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(Buzzfeed)   NAACP starting to notice that Obama isn't one of them, but Obama still has their votes in his pocket   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 78
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vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-13 09:45:26 AM
We get it, he's a mulatto.
 
2012-07-13 09:58:36 AM
It's for the same reason why Obama is up in the polls nationally and in most swing states: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.
 
2012-07-13 10:36:55 AM
I don't know that skipping it wasn't a good political move. Obama is kind of portraying the choice that the members of the NAACP have.

On one hand, you've got Obama, who didn't attend and isn't necessarily exactly what the NAACP wants . . . and then you've got Romney who attended their convention and showed them exactly what they're going to get if he's elected. What's the choice going to be.
 
2012-07-13 10:43:23 AM
FTA: Others speculated that conservatives would have used the president's presence at the convention to appeal to racist voters.

Yup. Conservatives and Teabaggers also would have accused Obama of pandering to the black community.
 
2012-07-13 10:52:06 AM

SphericalTime: I don't know that skipping it wasn't a good political move. Obama is kind of portraying the choice that the members of the NAACP have.

On one hand, you've got Obama, who didn't attend and isn't necessarily exactly what the NAACP wants . . . and then you've got Romney who attended their convention and showed them exactly what they're going to get if he's elected. What's the choice going to be.



Somebody said yesterday that Willard spoke there as a dog whistle to the racists. Maybe this is the same thing by Obama.

By not associating with the NAACP too closely, he signals the borderline racist that he's not exactly "one of them", which is sort of true, because, as the son of a Kenyan immigrant, he doesn't share the same heritage of the Afro-Americans descended from slaves. He just doesn't have that family history and so probably has a different outlook.

This might actually help with older people who are still re-fighting the old civil rights battles.
 
2012-07-13 10:52:26 AM

Lorelle: FTA: Others speculated that conservatives would have used the president's presence at the convention to appeal to racist voters.

Yup. Conservatives and Teabaggers also would have accused Obama of pandering to the black community.


Heh... can you imagine how pissed off they'd be if the Obama campaign set up some sort of outreach program for black voters?
 
2012-07-13 10:57:43 AM
Well, I also realize that Obama isn't my candidate either. He leans too right. He's the best Republican president we've had in decades. I'd rather have ran a Democrat but this is our bed and I can still recognize greatness. Obama is a really good president and has made a lot of hard calls that turned out to be dead on despite being unpopular. He's earned my support this election just as he's earned my support in the last election.
 
2012-07-13 11:15:15 AM
This summer, Balack Husqvarna Obongo stars in Not Black Enough.
 
2012-07-13 11:15:27 AM
I'm really coming to appreciate the hard-hitting political reporting of Buzzfeed.
 
2012-07-13 11:18:20 AM
Obama saw "The Avengers" instead of "Madea's Witness Protection!"
 
2012-07-13 11:41:21 AM
Did you hear Joe Biden's speech? He's definitely an honorary member.
 
2012-07-13 12:15:22 PM
FTA: "But to say it was a scheduling conflict, that's bull. At the end of the day, it's the NAACP; you schedule stuff around them. You're supposed to know when there's a convention, and you're supposed to come."

Yes, you're definitely supposed to schedule your Presidency around appearing at a convention.

Idiot.
 
2012-07-13 12:15:47 PM
Yes, Obama still unfairly has the NAACP in his pocket...because conservatives have such a long endearing history with minorities in this country.
 
2012-07-13 12:16:00 PM
Obama seen watching the Pro Bowling Tour on ABC. OUTRAGE!
 
2012-07-13 12:16:30 PM

Aarontology: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.


done in two
 
2012-07-13 12:16:56 PM
"I don't think there's anyone around the president who's really, truly from the black community,"

Can someone please explain what that is supposed to mean? Of the millions of blacks, they have one "community"?
 
2012-07-13 12:17:46 PM
Why is it so easy to believe that redneck Tea Party voters will vote against their own self interest because they believe in higher principles, but when it comes to NAACP members it is only believable for them to vote the interest of their own racial group?

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(click to vote in new window every day)
 
2012-07-13 12:19:09 PM
Hah. Obama is out for number one. He bamboozled and hoodwinked you in the last election, and all you have to show for it are the torn threads of hope and broken promises of change.
 
2012-07-13 12:19:58 PM
They found one guy who was a little dissapointed. Cue the outrage.
 
2012-07-13 12:21:13 PM
Whatever, NAACP. We're all lucky to have this man in office.

The criticism is noted, but someone is clearly not seeing the benefits.
 
2012-07-13 12:21:38 PM
From the other article down page on the same speech that we talked about yesterday:

"I thought it was a moving speech. It was pretty inspirational. He got everybody hyped up," said Colbert, 42, a real estate agent. "This is an election year, and it would have been nice to see Obama here. But, I saw the reaction that the people got from Joe Biden and his presence and I got to thinking: The president has things to do. We're going to support him any way it goes."
 
2012-07-13 12:22:41 PM
Yes, at my Peace Corps 10 year reunion, we were also disappointed Obama didn't show up. Didn't he get our eInvite? What a prick.
 
2012-07-13 12:23:00 PM

Bag of Hammers: Aarontology: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.

done in two


That is pretty much the theme of the election this year:

"Why isn't Obama losing by double digits, considering the economy?"
Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.

"Why aren't more Obama supporters upset about his killing of civilians with drones?"
Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.

There is a pretty long list you can build. It is what we've come to for the most powerful job on Earth: "He's not as bad". And we seem to accept that, rather than seriously looking at alternatives. Rocky Anderson, for example, seems to be a candidate progressives would jump to support. But he is "throwing away a vote", so the status quo wins.
 
2012-07-13 12:24:10 PM

downpaymentblues: "I don't think there's anyone around the president who's really, truly from the black community,"

Can someone please explain what that is supposed to mean? Of the millions of blacks, they have one "community"?


Chambliss didn't know Obama got married.

And he doesn't want to be THE BLACK PRESIDENT. This is obvious to anyone who looks up from their navel for a few minutes.
 
2012-07-13 12:24:47 PM
Rmoney showing up at the convention was so much more effective that if the President had shown up, like the rhetoric of evangelical fire and brimstone preachers on Sunday morning.

In essence, you don't need to show them heaven when showing them hell is so much more effective.

Vote republican.
 
2012-07-13 12:24:56 PM

PanicMan: They found one guy who was a little dissapointed. Cue the outrage.


And that guy said such devastating things as "We have to re-elect him" and "We can give him a pass".

This is truly bad news for Obama.
 
2012-07-13 12:25:21 PM
That dick, Bill Murray, probably isn't going to crash my party, either. Well, I'm not going to watch any of HIS movies anymore, I can tell you that.

Well, maybe I'll watch Groundhog day just ONE more time...
 
2012-07-13 12:25:56 PM

Soup4Bonnie: From the other article down page on the same speech that we talked about yesterday:

"I thought it was a moving speech. It was pretty inspirational. He got everybody hyped up," said Colbert, 42, a real estate agent. "This is an election year, and it would have been nice to see Obama here. But, I saw the reaction that the people got from Joe Biden and his presence and I got to thinking: The president has things to do. We're going to support him any way it goes."


Well sure. They are all racist. They only cheered Joe Biden because he's black :-)
 
2012-07-13 12:26:48 PM

vpb: We get it, he's a mulatto.


Done in one.
 
2012-07-13 12:27:26 PM
Once again 0bummer didn't show up to my house for dinner last night, so I will not be voting for him again even though we agree on many issues and the other guy that is running for office scares the shiat out of me. By the way, the food was awesome. Hope you are happy Fartbongo!
 
2012-07-13 12:29:19 PM
Tyler Perry's Obama 2012: A Tyler Perry Production
 
2012-07-13 12:29:31 PM

vpb: We get it, he's a mulatto.


He can only attend every other convention because he's only half-blah?
 
2012-07-13 12:29:56 PM

downpaymentblues: Rocky Anderson, for example, seems to be a candidate progressives would jump to support. But he is "throwing away a vote", so the status quo wins.


There should be no quotations around that. A vote for a third party is a wasted vote. A supposed clean conscious for voting for your ideal candidate means little in the real world. Until the process for electing a president changes, it'll be two parties. Furthermore, you can't just jump in at the top, you have to build a base of support. You build a strong party from the bottom-up, not top-down. Get people in state legislatures, then the House, then the Senate, then you can talk about getting a third party president.

That's reality. Politics is reality, not ideals.
 
2012-07-13 12:30:25 PM
When the other guy is trying to hurt someone, you don't really need to be their champion to get their support. Christ, GOP, if you hadn't spent the last 4 years trying to piss off every group of people other than rich, white, Christian, landowning, sociopath males over the age of 50, then you'd have this in the bag.
 
2012-07-13 12:31:10 PM
I don't understand why black people voting for the first black president is supposed to be a bad thing.
 
2012-07-13 12:31:41 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Obama saw "The Avengers" instead of "Madea's Witness Protection!"


I also saw Avengers instead of MWP. Mostly because the Avengers looked awesome, and was, while MWP looked stupid.
 
2012-07-13 12:33:01 PM
One of "them"?
 
2012-07-13 12:34:17 PM

Car_Ramrod: There should be no quotations around that. A vote for a third party is a wasted vote. A supposed clean conscious for voting for your ideal candidate means little in the real world


I wonder where we would be if people believed that back when the country didn't only have Republicans and Democrats.

It takes time for a 3rd party to develop. It doesn't happen overnight. But when people like you have the attitude that even TRYING to change our system is a "waste of time", it becomes a self-fulfilling claim.

"Voting third party doesn't matter, so I'm not going to even try to get support for the candidate I really support".

"See? He isn't getting much support. I was right".
 
2012-07-13 12:34:53 PM

paygun: I don't understand why black people voting for the first black president is supposed to be a bad thing.


It's not even an anomaly. Black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, like to the tune of 90%. Check out what Clinton, Gore, and Kerry got. There's a small amount of people voting for Obama just because he's black, but it's mostly people voting for a Democrat just a bit harder.
 
2012-07-13 12:39:10 PM
A smart politician takes what they can get.

Votes equals position.
Position equals power.
 
2012-07-13 12:40:23 PM
Convention organizers said the president's office cited a "scheduling conflict" as the reason he couldn't attend. (Obama spent today in Washington D.C., and has no major public events.)

If he spent the day in DC, it's reasonable to assume he was occupied. Presidents occasionally have other obligations more important than public events.

Now if he'd spent the day antique shopping or riding the Tilt-A-Whirl at a local fair, then sure, maybe there'd be room for a little poutrage. But implying he must have had time to attend the convention because he wasn't speaking anywhere else? That's just silly.
 
2012-07-13 12:42:44 PM
I think it was good politics to send Biden. As mentioned above, Obama avoids looking like he's pandering to the black community. In addition, he just sent his white 2nd in comman to gush about how great his black boss has been for the country. I think it's good for America--and the black community--to see an honest straight-shooter like joe Biden to say how much he respects Obama. There's absolutely no resentment about losing in the primary to him or working under a black man. It's not that Biden likes Obama because he's black, he likes him because he really thinks he's a great president. I think that's important for minorities to see as well.
 
2012-07-13 12:44:02 PM

Aarontology: It's for the same reason why Obama is up in the polls nationally and in most swing states: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.

It's for the same reason why Obama is up in the polls nationally and in most swing states: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.


It's for the same reason why Obama is up in the polls nationally and in most swing states: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.


It's for the same reason why Obama is up in the polls nationally and in most swing states: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.


It's for the same reason why Obama is up in the polls nationally and in most swing states: Because Romney and the Republicans are even worse.

 
2012-07-13 12:44:04 PM
FTFA: "At the end of the day, it's the NAACP; you schedule stuff around them. You're supposed to know when there's a convention, and you're supposed to come."

Well, they think quite a bit of themselves, don't they?

Just because the president doesn't have a public event, doesn't mean he doesn't have a scheduling conflict. Maybe he's got some top secret briefing from the military or CIA or something. He does have that pesky war to deal with.

I was surprised he didn't show, though, to be honest. It would be just as odd if Palin were to miss a Tea Party rally.
 
2012-07-13 12:44:21 PM
Well, he has advanced about as far as anyone can go no matter what color they are. It's hard to level up after President.
 
2012-07-13 12:44:25 PM
Good challenge here:

try to imagine yourself as black (if you are not) then look at the two candidates. Do you vote for the guy who is half-black or do you vote for the guy who has no trace of ever even knowing a black person and thinks all black people want is free stuff from the government?
 
2012-07-13 12:47:19 PM

paygun: I don't understand why black people voting for the first black president is supposed to be a bad thing.


Its not even true really. Obama's voter base is whiter than Clinton's was.
 
2012-07-13 12:49:00 PM

paygun: I don't understand why black people voting for the first black president is supposed to be a bad thing.


I can see being annoyed if you think people are voting for him just because he's (half) black, though to be fair there are lots of reasons people vote for/against someone that are just as dumb. (See: "He's the one I'd rather have a beer with")

But I actually don't think there's a lot of that going on, because the way I see it, to say someone was voting for Obama just because he's black, that person would have to be willing to vote for Romney if Obama were white (but otherwise the same).

Try as I might I can't imagine a set of political views that would lead someone that way. Though there's probably a few (Black Panthers who voted for Bob Dole, perhaps?)
 
2012-07-13 12:49:07 PM

geek_mars: Well, they think quite a bit of themselves, don't they?

Chambliss went on to say he "long[ed] for the day when the NAACP will be an organization where every president, whether Republican or Democrat, would come because there would be punitive damages for not coming.


It's almost like "Obama's a racist" was right on the tip of his tongue but he caught himself at the last moment. Old habits die hard.
 
2012-07-13 12:50:02 PM
Here's my probably very unpopular opinion about the "black community". I think they face an identity crisis. You've got some good black communities, mostly in the North (Washington DC, NY, etc.) who have, after a long period of racial discrimination, finally gotten access to better education and have good jobs - the rising black middle class and the black elite. Obama falls in here. You have another, probably much larger, group of poorer black communities centered in urban areas that are total disasters, that are your standard poverty cycle areas that are generationally screwed, some of whom take unfair advantage of welfare programs. This is not a racial issue, but rather a poverty issue - white, black, hispanic, it doesn't really matter who you are, you are at an automatic disadvantage being put into the meat grinder of government assistance. There are some real, IMO unsolved questions about how to fix this. Schooling and economics are probably the biggest factor. Anyway, these two groups, the elites and the poor, do not see eye to eye, just like any class warfare.

I think he had a real scheduling conflict, but I do think that a lot of blacks are angry at Obama for not doing more for the black community - and by that I mean economics and schooling, the two things on his agenda he has not been particularly successful with, and that would probably help the poor most with their current situation. A small minority probably want more welfare, which I think is a non-starter with Obama - although Congresspeople in those urban districts are not going to be willing to make compromises for budget purposes. If I had to guess, Obama and the Congressional Black Caucus do not see eye to eye.

I also think Obama wants to go to people and say, "Hey guys you need to start getting off your butts, some of that responsibility is mine, but most of it is yours." This is a message he should be bringing to every American, btw. Personal responsibility in this country is at an all-time low.

The other thing is that, of course, Obama has this group mostly sewn-up. He doesn't really need to pander to them much, so he's not going to. He throws an occasional bone but has been far more pro-gay than pro-black. And racial politics are tricky. How do you get people to stop seeing things in such (forgive the pun) black and white ways? This is a guy who is half-white but people just see him as black.
 
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