Once, when a reporter asked Paterno when he planned on retiring, he responded by saying he didn't want to leave college football to the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers.

That quote, like many of the scandals listed in TFA, looks a little different this morning.

MarshHawk: Once, when a reporter asked Paterno when he planned on retiring, he responded by saying he didn't want to leave college football to the Jackie Sherrills and Barry Switzers.

That quote, like many of the scandals listed in TFA, looks a little different this morning.

That would be an improvement.

WhoIsWillo: Lack of institutional control, for starters.

Or possibly, too much institutional control.

scottydoesntknow: doglover: WhoIsWillo: The actions at Penn State also likely violated NCAA bylaw 10.1, which regulates unethical actions by athletes, staff members and former staff members.

Keep farkin' that chicken child.

FTFY

If you're gonna quote Paterno, at least get it right.

I'm glad I checked to make sure that correction was already posted before I repeated it.

What the NCAA does or doesn't do to the athletics program isn't my primary concern. We have a shiat-load of criminal and civil matters that need to be addressed before I'll start worrying about their athletics program being penalized by the NCAA.

ShamWowofDamocles: What the NCAA does or doesn't do to the athletics program isn't my primary concern. We have a shiat-load of criminal and civil matters that need to be addressed before I'll start worrying about their athletics program being penalized by the NCAA.

That's true, but Penn State shouldn't play another down of football until those cases are resolved.

No NCAA rules were broken? (Perhaps it's you who should keep farking that chicken)

per the NCAA Constitution, Article 2.4

2.4 The PrInciple of Sportsmanship and Ethical Conduct.

"For intercollegiate athletics to promote the character development of participants, to enhance the integrity of higher education and to promote civility in society, student-athletes, coaches, and all others associated with these athletics programs and events should adhere to such fundamental values as respect, fairness, civility, honesty and responsibility. These values should be manifest not only in athletics participation, but also in the broad spectrum of activities affecting the athletics program."

The next few sections require all member institutions to put in place rules and procedures to ensure that these elements are enforced.

Clearly, the Penn State program did not adhere to the fundamental values of respect, civility, honesty and responsibility as it relates to their football program. Thus, they are in violation of the rules (Constitution) of the NCAA.

At first I was for the death penalty - the more I think about it - the more I am for the NCAA just expelling their football program (or entire athletic department) from the NCAA. Let them go join the NAIA or something.

I'm torn on this one. I don't think it's fair to the current players, the new staff, etc. to issue a death penalty. That said, this certainly calls for it. Give the players a transfer and shut down the program for a year. That's probably the only way to get the point across to the ones still defending this, and to the universities out there to never let this shiat happen again.

Cheesus: I'm torn on this one. I don't think it's fair to the current players, the new staff, etc. to issue a death penalty. That said, this certainly calls for it. Give the players a transfer and shut down the program for a year. That's probably the only way to get the point across to the ones still defending this, and to the universities out there to never let this shiat happen again.

It's almost never fair to the current players/staff. The offenders are long gone before they're discovered.

'Those Who Stay Will Be Champions', says the SMU sign-holding guy.

That was a sign someone made.

Penn State on pace to have the highest year ever for alumni donations.

Penn State grads approve of child rape and even support it. Penn State fans are part of the culture that allowed this to happen.

The entire Penn State athletic program should be given the NCAA death penalty for all sports.

I am pleased to see the University of Alabama isn't on that list.

Yet.

If BSPN had written this article, the OSU tattoo scandal would have been #1.

/And possibly #2 through #5

TheWhoppah: Penn State on pace to have the highest year ever for alumni donations.

Penn State grads approve of child rape and even support it. Penn State fans are part of the culture that allowed this to happen.

The entire Penn State athletic program should be given the NCAA death penalty for all sports.

It's always amusing to see a "circle the wagons" mentality from the outside. My own school went through this recently as the NCAA deemed our nickname "hostile and abusive" to Native Americans. The final battles have played out this year and as it drew closer and closer to a finish the circle became tighter and the defenders more and more shrill.

JohnAnnArbor: rka: TheWhoppah: Penn State on pace to have the highest year ever for alumni donations.

Penn State grads approve of child rape and even support it. Penn State fans are part of the culture that allowed this to happen.

The entire Penn State athletic program should be given the NCAA death penalty for all sports.

It's always amusing to see a "circle the wagons" mentality from the outside. My own school went through this recently as the NCAA deemed our nickname "hostile and abusive" to Native Americans. The final battles have played out this year and as it drew closer and closer to a finish the circle became tighter and the defenders more and more shrill.

Fighting Sioux?

Yes.

i think the Miami U scandal should be much higher, certainly top 5. and Jerry Tarkanian taking the NCAA to the Supreme Court should be on there. Really just his whole relationship with the NCAA should be on there.

/duke still sucks

In other news, the NCAA dropped the hammer on Caltech to show how pissed off they are about the Penn State scandal:

Chicago State should be on this list. It is the only accredited university I know of that could be bested by University of Phoenix.

JohnAnnArbor: rka: JohnAnnArbor: rka: TheWhoppah: Penn State on pace to have the highest year ever for alumni donations.

Penn State grads approve of child rape and even support it. Penn State fans are part of the culture that allowed this to happen.

The entire Penn State athletic program should be given the NCAA death penalty for all sports.

It's always amusing to see a "circle the wagons" mentality from the outside. My own school went through this recently as the NCAA deemed our nickname "hostile and abusive" to Native Americans. The final battles have played out this year and as it drew closer and closer to a finish the circle became tighter and the defenders more and more shrill.

Fighting Sioux?

Yes.

Central Michigan is the Chippewas. NCAA doesn't seem to be messing with them.


Great support from the local tribe means a lot. Kept the name, but they've eliminated any mascot and other symbols.

The Flexecutioner: i think the Miami U scandal should be much higher, certainly top 5. and Jerry Tarkanian taking the NCAA to the Supreme Court should be on there. Really just his whole relationship with the NCAA should be on there.

/duke still sucks

Wrong Miami, dude.

rka: JohnAnnArbor: rka: TheWhoppah: Penn State on pace to have the highest year ever for alumni donations.

Penn State grads approve of child rape and even support it. Penn State fans are part of the culture that allowed this to happen.

The entire Penn State athletic program should be given the NCAA death penalty for all sports.

It's always amusing to see a "circle the wagons" mentality from the outside. My own school went through this recently as the NCAA deemed our nickname "hostile and abusive" to Native Americans. The final battles have played out this year and as it drew closer and closer to a finish the circle became tighter and the defenders more and more shrill.

Fighting Sioux?

Yes.

I want North Dakota to have to change its name SOLELY because of how much of a dick Ralph Engelstad was. In 1988, he threw a birthday party. For Hitler.

fat_free: The Flexecutioner: i think the Miami U scandal should be much higher, certainly top 5. and Jerry Tarkanian taking the NCAA to the Supreme Court should be on there. Really just his whole relationship with the NCAA should be on there.

/duke still sucks

Wrong Miami, dude.

i dont care, you know who im talking about.

WhoIsWillo: Myself and a couple others suggested that was setting a bad precedent, and made them promise they would treat any further violations in the same manner (the volleyball team was among the most minor offenders, accidentally purchasing 'recommended' instead of 'required' books with the funds). This was the result:

Nice layout, nice story. And you've gotta love the irony: while your page-one story was about athletic scandal, page six has a nice little piece covering Barry Bonds' recovery from an injury and mentioning his batting records.