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(Shadowlocked)   Let's face it: There's still a possibility that The Dark Knight Rises might not be The Best Film Ever   (shadowlocked.com) divider line 162
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2012-07-13 01:26:19 AM
There's a really GOOD chance.
 
2012-07-13 01:31:55 AM
Link
The Onion called it.
 
2012-07-13 02:13:19 AM
Catwoman and any possible Batgirl sightings are by far the biggest problems waiting in the wings on this flick.

I've got my imax passes and I'm ready to go.
 
2012-07-13 03:58:35 AM
What, and supplant Weekend at Bernie's? I think not.
 
2012-07-13 04:02:52 AM
Well, yeah, the Avengers already came out..

Anyway, the article itself isn't bad, and lists some legitimate concerns about how it might go.
 
2012-07-13 04:06:55 AM
Of course not...It's got some livin' up to do if it wants to reach Hudson Hawk levels of wit and awesome.
 
2012-07-13 04:08:08 AM

Alphax: Well, yeah, the Avengers already came out..

Anyway, the article itself isn't bad, and lists some legitimate concerns about how it might go.


Shut up, Joss. Your movie was good, but nobody, anywhere, at any time, on any plane of existence thinks your movie was the best ever.
 
2012-07-13 04:10:06 AM
I LOVED the Avengers, but I really think this movie will take home the prize.

It's the capstone to a much loved trilogy that features amazing talent both in front of and behind the cameras. There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.
 
2012-07-13 04:15:26 AM
Jim Carrey was NOT the defining Riddler or some crap like that article claims... it was amusing maybe, but that movie was still pretty lame, especially after Batman Returns
 
2012-07-13 04:20:56 AM

Imperious Rex!: There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.


Besides, no one has filled out the Catsuit as well as Anne Hathaway since Julie Newmar and Lee Meriweather.
 
2012-07-13 04:25:53 AM

Moonvale: Jim Carrey was NOT the defining Riddler or some crap like that article claims... it was amusing maybe, but that movie was still pretty lame, especially after Batman Returns


'Was that over the top? I can never tell.'
 
2012-07-13 04:34:52 AM
I love Catwoman!I

aux-www.s3.amazonaws.com

But then again, I am a cat lover and I love to run.
 
2012-07-13 04:41:44 AM
In six months when all these summer movies come out on DVD I will look forward to having an opinion.
 
2012-07-13 04:57:16 AM
We live in such a fast-paced society that movie backlash is happening before it's even released! What a country.
 
2012-07-13 05:06:09 AM
Sooooo much fail. And im sorta drunk, so im going to go through everything thats wrong with the article.

5... ok, cant really argue with that, Ledgers Joker was the performance of a lifetime, literally. His joker will be mold for the character for anyone who plays him in the future as well as im sure comic book interpretations. It was really pitch perfect, any time he was not on screen you wanted him to be. He deserved the Oscar even if he hadnt died. I think Ledgers Joker surpasses even Hamills.

4. Catwoman is a complex character, shes been done a dozen different ways in the comics, the only person to really compare Hathaway to would be Kidman, which was STILL a rather cheesy performance and comparable to Newmar and Kitt in some ways. The Nolan films are too different from the TV show obviously, and i dont even want to discuss the Catwoman movie. Completely different mythos, and although a similar origin to the Burton version, completely different character. Also one of the worst movies ive ever seen, if not THE worst, i dont know how this movie ever got made. That aside... Hathaway is NOT just a romcom bimbo (although neither was Berry), the authors examples are weak, and while i havnt seen Princess Diaries or Bride Wars, i think Passengers, Rachel Getting Married and especially Brokeback Mountain shows shes more than that . Now the comic book version has gone through several phases, but for the most part shes an extraordinary woman who burgles her way into wealth and high society. But you really cant compare this to earlier portrayals because they were all pretty cheesy. Shes also not a polar opposite to Batman... theyre very much similar people, farked up pasts, turn to a wacky animal inspired persona, but for different ends. Plus most versions of her put her as sort of a robin hood archetype, shes a thief, but definitely a "good guy". Very much the same as Bruce Wayne except he came from money and she didnt.

3. Yeah, this is pretty wild speculation. Nolan hasnt made a bad film yet, so hes due? WTF. Following is his "worst" movie? Ok yeah, its still a great movie. Thats like saying uh... shoulder is the worst part of the pig. While technically correct, BBQ is still farking awesome. Yes it will be hard to top The Dark Knight. Can TDKR do it? I dont know, but even if it doesnt, its going to be a 99 next to 100.

2. This ship sailed a loooooong time ago. Comic fans grew up, comics got darker, and yes, in some cases overly, ridiculously so. Batman was dark in the comics decades before Batman Begins, partly as a backlash to Wests Batman, but in general the modern age of comics is a backlash against the sincere cheesiness of the silver and golden ages, which were partly what they were because of censorship/the comic code. At the root of it Batman is a deeply tortured character still hung up on the deaths of his parents, enough so that he uses his vast fortune not on therapy, or hookers and blow, but to put on a cape and beat up bad guys. Is there any way for that NOT to be dark? Batman often admits theres little difference between him and his antagonists. Hes basically a bad guy but for the right reasons. He doesnt have super powers, he doesnt have some extrinsic influence giving him some higher purpose. With great power comes great responsibility, but Batman doesnt have any power.

1. I dont think the author has actually seen Bronson. I didnt think Hardy could pull off Bane either. Until i saw Bronson. And again, why even mention the Schumaker (historys greatest monster) Bane. Much like Berrys Catwoman, he wasnt Bane, he was just some guy called Bane with a few similarities. Now granted originally in the comic books Bane was little more than a cheap plot device for an ill contrived attempt at completely changing the Batman franchise. It was the 90s, Marvel was kicking DCs butts partly because Marvel heroes werent afraid to kill, darker heroes were all the rage. Meanwhile Superman was a boyscout and Batman with his code wasnt far off. DCs answer to this was Azbat (yo dawg, we heard you like wolverine, so we put wolverine in your batman, right down to the yellow and blue and claws...) but first they had to get someone besides Bruce in the Batsuit. So Bane came and was Batmans superior in every way, physically as well as intellectually and put him in a wheelchair for a while until fan backlash convinced DC theyd gone too far. Bane was developed as a character however and grew beyond his original role as a cheap plot device. Bane is one of the few characters i dont think they did justice to in TAS, but i dont think he had really been explored in the comics at that point anyway. I really dont see how Bane cant fit into the Nolanverse. People talk about the realism of it all, but forget that in the first film theres an ancient ninja training school... That being the case is it implausible for an orphan raised in a remote prison to rise through the ranks and become the badassest mercenary on the planet? And no, Danny Devito is not still the Penguin and Jim Carry is not still the Riddler, he was and always will be Ace Ventura. I dont think Bane will necessarily be a career defining role for Hardy, yes its a big deal, but i think he has much more and possibly even greater work ahead of him.

TL;DR, wheres my whiskey.
 
2012-07-13 05:20:25 AM
poop
 
2012-07-13 05:36:01 AM
Has this person seen the movie?

No?

Okay then. Next thread.
 
2012-07-13 05:42:06 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Has this person seen the movie?

No?

Okay then. Next thread.


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2012-07-13 05:54:51 AM
Y'know internet, there was a lot more to The Dark Knight then Heath Ledger's second coming of the Clown Christ, his performance has become so overrated, he was good but not, "The greatest actor ever playing a role in the entire history of theater" good.
/Everyone looks at him like a genius because he's dead, see examples: Cobain, Kurt and Hendrix, Jimi
 
2012-07-13 05:56:23 AM
Best film EVer? Not without the universe scrubbing off the exalted presence of Ernest Scared Stupid from the fabric of spacetime.
 
2012-07-13 06:04:11 AM

olddeegee: Link
The Onion called it.


" and Batman's cameo appearances on Scooby-Doo. These were my creative touchstones as I completed my trilogy.""

awesome!
 
2012-07-13 06:06:46 AM

Kurmudgeon: Imperious Rex!: There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.

Besides, no one has filled out the Catsuit as well as Anne Hathaway since Julie Newmar and Lee Meriweather.


Michelle Pfeiffer?

I see Anne Hathaway in the commercials and I keep thinking "why couldn't they get Michelle Pfeiffer back for this?"

Alphax: Well, yeah, the Avengers already came out..


An ensemble cast =/= complexity and actual plot.
 
2012-07-13 06:11:34 AM
Bane - Popular newer villain to the Batman universe. (Not one of the old classic Batman villains...)

You know what other recent 3rd movie in a superhero series used the popular newer villain (Not one of that heroes old classic villains)?
 
2012-07-13 06:21:20 AM

Six_By_Nine: Kurmudgeon: Imperious Rex!: There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.
An ensemble cast =/= complexity and actual plot.


Yeah... Joss Whedon totally has no idea how to do complexity or plot =/
 
2012-07-13 06:30:19 AM

Six_By_Nine: I see Anne Hathaway in the commercials and I keep thinking "why couldn't they get Michelle Pfeiffer back for this?"


Still a babe, but time has marched on.
www.gorgeouspfeiffer.com
 
2012-07-13 06:31:47 AM
Here's a crazy idea.

Let's just watch the damn movie and then decide if it's good or bad.

/insane, i know.
 
2012-07-13 07:04:22 AM

Imperious Rex!: It's the capstone to a much loved trilogy that features amazing talent both in front of and behind the cameras. There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.


And don't forget Catwoman's behind:

www.writetrack.com

www.writetrack.com

www.viciousnews.com
 
2012-07-13 07:09:29 AM
So....his arguments boil down to "a whole bunch of other movies weren't very good, except for the other Batman movie, which was TOO good, and the director's other movies, which were all really good, so this one will be bad."

Someone got assigned by his boss to write something negative about the movie to rack up some page views, and this was the best he could come up with.
 
2012-07-13 07:09:54 AM
I didn't realize Heath Ledger's death was a suicide. It thought it was ruled an accidental overdose. Or was that part of the article complete bullshiat?
 
2012-07-13 07:17:21 AM

Kurmudgeon: Six_By_Nine: I see Anne Hathaway in the commercials and I keep thinking "why couldn't they get Michelle Pfeiffer back for this?"

Still a babe, but time has marched on.
[www.gorgeouspfeiffer.com image 290x290]


Any Pfeiffer fans -- I recommend you see "Stardust." It's a pretty good film that nobody saw in the theater. It's actually a good "date night" movie in the same sort of tone as "Princess Bride," (though not nearly as good). And Michelle Pfeiffer is AWESOME as a scenery-chewing evil witch.
 
2012-07-13 07:18:50 AM
Nolan is dull. His films lack any fun. They hit a high point with Prestige and Batman Begins (which is a dumb title).

TDK is ok. It's 2 times as long as it needs to be and is loaded with shiatty stuff (hong kong, bat vision, Michael Cain speeches, bat-blackmail, stupid annoying spouting catchphrases in the police can during jokers assault, the last scene with twoface where the climax of the movie is batman pushing an asshole out a window while music goes DUH DUH DUH Duh duh duh...)

TDKR has potential but it'll probably just be an overwrought melodramatic mess like inception. Full of dull characters and plot holes.
 
2012-07-13 07:22:11 AM
Steven Spielberg had Always (Google it...it's horrific);

WTF? Always is a good movie.
 
2012-07-13 07:22:20 AM
Anybody know when the reviews will start coming out? It was screened for critics almost a week ago.
 
2012-07-13 07:24:19 AM

DjangoStonereaver: Imperious Rex!: It's the capstone to a much loved trilogy that features amazing talent both in front of and behind the cameras. There's no way it can fail, even with Catwoman.

And don't forget Catwoman's behind:



Oh, I am very much looking forward to seeing Hathaway in her Catwoman outfit, I am just not expecting greatness. I really hope and think I will be surprised.
 
2012-07-13 07:35:44 AM

consider this: Anybody know when the reviews will start coming out? It was screened for critics almost a week ago.


A few will start trickling in Monday and Wednesday should be when RT has its most likely score.

Look, I've been bouncing off the walls for this since 5 minutes after walking out of TDK but I'll wait till I'm walking out before I make a jugdement. In all likelyhood, it will be a very satisfying conclusion to a great trilogy but not the greatest movie ever.

/ hope I'm wrong though
// really looking forward to watching Gotham descend into absolute chaos like the previews suggest
 
2012-07-13 07:46:44 AM
Am I the only one that thought Begins was boring and the joker was the only good thing about the second movie? I might watch it, when it's on TV in a couple of years
 
2012-07-13 07:47:49 AM
The Empire Strikes Back was a far superior movie to Return of the Jedi, but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy Return of the Jedi.

That is my analogy.
 
2012-07-13 07:54:51 AM
cdn.ifanboy.com

Whoooooooo knows?
 
2012-07-13 08:01:37 AM

stoli n coke: Alphax: Well, yeah, the Avengers already came out..

Anyway, the article itself isn't bad, and lists some legitimate concerns about how it might go.

Shut up, Joss. Your movie was good, but nobody, anywhere, at any time, on any plane of existence thinks your movie was the best ever.


I felt like i was covered in Whedon when i got out of that movie. It was good, don't get me wrong, but it could have been so much better if anyone else had directed it.
 
2012-07-13 08:09:02 AM
kaktusjack.com
 
2012-07-13 08:26:13 AM

Gunny Highway: [cdn.ifanboy.com image 640x360]

Whoooooooo knows?


What is going on in this photo??
 
2012-07-13 08:28:21 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-07-13 08:30:56 AM

MrCheeks: Gunny Highway: [cdn.ifanboy.com image 640x360]

Whoooooooo knows?

What is going on in this photo??


It was taken by Scott Snyder at yesterday's Batman panel. There is an evil group called The Court of the Owls in the story and they wear those masks. I guess they passed them out to the audience and Snyder snapped a picture. Thought it was cool and sort of relevant.
 
2012-07-13 08:31:07 AM

AaronSynn: Bane - Popular newer villain to the Batman universe. (Not one of the old classic Batman villains...)

You know what other recent 3rd movie in a superhero series used the popular newer villain (Not one of that heroes old classic villains)?


Yeah but that was Sony ramming Venom down Raimis throat purely for marketing reasons. Nolan picked Bane himself because he fit the mold for the film, not because the fanbois wanted to see him.
 
2012-07-13 08:33:25 AM

Cyno01: 4. Catwoman is a complex character, shes been done a dozen different ways in the comics, the only person to really compare Hathaway to would be Kidman


Uhh... Did you mean Michelle Pfeiffer? Kidman played Dr. Chase Meridian the psychiatrist.
 
2012-07-13 08:38:08 AM

Click Click D'oh: Steven Spielberg had Always (Google it...it's horrific);

WTF? Always is a good movie.


Yeah! Dreyfuss can do no wrong and Holly Hunter has a cute little mouth.

/no snark
 
2012-07-13 08:39:51 AM
 
2012-07-13 08:41:08 AM
You geeks and your coloring book movies... Get a life.
 
2012-07-13 08:42:10 AM

Angry Buddha: Click Click D'oh: Steven Spielberg had Always (Google it...it's horrific);

WTF? Always is a good movie.

Yeah! Dreyfuss can do no wrong and Holly Hunter has a cute little mouth.

/no snark


He meant this one...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-13 08:44:11 AM

Madbassist1: Angry Buddha: Click Click D'oh: Steven Spielberg had Always (Google it...it's horrific);

WTF? Always is a good movie.

Yeah! Dreyfuss can do no wrong and Holly Hunter has a cute little mouth.

/no snark

He meant this one...


You shut your whore mouth - that movie rules.

goodbye... hollywooooooood!
 
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