned-out. She'll either die horribly, or have an experience that turns her into another Kirk Cameron.
Not sure which fate is worse...
 
2012-07-15 07:26:07 AM  
Sometimes it's better to just admit you screwed up.
 
2012-07-15 07:57:43 AM  
Wow, it's like she made the whole story up.
 
2012-07-15 08:21:38 AM  
It's Porsche-uh.
 
2012-07-15 09:02:11 AM  
It'll get better when they sue her for defamation and she gets the bill for all the tests they had to run.
 
2012-07-15 09:18:35 AM  
And we said as much in the thread when she crashed the car: there's only one way brakes fail in modern cars, and that's from the lines rusting out, which gives you plenty of warning that you're not going to be able to stop soon.
 
2012-07-15 09:53:29 AM  

FuturePastNow: And we said as much in the thread when she crashed the car: there's only one way brakes fail in modern cars, and that's from the lines rusting out, which gives you plenty of warning that you're not going to be able to stop soon.


Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?
 
2012-07-15 10:28:02 AM  

italie: FuturePastNow: And we said as much in the thread when she crashed the car: there's only one way brakes fail in modern cars, and that's from the lines rusting out, which gives you plenty of warning that you're not going to be able to stop soon.

Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?


You did this.
 
2012-07-15 10:30:53 AM  

italie: Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?


In every single one of those scenarios, you'd still retain SOME braking power even in the event of a catastrophic failure of multiple parts. Brakes, being one of the most important safety systems in a car, have multiple redundancies built into them so that even if multiple things go wrong, you'll still be able to bring the car to a stop, albeit a bit more slowly than with a fully functional system.

/ok, if someone wanted to KILL her and did things to the car purposefully thats one thing
//but we'd definitely have heard about that, esp. after 2 different places inspected the car
 
2012-07-15 10:50:34 AM  
I guess the followup tag was more appropriate than the obvious tag. At this point, she's a habitual liar. I wouldn't even trust her if she just signed her name to a contract or a credit card receipt. I wouldn't be surprised if the PD would want to take a look at the black box data and see just exactly how fast she was going.
 
2012-07-15 10:57:16 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle


FTFA: According to TMZ bosses at Porsche discovered Lindsay was blaming there manufacturing so decided to contact the hire company.

FFFFF...


Where manufacturing?

There manufacturing. There castle.
 
2012-07-15 11:06:53 AM  
There their they're. Meh. I hate modern "writers".

When I was young writers took English or something equivilant, now they are communication majors making 16 bucks an hour


Going back to my lawn now.
 
2012-07-15 12:07:52 PM  
Damn... I still haven't recovered from those awful Kill Bill movies.
 
2012-07-15 12:17:47 PM  
I just visited the Porsche museum in Stuttgart yesterday, and among the exhibits was the same kind of car the James Dean died in (Porsche 550), and they note that fact as part of the display. I look forward to coming back and seeing the Lindsay Lohan death car exhibit.
 
2012-07-15 12:21:53 PM  
The fact she thinks people are that gullible makes me fear for us as a society, because there are alot of people who are gullible enough for her to keep spewing BS like this. I'm looking at you, legal system.
 
2012-07-15 12:35:41 PM  

grinding_journalist: italie: Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?

In every single one of those scenarios, you'd still retain SOME braking power even in the event of a catastrophic failure of multiple parts. Brakes, being one of the most important safety systems in a car, have multiple redundancies built into them so that even if multiple things go wrong, you'll still be able to bring the car to a stop, albeit a bit more slowly than with a fully functional system.

/ok, if someone wanted to KILL her and did things to the car purposefully thats one thing
//but we'd definitely have heard about that, esp. after 2 different places inspected the car


Exactly. I had a brake line split on a 92 Pathfinder and still had enough braking ability to get it off the road and to an open lot a mile away. I'm sure that a Porsche has far more redundancies than a 20 year old SUV.
 
2012-07-15 01:13:24 PM  

scruffy1: grinding_journalist: italie: Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?

In every single one of those scenarios, you'd still retain SOME braking power even in the event of a catastrophic failure of multiple parts. Brakes, being one of the most important safety systems in a car, have multiple redundancies built into them so that even if multiple things go wrong, you'll still be able to bring the car to a stop, albeit a bit more slowly than with a fully functional system.

/ok, if someone wanted to KILL her and did things to the car purposefully thats one thing
//but we'd definitely have heard about that, esp. after 2 different places inspected the car

Exactly. I had a brake line split on a 92 Pathfinder and still had enough braking ability to get it off the road and to an open lot a mile away. I'm sure that a Porsche has far more redundancies than a 20 year old SUV.




I'm not sure what redundancies both of you referring to, but in the last 50+ years I can only come up with the parking / e-brake. The actual braking systems has stayed relatively the same. Pedal, booster, master, lines, slave, piston forcing shoe/pad against drum/rotor. That's it. Throw in an ABS modulator if you are feeling frisky.

I not saying that any of these applied to her. She's lying through her meth worn teeth. All I am saying is that there are plenty of places a brake system can fail. You may be able to "get home" just fine with these failures. You probably wouldn't be able to stop a Porsche doing 125mph with a great deal of efficiency though. As much as we all know what happened, it's entirely possible that her brakes failed.

//Not saying she was doing 125mph either, but I know I would have been.
 
2012-07-15 01:22:10 PM  

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: italie: FuturePastNow: And we said as much in the thread when she crashed the car: there's only one way brakes fail in modern cars, and that's from the lines rusting out, which gives you plenty of warning that you're not going to be able to stop soon.

Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?

You did this.



This "this" that you are referring to, I know nothing of it. Why don't we all take a short drive so we can talk, and that I may "become more familiar" with the subject.

sport168.net
 
2012-07-15 01:28:21 PM  

italie: scruffy1: grinding_journalist: italie: Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?

In every single one of those scenarios, you'd still retain SOME braking power even in the event of a catastrophic failure of multiple parts. Brakes, being one of the most important safety systems in a car, have multiple redundancies built into them so that even if multiple things go wrong, you'll still be able to bring the car to a stop, albeit a bit more slowly than with a fully functional system.

/ok, if someone wanted to KILL her and did things to the car purposefully thats one thing
//but we'd definitely have heard about that, esp. after 2 different places inspected the car

Exactly. I had a brake line split on a 92 Pathfinder and still had enough braking ability to get it off the road and to an open lot a mile away. I'm sure that a Porsche has far more redundancies than a 20 year old SUV.



I'm not sure what redundancies both of you referring to, but in the last 50+ years I can only come up with the parking / e-brake. The actual braking systems has stayed relatively the same. Pedal, booster, master, lines, slave, piston forcing shoe/pad against drum/rotor. That's it. Throw in an ABS modulator if you are feeling frisky.

I not saying that any of these applied to her. She's lying through her meth worn teeth. All I am saying is that there are plenty of places a brake system can fail. You may be able to "get home" just fine with these failures. You probably wouldn't be able to stop a Porsche doing 125mph with a great deal of efficiency though. As much as we all know what happened, it's entirely possible that her brakes failed.

//Not saying she was doing 125mph either, but I know I would have been.


Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."
 
2012-07-15 01:43:17 PM  

Tourney3p0:

Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."



I'll just assume you've never worked in any sort of automotive service industry. It's amazing how badly someone can ignore a major issue with their car. Even more amazing how often it happens. She doesn't appear to very in tune to reality as it is.

//"So how long have you been driving using only your emergency brake Sir?"
///Yes, that question had to come from my mouth. I don't miss those days.


/Linkage break would be immediate no-stop, fwiw.
 
2012-07-15 01:44:48 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Fluorescent Testicle

FTFA: According to TMZ bosses at Porsche discovered Lindsay was blaming there manufacturing so decided to contact the hire company.

FFFFF...


Where manufacturing?

There manufacturing. There castle.


Why are you talking that way?
 
2012-07-15 02:13:03 PM  

sage37: Greenbeanx: MrVeach: Greenbeanx:
at this point..I smell a celebrity intervention. I would think by now someone would knock it off or you'll be dead. Some friends she has.

No, she's past that stage. Everyone who might have cared are burned-out. She'll either die horribly, or have an experience that turns her into another Kirk Cameron.
Not sure which fate is worse...

=======================================

Or she might pull a Robert Downey Jr. and take a decade off to clean herself up, them make a stellar comeback. Everybody had him written off as a lost cause too. Granted, this doesn't seem likely, and personally I believe she'll end up either dead in a ditch somewhere after getting thrown from her car in a wreck or dead from an OD.
 
2012-07-15 02:26:37 PM  

jack_sawyer75: There their they're. Meh. I hate modern "writers".

When I was young writers took English or something equivilant, now they are communication majors making 16 bucks an hour


Going back to my lawn now.


equivilint, equivalent, whatever...
 
2012-07-15 02:30:36 PM  
www.reactionface.info

The porsche, not the skank.
 
2012-07-15 03:47:05 PM  
Volkswagen puts the kabash on Lohan's story
 
2012-07-15 03:48:12 PM  
Yeah, casually blaming what are arguably the best braking systems in the world, and a feather in the cap of its manufacturer, is pretty hilarious. Porsche is very serious about its brakes, thus their follow-up test and result is no surprise, as is the finding that LL is full of shiat.
 
2012-07-15 04:45:07 PM  

lisarenee3505: sage37: Greenbeanx: MrVeach: Greenbeanx:
at this point..I smell a celebrity intervention. I would think by now someone would knock it off or you'll be dead. Some friends she has.

No, she's past that stage. Everyone who might have cared are burned-out. She'll either die horribly, or have an experience that turns her into another Kirk Cameron.
Not sure which fate is worse...
=======================================

Or she might pull a Robert Downey Jr. and take a decade off to clean herself up, them make a stellar comeback. Everybody had him written off as a lost cause too. Granted, this doesn't seem likely, and personally I believe she'll end up either dead in a ditch somewhere after getting thrown from her car in a wreck or dead from an OD.


Difference is Robert Downey Jr. has talent. Her movies always bomb, too. How can she still afford Porsches? Seriously, who still hires ?
 
2012-07-15 05:34:23 PM  

sage37: Greenbeanx: MrVeach: Greenbeanx:
at this point..I smell a celebrity intervention. I would think by now someone would knock it off or you'll be dead. Some friends she has.

No, she's past that stage. Everyone who might have cared are burned-out. She'll either die horribly, or have an experience that turns her into another Kirk Cameron.
Not sure which fate is worse...


Presenting the future Mrs. Tom Cruise
 
2012-07-15 06:21:36 PM  

Tourney3p0: Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."


If I remove the cap to a car's master cylinder then the car's brakes are worthless. The only brakes available would be using the emergency brake. While the emergency brake does provide some braking ability, its not something most people think of in a panic situation.

Granted, it would be highly unusual for someone to remove the cap to a car's master cylinder and to leave it off. But it is possible that slamming on the brakes could produce enough pressure to blow a cap off that is broken or not properly installed. This is just one possible way that brakes on a car could quickly be rendered almost worthless.
 
2012-07-15 06:57:27 PM  

Chuck Wagon: Tourney3p0: Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."

If I remove the cap to a car's master cylinder then the car's brakes are worthless. The only brakes available would be using the emergency brake. While the emergency brake does provide some braking ability, its not something most people think of in a panic situation.

Granted, it would be highly unusual for someone to remove the cap to a car's master cylinder and to leave it off. But it is possible that slamming on the brakes could produce enough pressure to blow a cap off that is broken or not properly installed. This is just one possible way that brakes on a car could quickly be rendered almost worthless.


Um, what?
 
2012-07-15 06:59:06 PM  
I'm sure she confused the brake pedal with the gas pedal like those people who drive through farmers markets. She's not just aging physically folks.
 
2012-07-15 07:46:14 PM  

Chuck Wagon: Tourney3p0: Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."

If I remove the cap to a car's master cylinder then the car's brakes are worthless. The only brakes available would be using the emergency brake. While the emergency brake does provide some braking ability, its not something most people think of in a panic situation.

Granted, it would be highly unusual for someone to remove the cap to a car's master cylinder and to leave it off. But it is possible that slamming on the brakes could produce enough pressure to blow a cap off that is broken or not properly installed. This is just one possible way that brakes on a car could quickly be rendered almost worthless.


Well, I can see that you don't have any idea how a brake system works. Taking the cap off the master cylinder won't do anything until you can make all the fluid splash out and then you'd just get air in the lines and a spongy feeling. You could still pump up the brakes and stop. In the reservoir of the master cylinder, there is never any pressure so you could never blow the cap off by braking hard.

Most cars have the brake system split up, right rear and left front on one system and left rear, right front on the other. Cutting one brake like will take away 50% of the braking. Losing vacuum (or electric) assist would make the car much harder to stop, but not impossible. Brake systems are completely hydraulic, there are no linkages except a rod from the brake pedal lever to the master cylinder. Have never seen one fail, although I guess it's possible. The emergency or parking brake usually uses a mechanical linkage and usually only works the rear brakes.

The chances of brakes failing in a new car are very close to zero.
 
2012-07-16 01:03:10 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Fluorescent Testicle

FTFA: According to TMZ bosses at Porsche discovered Lindsay was blaming there manufacturing so decided to contact the hire company.

FFFFF...


Where manufacturing?

There manufacturing. There castle.


Why are you talking like that?
monstergirl.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-16 01:57:56 AM  

Chuck Wagon: Tourney3p0: Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."

If I remove the cap to a car's master cylinder then the car's brakes are worthless. The only brakes available would be using the emergency brake. While the emergency brake does provide some braking ability, its not something most people think of in a panic situation.

Granted, it would be highly unusual for someone to remove the cap to a car's master cylinder and to leave it off. But it is possible that slamming on the brakes could produce enough pressure to blow a cap off that is broken or not properly installed. This is just one possible way that brakes on a car could quickly be rendered almost worthless.


No. You are hopelessly wrong.
Anyway...

A lose of vacuum in the booster could cause someone to think the brakes failed. Just throwing that out there.
 
2012-07-16 02:27:09 AM  

italie: scruffy1: grinding_journalist: italie: Short of the cap on the master not being installed properly, lines snapping at connection points, caliper slides breaking, pads shattering, lines being cut on purpose, mechanical linkage breaks, booster poppet or diaphragm failure, or even something as freak as a rotor cracking?

In every single one of those scenarios, you'd still retain SOME braking power even in the event of a catastrophic failure of multiple parts. Brakes, being one of the most important safety systems in a car, have multiple redundancies built into them so that even if multiple things go wrong, you'll still be able to bring the car to a stop, albeit a bit more slowly than with a fully functional system.

/ok, if someone wanted to KILL her and did things to the car purposefully thats one thing
//but we'd definitely have heard about that, esp. after 2 different places inspected the car

Exactly. I had a brake line split on a 92 Pathfinder and still had enough braking ability to get it off the road and to an open lot a mile away. I'm sure that a Porsche has far more redundancies than a 20 year old SUV.



I'm not sure what redundancies both of you referring to, but in the last 50+ years I can only come up with the parking / e-brake. The actual braking systems has stayed relatively the same. Pedal, booster, master, lines, slave, piston forcing shoe/pad against drum/rotor. That's it. Throw in an ABS modulator if you are feeling frisky.

I not saying that any of these applied to her. She's lying through her meth worn teeth. All I am saying is that there are plenty of places a brake system can fail. You may be able to "get home" just fine with these failures. You probably wouldn't be able to stop a Porsche doing 125mph with a great deal of efficiency though. As much as we all know what happened, it's entirely possible that her brakes failed.

//Not saying she was doing 125mph either, but I know I would have been.


None of those things would magically heal themselves, so lying about the brakes failing when they will be inspected can only lead someone uncovering your lie.
 
2012-07-16 02:28:07 AM  

italie: Tourney3p0:

Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."


I'll just assume you've never worked in any sort of automotive service industry. It's amazing how badly someone can ignore a major issue with their car. Even more amazing how often it happens. She doesn't appear to very in tune to reality as it is.

//"So how long have you been driving using only your emergency brake Sir?"
///Yes, that question had to come from my mouth. I don't miss those days.


/Linkage break would be immediate no-stop, fwiw.


A failed linkage in a brand-new rental car?
 
2012-07-16 02:33:08 AM  

Chuck Wagon: Tourney3p0: Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."

If I remove the cap to a car's master cylinder then the car's brakes are worthless. The only brakes available would be using the emergency brake. While the emergency brake does provide some braking ability, its not something most people think of in a panic situation.

Granted, it would be highly unusual for someone to remove the cap to a car's master cylinder and to leave it off. But it is possible that slamming on the brakes could produce enough pressure to blow a cap off that is broken or not properly installed. This is just one possible way that brakes on a car could quickly be rendered almost worthless.


Not sure what cap you're talking about, but if it's the one where you add fluid, there is no pressure there. That's just a cover for the reservoir to keep the fluid from splashing out and water/debris from getting in.
 
2012-07-16 03:35:00 AM  
wow.

First a DUI
Then a hit and run
Now this?

HOW COME THIS WOMAN WITH ALL HER MONEY HASN'T GOTTEN A CHAUFFEUR BY NOW????
 
2012-07-16 08:32:54 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: italie: Tourney3p0:

Short of any of those systems magically disappearing, she would still have braking ability - at least long enough to say "something feels off. I'd better pull over."


I'll just assume you've never worked in any sort of automotive service industry. It's amazing how badly someone can ignore a major issue with their car. Even more amazing how often it happens. She doesn't appear to very in tune to reality as it is.

//"So how long have you been driving using only your emergency brake Sir?"
///Yes, that question had to come from my mouth. I don't miss those days.


/Linkage break would be immediate no-stop, fwiw.

A failed linkage in a brand-new rental car?



My wife's car just needed a motor at 10K due to a production issue. The late 90's mustangs were snapping rear suspension components within weeks. PT cruisers had AC systems that wouldn't make it off the showroom floor working. In the 80's GM had vehicles losing suspension and drive components out of the box. Not even going to bring up some of Toyota's software issues...

Stuff happens. A lot.

//Again, not saying there was ANYTHING wrong with her car, but you can't say it isn't possible.
 
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