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2012-07-13 12:58:15 PM
And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.
 
2012-07-13 01:05:14 PM
Tl;DR. Also: Your blog sucks.
 
2012-07-13 01:13:11 PM
I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I'm glad your dumb comic never got published, and you should feel bad for wasting your life. Now go dig a ditch.
 
2012-07-13 01:17:04 PM

flaminio: I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".


I stopped at "tongue and cheek".
 
2012-07-13 01:18:07 PM

flaminio: I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I'm glad your dumb comic never got published, and you should feel bad for wasting your life. Now go dig a ditch.


t1.gstatic.com

Second
 
2012-07-13 01:24:29 PM
Wow. Everything I came to say has been covered in 6 comments.

God bless fark.
 
2012-07-13 01:32:57 PM
I know it's already been pointed out, but tongue and cheek? I guess writing isn't for everyone...
 
2012-07-13 01:35:51 PM
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It's funny, see, because the diet soda isn't really going to help him lose much weight.

Fresh! Edgy!
 
2012-07-13 01:36:18 PM

ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.


I dug further back. Basically all the same hack work. He has decent drawing talent, and under a better writer this could become something great. But no, the syndicate was right to drop this. That old person audience is already covered by Pluggers
 
2012-07-13 01:45:32 PM

ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.



That's what happens when you "work to create a 6-10 month backlog." You have to use every idea (and re-use every idea that's already been done).

He should have culled the best samples out of the lot instead of using everything, then maybe we'd feel a tiny bit sorry this strip never saw the proper light of day.

Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.
 
2012-07-13 01:48:19 PM

Ed Willy: That old person audience is already covered by Pluggers


I don't think you can really over saturate the old person market in news papers.

For god's sake the demographic that reads newspapers routinely gets offended at how extreme Get Fuzzy and Dilbert are.
 
2012-07-13 01:56:55 PM
hahhahahaha...hoo....hahahahaha...oh boy...let me catch my breath here. teehee..and get this....hahaha, oh man it's just too much....whooo A Diet Soda? Are you kidding me? Man, my sides are splitting over here...stop it, STOP IT! I can't take it....
 
2012-07-13 01:56:59 PM

improvius: [popscomics.com image 640x220]

It's funny, see, because the diet soda isn't really going to help him lose much weight.

Fresh! Edgy!


You know, I never really get that argument. A 32 oz regular soda contains around 400 calories. If you eat out 5 times a week, and order the diet soda each time, you're saving yourself 2000 calories a week, well over half a pound!

I mean, eating at McDonalds won't help you lose weight, but to say people are stupid for limiting their calories by 300-600 calories in a meal is kind of asinine.
 
2012-07-13 01:58:02 PM

Christian Bale: ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.


That's what happens when you "work to create a 6-10 month backlog." You have to use every idea (and re-use every idea that's already been done).

He should have culled the best samples out of the lot instead of using everything, then maybe we'd feel a tiny bit sorry this strip never saw the proper light of day.

Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.


Not to mention the fact that the strips were created 10 years ago, which explains why many of them are terribly outdated.
 
2012-07-13 02:46:08 PM

Lorelle: Christian Bale: ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.


That's what happens when you "work to create a 6-10 month backlog." You have to use every idea (and re-use every idea that's already been done).

He should have culled the best samples out of the lot instead of using everything, then maybe we'd feel a tiny bit sorry this strip never saw the proper light of day.

Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.

Not to mention the fact that the strips were created 10 years ago, which explains why many of them are terribly outdated.


I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.
 
2012-07-13 02:57:42 PM
His local paper is the Arizona Republic. I got that far and concluded fark him. You live in Arizona, Comic Hack, you get whatever happens to you. Though, a comic about the elderly on the cusp of a new era could hit big in Arizona. It just would need to be about things that confuse old Arizonans like poors, browns and womens not stepping off the sidewalk and into the gutter when elderly whites walk by. It would need to include topical humor about how all browns take from whites on social medicine and income. It would have to work in stuff about sluts needing birth control to be sluts. It could also including some hilarious tongue between teeth humor about banning minotiry studies and pulling books like Bless Me, Ultima from libraries. He should have left out the dated diet soda reference and drawn a cartoon about old shrivs snowbirding to AZ and skull farking the whole state.
 
2012-07-13 03:10:23 PM
www.fudebakudo.com
 
2012-07-13 03:14:30 PM
I like the linework, but that writing... blech.
 
2012-07-13 03:21:10 PM

mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.


That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.
 
2012-07-13 03:37:48 PM

dryknife: [www.fudebakudo.com image 383x280]



Kliban rules.
 
2012-07-13 03:39:18 PM

FormlessOne: mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.


That's two votes for Family Circus being good? I just... I don't... Erg flug grbfki..rghffkjfkjnf..!!!

/great, my brain just imploded. Thanks a lot, guys.
 
2012-07-13 03:44:17 PM
What's the solution? Put in a clause that says you pay me $5000 if you reneg? I wonder why that wasn't in there to begin with. You have a shiatty agent, cartooniman.
 
2012-07-13 03:45:00 PM
That's just the kind of cutting edge, baby-boomer cartoonin' I've been looking for!! I'm going to offer him a 17 year contract!
 
2012-07-13 03:53:41 PM

mcmnky: read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago.


One of these is not like the others.
 
2012-07-13 03:55:51 PM

RichieLaw: You know, I never really get that argument. A 32 oz regular soda contains around 400 calories. If you eat out 5 times a week, and order the diet soda each time, you're saving yourself 2000 calories a week, well over half a pound!


I don't get this counter-argument. Eating out 5 times a week?
 
2012-07-13 04:00:06 PM
The humor's done-to-death bland. The art is just fine, but does EVERYTHING have to be a goddamned closeup? It's standard newspaper size, and I feel like I have to lean much further back from my monitor.
 
2012-07-13 04:29:45 PM
I could just as easily pick it to pieces like most of upthread, but since this was all backlog that never got a chance to be published at it's time, I can't criticize what could have been. If he had some exposure under his belt, no telling how the strip would have developed. It might have even garnered a spot getting riffed at Comics Curmudgeon, a rare treat indeed. The real story is how he was built up by the Syndicate, then had the rug pulled out from under. That was stealing 40 cakes level terrible.
 
2012-07-13 04:31:00 PM

Handsome B. Wonderful: RichieLaw: You know, I never really get that argument. A 32 oz regular soda contains around 400 calories. If you eat out 5 times a week, and order the diet soda each time, you're saving yourself 2000 calories a week, well over half a pound!

I don't get this counter-argument. Eating out 5 times a week?


I would say I eat out at least 5 times a week. 5 meals out of 21 isn't a large stretch and is probably much less than the average American. Further, those that eat out fast food a lot (I do not) will likely get even more of a benefit from drinking diet soda. Yes, they shouldn't eat such crap in the first place, but to disparage them for cutting out an extra 300-400 calories at a meal seems counter-intuitive.
 
2012-07-13 05:08:52 PM

EdgeRunner: FormlessOne: mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.

That's two votes for Family Circus being good? I just... I don't... Erg flug grbfki..rghffkjfkjnf..!!!

/great, my brain just imploded. Thanks a lot, guys.


It's a relative term. Family Circus, as tired as it is these days, is still better than this inked hot mess.
 
2012-07-13 05:10:27 PM
And yet Funky Winkerbean still rolls on.
 
2012-07-13 05:12:50 PM

theesir: That's just the kind of cutting edge, baby-boomer cartoonin' I've been looking for!! I'm going to offer him a 17 year contract!


I wouldn't offer one and sure as shait wouldn't sign one w/o one bunch of riders and clauses which more than guananteed me the other party's soul and choice of of-age female relatives.
 
2012-07-13 05:51:52 PM
Cabbage Patch Kids.
 
2012-07-13 05:59:48 PM

Bleyo: mcmnky: read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago.

One of these is not like the others.


You're right, family circus was awesome.
 
2012-07-13 06:11:14 PM
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Who knew slave ships could be so funny!

/Comic sucks harder than your sister on prom night
 
2012-07-13 06:48:56 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: flaminio: I got as far as the inappropriate "it's".

I stopped at "tongue and cheek".


ya, me too. bye.
 
2012-07-13 07:25:48 PM
Yeah he's a good artist, but being a good artist doesn't make you funny. RIP Calvin.
 
2012-07-13 07:38:41 PM

Christian Bale: Too bad about the contract though, that sucks to get screwed over and have no real recourse.


Maybe next time don't do work that you don't have an ironclad contract for.

You've decided not to honor the 17-year syndication deal we both signed? There's a five-year buyout clause. Pay me.

/can't blame them for dropping this lazy crap.
 
2012-07-13 08:29:50 PM

EdgeRunner: FormlessOne: mcmnky: I read Calvin & Hobbes, Farside, Family Circus strips from over 10 years ago. Those never seem outdated.

That's because, unlike this well-drawn but otherwise trite & hackneyed crap, those strips were good.

That's two votes for Family Circus being good? I just... I don't... Erg flug grbfki..rghffkjfkjnf..!!!

/great, my brain just imploded. Thanks a lot, guys.


I almost went with Ziggy, but fark seems more the Family Circus crowd.

/but I was serious about the first two
//timeless art is timeless
 
2012-07-13 09:14:10 PM
read a couple months worth just to make sure I wasn't rushing to judgment

peeeeyew

that's juat eff'ing bad
 
2012-07-14 12:02:55 AM
Wow did Fark suddenly turn into Kuro5hin today what with all the critics.
 
2012-07-14 02:01:37 AM
www.coldbacon.com

B. Kliban does rule. I wish I could find his "bra full of nickels" piece.
 
2012-07-14 02:02:16 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-14 09:26:02 AM

furiousidiot: Wow did Fark suddenly turn into Kuro5hin today what with all the critics.


I don't know what that is, but it sounds like it sucks.
 
2012-07-14 09:45:51 AM

Ed Willy: ilikeracecars: And the first comic that showed up was the old "every thing on the menu and a diet coke" joke. Great stuff.

I dug further back. Basically all the same hack work. He has decent drawing talent, and under a better writer this could become something great. But no, the syndicate was right to drop this. That old person audience is already covered by Pluggers


It's what he designed the comic to be apparently. I didn't see anything except a blog post (no comic) and skimmed that, expecting some hilarious shenanigans about an artist getting screwed etc.

Instead I got 'I vat-grew this comic to appeal to aging retirees of the Baby Boomer generation like 4,000,000 other people/things/ideas, and the studio was initially interested in this but quickly realized they could simply produce it in-house by yet another hack retard artist/writer huffing gas fumes for pennies on my dollar'.

The ONLY place this...smeg...could survive would be the newspaper, next to Funky Winkerbead, Family Circle, and Garfield.

It's a generic distilation of pap that people might scan over when looking for 'edgier' Dilbert comics.
 
2012-07-14 11:46:44 AM
The people looked at samples of his strip, saw that it was quite well-drawn, and expressed interest. He then labored for a few months and demonstrated that his talent for storytelling is utterly absent, and all the good drawing in the world won't make the strip readable.
He needs to un-delude himself and hook up with a writer.
 
2012-07-16 11:56:16 AM
Is it just me or does Pops look like The Lorax? Has anyone called the Dr. about this?
 
2012-07-16 01:41:33 PM

jso2897: The people looked at samples of his strip, saw that it was quite well-drawn, and expressed interest. He then labored for a few months and demonstrated that his talent for storytelling is utterly absent, and all the good drawing in the world won't make the strip readable.
He needs to un-delude himself and hook up with a writer.


This, actually. He needs to pull a Penny Arcade.
 
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