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(Mother Nature Network)   Britain releases its X-files about UFO investigations, including one sighting above Chelsea football club. With helpful picture of what a UFO might look like   (mnn.com) divider line 30
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2012-07-13 12:11:57 PM  
I don't want to believe.
 
2012-07-13 12:13:53 PM  
British officer reports of UFO sightings have been the more credible ones...

...must be that Stonehenge landing site.
 
2012-07-13 12:15:46 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-13 12:20:59 PM  
images.sodahead.com
I knew it!
 
2012-07-13 12:21:58 PM  
Unidentified Farking Objects are figments of the imagination

/hiccup
 
2012-07-13 12:23:46 PM  
www.backtotheeighties.net
 
2012-07-13 12:29:13 PM  
I thought Britain is no longer collecting UFO reports, perhaps because of their UAV program? Here's the thread...
img0.fark.netNot that we're trying to cover anything up, but if you report a UFO sighting from now on, we'll be burning your evidence

derp, now that I went and RTFA, I see it does say something about that... well the UAV stuff is just my speculation, but come on...
 
2012-07-13 12:34:53 PM  
It's a streetlight.
 
2012-07-13 12:42:38 PM  
TFA: "the officer explained that any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism."

Also known as: the list of the only reasons any known life travels any further than it needs to.

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2012-07-13 12:47:51 PM  
I'll be danged, the inter webs have foretold of a coming UFO landing/contact during the London Olympics. They may just do it. It will be man made tho......
 
2012-07-13 01:06:53 PM  
Despite having no hard evidence for alien craft, the officer explained that any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism.

It's called "speculating", you farking morons. Someone asks a question, the guy initially responds with "we have no hard evidence for alien craft" ever visiting the earth, but if they did, then "any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism."

And speaking of this. Aliens or not, the response of saying 'Well if there really WERE aliens, why haven't we seen anyway?" is pretty stupid, since people are reporting seeing that very thing all of the time, so if they ARE aliens, then we HAVE seen them.

Me personally, I don't know, but I am not so conceited as to believe that out of the billions of galaxies with billions of stars in each that we are the absolutely furthest advanced of all possible sentient beings. Who knows? Maybe there was a planet that started earlier than us, and they had a single smaller landmass, so there weren't all of these territorial divisions that have led us to only concentrate on making things to hurt our fellow man. Maybe they didn't have religion to slow them down, either. As a result, they haven't had millennia of war, and they haven't had millennia of people stifling development or keeping it secret due to religious or territorial beliefs.
 
2012-07-13 01:23:53 PM  
media.treehugger.com
 
2012-07-13 01:28:32 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-13 01:33:54 PM  
img137.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-13 01:40:40 PM  
Done in three.
 
2012-07-13 01:47:48 PM  

Mikey1969: Me personally, I don't know, but I am not so conceited as to believe that out of the billions of galaxies with billions of stars in each that we are the absolutely furthest advanced of all possible sentient beings. Who knows? Maybe there was a planet that started earlier than us, and they had a single smaller landmass, so there weren't all of these territorial divisions that have led us to only concentrate on making things to hurt our fellow man. Maybe they didn't have religion to slow them down, either. As a result, they haven't had millennia of war, and they haven't had millennia of people stifling development or keeping it secret due to religious or territorial beliefs.


That there is other intelligent life out there is kind of a straw man. The question is if they've come to Earth. Considering the hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy alone, the odds that intelligent life would spring up close enough to us to have visited us are pretty remote unless we're talking about so much intelligent, advanced life that the galaxy is just teeming with it.

As far as the other galaxies are concerned? There's no chance at all that life came from another galaxy to ours and, doing so, picked our star out of the hundreds of billions of options.
 
2012-07-13 02:11:04 PM  

meanmutton: As far as the other galaxies are concerned? There's no chance at all that life came from another galaxy to ours and, doing so, picked our star out of the hundreds of billions of options.


Yeah, because it's not like we aren't currently using tolls like Hubble to look for exoplanets specifically in the "Goldilocks Zone", to make any further exploration much easier. We're just going to point the spaceship "that way" and hope for the best.
 
2012-07-13 02:23:09 PM  

Mikey1969: meanmutton: As far as the other galaxies are concerned? There's no chance at all that life came from another galaxy to ours and, doing so, picked our star out of the hundreds of billions of options.

Yeah, because it's not like we aren't currently using tolls like Hubble to look for exoplanets specifically in the "Goldilocks Zone", to make any further exploration much easier. We're just going to point the spaceship "that way" and hope for the best.


We do that every time we launch anything into orbit.
 
2012-07-13 02:40:43 PM  
images.picturesdepot.com

Not of this Earth, right?
 
2012-07-13 02:42:23 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Mikey1969: meanmutton: As far as the other galaxies are concerned? There's no chance at all that life came from another galaxy to ours and, doing so, picked our star out of the hundreds of billions of options.

Yeah, because it's not like we aren't currently using tolls like Hubble to look for exoplanets specifically in the "Goldilocks Zone", to make any further exploration much easier. We're just going to point the spaceship "that way" and hope for the best.

We do that every time we launch anything into orbit.


Yeah, they don't calculate ANYTHING. Just light the fuse and run. The rest of the scientists and engineers that accompany a rocket launch are just window dressing.
 
2012-07-13 04:09:26 PM  
I'm in the normal camp of "Yes, clearly alien life exists somewhere, but no, it's never been here", but do you really think that a government would declassify anything that potentially could cause widescale panic?

Even if they had photos of Spock fisting a cow, they wouldn't release it.
 
2012-07-13 04:47:40 PM  

Mikey1969: And speaking of this. Aliens or not, the response of saying 'Well if there really WERE aliens, why haven't we seen anyway?" is pretty stupid, since people are reporting seeing that very thing all of the time, so if they ARE aliens, then we HAVE seen them.


Eyewitness accounts from drunks and half-wits don't really count.

/it's not about having seen something it's about the lack of any hard evidence....at all
 
2012-07-13 05:08:07 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Mikey1969: And speaking of this. Aliens or not, the response of saying 'Well if there really WERE aliens, why haven't we seen anyway?" is pretty stupid, since people are reporting seeing that very thing all of the time, so if they ARE aliens, then we HAVE seen them.

Eyewitness accounts from drunks and half-wits don't really count.

/it's not about having seen something it's about the lack of any hard evidence....at all


Unfortunately, for you, there have also been reports by pilots, both amateur and professional, including military pilots, airline pilots and astronauts. There have also been reports by military personnel, police officers, and other trained observers.

As for no hard evidence, there wasn't any for the Higgs Boson, just speculation that something 'must' be there. There also wasn't any hard evidence for Tut's tomb or the Coelacanth having lived past prehistoric times. Until it was discovered, there wasn't any hard evidence for Machu Picchu or Chichen Itza until they were discovered either. The list goes on. The point is that you can't say the proof that something exists is the fact that you haven't seen it, it's just ridiculous. It's like you're using Mythbusters science or something, choosing what you want to accept before even trying to run the tests.
 
2012-07-13 07:20:11 PM  
"Believe" has nothing to do with anything but continuing to propagate backwards pre-civ thinking, man.
 
2012-07-13 07:34:33 PM  
I heard they are here and there's nothing we can do about it.
 
2012-07-13 07:42:09 PM  

Deep Contact: I heard they are here and there's nothing we can do about it.


Comma error, man. ;)
 
2012-07-13 08:49:45 PM  

Mikey1969: Despite having no hard evidence for alien craft, the officer explained that any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism.

It's called "speculating", you farking morons. Someone asks a question, the guy initially responds with "we have no hard evidence for alien craft" ever visiting the earth, but if they did, then "any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism."

And speaking of this. Aliens or not, the response of saying 'Well if there really WERE aliens, why haven't we seen anyway?" is pretty stupid, since people are reporting seeing that very thing all of the time, so if they ARE aliens, then we HAVE seen them.

Me personally, I don't know, but I am not so conceited as to believe that out of the billions of galaxies with billions of stars in each that we are the absolutely furthest advanced of all possible sentient beings. Who knows? Maybe there was a planet that started earlier than us, and they had a single smaller landmass, so there weren't all of these territorial divisions that have led us to only concentrate on making things to hurt our fellow man. Maybe they didn't have religion to slow them down, either. As a result, they haven't had millennia of war, and they haven't had millennia of people stifling development or keeping it secret due to religious or territorial beliefs.


Pretty much what Mikey1969 said.

This anthropocentric tendency to shoe-horn alleged alien technology into our own technological limitations is simply mind-boggling. I grow weary of scientists and pseudo-skeptics wearing this hubris as an aegis.

Of course it's important to not open your mind so much that your brain falls out, but it is likewise, and also equally important, to not weld your mind shut so tightly that nothing new can get in. THAT is the fundamental problem, IMHO. I mean, really, what's the difference between some loon that runs around claiming every streetlight is a UFO and a loon who buries his head in the proverbial sand whenever a truly legitimate and baffling case shows up (Malmstrom AFB, March 1969)? I'll tell you: nothing. There is no difference between the two because they both ignore evidence.

Something came in from out of nowhere and disabled our nuclear capabilities and we sit around and joke about it? I don't know about you, but I would take that event as extremely serious as serious can get, UFO or not.
 
2012-07-13 08:59:36 PM  
meanmutton:That there is other intelligent life out there is kind of a straw man. The question is if they've come to Earth. Considering the hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy alone, the odds that intelligent life would spring up close enough to us to have visited us are pretty remote unless we're talking about so much intelligent, advanced life that the galaxy is just teeming with it.

Enough with this argument already. The very fact that human beings exist in the first place on this rock destroys this argument. We are here. Against all odds (goldilocks zone, water, a collision that made our moon just the right size and just the right distance), the right mixture of chemistry (either endemic or foreign from comets) and surviving biological evolution.

From my perspective, it is highly likely that another planet may not have had as many life-cancelling close-calls as Earf where life could've easily habitated and evolved thousands - if not millions - of years before us.

We simply break the odds argument simply by virtue of the fact that we are here in the first place.

If we can do it, so can they. And they prolly did it better.
 
2012-07-13 09:05:15 PM  
I know someone who knew this guy Robert Taylor Incident, and they told me he was a straightforward, common-sense sort of person. I don't think an explanation has ever been found for what happened.
 
2012-07-13 09:12:04 PM  

PlatypusPuke: Mikey1969: Despite having no hard evidence for alien craft, the officer explained that any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism.

It's called "speculating", you farking morons. Someone asks a question, the guy initially responds with "we have no hard evidence for alien craft" ever visiting the earth, but if they did, then "any visit would most likely be motivated by military reconnaissance, scientific development or tourism."

And speaking of this. Aliens or not, the response of saying 'Well if there really WERE aliens, why haven't we seen anyway?" is pretty stupid, since people are reporting seeing that very thing all of the time, so if they ARE aliens, then we HAVE seen them.

Me personally, I don't know, but I am not so conceited as to believe that out of the billions of galaxies with billions of stars in each that we are the absolutely furthest advanced of all possible sentient beings. Who knows? Maybe there was a planet that started earlier than us, and they had a single smaller landmass, so there weren't all of these territorial divisions that have led us to only concentrate on making things to hurt our fellow man. Maybe they didn't have religion to slow them down, either. As a result, they haven't had millennia of war, and they haven't had millennia of people stifling development or keeping it secret due to religious or territorial beliefs.

Pretty much what Mikey1969 said.

This anthropocentric tendency to shoe-horn alleged alien technology into our own technological limitations is simply mind-boggling. I grow weary of scientists and pseudo-skeptics wearing this hubris as an aegis.

Of course it's important to not open your mind so much that your brain falls out, but it is likewise, and also equally important, to not weld your mind shut so tightly that nothing new can get in. THAT is the fundamental problem, IMHO. I mean, really, what's the difference between some loon that runs around claiming ...


Read and understood, sir.

I agrrree.
 
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