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2012-07-14 02:08:01 PM
Cool guy. Now if only all cops could be that awesome.
 
2012-07-14 03:17:26 PM
A few points I took away from this:

With the laser, there's no blaming the guy next to you.
He aims at the headlight, so those license plate covers are useless.
He's looking for people going 20mph over the speed limit (attaches points to the license, harder to argue that you were really going the limit, and the radar or speedometer must "be a little off.")
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-14 03:52:34 PM
With the laser, there's no blaming the guy next to you.
He aims at the headlight, so those license plate covers are useless.


The first isn't entirely true. At close range the laser can reliably hit only one car. At typical shooting range the beam can hit two cars, especially when aimed at a headlight rather than a license plate.

License plate covers are nearly useless as far as I can tell. I have shot a laser gun at one so I'm not just repeating rumors. They might work sometimes. Maybe they cut 90% of the 904μ reflection. The last 10% (headlights, etc.) is often enough to do you in. Cutting reflection by 90% does not cause a 90% reduction in range or detection probability.
 
2012-07-14 03:55:47 PM
That's a pretty cool device. The guy filming was probably looking for trouble and got a cop who politely schooled him instead. I do give the guy who made the video credit for giving props to the officer.
 
2012-07-14 03:55:48 PM

Earguy: He's looking for people going 20mph over the speed limit


Almost always the de facto speed limit is 9mph over the posted limit, unless it's revenue collection day, in which anything goes. I've had two speeding tickets total, one when I was 16 and another about 10 years ago for 5mph over at the bottom of a half mile hill in Oklahoma on a day when I saw dozens of people stopped by what must have been every trooper the state had.

I actually drive pretty fast, I just do so carefully.
 
2012-07-14 04:20:45 PM

vossiewulf: I actually drive pretty fast, I just do so carefully.


As I'm sure every person who drives fast thinks they do.
 
2012-07-14 04:53:24 PM
The way police officers should conduct themselves. Way to go Officer Graham.
 
2012-07-14 05:01:18 PM

Earguy: He aims at the headlight, so those license plate covers are useless.


I thought those were to scam the photo things (which the mythbusters completely busted) -- sure you're speeding and they know you're speeding, but they can't read your plate to mail you your ticket. In person with a radar gun? The guy can pull over "the red car" that he clocked without having to read your plate first.
 
2012-07-14 05:06:17 PM

Pincy: vossiewulf: I actually drive pretty fast, I just do so carefully.

As I'm sure every person who drives fast thinks they do.


If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.
 
2012-07-14 05:32:40 PM
Anybody notice the officer's mouth movements are just like Sylvester Stallone?
 
2012-07-14 05:44:07 PM
That cop is one cool customer.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-14 05:44:12 PM
Donnchadha

There are different kinds of license plate covers.

One license plate cover is alleged to defeat photo radar and the like by making the plate invisible from an angle, like the limited visiblity screens they put on traffic signals so you can't see them from the wrong place.

Another license plate cover absorbs infrared light so the laser beam doesn't bounce off your plate. This kind is meant to defeat laser, not camera enforcement.

You can also spray stuff on your plate to avoid cameras. A few tests showed that spray-on products don't work.
 
2012-07-14 05:52:32 PM

ZAZ: Donnchadha

There are different kinds of license plate covers.

One license plate cover is alleged to defeat photo radar and the like by making the plate invisible from an angle, like the limited visiblity screens they put on traffic signals so you can't see them from the wrong place.

Another license plate cover absorbs infrared light so the laser beam doesn't bounce off your plate. This kind is meant to defeat laser, not camera enforcement.

You can also spray stuff on your plate to avoid cameras. A few tests showed that spray-on products don't work.


The problem with that is, if you successfully obscure your plate from a speed camera, they'll also be obscured to a car-mounted camera. If they can't see your plate on their little screen, you're pulled over and fined anyway
 
2012-07-14 06:02:27 PM

vossiewulf: If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.


26 years, biatch, yo.
 
2012-07-14 06:06:24 PM
I live in a seriously farked up state, but one feature of this dump is only one license plate is required and that's on the rear of the car.

You can't cover the license plate of course, but they will let you put a hitch bike rack on your car, and if your bike is properly built and accessorized, it's pretty difficult to see the license plate, because that's where this 4" diameter pole is followed by gears, chains, bike bottle, lock, and lots of shiny reflective metal and stuff.

I have a theory (and it is mine) that my bike has saved me from several photo radar tickets.
 
2012-07-14 06:45:02 PM
This just irritates me more about the time a racist cop wrote me a ticket for 11 over when I wasn't even going that fast. I was travelling in the middle of a pack and would've had to hit the car in front of me in order to speed. The cop must've picked up the lead car and chose me for the ticket. The really stupid part is he ended up screwing one of his own, since I was on my way to deliver a pizza to one of his buddies. It had cooled nicely.

Same department pulled a buddy of mine and searched his car long enough to make him late to school (he attended a rival school and had to travel to the other school for certain classes). When they got done, all he got was driving too fast for conditions for doing the speed limit on a clear day. He was a manager at McDonalds and he stopped their free food.

On the other hand Officer Graham must a good guy to be around. He is a much better example of how a cop can keep peace. I bet his burgers are made 'good' without the spit and get all the liters of cola he needs.
 
2012-07-14 06:49:26 PM

MasterAdkins: The way police officers should conduct themselves. Way to go Officer Graham.


Exactly! That is an officer of the law.
 
2012-07-14 06:54:09 PM
This police officer was immediately demoted for failing to maintain the fear/intimidation chasm between the public his badge demands.
 
2012-07-14 06:59:31 PM

RoyBatty: vossiewulf: If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.

26 years, biatch, yo.


28 years, which means I'll wreck while posting this on my iPhooooooooooooooooooooo

Damn
 
2012-07-14 07:23:01 PM
I recently moved back to Denver, CO after being out-of-state for a short time. I just picked up the latest Denver Westword paper, and the cover article is about DPD, their history of police brutality, and what their new chief of trying to do about it.

After reading that article today (and being genuinely scared of being stopped by DPD for YEARS now), it was nice to watch this video.

/yes, I'm sure there are good DPD officers, but the bad ones really seem to overshadow the good ones...
 
2012-07-14 07:58:47 PM

lack of warmth: On the other hand Officer Graham must a good guy to be around. He is a much better example of how a cop can keep peace. I bet his burgers are made 'good' without the spit and get all the liters of cola he needs.


Luls.

There are good cops out there that like their job, and are more than happy to explain all their cool state funded toys they get. I've met several myself. Then there's the cops(we actually hear about on a regular basis) who beat restrained prisoners and get a month paid vacation for it.

My bro-in-law became a cop a couple years ago. He's a cool guy. I mean, he's banging my sister, but other than that he's a cool guy.
 
2012-07-14 08:22:11 PM

Pincy: vossiewulf: I actually drive pretty fast, I just do so carefully.

As I'm sure every person who drives fast thinks they do.


Odds are, you drive a Buick.

You frequently drive in the left lane of a 3-4 lane freeway.

And you go just under the speed limit.
 
2012-07-14 08:27:56 PM
Much more accurate than the "old school" hand held speed guns i used to use. You had to get them certified, yes, and they came with a speed "tuning fork" where you slap the fork on the dashboard and hold it in front of the gun,and it would give you the speed written on the fork. Good way to make sure that it was working right. That being said, we then went to a "mounted" speed gun with a small box that had a "off / on " toggle switch, as well as a "lock" button that you would lock the speed of the car in before they had a chance to see you and brake. Most people would just accept the ticket, but some would biatch and ask to see the speed on the dash unit. That was fine, i had no problem showing them. And yes, i gave people at least 10 over before i even pulled them over, and then it would depend on their attitude, past driving history, etc...if i wrote them or not.
 
2012-07-14 09:33:50 PM
Good cop....we need more of those.
 
2012-07-14 09:42:50 PM
Hmmm. Having recently used a laser distance measuring device in the sunlight I can only hope that his is much stronger than mine because I could not find the dot.

Which brings me to wonder why it's ok for cops to shine a laser into drivers eyes while a kid with a key-chain five miles away from a helicopter gets arrested?
 
2012-07-14 10:00:42 PM

Rich Cream: Hmmm. Having recently used a laser distance measuring device in the sunlight I can only hope that his is much stronger than mine because I could not find the dot.

Which brings me to wonder why it's ok for cops to shine a laser into drivers eyes while a kid with a key-chain five miles away from a helicopter gets arrested?


/facepalms. the laser is INVISIBLE, it's a IR laser.
 
2012-07-14 10:02:03 PM

Broktun: RoyBatty: vossiewulf: If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.

26 years, biatch, yo.

28 years, which means I'll wreck while posting this on my iPhooooooooooooooooooooo

Damn


31 years
 
2012-07-14 11:31:37 PM

Raider_dad: Broktun: RoyBatty: vossiewulf: If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.

26 years, biatch, yo.

28 years, which means I'll wreck while posting this on my iPhooooooooooooooooooooo

Damn

31 years


6 years .. YEAH, BEAT THAT

(or in other words, none since I got my license, and I do drive faster than most)
 
2012-07-14 11:39:01 PM

findthefish: Good cop....we need more of those.


The overwhelming mass majority of cops are good guys

It's the crimnals that are that are the peice of shiat

A fact that we have forgotten over the past 25 years
 
2012-07-15 12:19:34 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: Rich Cream: Hmmm. Having recently used a laser distance measuring device in the sunlight I can only hope that his is much stronger than mine because I could not find the dot.

Which brings me to wonder why it's ok for cops to shine a laser into drivers eyes while a kid with a key-chain five miles away from a helicopter gets arrested?

/facepalms. the laser is INVISIBLE, it's a IR laser.


Then how does he know where it's pointed?
 
2012-07-15 01:08:37 AM

Rich Cream: a key-chain five miles away from a helicopter gets arrested?


media.comicvine.com
 
2012-07-15 01:40:32 AM

RoyBatty: vossiewulf: If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.

26 years, biatch, yo.


30, suck it.
 
2012-07-15 02:42:15 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: Rich Cream: Hmmm. Having recently used a laser distance measuring device in the sunlight I can only hope that his is much stronger than mine because I could not find the dot.

Which brings me to wonder why it's ok for cops to shine a laser into drivers eyes while a kid with a key-chain five miles away from a helicopter gets arrested?

/facepalms. the laser is INVISIBLE, it's a IR laser.


So you don't think IR can cause problems just because it's invisible? The lasers they use are 10 watts, invisible or not they would be able to do permanent damage to your vision. That is, of course, unless it had a duty cycle of around .0005%, which would be the correct answer to why they're allowed to shine lasers in your face. They're only on for
 
2012-07-15 02:43:04 AM
whoops, using a less than sign cut off that post. As I was saying, they're only on for less than 30ns at a time, pulsed 200 times a second.
 
2012-07-15 05:09:36 AM

BunkyBrewman: That's a pretty cool device. The guy filming was probably looking for trouble and got a cop who politely schooled him instead. I do give the guy who made the video credit for giving props to the officer.


Yes. A rare "huh. sometimes even the cops are right" moment.
 
2012-07-15 06:51:06 AM

Rezurok: So you don't think IR can cause problems just because it's invisible? The lasers they use are 10 watts, invisible or not they would be able to do permanent damage to your vision. That is, of course, unless it had a duty cycle of around .0005%, which would be the correct answer to why they're allowed to shine lasers in your face. They're only on for


Just to be pendantic, you're missing a "milli" in there somewhere. Any laser that approaches 1 watt is used for scientific or military purposes and certainly not certified for use in consumer devices.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-15 07:56:23 AM
The LTI UltraLyte "LR" (long range) model is 62 microwatts acording to a calibration certificate I saw. That must be average power, 125 .5 microjoule pulses per second. If the laser is 10 watts the pulse duration is 50 ns. I thought it was shorter.
 
2012-07-15 10:29:01 AM
Exactly the way I would handle some pia with a camera.

I would drone on and on and on until the guy begged for mercy.

And then go on for another 10 minutes until he started weeping for me to stop.

/my kind of cop
 
2012-07-15 10:46:03 AM

Donnchadha: Rezurok: So you don't think IR can cause problems just because it's invisible? The lasers they use are 10 watts, invisible or not they would be able to do permanent damage to your vision. That is, of course, unless it had a duty cycle of around .0005%, which would be the correct answer to why they're allowed to shine lasers in your face. They're only on for

Just to be pendantic, you're missing a "milli" in there somewhere. Any laser that approaches 1 watt is used for scientific or military purposes and certainly not certified for use in consumer devices.




they are expensive, but they are out there...
 
2012-07-15 10:54:05 AM
Classy cop. Clone him. Hopefully he will be a career LEO and become Chief of a Mid-Sized city.

from a long ago and far away reality," Quiet professionalism".

Hopefully someone linked this video to the town manager where he works as well to whatever training facility he graduated from. Also to his parents.

/I normally don't like most cops but, that was just well done.

//Nicely done Officer!
 
2012-07-15 11:48:15 AM

Basily Gourt: Exactly the way I would handle some pia with a camera.

I would drone on and on and on until the guy begged for mercy.

And then go on for another 10 minutes until he started weeping for me to stop.

/my kind of cop


That's the way it should be rather than the more common response.
 
2012-07-15 01:53:35 PM

vossiewulf: Pincy: vossiewulf: I actually drive pretty fast, I just do so carefully.

As I'm sure every person who drives fast thinks they do.

If you can do better than 24 years without an accident, I'm listening.


I actually can, 26 years and counting and still not a single accident. I have been in 8 close calls, 5 of them, if I had not been on a bike, I'd not be sitting here writing this. and without fail, each and every one of the 8 situations, I had to speed up in order to get out of it alive... barely making it each time.

So Yes I can, with first hand experience, concur with vossiewulf, SPEED DOES NOT KILL
But what does kill, is the inability of the driver to handle their vehicle at speeds
 
2012-07-15 02:33:08 PM
Green Cove Springs? Man, what a sh*thole...
If there's any doubt in your mind that Florida is part of "The South", go to Green Cove Springs.
 
2012-07-15 03:39:08 PM

Donnchadha: Rezurok: So you don't think IR can cause problems just because it's invisible? The lasers they use are 10 watts, invisible or not they would be able to do permanent damage to your vision. That is, of course, unless it had a duty cycle of around .0005%, which would be the correct answer to why they're allowed to shine lasers in your face. They're only on for

Just to be pendantic, you're missing a "milli" in there somewhere. Any laser that approaches 1 watt is used for scientific or military purposes and certainly not certified for use in consumer devices.


No, I'm not. They are pulsed lasers, and they shoot 10 watt 904μm beams for a few nanoseconds at a time. I'm not missing a milli. Look it up.
 
2012-07-15 03:41:47 PM
A few comments in here about the practical speed vs the posted speed reminded me of last weekend. I picked my elderly mother up to bring her to my house in a neighbouring city for dinner. The posted limit on the highway was 80 KM and with mum in the car, I tend to stick to the limit. Buddy behind me didn't like that one bit. He blastedt me with his horn as he passed so I responded with a little tap of the horn and a wave. That earned me the finger. I'd love to have caught up to him at a light (or better yet, a radar trap) and told him the posted speed is the maximum, pal not the minimum but he was long gone.
 
2012-07-16 09:50:20 AM

stoppit: A few comments in here about the practical speed vs the posted speed reminded me of last weekend. I picked my elderly mother up to bring her to my house in a neighbouring city for dinner. The posted limit on the highway was 80 KM and with mum in the car, I tend to stick to the limit. Buddy behind me didn't like that one bit. He blastedt me with his horn as he passed so I responded with a little tap of the horn and a wave. That earned me the finger. I'd love to have caught up to him at a light (or better yet, a radar trap) and told him the posted speed is the maximum, pal not the minimum but he was long gone.


Both you and your mother would be safer if you just ran flow of traffic. Just because she's old doesn't meant she blows up if you exceed 80 km/h. People cutting around you is more dangerous than picking up a bit more velocity.
 
2012-07-16 10:09:29 AM

ha-ha-guy: stoppit: A few comments in here about the practical speed vs the posted speed reminded me of last weekend. I picked my elderly mother up to bring her to my house in a neighbouring city for dinner. The posted limit on the highway was 80 KM and with mum in the car, I tend to stick to the limit. Buddy behind me didn't like that one bit. He blastedt me with his horn as he passed so I responded with a little tap of the horn and a wave. That earned me the finger. I'd love to have caught up to him at a light (or better yet, a radar trap) and told him the posted speed is the maximum, pal not the minimum but he was long gone.

Both you and your mother would be safer if you just ran flow of traffic. Just because she's old doesn't meant she blows up if you exceed 80 km/h. People cutting around you is more dangerous than picking up a bit more velocity.


I was leeping up to traffic. He was the only one being a tool. So if one guy speeds ... We all should ?
 
2012-07-18 12:53:33 AM
Guess guy with camera forgot to ask the officer if he had a bench warrant to operate the speed trap.

These things have to be approved by a judge.
 
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