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2012-07-13 08:28:52 PM
I really like their men's colognes. well, crap...
 
2012-07-13 09:29:49 PM
To run a successful pyramid scheme, or multi-level marketing company, you need to be based in Utah.
 
2012-07-13 10:17:01 PM
www.mobygames.com

Does not approve
 
2012-07-13 10:36:07 PM
This is bad news for my coworker who sells it to me. Given the state of the economy, I can't imagine how well Avon/Tupperware/NuSkin or whatever other MLMs are out there are doing financially.
 
2012-07-13 10:42:20 PM
Its called a network level marketing right? Close to a cult in some cases. I went to a one of these business "conferences" Seems people who sign up are required to attend ever meeting and listen to CD regarding are the time about how great the company is.
 
2012-07-13 11:06:38 PM
What about Stringer?
 
2012-07-13 11:39:44 PM
I've never understood how these businesses work. I guess in a rural area, it might beat going to the store. But now with the Internet, isn't it easier to just order stuff on-line?
 
2012-07-13 11:40:22 PM

Greenbeanx: Its called a network level marketing right? Close to a cult in some cases. I went to a one of these business "conferences" Seems people who sign up are required to attend ever meeting and listen to CD regarding are the time about how great the company is.


Avon not so much. I sell, and have a pretty small but consistent group of customers - I do a little better than break even, but I also don't put a psychotic amount of effort into it, and I enjoy it. (About 80% of my customers just order online and have their stuff shipped straight to them, so that makes it even easier for me.) I hit the occasional local sales meeting and they're pretty low-key. Mainly intros on new things coming out and you get to have some snacks and socialize and get some free samples. The regional sales meetings are a little more...intense, but no one corners you and wants to know why you haven't brought in more people or anything like that. Just a lot of bells and whistles and "wooo, new stuff!!" presentations. Never been pressured to recruit downline - if you want to, go for it, if not, then don't.
 
2012-07-13 11:43:02 PM

JohnAnnArbor: I've never understood how these businesses work. I guess in a rural area, it might beat going to the store. But now with the Internet, isn't it easier to just order stuff on-line?


Avon *finally* got with the program and started online ordering a while back. If you don't have a rep, you just choose one from your general area and order. Ships in a couple days, the rep gets credit for the sale, and you don't have to deal with being available for a delivery on a particular day, or constrained to the two week ordering cycle when using a rep for in person ordering. Much easier for everyone.
 
2012-07-13 11:54:58 PM
I've heard that the new emerging market for these types of businesses is China. According to an NPR report I heard about three years ago, AmWay was set to explode over there because people could essentially guilt-trip their entire family into buying product.
 
2012-07-14 12:20:24 AM

UNC_Samurai: I've heard that the new emerging market for these types of businesses is China. According to an NPR report I heard about three years ago, AmWay was set to explode over there because people could essentially guilt-trip their entire family into buying product.


Amway is economic Scientology.
 
2012-07-14 01:10:39 AM

LarryDan43: To run a successful pyramid scheme, or multi-level marketing company, you need to be based in Utah.


This.

MLM/ Utah = Porn/San Fernando Valley = Cocaine/Miami
 
2012-07-14 01:12:54 AM

Galileo's Daughter: This is bad news for my coworker who sells it to me. Given the state of the economy, I can't imagine how well Avon/Tupperware/NuSkin or whatever other MLMs are out there are doing financially.


Some of them are doing better. In addition to the endless supply of stupid and greedy people, this economy has generated a just-as-endless supply of desperate people.
 
2012-07-14 01:38:08 AM
But where will I get a pink caddy now?
 
2012-07-14 03:33:20 AM

Kyoki: I really like their men's colognes. well, crap...

s.ecrater.com

I liked these too.
 
2012-07-14 05:07:03 AM
Is it just my adblockers or does the link go to a page with nothing about avon?
 
2012-07-14 05:17:42 AM

Kurmudgeon: Kyoki: I really like their men's colognes. well, crap...
[s.ecrater.com image 300x300]

I liked these too.


Wow, I had forgotten those. I don't even remember the aftershaves scent.

This is what I'll miss if they tank:

fimgs.net
 
2012-07-14 07:09:47 AM
Slightly CSB:

A friend of ours calls my girlfriend and says she has this business opportunity, curious she agrees to meet her for lunch. I immediately know it i some MLM thing but tell her to go anyway out of morbid curiosity.

Well, turns out it wasn't meeting for lunch, but meeting WITH the girl's "boss" in an office somewhere. "What are your dreams?", "What goals do you have?", blah blah blah and so on. Justifiably pissed, my girlfriend loses patience very quickly as they start in on their spiel. After only a couple of questions she stops them, "You do realize I am an Apothecary (pharmacist that runs a pharmacy), and I make (insert large sum) a year at a pretty easy job. How much do you make busting your ass while pissing off all of your friends and family?"

They didn't have much to say after that. I think I might have strung them along a little and done the math to show how little they made for the amount of work they did. But I am a jerk that likes math.

/NuSkin
//Not actual quotes
 
2012-07-14 08:15:25 AM

zerkalo: But where will I get a pink caddy now?


That's Mary Kay.

I saw a new Mary Kay pink Cadillac a few weeks back. Amusing.
 
2012-07-14 09:13:43 AM
Avon's on the list. If you have stock in any of the other companies, dump now, or hold and and hope a good company buys them out.
 
2012-07-14 09:14:19 AM

Earguy: Avon's on the list. If you have stock in any of the other companies, dump now, or hold and and hope a good company buys them out.


Huh. Biatches at the Wall Street Journal won't let me link.
http://247wallst.com/2012/06/21/247-wall-st-10-brands-that-will-disap p ear-in-2013/2/
 
2012-07-14 11:20:02 AM
the best mlm and stick it to your friends and family company i heard of was in the tap water treatment scam business. the company hires you and then tells you to sell to everyone you put down on your application as references and past employers. the company did to the neighbor's kid who was 18 or 19 and slightly on tard mode. the poor kid thought he had his first job and the not wealthy family bought him some nice clothes too.
 
2012-07-14 12:23:46 PM

JohnAnnArbor: zerkalo: But where will I get a pink caddy now?

That's Mary Kay.

I saw a new Mary Kay pink Cadillac a few weeks back. Amusing.


This amuses me because the most recent Mary Kay car I saw was a black Mustang. Really nice, almost factory looking Mary Kay emblems on the lower part of the doors. Made me wonder if it was something like a Shelby, but for girls.
 
2012-07-14 02:15:30 PM

Beta Tested: They didn't have much to say after that. I think I might have strung them along a little and done the math to show how little they made for the amount of work they did. But I am a jerk that likes math.


We got invited to some neighbours for a "garden party" that turned out to be the woman pushing her MLM bath stuff (not Avon who are pretty reputable). Left once I realised it and never invited them to anything again.
 
2012-07-14 02:28:47 PM

farkeruk: We got invited to some neighbours for a "garden party" that turned out to be the woman pushing her MLM bath stuff (not Avon who are pretty reputable). Left once I realised it and never invited them to anything again.


Jeez. Deception is never a good way to get customers for any product. That's why I don't mind Pampered Chef parties - you know in advance what you're getting into, and it's basically a cooking demo with good food and, "Oh, yeah, we have kitchen gadgets if you want some."
 
2012-07-14 03:00:11 PM
i.imgur.com

Rejoices at the death of Skin-So-Soft.
 
2012-07-14 04:48:01 PM

UNC_Samurai: I've heard that the new emerging market for these types of businesses is China. According to an NPR report I heard about three years ago, AmWay was set to explode over there because people could essentially guilt-trip their entire family into buying product.


I had a Chinese coworker try to convince me to buy a bunch of bottles of some miracle vitamin juice drink. He had apparently bought A LOT of the stuff, and was trying to unload it. I could never figure out why; I wonder if he was guilted into it.
 
2012-07-14 09:15:35 PM

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: Does not approve


"The first rule of management is that you win. There is no second rule."
 
2012-07-14 09:40:21 PM
born_yesterday: I had a Chinese coworker try to convince me to buy a bunch of bottles of some miracle vitamin juice drink. He had apparently bought A LOT of the stuff, and was trying to unload it. I could never figure out why; I wonder if he was guilted into it.

That is the crux of the scam, when you join they make you buy a humongous "starter pack" for several hundred dollars (at least). That is how the company actually makes money, not off of actual customers.
 
2012-07-14 11:07:01 PM
Great, more Americans out of work.
 
2012-07-14 11:13:42 PM
The only way an MLM can survive is:

1. Must be based in Utah.
2. Must used Chinese forced labor to manufacture.
C. Fat, white, racist, homophobic, trailer park living, whores must love the product.
 
2012-07-14 11:58:39 PM
Q. Why does the Avon lady walk funny?

A. Because her lipstick.


/lips-stick
 
2012-07-15 01:15:02 AM
Spend first paragraph talking about completely unrelated company's current plight, profit?

Don't care.
 
2012-07-15 03:17:47 AM

wambu: [i.imgur.com image 431x500]

Rejoices at the death of Skin-So-Soft.


Lies! That stuff has never seemed to work on those buggers. In fact, I think it might actually attract them.
 
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