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(CBS News)   Recycling is a good thing for cans and plastics. Not so much for dentist needles   (cbsnews.com) divider line 23
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2012-07-14 08:42:48 PM  
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2012-07-14 09:15:02 PM  
Seriously WTF? Needles cost about 24cents each, less than that, in quantity, and that's where he decides to cut costs?

Anybody can just walk into a drug store anywhere in The State Of New York, and buy a bag of 10, for $2.50.
The lollipops he gives away probably cost more than that.
 
2012-07-14 09:26:29 PM  

TommyymmoT: Seriously WTF? Needles cost about 24cents each, less than that, in quantity, and that's where he decides to cut costs?

Anybody can just walk into a drug store anywhere in The State Of New York, and buy a bag of 10, for $2.50.
The lollipops he gives away probably cost more than that.


Dr. Stephen Stein
J/k anyone can be a cheap arsehole
 
2012-07-14 09:27:55 PM  
Everyone on his staff must have been aware and it wasnt reported the first time it happened. People are trash.
 
2012-07-14 09:29:19 PM  
The lollipops he gives away probably cost more than that.

all i get is dum dum lollipops worth 3 cents and i have to make up a story to take more then one. tell me the name of your fancy pants 25+ cent lollipop dentist.
 
2012-07-14 09:31:07 PM  

starlost: The lollipops he gives away probably cost more than that.

all i get is dum dum lollipops worth 3 cents and i have to make up a story to take more then one. tell me the name of your fancy pants 25+ cent lollipop dentist.


Mine gave out Tootsie Pops.
Job security I guess.
 
2012-07-14 09:53:46 PM  

TommyymmoT: starlost: The lollipops he gives away probably cost more than that.

all i get is dum dum lollipops worth 3 cents and i have to make up a story to take more then one. tell me the name of your fancy pants 25+ cent lollipop dentist.

Mine gave out Tootsie Pops.
Job security I guess.


Mine got charged with molesting 15 year olds.

/SERIOUSLY dodged a bullet
 
2012-07-14 10:24:50 PM  
Recycling is not reusing, subby.
 
2012-07-14 10:29:28 PM  
The Dentist III: Same Syringe,Different Mouth
 
2012-07-14 10:33:19 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: TommyymmoT: Seriously WTF? Needles cost about 24cents each, less than that, in quantity, and that's where he decides to cut costs?

Anybody can just walk into a drug store anywhere in The State Of New York, and buy a bag of 10, for $2.50.
The lollipops he gives away probably cost more than that.

Dr. Stephen Stein
J/k anyone can be a cheap arsehole


His Highlands Ranch office was in the National Jewish Health building.

/just sayin'
 
2012-07-14 10:41:40 PM  
No excuses, that is an evil farking dentist.

/you have to be one cheap ass MFer to reuse needles/disposable syringes on different patients
 
2012-07-14 10:42:58 PM  
Why the hell do that? It's not like they cost anything. Maybe he ran out of supplies and reused them until he got in new stock? Also, once you use a needle it gets dull. Damn near impossible to use one for IV twice, IM maybe, but it sounds like many were being used IV.

Maybe they were the ones that are all metal and he tried autoclaving and resharpening them?
 
2012-07-14 10:45:07 PM  

Sgt Oddball:

Mine got charged with molesting 15 year olds.


That bothers me less than giving people terminal diseases.

There's a slim chance a 15 year old might have literally asked to be "molested," but I'd imagine there even are fewer people who'd ask for fungal infections in their brains (an AIDS thing) or liver cancer (from Hep C).

I'm sure most sensible parents would rather have their teenager felt up than infected too.
 
2012-07-14 10:53:42 PM  
Friend of a friend had him as her dentist, so I'm getting a kick...

She has to go in to get tested. Fingers crossed and all that.
 
2012-07-14 11:00:38 PM  
It is possible to semi-safely reuse needles: in ACT UP we'd advise filling them with bleach, squirting that out, then repeating the process with water. As a last resort of course, and we emphasized that.

It is slightly iffy but it beats the old time practice of two buddies cooking up a strong hit and sharing it: the first guy takes half, contributing his a bit of his own blood, then passes it to his friend. Even before HIV and hepatitis C caught on there were lots of good microbial reasons not to get "fluid-bonded" in this manner.

However, like I said, even broke-ass junkies reusing bleached out syringes is still iffier than it should be, which explains the purpose of needle exchanges. There's simply no excuse for a medical/dental practicioner reusing needles: I can't think of a locality where it's illegal for a dentist to buy or possess those.

Justice would be giving him HIV, Hep C and MRSA and seeing how he likes it.

By the way, some of the most generous people I've known were Jews. And lots of the stingiest can be found among my fellow peckerwoods: Sarah Palin comes to mind. Just sayin'.
 
2012-07-14 11:13:02 PM  
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2012-07-15 12:02:57 AM  

lack of warmth: Recycling is not reusing, subby.


That's exactly my first thought.

Properly sterilized at high temperatures needles represent a load of stainless steel for recycling. Although I don't know if they do that.

Run your medical waste through a thermal deploymerization rig and you've got biologically clean feedstocks and metals.
 
2012-07-15 12:21:49 AM  

wildcardjack: lack of warmth: Recycling is not reusing, subby.

That's exactly my first thought.

Properly sterilized at high temperatures needles represent a load of stainless steel for recycling. Although I don't know if they do that.

Run your medical waste through a thermal deploymerization rig and you've got biologically clean feedstocks and metals.

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The plastic disposable needles that he should have been using have very little steel in them at all.
If he was using the old steel and glass needles, someone should apprise him of the fact that this is not the 1930s, and it's not even cost effective to use them any more, when you factor in the labor and equipment costs to maintain them, store them, and the associated downtime for for turn around before you can use them again.
 
2012-07-15 01:39:25 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Why the hell do that? It's not like they cost anything. Maybe he ran out of supplies and reused them until he got in new stock? Also, once you use a needle it gets dull. Damn near impossible to use one for IV twice, IM maybe, but it sounds like many were being used IV.

Maybe they were the ones that are all metal and he tried autoclaving and resharpening them?


I'm in nursing school, and my mother showed me her mother's nursing kit. Each nurse where she worked has their own needles and in the kit there was a stone for honing the edge between uses. I shudder to think about some of my classmates being responsible for cleaning and sharpening their own stuff. In 60 or 70 years, people will probably laugh about broad spectrum antibiotics or something else we hold dear right now.

I watched a "How it's Made" tonight about how they make new porcelain tooth fillings. The dentist drilled out a tooth, made a mold out of the hole with silicone and shot it with a 3D camera, then CNC'd her a custom filling on-site and it was installed, polished, and done inside 90 minutes. Hooray first world problems!
 
2012-07-15 02:24:02 AM  

JonZoidberg: Lars The Canadian Viking: Why the hell do that? It's not like they cost anything. Maybe he ran out of supplies and reused them until he got in new stock? Also, once you use a needle it gets dull. Damn near impossible to use one for IV twice, IM maybe, but it sounds like many were being used IV.

Maybe they were the ones that are all metal and he tried autoclaving and resharpening them?

I'm in nursing school, and my mother showed me her mother's nursing kit. Each nurse where she worked has their own needles and in the kit there was a stone for honing the edge between uses. I shudder to think about some of my classmates being responsible for cleaning and sharpening their own stuff. In 60 or 70 years, people will probably laugh about broad spectrum antibiotics or something else we hold dear right now.

I watched a "How it's Made" tonight about how they make new porcelain tooth fillings. The dentist drilled out a tooth, made a mold out of the hole with silicone and shot it with a 3D camera, then CNC'd her a custom filling on-site and it was installed, polished, and done inside 90 minutes. Hooray first world problems!

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Holy crap! Hone them?
I was on a regimen that required me to self inject a few times a week, and those needles were of such a fine gauge, that the thinnest sewing needle you've ever seen would be like a railroad spike in comparison.
They didn't even leave a mark, and very seldom did I even bleed.

This is not 1930. We don't launder toilet paper these days either.

By the way.
"1st World"? Only barely, though I must admit we have the best TV shows telling us otherwise.
 
2012-07-15 02:28:01 AM  

Apos: The Dentist III: Same Syringe,Different Mouth Dentition


May as well keep the acronym.
 
2012-07-15 06:58:33 AM  
I didn't read this article but have read others and seen it on the news.

I haven't heard any explanation of why he did this. Like others have said, needles are cheap so I'm not sure if he was trying to cut costs or a psychopath.
 
2012-07-15 04:58:18 PM  
I am old & falling apart. I have Kidney Dialysis 3 times a week. Other than being boring as hell & If I don't go I would die it is no big deal. This place uses needles by the ton - I bet it you had the salvage to them you could earn about 23 cents a day. They must use at least eleventy billion needles on me alone. What the hell is this jerk thinking. I doubt if they cost 2 cents each.
 
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