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(Shadowlocked)   Let's face it: There's still a possibility that The Dark Knight Rises might not be The Best Film Ever   ( divider line
    More: Interesting, TDKR, Dark Knight, Anne Hathaway, The Devil Wears, Heath Ledger, Joss Whedon, razzie, Christian Bale  
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2012-07-13 05:54:51 AM  
2 votes:
Y'know internet, there was a lot more to The Dark Knight then Heath Ledger's second coming of the Clown Christ, his performance has become so overrated, he was good but not, "The greatest actor ever playing a role in the entire history of theater" good.
/Everyone looks at him like a genius because he's dead, see examples: Cobain, Kurt and Hendrix, Jimi
2012-07-13 12:23:04 PM  
1 vote:
Catwoman always sucks. She's just an excuse to have a chick in tight clothing, making bad "pussy" puns and saying cliche, silly stuff like "Meow" and "Cat got your tongue?"

I've always found her to be a waste of a character in movies or TV shows. She's always boiled down to the lowest, most base aspects of her character.

I'd much rather have seen someone useful, like Batwoman, Oracle or Huntress.
2012-07-13 09:53:09 AM  
1 vote:
Batman Begins > The Dark Knight.

We will see how this new film plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic.
2012-07-13 08:59:13 AM  
1 vote:
I thought the second film was a wreck. I liked the first much better.
2012-07-13 07:47:49 AM  
1 vote:
The Empire Strikes Back was a far superior movie to Return of the Jedi, but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy Return of the Jedi.

That is my analogy.
2012-07-13 07:24:19 AM  
1 vote:

DjangoStonereaver: Imperious Rex!: It's the capstone to a much loved trilogy that features amazing talent both in front of and behind the cameras. There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.

And don't forget Catwoman's behind:

Oh, I am very much looking forward to seeing Hathaway in her Catwoman outfit, I am just not expecting greatness. I really hope and think I will be surprised.
2012-07-13 07:09:54 AM  
1 vote:
I didn't realize Heath Ledger's death was a suicide. It thought it was ruled an accidental overdose. Or was that part of the article complete bullshiat?
2012-07-13 06:06:46 AM  
1 vote:

Kurmudgeon: Imperious Rex!: There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.

Besides, no one has filled out the Catsuit as well as Anne Hathaway since Julie Newmar and Lee Meriweather.

Michelle Pfeiffer?

I see Anne Hathaway in the commercials and I keep thinking "why couldn't they get Michelle Pfeiffer back for this?"

Alphax: Well, yeah, the Avengers already came out..

An ensemble cast =/= complexity and actual plot.
2012-07-13 05:56:23 AM  
1 vote:
Best film EVer? Not without the universe scrubbing off the exalted presence of Ernest Scared Stupid from the fabric of spacetime.
2012-07-13 05:42:06 AM  
1 vote:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Has this person seen the movie?


Okay then. Next thread.

/do not GIS "this asshole gets it"
//porn, porn, gay porn, romney, porn, tucker max, porn, gay porn, porn...
2012-07-13 05:06:09 AM  
1 vote:
Sooooo much fail. And im sorta drunk, so im going to go through everything thats wrong with the article.

5... ok, cant really argue with that, Ledgers Joker was the performance of a lifetime, literally. His joker will be mold for the character for anyone who plays him in the future as well as im sure comic book interpretations. It was really pitch perfect, any time he was not on screen you wanted him to be. He deserved the Oscar even if he hadnt died. I think Ledgers Joker surpasses even Hamills.

4. Catwoman is a complex character, shes been done a dozen different ways in the comics, the only person to really compare Hathaway to would be Kidman, which was STILL a rather cheesy performance and comparable to Newmar and Kitt in some ways. The Nolan films are too different from the TV show obviously, and i dont even want to discuss the Catwoman movie. Completely different mythos, and although a similar origin to the Burton version, completely different character. Also one of the worst movies ive ever seen, if not THE worst, i dont know how this movie ever got made. That aside... Hathaway is NOT just a romcom bimbo (although neither was Berry), the authors examples are weak, and while i havnt seen Princess Diaries or Bride Wars, i think Passengers, Rachel Getting Married and especially Brokeback Mountain shows shes more than that . Now the comic book version has gone through several phases, but for the most part shes an extraordinary woman who burgles her way into wealth and high society. But you really cant compare this to earlier portrayals because they were all pretty cheesy. Shes also not a polar opposite to Batman... theyre very much similar people, farked up pasts, turn to a wacky animal inspired persona, but for different ends. Plus most versions of her put her as sort of a robin hood archetype, shes a thief, but definitely a "good guy". Very much the same as Bruce Wayne except he came from money and she didnt.

3. Yeah, this is pretty wild speculation. Nolan hasnt made a bad film yet, so hes due? WTF. Following is his "worst" movie? Ok yeah, its still a great movie. Thats like saying uh... shoulder is the worst part of the pig. While technically correct, BBQ is still farking awesome. Yes it will be hard to top The Dark Knight. Can TDKR do it? I dont know, but even if it doesnt, its going to be a 99 next to 100.

2. This ship sailed a loooooong time ago. Comic fans grew up, comics got darker, and yes, in some cases overly, ridiculously so. Batman was dark in the comics decades before Batman Begins, partly as a backlash to Wests Batman, but in general the modern age of comics is a backlash against the sincere cheesiness of the silver and golden ages, which were partly what they were because of censorship/the comic code. At the root of it Batman is a deeply tortured character still hung up on the deaths of his parents, enough so that he uses his vast fortune not on therapy, or hookers and blow, but to put on a cape and beat up bad guys. Is there any way for that NOT to be dark? Batman often admits theres little difference between him and his antagonists. Hes basically a bad guy but for the right reasons. He doesnt have super powers, he doesnt have some extrinsic influence giving him some higher purpose. With great power comes great responsibility, but Batman doesnt have any power.

1. I dont think the author has actually seen Bronson. I didnt think Hardy could pull off Bane either. Until i saw Bronson. And again, why even mention the Schumaker (historys greatest monster) Bane. Much like Berrys Catwoman, he wasnt Bane, he was just some guy called Bane with a few similarities. Now granted originally in the comic books Bane was little more than a cheap plot device for an ill contrived attempt at completely changing the Batman franchise. It was the 90s, Marvel was kicking DCs butts partly because Marvel heroes werent afraid to kill, darker heroes were all the rage. Meanwhile Superman was a boyscout and Batman with his code wasnt far off. DCs answer to this was Azbat (yo dawg, we heard you like wolverine, so we put wolverine in your batman, right down to the yellow and blue and claws...) but first they had to get someone besides Bruce in the Batsuit. So Bane came and was Batmans superior in every way, physically as well as intellectually and put him in a wheelchair for a while until fan backlash convinced DC theyd gone too far. Bane was developed as a character however and grew beyond his original role as a cheap plot device. Bane is one of the few characters i dont think they did justice to in TAS, but i dont think he had really been explored in the comics at that point anyway. I really dont see how Bane cant fit into the Nolanverse. People talk about the realism of it all, but forget that in the first film theres an ancient ninja training school... That being the case is it implausible for an orphan raised in a remote prison to rise through the ranks and become the badassest mercenary on the planet? And no, Danny Devito is not still the Penguin and Jim Carry is not still the Riddler, he was and always will be Ace Ventura. I dont think Bane will necessarily be a career defining role for Hardy, yes its a big deal, but i think he has much more and possibly even greater work ahead of him.

TL;DR, wheres my whiskey.
2012-07-13 04:41:44 AM  
1 vote:
In six months when all these summer movies come out on DVD I will look forward to having an opinion.
2012-07-13 04:15:26 AM  
1 vote:
Jim Carrey was NOT the defining Riddler or some crap like that article claims... it was amusing maybe, but that movie was still pretty lame, especially after Batman Returns
2012-07-13 04:08:08 AM  
1 vote:

Alphax: Well, yeah, the Avengers already came out..

Anyway, the article itself isn't bad, and lists some legitimate concerns about how it might go.

Shut up, Joss. Your movie was good, but nobody, anywhere, at any time, on any plane of existence thinks your movie was the best ever.
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