Joshudan: The song is about getting off drugs; specifically heroine.

This has been debunked long, long ago, my friend.

MAYORBOB: Why scary and not dumbass for tag? Oh right, because the guy has a mental disorder. Why not apply tag to his father:

Father: You're where? How's about I drive right on over and save you from making your typical poor decisions?

Son: No that's alright. I'll just hike on over 50 miles to the lake and somehow get a boat right. I know the desert is filled with scorpions, snakes, lacks water, and will likely kill even someone who knows what they're doing but I got my dog to keep me company.

Father: Okey Dokey then.

Whats your excuse for the mistakes you make?

Lucky you. That you have it all figured out. Until you don't one day.

dryknife: This is why children should have autism vaccination shots early in childhood.

Dr. Smith & Dr. Wesson gives them just fine

Joshudan: SharkInfested: PC LOAD LETTER: NAME THE FRACKING HORSE ALREADY

THIS!!!!

Hate the flippin' song for that reason

I hope you all are joking, but if not; Horse with no name --> "Horse" --> "H"
The song is about getting off drugs; specifically heroine.

My favorite mis-sung lyric was a friend's brother who sang "I've been through the desert on a horse with no legs"

One of my favorites:

"Excuse me...while I kiss this guy."

titwrench: If I read that correctly it was a 50 mile hike. Even with a 60 pound pack on an inexperienced hiker could pull that off in 3-4 days. He was following a river so there was food and water. I realize he is "autistic" but if he is functional enough that his family let him make the trek alone he should be functional enough to pull it off. I think there is something else to this story.

No, you're confusing functional with able. "High-functioning" autistics are not like this guy. We have some right here on Fark. This guy sounds like some of my former clients, who could live alone, and even hold their own jobs, but had no clue about cause&effect thinking or foreplanning. They could get themselves to work, and yet on any given day would decide not to go because they didn't feel like it--and then genuinely not understand why they got fired. (This was different, btw, from my retarded clients who were simply not ABLE to do certain things, but well understood actions have consequences)

So this guy probably set off on his hike, thinking he understood what he was getting into, but with no mental means of doing things like rationing his water, no understanding of how long 50 miles really was, or how long it would take him to complete the trip. So when he didn't make it on the first day, I guarantee he sat down, drank all his water, ate all his food, and couldn't figure out why he wasn't there already.

This should be a wake-up call to parents of autistic children that just because they can do everything a "normal" person can do--they still don't think like a normal person, and should be prevented from doing things like this just because they--and you--think they can.

titwrench: Gyrfalcon: titwrench: If I read that correctly it was a 50 mile hike. Even with a 60 pound pack on an inexperienced hiker could pull that off in 3-4 days. He was following a river so there was food and water. I realize he is "autistic" but if he is functional enough that his family let him make the trek alone he should be functional enough to pull it off. I think there is something else to this story.

No, you're confusing functional with able. "High-functioning" autistics are not like this guy. We have some right here on Fark. This guy sounds like some of my former clients, who could live alone, and even hold their own jobs, but had no clue about cause&effect thinking or foreplanning. They could get themselves to work, and yet on any given day would decide not to go because they didn't feel like it--and then genuinely not understand why they got fired. (This was different, btw, from my retarded clients who were simply not ABLE to do certain things, but well understood actions have consequences)

So this guy probably set off on his hike, thinking he understood what he was getting into, but with no mental means of doing things like rationing his water, no understanding of how long 50 miles really was, or how long it would take him to complete the trip. So when he didn't make it on the first day, I guarantee he sat down, drank all his water, ate all his food, and couldn't figure out why he wasn't there already.

This should be a wake-up call to parents of autistic children that just because they can do everything a "normal" person can do--they still don't think like a normal person, and should be prevented from doing things like this just because they--and you--think they can.

Fair enough. I have a very anecdotal and rudimentary understanding of autism. I grew up with a kid that wasn't even remotely functioning or able but you give him a map and a bike and he could get anywhere. He would go on 100 mile rides by himself. I also have friends with kids that are autistic ...

It's hard to explain the difference--I'm not a psychologist or an expert on why autistic people are "just different" in some respects. But I've seen it, and I know that some of my former autistic clients would be quite capable of both working a regular job and living on their own, and yet would do exactly this kind of thing: Set off on a long hike without any real comprehension of what might happen. On the flip side, I've seen individuals with autism who could make a 50-mile hike with no map and never get lost and yet couldn't understand why they needed to do their own laundry. It is a mysterious and puzzling disorder.

doglover: Pray 4 Mojo: That's the first thing I think of when I hear about these 'rescues'... and it farking pisses me off.

/Am I a bad person?


Yes. Also an idjit because most of the time rescuers are volunteer. Sure Helicopters cost money, but when you see 100 people in the forest looking for someone with flashlights, usually the taxpayers aren't really footings any bills. So refusing to "pay" just makes you an asshole.

Besides, all the rescue operation in the world rolled up together don't cost nearly as much as the Pentagon's annual budget for practice missiles and big gun food.

Similarly, if I personally think that driving is stupid and dangerous, should I get pissed off every time that they have to rescue people involved in accidents? There's a level of risk to everything you do, and drawing the line of what should be "acceptable" risk is tough. I think it's completely acceptable that these services are provided when they need to be, and hopefully the risk of death or serious injury prevents most people from abusing it to the point where it becomes excessively costly.

Isildur: MAYORBOB: Why scary and not dumbass for tag? Oh right, because the guy has a mental disorder. Why not apply tag to his father:

Father: You're where? How's about I drive right on over and save you from making your typical poor decisions?

Son: No that's alright. I'll just hike on over 50 miles to the lake and somehow get a boat right. I know the desert is filled with scorpions, snakes, lacks water, and will likely kill even someone who knows what they're doing but I got my dog to keep me company.

Father: Okey Dokey then.


Thank you for perfectly articulating why the story made no farking sense to me. What the hell?

For your simple mind. The mans 28 years old. Dad couldn't make him do anything he didn't want to do. This doesn't seem to penetrate some peoples worldview. You have this vision that this guy is retarded and not capable of being responsible for himself. Autistic does not equal retarded.

digitalrain: Joshudan: SharkInfested: PC LOAD LETTER: NAME THE FRACKING HORSE ALREADY

THIS!!!!

Hate the flippin' song for that reason

I hope you all are joking, but if not; Horse with no name --> "Horse" --> "H"
The song is about getting off drugs; specifically heroine.

My favorite mis-sung lyric was a friend's brother who sang "I've been through the desert on a horse with no legs"

One of my favorites:

"Excuse me...while I kiss this guy."

I have a recording of Hendrix very specifically saying "Excuse me while I kiss that guy" in concert.

Joshudan: PC LOAD LETTER: Joshudan: The song is about getting off drugs; specifically heroine heroin.

This has been debunked long, long ago, my friend.

OK, it was banned because it was about heroin, so the band came up with a story about it being inspired by a Dali painting and an Escher drawing. I'm not sure if that helps their case much...

They freely admitted to Penn Gillette that they were high on weed when writing this. They also say that this was inspired by the singer who remembers living in the desert as a kid. Having been in the desert plenty of times, I think it very much captures a lot of my thoughts about the desert. And the part about the ocean is actually quite clever and is the best part of the song. Until last week, I seriously thought Neil Young was in America, simply because, well, that's him singing, right? So take my thoughts with a grain of salt probably as I am a proven moron.