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(Vulture)   Hollywood zombie apocalypse: Brad Pitt won't even talk to his World War Z director anymore   (vulture.com) divider line 21
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2012-07-13 02:02:11 PM
3 votes:
Good. The entire project has FAIL written all over it.

/Should've been a series
2012-07-13 05:57:00 PM
2 votes:

give me doughnuts: "We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."


Pretty much.

Remember the old days when if you changed a movie from the source you renamed it... so as to avoid harsh comparisons with the original.

Apocalypse Now and Bladerunner are classic films and no one balks at how little they resemble the source. Why? Because the title doesn't suggest we should compare the two.
2012-07-13 04:14:47 PM
2 votes:
"We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."
2012-07-13 02:48:02 PM
2 votes:
Yep. Should have been one episode per chapter on TV instead of a movie. They're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Morons.
2012-07-14 04:40:38 PM
1 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: bill4935: I still can't understand the love for this book.

I didn't know ZeroCorpse had an alt.

/Kidding; obviously you're not ZeroCorpse
//Shocked he hasn't commented before now
///Loved the book, the movie looks worse than trash.


Ask and ye shall receive.

You all know my opinion: WWZ is an awful survival-porn book that takes a dump on the zombie genre. Kirkman's The Walking Dead is a far superior tale, as was Arrow/Caliber Comics' Dead World, and even though it's about vampires I'd say Matheson's I Am Legend is the how-to textbook on zombie tales. WWZ made the zombie genre accessible to the guys who read gun magazines and Maxim by dumbing it down, removing the real human elements, and turning the zombies into an invading force that could be battled and defeated in the name of Real Survivor Skillz. It's "Zombies For Tucker Max Fans".

The only thing I liked about WWZ was Mark Hamill's acting in the audio book.

The book, and the subsequent rush of survival porn enthusiasts who declared it the best thing ever, effectively ruined zombies for me... And I've been called ZeroCorpse since the early 80s for a reason. It is to zombies as Twilight is to vampires.

However, to each his own. If you enjoy it, then far be it from me to trod upon your daisy garden. What you like may not be to my liking, but you have every right to like it.

That said, I would like to thank you for spelling my name correctly, with the proper capitalization. I honestly appreciate it. Others could learn from your manners (i.e., if you're going to call me out or insult me, at least spell my name right.)

We do agree on one thing, though: The movie's going to be a mess. You can't turn what is essentially a bad documentary about surviving a zombie outbreak into a compelling movie. The book might be interesting as a mockumentary series if handled 100% seriously and given a sort of PBS vibe, but as an action movie it's a stupid idea that is destined to fail.

And having Brad Pitt as its major champion didn't help any. He's a good actor, but he's not very deep, subtle, or clever as far as I've ever seen. He's more style than substance in just about everything he does.
2012-07-14 09:57:11 AM
1 votes:
I knew this would end up being a flying Mongolian cluster fark. Its really a shame. They should have done it like Band of Brothers. 8-10 episodes and that's it. There is no way this book could be properly addressed in 2 hours
2012-07-14 09:54:12 AM
1 votes:
I still can't understand the love for this book.
2012-07-14 12:04:57 AM
1 votes:

Brian Blessed's Bastard Boy: Coelacanth: Brian Blessed's Bastard Boy: Another example I'd add to your list, and I'll probably be killed for this: The Lord of the Rings movies.

That was Tom Bombadil's fault Link

Thank God I'm already drunk, because that shiat just made me want to stick a screwdriver in my ears.


I think it's actually good, but that's besides the point.

Tom Bombadil is a complete and total mystery. IMHO, he might be a stand-in for a Christian God that's all-powerful, but totally oblivious to our pleas for help.
2012-07-13 11:22:53 PM
1 votes:

madgonad: I can think of only one example in which the movie is almost identical, word for word, with the book.


Rosemary's Baby.
2012-07-13 09:44:05 PM
1 votes:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Erik_Emune: madgonad: That is a common complaint, but remember that they were just following the infantry. You do see some air-power, but nothing equivalent to armour. My cousin came back from Afghanistan with pictures of his 'forward base' and it was essentially the base on Planet P - gun turrets, walls, and all. War really doesn't change that much when you talk about boots on the ground.

The infantry tactics used in the movie were suicidally incompetent, and that's a problem when the movie claims to depict a bunch of kick-ass troopers. Sure, some would say it's irrelevant to the overall message, but it isn't. Moby Dick doesn't work as anything if he doesn't work as a whale. Likewise, depicting a dystopic militaristic society is damn hard to do if you can't convincingly depict a military of sorts.

Oh no, it's quite the reverse. It's much easier to have a dystopic militaristic society if your military is incompetent. If your military kicks butt, you can have a small professional military, you don't need lying recruitng posters, etc. If it's mostly lard-butts and greenies it becomes a huge parasitic structure that requires the entire country to survive. For God's sake, they were nuking civillians in the book. Pretty easy to see how they'd keep the populace in line. And if only veterans can vote? How many people were actually joining this military to fight, instead of to get voting rights and get their share of the lard?


I always thought Harrison that with,
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Funny as shiat, too.
2012-07-13 09:09:09 PM
1 votes:

skinink: I don't mind so much if the movie deviates a lot from the book, like "The Shining" with Nicholson was a lot different from the book, as long as the movie is good. But The movie version of WWZ sounds like it's really gonna suck, which is too bad because the book is so good and there's so many things they can build the movie on.
I imagine the movie will be bad enough that they will eventually release it during the "dead zone" for bad movies, the month or so before the Academy Awards show. And the movie will bomb.


Nah. The unwashed masses will love it. You will be pissed off.

:]
2012-07-13 08:08:15 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: BalugaJoe: give me doughnuts: "We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."

The Jason Bourne movies did this.

The Bourne movies were crap?


Anything that isn't a note for note recreation of the books are crap. Derp!

/ Book snobs are always pretentious twits.
2012-07-13 07:36:22 PM
1 votes:

talkertopc: FTA:Things got so bad that when Forster had notes on a scene for Pitt, they had to be relayed through an intermediary - and vice versa.

Wow, feel the maturity.


I overheard the Stage Manager on a production I was in say to one of her crew, "We could do this whole thing so much more easily if we could just get rid of the damn actors."
2012-07-13 06:53:59 PM
1 votes:
Make it a mini-series and go the narrator route.

10 years later the writer is commissioned by the governing bodies of whats left of the world to collect accounts of events that took place.

All scenes are flashbacks. Game, Set, Match.

I am Legend sucked diseased donkey balls compared to its source material.
2012-07-13 06:47:08 PM
1 votes:

carnifex2005:
I, Robot and Starship Troopers were good movies though.


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2012-07-13 06:16:11 PM
1 votes:
Damn, thought Mark Hamil should have been in it.


If you didn't know, the audio book is incredible and has some damn fine voice acting including hamil, henry rollins, and john tutorro. great for road trips at night.
2012-07-13 06:12:07 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: Jumpin Jbot: give me doughnuts: "We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."

Did somebody just say I, Robot?

Still more relevant to the book than Starship Troopers.


The book would have sucked if it was made directly into a movie. Johnny was a pansy that was afraid of girls and the opening scene had Johnny's platoon nuking cities filled with civilian Skinnies as a warning not to get involved in the Arachnid war. Seriously, I love Heinlein's work, but ST is really a mess. Verhoeven did a fine job of adapting it into something that was similar, but different enough to enjoy. Everyone is just mad that there weren't any mechs. ST3 had the mechs in it and it was one of the worst movies I have ever seen.
2012-07-13 06:08:56 PM
1 votes:

sprawl15: Jumpin Jbot: give me doughnuts: "We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."

Did somebody just say I, Robot?

Still more relevant to the book than Starship Troopers.


I, Robot and Starship Troopers were good movies though. WW Z looks like it will be a massive failure.
2012-07-13 06:05:33 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Yep. Should have been one episode per chapter on TV instead of a movie. They're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Morons.


That wouldn't work out either. Most of the segments couldn't fill a half-hour slot and many of them are relatively flat without character development. While the downed pilot, patient zero, or the blind man in Tokyo are miniature stand-alone stories, most of the segments are very discrete instances to provide depth. Camping the Canada, decimations in Russia, floating around in the Pacific... if somebody tuned in and watched one of those they would never watch another episode again.

Now a mini-series I could go with. 240 minutes of content could cover almost all of the bases. However, do you stick with the books narration - an journalist trying to put it all together after the fact? It could work. Kind of like the break-aways in The Princess Bride. Obviously we now know that they are going to have the 'writer' actually live through every scene. Not sure how that will work since many of the subplots depend on character being alone at the time of the action.

I'll reserve judgement until I see it.
2012-07-13 05:59:02 PM
1 votes:

Jumpin Jbot: give me doughnuts: "We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."

Did somebody just say I, Robot?


Or a more recent example:

Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter

The movie bastardized the book. It would've been ok had I not read the book beforehand and know everything they chopped up/intentionally left out
2012-07-13 05:55:44 PM
1 votes:

give me doughnuts: "We like the title. We're just going to scrap everything else, and film two hours of crap."


Did somebody just say I, Robot?
 
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