GAT_00: The author is Erick Erickson.

Erickson also use to run the Georgia focused right wing political site, Peach Pundit. One race baiting member went by the name "Pete Randall" and claimed to be a local lawyer though no one of that name could be found in the state bar's records. Pete Randal, and his earlier name, Rouge109, had front page posting privledges that only Erickson could grant. Interestingly enough, when Erickson got the job at CNN, he turned Peach Pundit over to a moderate (by Georgia standards) Republican named Charlie Harper. Very quickly all posts by Pete Randall stopped. Strange that Pete would suddenly stop posting articles and comments at the exact same time Erickson did.

There's no way to prove Erickson and Randall were the same person since Erickson has never released the IP logs for the site. But read some of Randall's posts and judge for yourself. Link

MeinRS6: GhostFish: MeinRS6: The Bain crap is going no where.

Liberals are desperate because Obama sucks ass as president.

Laughable. You can do better than that. Put a little feeling into it.

But it's the truth. You'll only have to wait a few weeks to see I'm right.

Obama's team will milk this set of lies for as long as they can, then they will come up with a new set of lies and the Bain stuff will go by the wayside.

I'd bet a lot of money that we won't be talking about Bain in October.

Better, but still transparent. Next are you going to claim that if the sun comes up tomorrow that it means Obama sucks? You're making pretty safe bets that have no dependence on the accuracy of your claims.

Loucifer: MeinRS6: I'd bet a lot of money that we won't be talking about Bain in October.

I have a lot of money. I'll take that bet.

There's a sucker born every minute.

You must be young and not know much about presidential campaigns.

Since the GOP has absolutely no policy ideas, what else are we going to talk about during the campaigns?

dookdookdook: IlGreven: These do not absolve responsibility, and acting like they do is anathema to a free and civil society.

Fine, but if - hypothetically, because I have no effing clue - this really is the kind of arrangement that happens all the time and all the lawyers and regulators and shareholders are pretty much fine with it, it's not really fair to suddenly get outraged about it just because the guy doing it is your political opponent. That's just so.....Fox.

It's not that it is or isn't fine or abnormal or whatever. If the CEO wants to fark off, that's his business. Similarly, if the janitor wants to fark off, that's also his business. And it just may be nothing bad happens because of it. Well, with the CEO there's really nobody to actually fire him, especially if he's the sole shareholder. But let's go back to the janitor for a minute.

Let's say there's a janitor that just farks off from his job every night for a month, and nobody notices and it's all gravy. Then one night somebody takes a huge shiat on the tile, and it doesn't get cleaned up, and the next morning it's a shiat smear everywhere. Maybe somebody even slips in the shiat, cartoon banana-peel style, because why not? Who's ultimately responsible for it? The janitor, obviously. He can't go "well I wasn't holding my farking mop and bucket at the time, so it's not my responsibility to deal with shiat." Of course it is.

Now, imagine if Bain Capital had gone off the rails and done something really bad. I don't know, they restructured a microprocessor firm to ship missile guidance chips to Iran or something really ridiculous. Do you think Romney can go, "sure I was the sole shareholder, the sole director, the CEO, the president, the controlling person, and still getting paid for all that, but it's not my responsibility?"

Arguing good faith only goes so far. You can argue good faith like if your subordinates intentionally mislead you, or something glaringly obvious like that where a person could reasonably not have a clue. "I just farked off but wanted to keep all the jobs and the paycheck" has fiduciary responsibility trump good faith. You have to at least make an effort to try to know what the fark's going on as the highest executive officer, the highest director, and the president, to claim that no reasonable person could have known what was happening.

It's like signing on as the pilot, getting into the damn pilot's seat and then arguing that you're not responsible for crashing the plane because you covered your farking eyes. It doesn't just strain credulity, it rapes it in a back alley, calls up all its friends to take a turn, and then leaves it for dead in a dumpster.

GhostFish: You're making pretty safe bets that have no dependence on the accuracy of your claims.

I'm saying that there is X amount of mileage that Obama's team can expect to get out of this and the clock is ticking. It won't take long to see if I'm correct.

I would expect that the top libby liars will scream about Bain into the microphone at the Dem convention, but I don't see them getting any more mileage from their lies at that point in the game. Most people watching will have been informed of the truth by then. Most Dems will move on to other lies in an attempt to look less ridiculous by that point.

So basically Romney is saying that he'll leave the US in a heartbeat to go to Rio de Janeiro in 2016?

MeinRS6: GhostFish: You're making pretty safe bets that have no dependence on the accuracy of your claims.

I'm saying that there is X amount of mileage that Obama's team can expect to get out of this and the clock is ticking. It won't take long to see if I'm correct.

I would expect that the top libby liars will scream about Bain into the microphone at the Dem convention, but I don't see them getting any more mileage from their lies at that point in the game. Most people watching will have been informed of the truth by then. Most Dems will move on to other lies in an attempt to look less ridiculous by that point.

Do you think your friends and family would be proud of you for what you do here on Fark?

GhostFish: Do you think your friends and family would be proud of you for what you do here on Fark?

Why would they care about me making accurate predictions on Fark or anywhere else?

MeinRS6: GhostFish: Do you think your friends and family would be proud of you for what you do here on Fark?

Why would they care about me making accurate predictions on Fark or anywhere else?

Right. Well, goodnight.

MeinRS6: GhostFish: You're making pretty safe bets that have no dependence on the accuracy of your claims.

I'm saying that there is X amount of mileage that Obama's team can expect to get out of this and the clock is ticking. It won't take long to see if I'm correct.

I would expect that the top libby liars will scream about Bain into the microphone at the Dem convention, but I don't see them getting any more mileage from their lies at that point in the game. Most people watching will have been informed of the truth by then. Most Dems will move on to other lies in an attempt to look less ridiculous by that point.



Keep shaking that etch-a-sketch, it might work this time!

coeyagi: The same kind that name their kid "Krystal" instead of "I can obviously suck off your" Ball?

Went to high school with a girl named Krystal Cummings. Really should go to one of the reunions just to find out what she's doing with her life. The platinum dyed poofy hair of high school does seem to indicate a particular career trajectory.

Stark Castle?

Well, the State of Hawaii, at Obama's order, released a copy of his birth certificate... to make things fair for the republicans... if the IRS, at Romney's behest, releases his tax returns, I will not question the authenticity of said returns.

MeinRS6: Stark Castle?

You haven't seen Game of Thrones yet?! Do yourself a favor and watch one of the best series out atm.

moralpanic: MeinRS6: Stark Castle?

You haven't seen Game of Thrones yet?! Do yourself a favor and watch one of the best series out atm.

Are you talking about winterfell?

Screengrab from Romney campaign headquarters

coeyagi: tlchwi02: the thing that i find strange is that romney could provide documentation (his tax return, presumebly) that would put this whole thing to bed if he wanted to.

why doesn't mitt romney want to simply stop this issue? what is in those documents that he is so afraid of people seeing????

It's a smoking gun, probably. But at the same time, only a few GOPers are asking for it and the base probably doesn't care because it's all a liberal conspiracy according to Faux. At the point where Cain was imploding, he had so much other crap that I think the GOP was glad to see him go and they had plenty of Super PACs lighting his funeral pyre in favor of more "serious" candidates.

Romney is it. The establishment doesn't want Paul and as long as the GOP supports Mittens, as they will, they're hoping like hell several more news cycles and a September / October surprise will carry him through the storm.

The problem comes when stalwart institutions of press that are considered conservative come out swinging against Romney, chiding him for his non-responsiveness to campaign issues, failing to release tax data, and the rest... when you start seeing that in Bloomberg, WSJ, and Forbes, they aren't looking to support their guy, they're looking to find a way not to go down with him. Sometimes the smart guy in the room is the one who has the sense to get the heck out.

wgere would i send my resume to get a position on romneys campaign staff? they clearly need the help.

Ned Stark: wgere would i send my resume to get a position on romneys campaign staff? they clearly need the help.

Send it to Stark Castle.

MeinRS6: GhostFish: MeinRS6: The Bain crap is going no where.

Liberals are desperate because Obama sucks ass as president.

Laughable. You can do better than that. Put a little feeling into it.

But it's the truth. You'll only have to wait a few weeks to see I'm right.

Obama's team will milk this set of lies for as long as they can, then they will come up with a new set of lies and the Bain stuff will go by the wayside.

I'd bet a lot of money that we won't be talking about Bain in October.

I suppose we could talk about RomneyCare and his love of gun control in October. The Teabaggers will love that.

EngineerAU: Went to high school with a girl named Krystal Cummings.

I went to school with a guy named BJ Cummins. No joke. That was his name.

Good lord...only on fark would a post-midnight Saturday night thread about obama get 250+ remarks.
This place couldn't be more of a left-wing circle jerk if it tried

wspguy: This place couldn't be more of a left-wing circle jerk if it tried

Go to Freerepublic if facts bother you so much.

/honestly beginning to believe that when a repub whines about "libs" or "lefties", they're whining about objective reality

wspguy: Good lord...only on fark would a post-midnight Saturday night thread about obama get 250+ remarks.
This place couldn't be more of a left-wing circle jerk if it tried

You guys think about circle jerks a lot. Somethig you want to tell us?

cameroncrazy1984: The fact that they're trying to paint SEC documents as some sort of crazy conspiracy is hilarious.

LOLWUT?

The documents appear as they are. They simply don't mean what you think they mean. It's not reality's fault you know jack shiat about how SEC filings work.

It is just becoming humorous at this point watching fark libs raise their hands to demonstrate ignorance.

Corvus: Lets look at this:

Bain:
People say Romney was still working for Bain Capital when Romney says he was not.

Evidence: OFFICIAL SEC records STATE he was working for Bain those years

Birthers: Say Obama was not born in the US.

Evidence: OFFICIAL STATE RECORDS say Obama WAS Born in the US.

Yeah, one has official evidence supporting it the other has official evidence that says the opposite.

How is that the same again?

LOL, another ignorant dumb ass. The SEC filings say no such thing. SEC OFFICIALS STATE SO MUCH. He was the owner, he will appear on SEC filings. The titles he had don't even insinuate he made any decisions, SEC auditors have all said this. Seriously, liberals love showing their ignorance. You are ignorant.

MyRandomName: cameroncrazy1984: The fact that they're trying to paint SEC documents as some sort of crazy conspiracy is hilarious.

LOLWUT?

The documents appear as they are. They simply don't mean what you think they mean. It's not reality's fault you know jack shiat about how SEC filings work.

It is just becoming humorous at this point watching fark libs raise their hands to demonstrate ignorance.

That's right. A CEO, president, chairman, and sole ownership of a company has no involvement in their company, even if the SEC filing has their name on it.

Cubansaltyballs: Weaver95: Bontesla: I really thought I'd enjoy this scandal more but talking with Republicans brings out the violence within me.

i'm absolutely fascinated watching the GOP flub this whole debate over bain capital.

What's to flub? They have a clear choice... admit their "Job Creator" (blessings and peace be upon him) sent jobs overseas, destroyed companies for a profit and practiced what most people would call an abhorrent mutation of "capitalism"... or they can admit he lied to the SEC.

You should learn the definition of a false dichotomy.

MisterTweak: Wait, so the defense is that "he didn't actually *do* anything, he just got a paycheck"?

When your defense is that you did less for a company than the guy who emptied the garbage cans, but you get paid more in one month than he does in ten years, you might just wanna rethink that strategy a tiny bit.

I think Mitt confuses OJ Simpson's acquittal with actual innocence.

He was the farking legal owner. DURRRRRRRR, OWNERS GET PAID?!?!?!? Seriously, how dumb are liberals being?

Genevieve Marie: Cubansaltyballs: THAT is why the Republicans are scared. They can't escape it. Hell, with McCain, his money came from beer and Kerry's came from Ketchup, and Romney's comes from harvesting the nest-eggs and blood of the middle class to he can sell it to China and fatten his bank account in the Caymans.

Your whole comment was fantastic. I just reposted it on Facebook to give some context to a comment I made about private equity.

If Obama really can get that bit of truth across to people, he'll blow Mitt Romney away in the election.

LOL, so face book knows your ignorance... congrats on that.

Anenu: Let me get this straight question whether or not Romney was involved in company in a time when they did several unAmerican things at a time when he was listed as the CEO is the same as questing Obama's birth location or questioning his religion?

Seriously you farktards, he was the owner. Yes, he was involved. No he was not making primary decisions. Are you all that farking stupid as to how a leave of absence works? God damn you people are stupid.

MyRandomName: They simply don't mean what you think they mean. It's not reality's fault you know jack shiat about how SEC filings work.

You're so enlightened. Break it down for us then. How do you sign acquisition papers for a company and yet not be "involved in any way" with the operations of that company?

Because honestly? Those two things seem like the polar f*cking opposite of each other. Could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Enlighten us.

Dr. Mojo PhD: OgreMagi: Romney took a leave of absence fro Bain in 2009 to run the winter olympics. After that, he decided he was going to run for governor and chose to make his leave of absence permanent. This is all documented and there was nothing illegal about it.

No, of course not. The crux of the matter is he lied, on record. The "...or otherwise made fraudulent SEC filings" aspect of it is just to force him into the far less damaging "lied to the voters" aspect. He did one or the other, either he was in control of Bain, and therefore responsible for it (whether he decides that taking his hands off the steering wheel means he isn't still in the driver's seat or not), or he wasn't. It's a simple either-or proposition. Either the SEC filings are true, and he was the controlling person and the people were lied to, or the SEC filings were not true, and the SEC was lied to.

It's one or the other.

There's this queer fascination on "your" side of the argument with attempting to point out, as I mentioned above, this notion that because he may have chosen to fully or partially delegate all his tasks and responsibilities as the "controlling person," they weren't somehow still his. Maybe everything is clear sailing, maybe it's not. That's not really the point. The point is, at the end of the day, if the buck had to stop with anybody, it was going to stop with him.

Yet when he tried to establish his residency in Mass. for the governership:

When Mitt Romney was running for Massachusetts governor in 2002, it was in his interest to make his exit date from Bain Capital a little fuzzy. Democrats had challenged his residency, and he told the state ballot law commission that he returned to Massachusetts during his Salt Lake years to attend "were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth," Politico's Alexander Burns reports. Romney did not mention he worked for Bain, but for companies Bain invested in, like Staples, Marriott, and the Life Like Corporation. Link

I don't work for Walmart, sure I own the entire company, but I do work for Sam's Club.

I still wish I could land a job like him him where you get $100,000 with no responsibilities, no obligation to show up, no pressure... I might even work 3-4 of those jobs. Willard, do you know anyone who is hiring with those benefits? (of course he also chides Blah... people for wanting free stuff, so priceless.)

Bungles: I saw a good 10 minutes of Fox News today, waiting for a takeaway.

Their line is "Idiots who dislike Romney are jealous of personal financial success".

That's their entire line.

I'm sure Prince John and the Sherriff of Nottingham said something similar.

MyRandomName: Yes, he was involved.

Then he lied, because the paper said he was, and I quote "Not involved in any way"

MyRandomName: Anenu: Let me get this straight question whether or not Romney was involved in company in a time when they did several unAmerican things at a time when he was listed as the CEO is the same as questing Obama's birth location or questioning his religion?

Seriously you farktards, he was the owner. Yes, he was involved. No he was not making primary decisions. Are you all that farking stupid as to how a leave of absence works? God damn you people are stupid.

cretinbob: quizzical: I don't think Romney did anything illegal. I do think he has been misrepresenting the degree to which he was in charge of Bain's actions.
If he really did leave in 1999 and then Bain used the fact that Romney was still in charge as a selling point and to keep it's stock value up (Remember Romney was being listed as sole owner of 100% of the company stock) then yes, it's illegal.

Ok, this is just becoming an altruism, liberals are functionally retarded. HE WAS THE farkING OWNER YOU IGNORANT POS. Get that through your head. He will be on EVERY SEC FILING DUE TO THAT FACT.

I'm done, you liberals are just farking stupid.

MyRandomName: Anenu: Let me get this straight question whether or not Romney was involved in company in a time when they did several unAmerican things at a time when he was listed as the CEO is the same as questing Obama's birth location or questioning his religion?

Seriously you farktards, he was the owner. Yes, he was involved. No he was not making primary decisions. Are you all that farking stupid as to how a leave of absence works? God damn you people are stupid.

So, you're admitting he had little or nothing to do with the operations at Bain, and thus, his "private sector job creation" rhetoric is really him taking credit for other peoples' work?

Oooh, so you ARE saying he was involved? So he is responsible for taking over companies, stripping them, bankrupting them, and shipping the jobs overseas, all the while making hundreds of millions for himself?

OKAY then! Glad we have that cleared up!

MyRandomName:
I'm done, you liberals are just farking stupid.

Oh come on! You just got here! Hop on some more alts and we'll get this Sunday started early!

MyRandomName: I'm done,

That's odd. All the Republicans I haven't ignored -- you know, the ones who occasionally make halfway-sane posts -- have been unusually quiet lately.