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(WorldNetDaily)   WWJD? Well to start off, he'd convert from the prosperity gospel to Islam   (wnd.com) divider line 107
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2012-07-13 11:28:43 AM
The Prosperity Gospel stuff is one of the greatest scams in the modern history of Christianity. I gotta get in on that.
 
2012-07-13 11:31:56 AM
I'm pretty sure that Jesus was Jewish, so I doubt he'd have much converting to do.
 
2012-07-13 11:34:56 AM
The prosperity gospel is nothing more than capitalism turned into a religion with a faux "Christian" veneer to attract the rubes.
 
2012-07-13 11:37:49 AM
No, Jesus was not a Muslim. That doesn't make any sense, even if you take Muslim to mean "a social justice movement".
 
2012-07-13 11:38:39 AM
A stretch? Islam wasn't around until about 600 years after Jesus died. Total Fail.
 
2012-07-13 11:41:15 AM

Aarontology: The prosperity gospel is nothing more than capitalism turned into a religion with a faux "Christian" veneer to attract the rubes.


I think it's a political move to try to justify policies that heavily favor the rich. So how can you say that Jesus would be in favor of slashing social programs and giving the super-rich tax cuts? Well, it must be that the rich are just better people!

It's also part of a long tradition in this country of seeing the poor as morally inferior to the rich. That's not new at all.
 
2012-07-13 11:49:16 AM

jake_lex: I think it's a political move to try to justify policies that heavily favor the rich. So how can you say that Jesus would be in favor of slashing social programs and giving the super-rich tax cuts? Well, it must be that the rich are just better people!


That's a good way to put it. It's also part of the intense focus on social issues which Jesus had nothing at all to say about.
 
2012-07-13 12:04:28 PM
If Jesus were a suicide bomber, he could blow up something different every 3 days
 
2012-07-13 12:18:02 PM

bdub77: A stretch? Islam wasn't around until about 600 years after Jesus died. Total Fail.


He's repeatedly mentioned in the Quran as an early prophet of Islam, but after being persecuted by the Romans, he is called back to heaven, having failed in his mission to spread the word of Allah, as the are not ready for it. He then foretells the coming of Muhammad before leaving Earth. He then states he will return to Earth near the end times.

Muslims consider him a prophet, but not the son of God.
 
2012-07-13 12:22:48 PM
Christ is a Muslim in the same sense that the prophets Elijah and Samuel are Christian prophets.
 
2012-07-13 12:27:25 PM

Sgt Otter: Muslims consider him a prophet, but not the son of God.


The second greatest prophet, actually, who will return before the end of the world.

My favorite line in the Quran regarding Jesus' divinity is "God forbid that God have a son!"
 
2012-07-13 12:35:23 PM
Why is this in the Politics tab?
 
2012-07-13 12:42:46 PM

cman: Why is this in the Politics tab?


Because we don't have a "religion" tab? And if we did, you know Breitbart would be going green over there ALL THE TIME.
 
2012-07-13 12:42:51 PM
I think they're just trollin.
 
2012-07-13 12:43:18 PM

vernonFL: No, Jesus was not a Muslim. That doesn't make any sense, even if you take Muslim to mean "a social justice movement".


I think the claim is basically that Jesus's opinion on social justice is more closely aligned with "Islam" than . . . something. I can't tell if that something is supposed to be the New Testament or modern Christianity.
 
2012-07-13 12:44:08 PM

cman: Why is this in the Politics tab?


Wingnut Daily drives clickthroughs and F5 mashing from the Politics tab denizens. Drew likes boobies and beer.
 
2012-07-13 12:50:27 PM
So, Jesus is more like a Muslim (who is concerned with promoting social justice). OK...but it seems to me that Jesus is also a lot like a Jew (who is concerned with promoting social justice), and a Christian (who is concerned with promoting social justice), and a Hindu (who is concerned with promoting social justice), and a Buddhist (who is concerned with promoting social justice), etc.

The Prosperity Gospel is a stain on all good people of any religion - or no religion.
 
2012-07-13 01:25:27 PM

cman: Why is this in the Politics tab?


They hit their daily quota on the Entertainment tab?

Oh yeah, came here to say WHARGARBBL!
 
2012-07-13 01:41:21 PM

TsarTom: cman: Why is this in the Politics tab?

They hit their daily quota on the Entertainment tab?

Oh yeah, came here to say WHARGARBBL!


There's an Entertainment tab?
 
2012-07-13 01:45:04 PM

Lionel Mandrake: So, Jesus is more like a Muslim (who is concerned with promoting social justice). OK...but it seems to me that Jesus is also a lot like a Jew (who is concerned with promoting social justice), and a Christian (who is concerned with promoting social justice), and a Hindu (who is concerned with promoting social justice), and a Buddhist (who is concerned with promoting social justice), etc


From reading about this guy on sites that don't openly believe that the President of America hates America and Americans, it seems like it's not as much that Jesus promoted social justice, but what his concept of social justice was and how he promoted it. Like, what rights are inherent, what does it mean to do a good deed, etc. There's more nuance to a moral compass than simply "feed the poor, help the sick".

And honestly, I don't think that's a ridiculous claim to make. Putting aside the sensationalist title of the book that was probably chosen specifically to attract this sort of attention, Jesus lived in the middle east, and Christianity changed drastically once Rome got a hold of it.
 
2012-07-13 02:00:10 PM
 
2012-07-13 03:18:36 PM
Actually he was Buddhist.
 
2012-07-13 03:25:15 PM
Jesus was a Muslim. Your argument is invalid.
 
2012-07-13 03:27:25 PM
fta: He described his book as a "call for Christians and Muslims to work together to promote social justice."

ftWNDc: This so-called professor needs to be fired!

LOL.

Prosperity gospel believers are religious heretics and total failures as human beings.

/Atheist/Recovering Catholic.
 
2012-07-13 03:29:44 PM

jigger: Actually he was Buddhist.


encrypted-tbn1.google.com

Being the Son of Man, so easy a caveman could do it.
 
2012-07-13 03:31:31 PM
I wonder what that fictional character from a plagiarized mythology would do in a hypothetical situation he couldn't have ever taken part in?
 
2012-07-13 03:34:40 PM

jigger: Actually he was Buddhist.


He was a great buddha.

He was also closer to being a follower of Islam than a large percentage of self-proclaimed christians are to being followers of Christ.

As far as I can tell from where I sit....:P

Heck, he probably ate kosher/hallall
 
2012-07-13 03:34:57 PM
Why link to WND?

I don't post rants from my senile family members in retirement homes on fark, why should anyone else?
 
2012-07-13 03:36:14 PM
To be fair Muhammad and Jesus are brothers from another mother, same dad.

One is the red headed stepchild, go ahead and take a guess.
 
2012-07-13 03:36:21 PM

Epoch_Zero: I wonder what that fictional character from a plagiarized mythology would do in a hypothetical situation he couldn't have ever taken part in?


The Flash would totes have been a philosopher in ancient Greece.
 
2012-07-13 03:37:10 PM

Bossk'sSegway: To be fair Muhammad and Jesus are brothers from another mother, same dad.

One is the red headed stepchild, go ahead and take a guess.


Aquaman?
 
2012-07-13 03:37:19 PM

jigger: Actually he was Buddhist.


You and every one else in this thread is an heretic, he was a Jedi.
 
2012-07-13 03:37:52 PM
That's a lot of wasted intellectual horsepower on a man who didn't actually exist.
 
2012-07-13 03:40:46 PM

talkertopc: jigger: Actually he was Buddhist.

You and every one else in this thread is an heretic, he was a Jedi.


talkertopc: jigger: Actually he was Buddhist.

You and every one else in this thread is an heretic, he was a Jedi.


i2.listal.com
Right on, man!
 
2012-07-13 03:43:56 PM
What's World Nut Daily whining about this time?

TFH is incomprehensible.
 
2012-07-13 03:47:01 PM

Bossk'sSegway: To be fair Muhammad and Jesus are brothers from another mother, same dad.

One is the red headed stepchild, go ahead and take a guess.


Muhammaed was a ginger?
 
2012-07-13 03:48:39 PM
Here, to save some of you the click:

FTA:A professor at an Iowa college says as a Christian, he has to say that Jesus was a Muslim.

Ignoring the historical timeline in which Jesus taught some 2,000 years ago in the Middle East and the advent of Islam is dated six centuries later, after Christianity had impacted much of the known globe, Robert F. Shedinger, who wrote "Was Jesus a Muslim?" said his research convinced him of Jesus as aligning in thought with Islam.


And the links they use to back up their take:
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=3078 Video report "uncovered" by "Campus Reform".
http://www.luther.edu/religion/faculty/ The college's listing of faculty, showing this guy is trying to subvert Christianity, so please go get him.
http://www.amazon.com/Was-Jesus-Muslim-Questioning-Categories A link to Amazon's listing for the book found by the author in a search results for "was jesus a muslim".
http://www.luther.edu/about/ How to find and/or complain to school officials.
 
2012-07-13 03:49:51 PM
Whatever religion historical Jesus practiced during his life, by definition he cannot be considered a "christian" in the modern sense. Traditional Christianity is based on the gospels that serve as a record of his words and actions. It came about well after the fact. Saying he was the "original christian" is an argument in semantics.

What passes for christianity today has little to do with anything other than regressive republican politics.
 
2012-07-13 03:50:46 PM

vernonFL: No, Jesus was not a Muslim. That doesn't make any sense, even if you take Muslim to mean "a social justice movement".


He's not saying Jesus was a card-carrying member of the Church of IslamTM. He's saying Jesus' teachings align with Islam.
 
2012-07-13 03:51:05 PM
I always thought Jesus was jewish, which explains a lot

He never believed in himself, either.
 
2012-07-13 03:53:04 PM

whidbey: What's World Nut Daily whining about this time?

TFH is incomprehensible.


WND found some college professor who says that Jesus's actions were more like those of a present day Muslim than those of a Christian. The cries of Christian persecution you'd expect in a WND article that starts with that premise are strangely absent*, but I believe that's mainly because the rest of the article is an advertisement for his new book. I suppose WND is not yet able to simultaneously offer up shameless shilling and manufactured outrage.

*applies to article only, the comments are naturally filled with denounciations of the Satanist Islamofacist socialist who's trying to manchurian candidate the youth of america while being funded by your tax dollars.
 
2012-07-13 03:53:20 PM

TsarTom: Oh yeah, came here to say WHARGARBBL!


I was actually going to post a picture, but a QFT'll do.
 
2012-07-13 03:53:47 PM
Karac:

Thank you.
 
2012-07-13 04:00:22 PM

SphericalTime: vernonFL: No, Jesus was not a Muslim. That doesn't make any sense, even if you take Muslim to mean "a social justice movement".

I think the claim is basically that Jesus's opinion on social justice is more closely aligned with "Islam" than . . . something. I can't tell if that something is supposed to be the New Testament or modern Christianity.


If Jesus was a proto-Muslim then Judaism is proto-Scientology, and Zoroastrianism is primal Mormonism.

If that makes no sense, it's because it doesn't.
 
2012-07-13 04:02:36 PM
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2012-07-13 04:03:46 PM

Great_Milenko: What passes for christianity today has little to do with anything other than regressive republican politics.


Nice try, but sorry, you lose.
/Christian Democrat
 
2012-07-13 04:04:41 PM
Jesus wasn't a terribly good Jew, though.

Deuteronomy: "Don't you change a FARKING word - no adding, no subtracting."
New Testament: "Don't bother with all the trappings of observance. We have a new covenant now."

Not that many today are better or that the statement somehow "invalidates" Jesus' Judaism, but...you know - facts.
 
2012-07-13 04:07:11 PM
Jesus as a political revolutionary is not a new concept. It isn't as wacky as it sounds, either.
 
2012-07-13 04:08:15 PM
wtf?
 
2012-07-13 04:10:16 PM

jake_lex: Aarontology: The prosperity gospel is nothing more than capitalism turned into a religion with a faux "Christian" veneer to attract the rubes.

I think it's a political move to try to justify policies that heavily favor the rich. So how can you say that Jesus would be in favor of slashing social programs and giving the super-rich tax cuts? Well, it must be that the rich are just better people!

It's also part of a long tradition in this country of seeing the poor as morally inferior to the rich. That's not new at all.


It's about power, pure and simple, and who those who have it can cloak themselves in order to keep it from those who might take it away. Call it Prosperity Gospel, call it the Divine Right of Kings, or the Mandate of Heaven. It's about keeping power as close to your hands as possible, by any means necessary.
 
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