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2012-07-13 08:45:02 AM
Next year: Amazon announces two minute delivery from fridge!

Online retailer Amazon has announce a new feature of their Amazon Prime premium service. Customers will be able to order items contained in their personal refrigerator and a dedicated Amazon employee will deliver the requested item within two minutes. Product selection will be limited by availability .
 
2012-07-13 08:55:31 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: No Such Agency: alwaysjaded:
If you're troubleshooting a living room audio setup, it's pretty handy being able to shoot off to a store for the required part rather than waiting two days to find out if the part you ordered is really what you needed.

VERY true. The downside is, buying things locally so often seems like a screw job. That whatzit you could get off ebay for a few bucks is like $40 at the local (locally located chain, not even locally-owned mom-and-pop) store, IF it's even available.

I really want to like buying from the local hardware store rather than online or at Home Depot but there's a reason small stores have gone out of business. When they have the parts I want they cost 50% more than elsewhere and when they don't have them they can order them at an ever larger markup and a week wait. I can buy them online myself for less hassle.


It isn't just the price, it used to be that you went to your local store to get advice on the best products and how to use them. Now, all the good information, advice and how-to-doit videos are on the net and your typical Best Buy store is just all about low paid employees pushing an extended warranty on you. So I find that shopping and researching and ordering products is actually much easier on the web; if I go to the store I have to stand there like a dork with my phone googling the products on the small screen while fighting off the attack of the extended warranty know-nothings.
 
2012-07-13 08:57:21 AM

Grables'Daughter: My mom bought an HDMI cable from Walmart last year.

I hate Walmart, by the way.

Anyway, she paid $40 for a six-foot cable.

I found one on Amazon for her.

It was 71¢.

Yep. Plus $3 shipping, but still. 71¢.

/also, I'm a pretty big Amazon customer
//virgule virgule


MONOPRICE Best place for all your cable needs
 
2012-07-13 09:10:28 AM

ltdanman44: Grables'Daughter: My mom bought an HDMI cable from Walmart last year.

I hate Walmart, by the way.

Anyway, she paid $40 for a six-foot cable.

I found one on Amazon for her.

It was 71¢.

Yep. Plus $3 shipping, but still. 71¢.

/also, I'm a pretty big Amazon customer
//virgule virgule

MONOPRICE Best place for all your cable needs


Monoprice has great prices on their products, but they charge too much for shipping and their DC is on the west coats, so east coast deliveries take too long compared to Amazon.
 
2012-07-13 09:12:33 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Because I don't want to buy pancake syrup by the case lot?


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2012-07-13 09:27:56 AM

jaylectricity: Triumph: Shopping is a hassle.

Having items in my hand before I buy them is not obsolete. So many times I'd like to see what it is that I'm buying before I commit to something based on pictures.


Holding things in your hand before you buy might not be obsolete, but asking the opinion of a teenager in a store uniform is probably less useful than seeing a couple of dozen reviews a few seconds before you buy.

/My new video card should arrive on Monday.
//I live in Oregon, so the sales tax thing doesn't matter at all.
 
2012-07-13 10:04:28 AM

BigBooper: /"640k ought to be enough for anybody"
//ok old Farkers, 1 geek points for the first one who tells us who said that. (I know, it's a slow pitch)


Should have just said "obscure?"

Because it never is.

(It was Al Gore; it was included in his "Invention of the Internet" speech.)
 
2012-07-13 10:27:38 AM

try fect taa daa: there's a source for everything and a smart shopper knows... monoprice, newegg, amazon, ebay for things where warranty isn't an issue...

went to best buy with the intention of spending a gift card i have. bastards were out of any speaker that would fit my truck. their demo board didn't represent what was actually available. nothing was priced... clusterfark. salesgirl was smokin hot though... i'll go to another BB in a few days and add as little cash as possible to whatever i buy on the giftcard. then--good riddance BB.


Sometimes you can buy an amazon gift card with a Best Buy giftcard in their giftcards section.
 
2012-07-13 10:32:35 AM
1) I started up a company that specializes in installs for the elderly. We charge 1/2 the Best Lie cost as well as put down the direct cost in the bills of our cables. Just the actual cost of the cables usually pays for the install.

2) I ordered a huge UPS for the house thursday morning from Amazon. Free delivery was estimated for monday. i got notification that it is being delivered today.
Half of the local price, and fast delivery.

Between amazon, monoprice and newegg I rarely shop local for anything but food anymore.
 
2012-07-13 10:35:56 AM

exvaxman: 1) I started up a company that specializes in installs for the elderly. We charge 1/2 the Best Lie cost as well as put down the direct cost in the bills of our cables. Just the actual cost of the cables usually pays for the install.

2) I ordered a huge UPS for the house thursday morning from Amazon. Free delivery was estimated for monday. i got notification that it is being delivered today.
Half of the local price, and fast delivery.

Between amazon, monoprice and newegg I rarely shop local for anything but food anymore.


I order quite a bit of food on the net too, some specialty things are much cheaper on line and I usually don't care how long it takes. Plus there is no sales tax on non-pre-prepared food in my state. For food though, Amazon does not usually have the best price.
 
2012-07-13 10:36:48 AM

BigBooper: Jizz Master Zero: Fark those dipshiats that insist that their low bitrate, overly compressed Demonoid download or Netflix stream is just as good as Blu-ray. No, it's not and it never will be.

Ummmmmmmmm. I'm going to guess that technology will continue to improve.

Eventually, physical media will be a thing of the past. Sure it will be awhile before you can stream 4k movies without any loss of resolution, but that day will come.

/"640k ought to be enough for anybody"
//ok old Farkers, 1 geek points for the first one who tells us who said that. (I know, it's a slow pitch)


not even slo-pitch, that's t-ball
 
2012-07-13 10:39:56 AM
People find driving to a store for toilet paper a huge ordeal now?

I don't particularly like driving, either, but going half a mile to Walmart or Target for a list of items is still less trouble than ordering from Amazon. Plus, I get it same day. It's amazing. The store has items sitting out on the shelves, grouped by type. Various brands and the price is right there on the shelf. Best of all, no shipping charge.
 
2012-07-13 10:40:09 AM
My digital cables sprung a leak and started leaving bytes all over the place
 
2012-07-13 10:45:31 AM
Amazon has been offering same day delivery in NYC on things like books and music for a while now. Really, having same day delivery of more things just brings Amazon into alignment with the rest of NYC--I don't think it's going to give Amazon as much of an advantage here as it might in other places--if any at all.

In fact, I'd say there's some potential for good because opening local warehouses means providing local jobs, right?
 
2012-07-13 10:45:34 AM

Jizz Master Zero: Pretty much the only non-grocery thing I can picture myself buying in a store instead of online is a TV.


When I was shopping for a TV last fall, I went to Best Buy and found one I liked. After I got home, I checked Amazon and found the same brand but 2 model numbers higher at a cheaper price. This was also a weekend they were having a sale, so after researching the feedback on their TV sales, I bought one. It came out close to $1200 cheaper than what Best Buy was selling the same model I bought (only available on bestbuy.com at the time) with tax. I also picked up a Square Trade warranty with it as well. The only downside to it was I had to wait a week for the TV to be delivered. It actually worked out pretty well since I ordered the TV mount and some extra cables from monoprice and their delivery is a few days here in the midwest.
 
2012-07-13 10:53:37 AM

Tax Boy: [media.tumblr.com image 494x700]

If this is how amazon's going to do deliveries, I'm ok with it


Came here for this...leaving satisfied.
 
2012-07-13 11:09:33 AM

Grables'Daughter: My mom bought an HDMI cable from Walmart last year.

I hate Walmart, by the way.

Anyway, she paid $40 for a six-foot cable.

I found one on Amazon for her.

It was 71¢.

Yep. Plus $3 shipping, but still. 71¢.

/also, I'm a pretty big Amazon customer
//virgule virgule


Not a big fan of Walmart myself, but why in the world would any one buy an HDMI cable for that price? Probably could have gotten it from any number of online retailers, even with next day shipping, for cheaper than 40 bucks.

Brick and Mortar stores are the suxxorz nowadays. Service is terrible, the products they offer are terrible, and many of the people who shop at them are terrible. I hate going shopping for anything anymore as it's such a chore, but is necessary for some things so I put up with it when I have to.

Like many I do like to see what I am buying before I purchase, but for most things it's pretty easy to tell what you are getting. I guess being a fairly smart person gives me something of a benefit in that regard as I tend to look at all the specs so I have a fairly good idea of what exactly the product might be.

And for many things, mostly products that I am already familiar with, fit's not really necessary to see it before purchasing. If I had never seen a laptop then maybe yes I would want to hold one and look at one, but having seen and worked with quite a few all I really need is a picture, the specs, and dimensions and for the most part I know exactly what I am getting.

/
//
 
2012-07-13 11:10:01 AM
I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.
 
2012-07-13 11:17:41 AM
Good job, politicians. You just removed the one thing that was stopping Amazon from putting itself right in the heart of your commercial districts. They have no reason no to drain every last dollar from your local stores.

You would sooner take a nickel today than a dollar tomorrow. Nice work as always.
 
2012-07-13 11:18:24 AM
Meh their stuff is junk.
 
2012-07-13 11:21:12 AM
I love AMAZON as much as the next Farker, but I'd be happy if their Prime Instant video service actually delivered instead of stuttering then gagging then just stalling out ...

... on every selection tried. Not once has anything played more than ten minutes.
 
2012-07-13 11:25:59 AM
Mr. Chainsaw:
I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.

Couriers are absolutely the WORST way to send anything to a human. By the time you get home from work, their office is closed and can't even answer the phone to reroute the delivery to your work*... so the god damn truck drives to your house again the next day and leaves you another notice (this system may have improved in the last few years). If I have to drive to the warehouse, which I can't since I don't have a car, my package might as well be on the farking moon.

* and if I order it to my work the mail room will take a couple of extra days to get it to me... the result is again slower than the post office. Assuming I'm allowed to receive personal mail at work at all.
 
2012-07-13 11:30:46 AM
I found a package on top of the UPS drop-box after spring semester was over. It was to be sent to the Amazon returns department. It turns out someone simply placed the shipping label on the box without realizing that it required postage. Well, since everyone had gone home for the summer, and it was never going to get where it was supposed to be, I decided to open it. It was a set of mirrored Speedo goggles and a lint brush. Instead of same-day delivery they could have traveled to the shopping center using the city buses which are free of charge to anyone with a university ID. Is same-day delivery really that important?
 
2012-07-13 11:39:09 AM

Jizz Master Zero: Pretty much the only non-grocery thing I can picture myself buying in a store instead of online is a TV. I've gone almost completely online over the last few years, either delivery or in-store pickup (mostly the latter). I'm a movie fanatic. It's my job, my love, my passion. I love to see them in the best quality available to me. Fark those dipshiats that insist that their low bitrate, overly compressed Demonoid download or Netflix stream is just as good as Blu-ray. No, it's not and it never will be. Anyway, I buy tons of them. I have available to me in driving/BART distance: 7 Targets, 5 Walmarts, 4 Rasputins, 3 Frys, 3 Best Buys and an Amoeba. How often do they have what I'm looking for? Damn near never. Seriously, out of the last 100 DVDs and Blu-rays I've bought, maybe ten were local. Admittedly, some of those were available, but way cheaper online.

I recently decided to upgrade my first two Predator movies to Blu-ray. I walked in nearly everywhere, unavailable. The only place that had them was Best Buy and Frys. Both had the "Ultimate Hunter Edition" of Predator for $25 and $30 respectively. Amazon? $7. I decided to start upgrading my non-Blu Terminators since I'd budgeted $25 anyway. I figured I'd start with the first and get 2 and 3 later. Didn't need to. I picked up the newest Blu-ray of Predator, Terminator, T2 and T3 for just over $30. In store it would have totaled nearly $70. Plus, I qualified for free shipping and, since the South San Francisco warehouse had them all, I got them the next day.

Fark Brick 'n' Mortars. Even in the rare times that they actually have what I'm looking for, it's almost always far more than buying online, even if I have to pay for taxes and shipping.


Based on these clues I have been trying to guess what city you are in. My guess is Fremont.
 
2012-07-13 11:45:30 AM
This will force independent retailers to either innovate new products, carry limited-edition small batch products, or value-add to a point beyond Amazon's ability. You'll see a lot of boutique stores with one-offs from local artists, small-batch local foodstuffs that can't meet Amazon's minimum stocking requirements, and stores that cater to local ethnic tastes.
 
2012-07-13 11:49:36 AM

GreenSun: The only reason humans work is because there are things that can't yet be automated. Eventually, only system programmers, the brains of the companies, and the bosses would have jobs. Most manual jobs will be gone.

Are we supposed to halt the advancement of technology?

What if one day we discover something to change the way humans work so that we don't get sick anymore and our wounds would heal instantly? Should we stop this kind of discovery for fears of having lots of people in the medical field lose their jobs?


We're doing that all the time with improvements in medicine. Take kidney stones - it used to be a big operation, now it's done with a local anaesthetic and ultrasound, which means less people involved.
 
2012-07-13 11:49:49 AM

namatad: jaylectricity: So will wholesale prices go retail or vice versa?

You real question is how will this effect the poor little wholesaler?!! How will he survive if he cant jack up the prices to the retailer?!


How did you get that from what he said?
 
2012-07-13 11:53:30 AM

No Such Agency: Mr. Chainsaw:
I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.

Couriers are absolutely the WORST way to send anything to a human. By the time you get home from work, their office is closed and can't even answer the phone to reroute the delivery to your work*... so the god damn truck drives to your house again the next day and leaves you another notice (this system may have improved in the last few years). If I have to drive to the warehouse, which I can't since I don't have a car, my package might as well be on the farking moon.

* and if I order it to my work the mail room will take a couple of extra days to get it to me... the result is again slower than the post office. Assuming I'm allowed to receive personal mail at work at all.


The last time I hired a courier, it was a nightmare. It was a valuable package that needed personal attention, traveling 40 miles from Primm to Vegas. He ended up getting shot in the head and the package was stolen.
 
2012-07-13 11:53:37 AM

Eps05: I am left wondering how all of this can even be profitable - not just to Amazon, but to the manufacturers and primary distributors, even though I know alot of electronic goods are overpriced (digital camera battery? 50 dollars at store. 20 dollars brandname online, 3pack for 12 dollars random Hong Kong dude)


Amazon pays manufacturers substantially more than brick-and-mortar stores because in lots of cases, the manufacturers are shipping directly from their factory to your door. They also have incredible shipping deals because of how much they ship.
 
2012-07-13 11:54:37 AM

Mr. Chainsaw: I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.


They don't just leave it at your door? Everything I've bought from Amazon that was shipped via UPS has just been left at the front door. This was at apartments and houses.
 
2012-07-13 11:58:26 AM
There was a time Amazon used to be cheaper, but I don't find that to be the case anymore. Fry's and other stores are usually the same price and will price match anyways. I buy from Amazon to save on sales tax and for their variety. I seriously doubt the local warehouses will have the entire Amazon inventory, it will likely only be their top selling items. If I'm going to pay sales tax, I'd rather go to the store myself...but, that's just me
 
2012-07-13 11:59:26 AM

TheGreenMonkey: Not a big fan of Walmart myself, but why in the world would any one buy an HDMI cable for that price? Probably could have gotten it from any number of online retailers, even with next day shipping, for cheaper than 40 bucks.


Because it's my mom.

She's not as familiar with Amazon as I am.
 
2012-07-13 12:00:54 PM

No Such Agency: Mr. Chainsaw:
I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.

Couriers are absolutely the WORST way to send anything to a human. By the time you get home from work, their office is closed and can't even answer the phone to reroute the delivery to your work*... so the god damn truck drives to your house again the next day and leaves you another notice (this system may have improved in the last few years). If I have to drive to the warehouse, which I can't since I don't have a car, my package might as well be on the farking moon.

* and if I order it to my work the mail room will take a couple of extra days to get it to me... the result is again slower than the post office. Assuming I'm allowed to receive personal mail at work at all.


I love amazon.. I happily pay for Amazon Prime. Everything I buy non-perishible pretty much comes from Amazon. Razors, batterys, soap, lotion, screws, tools, appliances, toys, etc etc etc. I probably have a delivery a day from UPS or USPS. I've never had to make a trip to the warehouse as they just drop the stuff off on the front door. Out of the thousands of orders I've placed on Amazon only one thing was mis-delivered to a neighbor. When I ordered my new Maytag fridge they set up a delivery time and I was home for that but that would be the case had I walked into Home Depot and got it there.

So as far as i'm concerned retail stores are already dead to me. Pet stores can be convenient but I can even order Fish online and have a couple times.
 
2012-07-13 12:22:45 PM

Grables'Daughter: TheGreenMonkey: Not a big fan of Walmart myself, but why in the world would any one buy an HDMI cable for that price? Probably could have gotten it from any number of online retailers, even with next day shipping, for cheaper than 40 bucks.

Because it's my mom.

She's not as familiar with Amazon as I am.


I'm a little familiar with it. I wish I could make a list of reasons why it's so convenient. It really shouldn't be that hard. This 55 year old gal asked me why online shopping is so great. I figured I could drum up some business for them.
 
2012-07-13 12:24:16 PM

Grables'Daughter: TheGreenMonkey: Not a big fan of Walmart myself, but why in the world would any one buy an HDMI cable for that price? Probably could have gotten it from any number of online retailers, even with next day shipping, for cheaper than 40 bucks.

Because it's my mom.

She's not as familiar with Amazon as I am.



If all the brick-and-mortar stores (Best Buy, Wamart, Target, Staples) together all charge ~$40 for the same cable, there is no reason to think it might be had for elsewhere cheaper, since it's the exactly same price everywere she's looked so far; therefore, it must be "the price". It's as if I'd discovered I could get a loaf of bread at bread.com for five cents. No one before has tried to sell a loaf of bread to me for five cents, so I would have had to reason to try to do that before.
 
2012-07-13 12:46:43 PM

PirateFuzzball: Mr. Chainsaw: I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.

They don't just leave it at your door? Everything I've bought from Amazon that was shipped via UPS has just been left at the front door. This was at apartments and houses.


I was going to say the same thing. I come home and it's just at the front door. And I live in the suburbs.
 
2012-07-13 12:57:57 PM

Mad_Radhu: Local retail can bite my ass. It's getting to the point where a trip to the store is frustrating because simple things just aren't in the store any more.

For example, my wife uses Woolite for hand washing her delicates, and she's bought it for years with no incident. Suddenly, EVERY local retailer isn't carrying it any more. Not Target, not Fred Meyer, not the local grocery. All they have is the big bottles laundry detergent designed for HE machines, and there isn't even a tag on the shelf to indicate it is out of stock. After a fruitless trip around town trying to figure out who still sells it, we eventually just wound up buying a case of 4 bottles of it at Amazon.

If the retail stores aren't selling basic stuff like that any more, what is the point of them? I can understand something hard to find, but it shouldn't be an adventure to try to find damn Woolite.


It's been odd to see what's being phased out at stores. I used to buy all my underwear (and lots of it) at Target/Walmart, because I think that underwear should essentially be disposable. The size and style of what I wear by Fruit of the Loom, Hanes, etc has suddenly vanished from the stores, and if I have to order those on Amazon, I might as well buy socks and other things the stores still do stock. So the stores have now lost my business on multiple products.
 
2012-07-13 12:58:26 PM
Amazon Prime has definitely gotten me to buy more frequently from Amazon. Before, I didn't shop as much since I didn't want to pay so much for shipping or pack up the cart to meet their slow free shipping. For me, Prime has been worth the $79 ($6.58/mo) if I ever paid that since I never saw the charges for it in my statement..That two-day shipping about a third of the time ends up delivered the next day. I'm still a cheap bastard so I still compare prices with other online places and local brick and mortar. I wouldn't mind a sales tax with Amazon, but I would still be paying attention to the final price. There are some rare items that I have found to be significantly cheaper at a brick and mortar than Amazon and the savings were worth me to make a stop.

I live in the Greater Atlanta area and it seems like they have a distribution center here even though they don't charge me sales tax. Some of the items I order ship out near the airport, are delivered the next day, and even have their signature packing slip/receipt.

Amazon Payments has been pretty nifty as well. Found a hard to find product at a non-Amazon site and they had a button to pay with Amazon Payments right on the product page. Hit the link, logged in, and was automatically upgraded to 2-day shipping with no extra cost. The site had an estimated shipping price of $5 already. Product shipped out in Atlanta, delivered, next day, and no sales tax was charged. I was really surprised by the 2-day shipping since Amazon doesn't normally apply that unless it's fulfilled by them and they definitely didn't have this thing in stock.
 
2012-07-13 01:26:21 PM

geoduck42: Sadly, I suspect the people working in all those new warehouses will continue to be treated like crap.

Earlier this year, it purchased Kiva Systems, a company that makes cute, amazingly productive "picking robots" that improve shipping times while reducing errors.


Kinda hard to mistreat robots.
 
2012-07-13 01:39:32 PM

alwaysjaded: PirateFuzzball: Mr. Chainsaw: I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.

They don't just leave it at your door? Everything I've bought from Amazon that was shipped via UPS has just been left at the front door. This was at apartments and houses.

I was going to say the same thing. I come home and it's just at the front door. And I live in the suburbs.


That's why. This varies depending on the crime rate, and the delivery person. All the places except one where I've lived they just leave things at the door; one neighborhood they had a few thefts and stopped doing it. I do feel a little funny having a $1500 computer or something sitting on my doorstep all day, but I've never had anything taken. Of course, it is simple and free to have them deliver to your work if they don't leave it at your door or if you're worried - I've never had any trouble going this route, companies usually have a receptionist accepting deliveries anyway. Hell, in school I'd have things shipped to my department office instead of my apartment - just let the secretary or whoever know to expect something and they're usually fine with it.
 
2012-07-13 01:40:29 PM

Snakeophelia:
It's been odd to see what's being phased out at stores. I used to buy all my underwear (and lots of it) at Target/Walmart, because I think that underwear should essentially be disposable. The size and style of what I wear by Fruit of the Loom, Hanes, etc has suddenly vanished from the stores, and if I have to order those on Amazon, I might as well buy socks and other things the stores still do stock. So the stores have now lost my business on multiple products.


Funny that I hadn't noticed.. I haven't been in target in quite awhile and the only reason I would walk into a walmart is for live worms. However I just searched Amazon for live worms and what do ya know.. I can order them from Amazon. No more walmart ;)

Clothes would be the only thing I buy in a mall and I only go to one store (Von Maur!!). Clothes I already own and know how the sizes work I'll order from online though. Underwear and whatnot I've been buying online for years now. I'm with you on disposable.. In december I order next years unders. Throw away all my old crap and keep the new stuff for a year.. I hate when shiat doesn't match so all socks/unders must be the same brand and exact same style.
 
2012-07-13 01:41:57 PM
Amazon lets you return things. You just box it up and leave it on your door step and it goes back and you get a refund -- if you order that egg thing that is a pain to clean, just put it back in the box and send it back. Problem solved. As for retailers; I tend to not like people. Seems that we're going more and more anti social (or redefining social within an electronic context at least) and we work more hours than any other country. I love the idea of ordering things and having them awaiting me when I get home. Saves fuel, and maximizes the precious little free time I have to enjoying the fruits of my labor.
 
2012-07-13 01:43:59 PM

Clemkadidlefark: I love AMAZON as much as the next Farker, but I'd be happy if their Prime Instant video service actually delivered instead of stuttering then gagging then just stalling out ...

... on every selection tried. Not once has anything played more than ten minutes.


Never had that problem at any time of day, always get full HD too. YMMV, see [online] store for details, some limitations may apply.
 
2012-07-13 01:52:47 PM
Regarding the tax thing, I don't care. Amazon is easy, even with taxes added in it is way cheaper than local stores (with much better selection), and shipping is quick. Free 2-day shipping often arrives the next day. I'm apparently one of the few Californians that bothers to pay the use tax; really easy to just look at my orders for the tax year and add up the numbers. So Amazon charging tax won't affect me at all.

That said, I do sort of wish local stores were more competitive. I'd be happy paying a little more to shop locally, but it never works out that way. If the local store has what I want, it is invariably 50%+ more expensive than online. The vast majority of the time they don't have what I want, and I've just wasted gas and time getting there. They always offer to order items they don't have in stock, but for some reason that usually takes a week or more. I'd love to shop locally, but for many of the things I buy I've simply given up because shopping is such a frustrating experience.

If locals want to compete, they need to get smarter about how they do business. Start showing your inventory online, so that I can see if you have what I want without wasting the trip. Figure out a way to be able to quickly order products you don't have, same or next day - otherwise I'm going online to order it myself. Maybe they should be banding together to start some kind of local or regional warehouse system, so they don't have to bear the costs of a large inventory but can have immediate access when a customer wants something that isn't in the store. All that, and they've got to keep the markup to 15%-30% higher than Amazon, tops. If they can't do that, don't even bother.
 
2012-07-13 02:15:45 PM

thelordofcheese: Instead of same-day delivery they could have traveled to the shopping center using the city buses which are free of charge to anyone with a university ID. Is same-day delivery really that important?


It is to Amazon, if your other choice is the shopping center.
 
2012-07-13 02:33:31 PM

Mad_Radhu: Local retail can bite my ass. It's getting to the point where a trip to the store is frustrating because simple things just aren't in the store any more.

For example, my wife uses Woolite for hand washing her delicates, and she's bought it for years with no incident. Suddenly, EVERY local retailer isn't carrying it any more. Not Target, not Fred Meyer, not the local grocery. All they have is the big bottles laundry detergent designed for HE machines, and there isn't even a tag on the shelf to indicate it is out of stock. After a fruitless trip around town trying to figure out who still sells it, we eventually just wound up buying a case of 4 bottles of it at Amazon.

If the retail stores aren't selling basic stuff like that any more, what is the point of them? I can understand something hard to find, but it shouldn't be an adventure to try to find damn Woolite.


That, right there, all of that. That-that-thaty that. Most of the time I do my due dilligence trying to find an item locally. When I strike out--which is more and more often these days--then I go online. Without question, retailers are shrinking and consolidating their inventories. That's fine, but they shouldn't weep when people look elsewhere for what they want.
 
2012-07-13 02:49:19 PM

divx88: robmilmel: Benevolent Misanthrope: Because I don't want to buy pancake syrup by the case lot?

You...you sicken me.

/swigs from "Big Gulp" of Mrs. Butterworth's

You have those thin little bird lips don'tcha


So much of my authority is derived from the power right here (points to lips)
 
2012-07-13 02:50:40 PM

demonbug:

That's why. This varies depending on the crime rate, and the delivery person. All the places except one where I've lived they just leave things at the door; one neighborhood they had a few thefts and stopped doing it. I do feel a little funny having a $1500 computer or something sitting on my doorstep all day, but I've never had anything taken. Of course, it is simple and free to have them deliver to your work if they don't leave it at your door or if you're worried - I've never had any trouble going this route, companies usually have a receptionist accepting deliveries anyway. Hell, in school I'd have things shipped to my department office instead of my apartment - just let the secretary or whoever know to expect something and they're usually fine with it.


I'm not saying I am comfortable with it, they just seem to do it. In fact, I had to cut a day cause I'm going out of town and there was a package coming that I didn't know who the carrier was. I didn't want it to sit on the porch for 3 weeks but since they didn't tell me who the carrier was, I didn't know who to contact. I usually get movies, games and books from Amazon but if I ever ordered something like a T.V. or a computer I would request me going to the warehouse to pick it up. Thieves can move surprisingly quick and that's too much money to just have sitting outside for god knows how long.
 
2012-07-13 03:06:43 PM
I tried Amazon Prime and ended up cancelling. The shipper Amazon uses to deliver 1 and 2 day shipping is Ontrac, which at least in the San Jose area is seriously effed up.

KarmicDisaster: I've got Prime. It is great unless...

1) They go crazy and send your item using "smartpost". That is the worst shipping method ever devised by Man, using the worst of both FedEx and the USPS to make your package travel in a loop for days. Smartpost absolutely sucks and adds days and extra crazy handling and routing and chance for loss and damage to your package.
2) You order Thursday-Sunday, then your package is into the weekend anyway.


Tried Prime and cancelled it because the shipper they use to deliver to my office is Ontrac. Not sure how Ontrac is in other parts of the US, but in the San Jose, CA area they are absolutely rotten. Lost a 2nd day shipping package even though Ontrac claimed it was delivered. Called their office who said the driver would come back the next day to 'help me look for it'. I laughed and hung up knowing nobody would be coming the next day(I was correct). To Amazon's credit they next day shipped me a replacement via Fedex.

About 5 months later Ontrac finally delivered the original package to my office.
 
2012-07-13 03:10:46 PM

PirateFuzzball: Mr. Chainsaw: I would totally pay the money for Amazon Prime, but the two-day shipping is UPS and I'm almost never home when UPS makes it to my place for delivery, so I usually have to end up picking it up at the warehouse.

They don't just leave it at your door? Everything I've bought from Amazon that was shipped via UPS has just been left at the front door. This was at apartments and houses.


The last two places I've lived (both apartments, neither in a bad neighborhood) they wouldn't leave it at the door on the first delivery attempt; they'll only do it the second time after you check the box on the slip. So it still takes an extra day.
 
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