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2012-07-14 12:16:38 PM  

consider this: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Mrbogey: Citation needed.

Still claiming Martin jumped him from behind when we have an affadavit that says Zimmerman confronted Martin first.

Oh, and lying to the judge. That really helps his credibility there.

There is no evidence that GZ confronted TM. The only statement that mentions how the confrontation started is from GZ and he says that it was TM who initiated.

The prosecution also admitted in the probable cause hearing that there was no evidence as to who initiated the confrontation.


That certainly doesn't fit the narrative.
 
2012-07-14 12:17:13 PM  

Kome: Warlordtrooper: Kome: O'Mara's motion argued the comment showed bias.

The courts tend to be biased this when you deliberately lie to them.

As the accused he has the right to a fair trial. Which he cannot get if the court is biased against him

Fair runs both ways. If he isn't going to play by the rules, he is forfeiting any shot of it being a fair trial. Judges, however, are pretty used to defendants trying to game the system, though, and still manage to keep trials fair.


That's not quite how the U.S. legal system works, fortunately. Being deceptive during the bail process does not forfeit your right to a fair trial.
 
2012-07-14 12:18:30 PM  

steamingpile: But in the court of public opinion most of the antigun crowd has already convicted him, I definitely think they are biased against him and will let evidence in they normally wouldn't just to get a conviction in an election year.


I am pro gun but also think Zimmerman is a douchebag who couldn't make police academy so he became the self appointed gun carrying neighborhood watch. The gun he carried was also issued in error because of a previous conviction against him.

The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.
 
2012-07-14 12:19:19 PM  

Party Boy: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]

Why does it always have to be about popcorn?


www.browneyedbaker.com
 
2012-07-14 12:19:42 PM  
From a previous article: "Judge Lester writes: "It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money."


Bye bye judge Lester, you idiot.

If he doesn't recuse himself and Zimmerman is convicted, the case will be tossed on appeal.
 
2012-07-14 12:20:37 PM  

DancingElkCondor: I do not want to see an innocent man lynched by a bunch of liars, regardless


i don't either but he farked up when he followed the kid. especially after the cops told him not to. after that all the "stand your ground" self defense stuff is moot.

zimmerman is a cop wannabe toting a gun in a situation where is wasn't proper. he compounded that by a series of mistakes that left a kid dead. he deserves jail and for a long time.
 
2012-07-14 12:20:44 PM  

Thrag: The results of uninformed idiots seeking anything they can cling to to confirm their biases.
There is a slang expression "skittles" for a a certain type of OTC pill that people sometimes use for recreational purposes. The pills are small and brightly colored like skittles. Somehow people seeking anything to make the victim in this case have misunderstood that the drug reference "skittles" is not actually a reference to the candy and they seem to think that the candy skittles is part of a drug cocktail. Using this misunderstanding (and an apparently faked screenshot of a facebook conversation) they are trying to make it seem that carrying skittles and a watermelon flavored drink is evidence that the kid was a drug crazed lunatic who needed to be put down.


To avoid weird inferences like this, I call all my drugs "tampons." Not only do people not pick up on it, they don't even like to say the word. I have such a hoard of tampons right now, I'm about to start passing them out like Skittles.
 
2012-07-14 12:23:41 PM  

Thrag: Tainted1: vegasj: Since the judge is allowing unnecessary evidence (like phone transcripts of him in jail) I wonder if he'll allow Zimmerman's lawyer to explain why Treyvon had Arizona Watermelon drink & Skittles....

The fark am a reading?

The results of uninformed idiots seeking anything they can cling to to confirm their biases.

There is a slang expression "skittles" for a a certain type of OTC pill that people sometimes use for recreational purposes. The pills are small and brightly colored like skittles. Somehow people seeking anything to make the victim in this case have misunderstood that the drug reference "skittles" is not actually a reference to the candy and they seem to think that the candy skittles is part of a drug cocktail. Using this misunderstanding (and an apparently faked screenshot of a facebook conversation) they are trying to make it seem that carrying skittles and a watermelon flavored drink is evidence that the kid was a drug crazed lunatic who needed to be put down.


I don't necessarily think that the whole 'purple drank" controversy is of great importance...but you could at least get your facts straight and not look like a total moran. What people are referring to is this (Wiki - Purple Drank) Common ingredients, other than those mentioned in the article, are Arizona drink products and Skittles.

I also haven't seen anything to indicate that the facebook conversation is fake...that doesn't mean it's real, but why automatically assume that it isn't?
 
2012-07-14 12:25:13 PM  

Amos Quito: From a previous article: "Judge Lester writes: "It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money."


Bye bye judge Lester, you idiot.

If he doesn't recuse himself and Zimmerman is convicted, the case will be tossed on appeal.


Um, what about the judge's statement is not accurate. The wife lied to the court about the money. The two of them conspired to hold on to a valid passport and to hide the money. It is, as the judge said, entirely reasonable to suspect they might have fled using the concealed passport and taking the donated money.

What is your exact problem with that statement? Are you going to focus on the semantic argument that is wasn't "other people's money" once it was donated? Okay, but that doesn't really change a thing. The two idiots still spoke over a jailhouse phone about money and a passport they had hidden from the court.
 
2012-07-14 12:27:05 PM  

astouffer: steamingpile: But in the court of public opinion most of the antigun crowd has already convicted him, I definitely think they are biased against him and will let evidence in they normally wouldn't just to get a conviction in an election year.

I am pro gun but also think Zimmerman is a douchebag who couldn't make police academy so he became the self appointed gun carrying neighborhood watch. The gun he carried was also issued in error because of a previous conviction against him.

The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.


1. All charges were dropped. So, not sure where you're going with the gun permit thing...
2. 911 didn't tell him to do anything...and even if they were to do so, it carries no more weight than you or I telling him to do something. Also, they didn't "tell" him to stay in the car. They said "we don't need you to do that" when he was running, and he said OK and stopped running.
3. If Trayvon hadn't gone to the store that night this would have ended peacefully....see how silly that line of reasoning is?

Other than those three things, good effort.
 
2012-07-14 12:28:27 PM  

Cataholic: consider this: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Mrbogey: Citation needed.

Still claiming Martin jumped him from behind when we have an affadavit that says Zimmerman confronted Martin first.

Oh, and lying to the judge. That really helps his credibility there.

There is no evidence that GZ confronted TM. The only statement that mentions how the confrontation started is from GZ and he says that it was TM who initiated.

The prosecution also admitted in the probable cause hearing that there was no evidence as to who initiated the confrontation.

That certainly doesn't fit the narrative.


What narrative? All we have is speculation on how everything went down prior to TM being seen on top of GZ by an eyewitness.
 
2012-07-14 12:28:49 PM  

Amos Quito: From a previous article: "Judge Lester writes: "It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money."


Bye bye judge Lester, you idiot.

If he doesn't recuse himself and Zimmerman is convicted, the case will be tossed on appeal.


why else were they hiding the money and the passport? part of a courts mission is to make conclusions based on evidence. the evidence is that he was hiding money. actively moving it around in small amounts to avoid detection,talking in "code" about it to his wife to avoid detection by the authorities and not disclosing that he had another passport. now I ask you. would the judge be doing his job if he just dismissed all that evidence in making his determination on raising the bail amount? or should have have just raised it with no explanation of the obvious reasons for doing so? you lie to the judge,you hide stuff from the judge and then cry foul when they hold it against you?
 
2012-07-14 12:29:29 PM  

Curious: DancingElkCondor: I do not want to see an innocent man lynched by a bunch of liars, regardless

i don't either but he farked up when he followed the kid. especially after the cops told him not to. after that all the "stand your ground" self defense stuff is moot.

zimmerman is a cop wannabe toting a gun in a situation where is wasn't proper. he compounded that by a series of mistakes that left a kid dead. he deserves jail and for a long time.


1. It's not illegal to watch someone from a distance on public property, even if you have to momentarily jog to regain sight of them around the corner of a building.
2. The "cops" didn't tell him to do anything. A civilian asked / suggested that he do something.
3. None of that impacts SYG whatsoever.
4. It's not proper to carry a gun to the store?
 
2012-07-14 12:30:43 PM  

Grables'Daughter: DancingElkCondor: And, this should tell everyone how Black Racist/White Guilt the media and TM supporters have been: They are so "Politically Correct".....they cannot admit that Tray had an Arizona WATERMELON drink...not an iced tea

I am confused.

I don't see how the kind of drink he had would be at all relevant, or why anyone would try to change what type of drink he had.

What am I missing, please?


Rimmer J. Piehole is alluding to Trayvon doing the lean, aka, codeine flavored kool-aid. What would that have to do with Trayvon getting shot by the overzealous neighborhood not neighborhood watchmen Zimmerman? Zimmerman was on some heavy meds that evening, and he still is.

Active Medications.•
Date !Drug & Dosage Qty ISIG Refill Note
02127/2012 Iodine 400 mg tablet 60 1 tablet PO BID Oprn pain
02i13/2012 ladderall 20 mg tablet 60 1 1ablet PO BID OWritten Rx Given
P1123t2012 ,emazepam 30 mg capsule 90 1 capsule (hard, soft, 0
~tc.)PO HS
P1123/2012 ~m eprazole dr 40 mg 30 1 capsule,delayed release 3?RN
!Capsule lienteric coated) PO Daily
12/29/2011 ~lbrax 90 1 capsule (hard, soft, 3
leto.) PO TID
Act Iv e M e dlc at ons- P re-E x I s tl ng:
Drug & Dosage $tG
pvs alucosamine chondroitin tb 1 tablet PO Daily
multiple vitamin tablet 1 tablet PO Daily
omeprazole dr 40 m g capsule 1 capsute,delaved release (enteric coated) PO DaUv
emazepam 30 mg capsule 1 capsule (hard, soft, etc.) PO HS

*On page 181, in the Discovery documents, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN reported to EMT /Paramedic Michael Brandy that he's prescribed Librax and Tamazepam (sp)
 
2012-07-14 12:31:12 PM  

Thrag: Amos Quito: From a previous article: "Judge Lester writes: "It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money."


Bye bye judge Lester, you idiot.

If he doesn't recuse himself and Zimmerman is convicted, the case will be tossed on appeal.

Um, what about the judge's statement is not accurate. The wife lied to the court about the money. The two of them conspired to hold on to a valid passport and to hide the money. It is, as the judge said, entirely reasonable to suspect they might have fled using the concealed passport and taking the donated money.

What is your exact problem with that statement? Are you going to focus on the semantic argument that is wasn't "other people's money" once it was donated? Okay, but that doesn't really change a thing. The two idiots still spoke over a jailhouse phone about money and a passport they had hidden from the court.



The idiot judge blatanly showed his bias against Zimmerman by saying that were it not "for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring" Zimm and spouse WOULD HAVE FLED the US.

If he is SUCH a flight risk, why did Lester proceed to release him on bail - again?
 
2012-07-14 12:32:14 PM  

Silly Jesus: I don't necessarily think that the whole 'purple drank" controversy is of great importance...but you could at least get your facts straight and not look like a total moran. What people are referring to is this (Wiki - Purple Drank) Common ingredients, other than those mentioned in the article, are Arizona drink products and Skittles.


I love this. In an attempt to make your statements seem legit you link to a wiki page that doesn't in any way say what you are claiming, and they you just add your own info that wasn't on the page as if just linking to the page before saying it somehow makes it legit. The "get your facts straight" bluster is really the icing on your fail cake.

What I said is completely accurate. "Skittles" is a slang term for a type of cold pill. Some idiot heard "skittles" in reference to drugs and though it was the candy and concocted this theory that Martin possessing the candy means he was on drugs.

I also haven't seen anything to indicate that the facebook conversation is fake...that doesn't mean it's real, but why automatically assume that it isn't?

Because it only showed up weeks after Martin's facebook account was deleted and it made its first appearance on crazy blogs pushing this theory that having watermelon juice and skittles on one's person is somehow evidence of long term drug abuse. What makes you think it's real? That is confirms your biases? Is there any evidence at all that it is real? You do know how easy it is to fake a screenshot don't you?
 
2012-07-14 12:34:49 PM  

astouffer: The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.


Bears repeating.
 
2012-07-14 12:36:51 PM  

bugontherug: Raharu: derp... What Makes the current judge NOT impartial?

This remark makes me confident that one of two propositions must be true:

1) you are trolling, or
2) you are a lobotomy patient.

In this context, the onus is clearly on Zimmerman and his supporters to establish that the judge is impartial. That he made findings of fact and conclusions of law you don't like isn't evidence for that proposition.


I do believe I misread your post, sir. I apologize.
 
2012-07-14 12:38:44 PM  

Silly Jesus: Curious: DancingElkCondor: I do not want to see an innocent man lynched by a bunch of liars, regardless

i don't either but he farked up when he followed the kid. especially after the cops told him not to. after that all the "stand your ground" self defense stuff is moot.

zimmerman is a cop wannabe toting a gun in a situation where is wasn't proper. he compounded that by a series of mistakes that left a kid dead. he deserves jail and for a long time.

1. It's not illegal to watch someone from a distance on public property, even if you have to momentarily jog to regain sight of them around the corner of a building.
2. The "cops" didn't tell him to do anything. A civilian asked / suggested that he do something.
3. None of that impacts SYG whatsoever.
4. It's not proper to carry a gun to the store?


vigilantism is illegal
 
2012-07-14 12:38:56 PM  

Amos Quito: If he is SUCH a flight risk, why did Lester proceed to release him on bail - again?


1) because it had been demonstrated that electronic monitoring could thwart his attempt to flee, and

2) the increased bail would likewise deter an attempt to flee.

The judge making findings of fact that you don't like does not make the judge "partial." Sorry.
 
2012-07-14 12:40:53 PM  

Amos Quito: Thrag: Amos Quito: From a previous article: "Judge Lester writes: "It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money."


Bye bye judge Lester, you idiot.

If he doesn't recuse himself and Zimmerman is convicted, the case will be tossed on appeal.

Um, what about the judge's statement is not accurate. The wife lied to the court about the money. The two of them conspired to hold on to a valid passport and to hide the money. It is, as the judge said, entirely reasonable to suspect they might have fled using the concealed passport and taking the donated money.

What is your exact problem with that statement? Are you going to focus on the semantic argument that is wasn't "other people's money" once it was donated? Okay, but that doesn't really change a thing. The two idiots still spoke over a jailhouse phone about money and a passport they had hidden from the court.


The idiot judge blatanly showed his bias against Zimmerman by saying that were it not "for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring" Zimm and spouse WOULD HAVE FLED the US.

If he is SUCH a flight risk, why did Lester proceed to release him on bail - again?


The judge had to offer bail, by Florida law. The judge covered all of this in his order. He told Zimmerman, he didn't break his bail because he wasn't released on bail when the discretions were committed, and by Florida law, he was compelled to offer a bail amount. He wouldn't have done it otherwise, because Mr. Zimmerman was not trustworthy.
 
2012-07-14 12:40:58 PM  

Hobodeluxe: the evidence is that he was hiding money. actively moving it around in small amounts to avoid detection,


Which, by the way, if this was accurately reported, is a federal crime in and of itself. Transaction structuring to avoid reporting requirements is a federal crime.
 
2012-07-14 12:41:31 PM  

Amos Quito: The idiot judge blatanly showed his bias against Zimmerman by saying that were it not "for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring" Zimm and spouse WOULD HAVE FLED the US.


Yes, it is entirely reasonable to believe they may have done that. When someone conceals a second passport and talks to their wife in code about it and the money they are hiding from the court it is hardly an unreasonable leap of logic to conclude they would have fled. This is a totally appropriate and typical thing for a judge to say in a bail hearing under circumstances like this. Why do you think his statements are even unusual?

If he is SUCH a flight risk, why did Lester proceed to release him on bail - again?

Because he believes the new bail and bail requirements are enough to make fleeing impractical. He no longer has a passport, he is being monitored, and due to the increased bail they no longer have the financial resources to flee.

This line, that by noting that the Zimmerman's were concealing money and a passport form the court and in response increasing his bail the judge is somehow biased, is really beyond ridiculous.
 
2012-07-14 12:41:43 PM  

DancingElkCondor: this case has turned 360 in favor of Zimmerman


Obviously, you're not a skater.
 
2012-07-14 12:42:32 PM  

missiv: The judge had to offer bail, by Florida law. The judge covered all of this in his order. He told Zimmerman, he didn't break his bail because he wasn't released on bail when the discretions were committed, and by Florida law, he was compelled to offer a bail amount. He wouldn't have done it otherwise, because Mr. Zimmerman was not trustworthy


Thanks for the info.
 
2012-07-14 12:42:52 PM  

Grables'Daughter: chewielouie: Yes, Zimmerman is a dumbass but the judge has made some comments that would make anyone feel they would not be able to get a fair trial in front of him. The judge's colorful commentary regarding the bond hearing simply wasn't necessary. Some people just can't keep their mouths shut, and even judge's make stupid decisions. He should recuse himself, and if he doesn't, Zimmerman's lawyer will no doubt appeal.

What did the judge say?


He said "You failed to tell me about a second passport and an additional $130,000. That looks to me like you're a flight risk. I'm re-setting your bond at $1,000,000 to ensure you show up. Flouting the system like that is frowned upon by my court."

Zimmerman obviously found that biased.
 
2012-07-14 12:47:09 PM  
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2012-07-14 12:48:29 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: astouffer: The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.

Bears repeating.


The bottom line of what? It's not illegal to get out of your car.
 
2012-07-14 12:50:54 PM  

Thrag: Silly Jesus: I don't necessarily think that the whole 'purple drank" controversy is of great importance...but you could at least get your facts straight and not look like a total moran. What people are referring to is this (Wiki - Purple Drank) Common ingredients, other than those mentioned in the article, are Arizona drink products and Skittles.

I love this. In an attempt to make your statements seem legit you link to a wiki page that doesn't in any way say what you are claiming, and they you just add your own info that wasn't on the page as if just linking to the page before saying it somehow makes it legit. The "get your facts straight" bluster is really the icing on your fail cake.

What I said is completely accurate. "Skittles" is a slang term for a type of cold pill. Some idiot heard "skittles" in reference to drugs and though it was the candy and concocted this theory that Martin possessing the candy means he was on drugs.

I also haven't seen anything to indicate that the facebook conversation is fake...that doesn't mean it's real, but why automatically assume that it isn't?

Because it only showed up weeks after Martin's facebook account was deleted and it made its first appearance on crazy blogs pushing this theory that having watermelon juice and skittles on one's person is somehow evidence of long term drug abuse. What makes you think it's real? That is confirms your biases? Is there any evidence at all that it is real? You do know how easy it is to fake a screenshot don't you?


My point about the drink and your skittles theory was that what you are talking about is not at all what people are referring to. You are off on a completely separate tangent / straw man. People are talking about "lean." Not some pill code named "skittles." And I wasn't trying to amend wiki to be misleading, I was merely pointing out why people are coming to that conclusion...it's a sugary drink (sprite / Arizona / etc.) mixed with a sugary colorful candy (jolly rancher / skittles / etc.). That's all that I was trying to say.

Valid point on the facebook thing...I'm skeptical, but not quite "it's OBVIOUSLY fake."
 
2012-07-14 12:51:42 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The My Little Pony Killer: astouffer: The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.

Bears repeating.

The bottom line of what? It's not illegal to get out of your car.


No, but starting a fight with someone conducting lawful business in a place he has a right to be while carrying a loaded firearm does evince a depraved indifference to the value of human life, because you know in doing so you're putting his life in danger.
 
2012-07-14 12:52:38 PM  

bugontherug: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The My Little Pony Killer: astouffer: The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.

Bears repeating.

The bottom line of what? It's not illegal to get out of your car.

No, but starting a fight with someone conducting lawful business in a place he has a right to be while you're carrying a loaded firearm does evince a depraved indifference to the value of human life, because you know in doing so you're putting his life in danger.


Pardon me. Man, I'm off today.
 
2012-07-14 12:53:35 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Silly Jesus: Curious: DancingElkCondor: I do not want to see an innocent man lynched by a bunch of liars, regardless

i don't either but he farked up when he followed the kid. especially after the cops told him not to. after that all the "stand your ground" self defense stuff is moot.

zimmerman is a cop wannabe toting a gun in a situation where is wasn't proper. he compounded that by a series of mistakes that left a kid dead. he deserves jail and for a long time.

1. It's not illegal to watch someone from a distance on public property, even if you have to momentarily jog to regain sight of them around the corner of a building.
2. The "cops" didn't tell him to do anything. A civilian asked / suggested that he do something.
3. None of that impacts SYG whatsoever.
4. It's not proper to carry a gun to the store?

vigilantism is illegal


Correct, you can't assault and attempt to kill someone because you don't like them looking at you in public, you should call the police first.
 
2012-07-14 12:53:40 PM  

Grables'Daughter: DancingElkCondor: And, this should tell everyone how Black Racist/White Guilt the media and TM supporters have been: They are so "Politically Correct".....they cannot admit that Tray had an Arizona WATERMELON drink...not an iced tea

I am confused.

I don't see how the kind of drink he had would be at all relevant, or why anyone would try to change what type of drink he had.

What am I missing, please?


Apparently the blacks only buy Arizona iced tea to mix with Robitussin. At least according to not at all bigoted vegasj and not at all an alt Dancing Elk Condor
 
2012-07-14 12:57:34 PM  
Zimmerman had a hammer and went looking for a nail.
 
2012-07-14 12:57:38 PM  

bugontherug: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The My Little Pony Killer: astouffer: The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.

Bears repeating.

The bottom line of what? It's not illegal to get out of your car.

No, but starting a fight with someone conducting lawful business in a place he has a right to be while carrying a loaded firearm does evince a depraved indifference to the value of human life, because you know in doing so you're putting his life in danger.


Even the prosecution has admitted, under oath, that they don't know who started the fight. It sounds like you have some pretty important evidence that you need to make them aware of.
 
2012-07-14 12:58:08 PM  

cretinbob: I think the judge has been quite fair with Zimmerman and is making sure he goes through the process just like everyone else.


That's the point. He has tried to play the system at every turn. He feels he shouldn't have to go through the process like everyone else, and that treating him like a normal person -IS- discriminatory and degrading to him.
 
2012-07-14 12:59:03 PM  

bugontherug: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The My Little Pony Killer: astouffer: The bottom line is had Zimmerman stayed in his car like 911 told him to and waited for actual police to show up this would have ended peacefully.

Bears repeating.

The bottom line of what? It's not illegal to get out of your car.

No, but starting a fight with someone conducting lawful business in a place he has a right to be while carrying a loaded firearm does evince a depraved indifference to the value of human life, because you know in doing so you're putting his life in danger.


Especially after you've already called the police for help and then choose to IGNORE the advice given to you. The dispatchers aren't there to sound pretty. They work far more closely with the police that Zimmerman ever could. If the situation warrants calling them, then the situation also warrants LISTENING to anything they might have to say to you.
 
2012-07-14 01:04:08 PM  

Silly Jesus: My point about the drink and your skittles theory was that what you are talking about is not at all what people are referring to. You are off on a completely separate tangent / straw man.


It's not a tangent or a straw man. It is part of the origin of this idiotic line of attack on the dead kid. A few weeks ago when this crap came up the first idiotic blog on it that linked to as evidence of their claims talked about how "skittles" was a drug reference and that it refers to "purple drank" specially made form watermelon drink flavored with the skittles candy. That was not correct as the term "skittles" refers to a type of pill. This was pretty much one of the the lynchpins of their theory since it was based on the notion that skittles and Arizona watermelon drink was the preferred mixture, and thus having those specific items means one must be on drugs.

Anyway, it's an extra retarded theory since if Martin's intention was to make "purple drank" it would seem he forgot the most important ingredient in the store. All of this is just a pathetic attempt to smear the victim.
 
2012-07-14 01:05:12 PM  

CliChe Guevara: cretinbob: I think the judge has been quite fair with Zimmerman and is making sure he goes through the process just like everyone else.

That's the point. He has tried to play the system at every turn. He feels he shouldn't have to go through the process like everyone else, and that treating him like a normal person -IS- discriminatory and degrading to him.


Like everyone else? Everyone else has a perjured affidavit filed against them by an overzealous and politically / racially motivated prosecutor after a mob overrules the initial ruling of the DA? He hasn't been treated like a normal person since this whole mess began.
 
2012-07-14 01:07:52 PM  

CliChe Guevara: That's the point. He has tried to play the system at every turn. He feels he shouldn't have to go through the process like everyone else, and that treating him like a normal person -IS- discriminatory and degrading to him.


I think his dad being a judge made him think he had more pull than he did.
 
2012-07-14 01:09:01 PM  

Thrag: Silly Jesus: My point about the drink and your skittles theory was that what you are talking about is not at all what people are referring to. You are off on a completely separate tangent / straw man.

It's not a tangent or a straw man. It is part of the origin of this idiotic line of attack on the dead kid. A few weeks ago when this crap came up the first idiotic blog on it that linked to as evidence of their claims talked about how "skittles" was a drug reference and that it refers to "purple drank" specially made form watermelon drink flavored with the skittles candy. That was not correct as the term "skittles" refers to a type of pill. This was pretty much one of the the lynchpins of their theory since it was based on the notion that skittles and Arizona watermelon drink was the preferred mixture, and thus having those specific items means one must be on drugs.

Anyway, it's an extra retarded theory since if Martin's intention was to make "purple drank" it would seem he forgot the most important ingredient in the store. All of this is just a pathetic attempt to smear the victim.


OK, fair enough. I've heard / seen people bring up "lean" and "purple drank" etc. over and over again, and all that is ever mentioned is a liquid concoction of a sugary drink, sugary candy and cough syrup...I've never once heard of what you're talking about in any of the hundreds of posts in these threads.

As to your point about him not getting the main ingredient at the store...the 7/11 typically doesn't sell prescription grade cough syrup.
 
2012-07-14 01:09:34 PM  
What exactly is the point of the alts at the top of the thread? Is it that important to these people to have validation, even if it's nothing more than a false mockery?
 
2012-07-14 01:09:43 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Mrbogey: Citation needed.

Still claiming Martin jumped him from behind when we have an affadavit that says Zimmerman confronted Martin first.

Oh, and lying to the judge. That really helps his credibility there.


HeartlineTwist: Oh, the statement involving where Martin's body was/where the fight occurred was in comparison to where the body was actually found.

Or Zimmerman having a left handed holster on the wrong side of his body and drawing it with his right hand per his re-enactment. (In other words, had Zimmerman drawn his gun from a left handed holster that was on his right side with his right hand like he did, the gun would have been upside down when he fired it.


Citation defined:
2.
a : an act of quoting; especially : the citing of a previously settled case at law
b : excerpt, quotation

You stated an argument. You did not cite the information that supports your assertion. What you did was akin to me asking for a citation for the assertion that Obama isn't a US citizen and you replying back "because he wasn't born in the US!"

Now, please try again, cite the evidence that his story has changed or inconsistencies in his story.
 
2012-07-14 01:12:57 PM  

vegasj: Since the judge is allowing unnecessary evidence (like phone transcripts of him in jail) I wonder if he'll allow Zimmerman's lawyer to explain why Treyvon had Arizona Watermelon drink & Skittles....


He's not allowing unnecessary 'evidence', it's 'discovery' and under FL Sunshine Laws, it has to be released to the public, just like Casey Anthony's jail conversations were. Doesn't mean it will be admitted into trial evidence, two different things.
 
2012-07-14 01:13:11 PM  

Silly Jesus: As to your point about him not getting the main ingredient at the store...the 7/11 typically doesn't sell prescription grade cough syrup.


So you are telling me that not only did he not have the main ingredient but he wouldn't even have had access to it? Well, thanks for pointing out again how completely idiotic it is to claim that having juice and candy is proof that they are a chronic drug abuser.
 
2012-07-14 01:13:39 PM  

CliChe Guevara: cretinbob: I think the judge has been quite fair with Zimmerman and is making sure he goes through the process just like everyone else.

That's the point. He has tried to play the system at every turn. He feels he shouldn't have to go through the process like everyone else, and that treating him like a normal person -IS- discriminatory and degrading to him.


Everyone else never would have had charges filed against them, because George did nothing but defend himself against a gangster thug. Then the media stepped in, lied blatantly, President stepped in, every other racist liberal in the country.

See if you like it when some black dude is railroaded for something he clearly did not do....

You guys are really sick. Hitler could have used you guys.
 
2012-07-14 01:13:43 PM  

Mugato: CliChe Guevara: That's the point. He has tried to play the system at every turn. He feels he shouldn't have to go through the process like everyone else, and that treating him like a normal person -IS- discriminatory and degrading to him.

I think his dad being a judge made him think he had more pull than he did.


His dad was a retired, low level (Magistrate = Traffic Court, basically) "judicial officer" (he wasn't even technically called a judge, according to the spokesperson for the Virginia courts) from two states away. Not quite the powerful ally that people would have you believe. Hell, I'm almost certain that that level of judge doesn't even need a college degree, much less a law degree.
 
2012-07-14 01:15:14 PM  

Silly Jesus: His dad was a retired, low level (Magistrate = Traffic Court, basically) "judicial officer" (he wasn't even technically called a judge, according to the spokesperson for the Virginia courts) from two states away. Not quite the powerful ally that people would have you believe. Hell, I'm almost certain that that level of judge doesn't even need a college degree, much less a law degree.


Well I didn't claim it was a well reasoned line of thinking.
 
2012-07-14 01:16:46 PM  
There are a lot of poor people in this thread. If you don't know why it looks like there are a lot of poor people in this thread, that's because you're poor.
 
2012-07-14 01:17:17 PM  

Thunderpipes: George Trayvon did nothing but defend himself against a gangster thug.


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